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Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: Ike 2K# on December 17, 2003, 01:32:00 PM: Did Me-262 had an extra loadout for 24 Air 2 Air rockets?
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: flakbait on December 17, 2003, 01:42:15 PM: Yep. Two dozen R4M rockets carried on two wooden racks just outboard of the engines. A dozen rockets per rack. Occasionally a ground attack aircraft (190-F8) would carry them for anti-tank work.

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Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: pugg666 on December 17, 2003, 03:17:45 PM: I loved those rockets in Aces over Europe.

http://www.4reference.net/encyclopedias/wikipedia/R4M_rocket.html
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: spitfire708 on December 17, 2003, 04:51:39 PM: some also replaced the center cannons with 24 R4M rockers
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: mars01 on December 17, 2003, 05:58:11 PM: Theyd be sweet!!!!
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: Pooh21 on December 17, 2003, 09:43:33 PM: a good salvo in EAW and thered be a cloud of buff parts falling.
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: lord dolf vader on December 17, 2003, 10:05:31 PM: wonder why we never got them hehe.
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: AmRaaM on December 21, 2003, 09:50:59 PM: There is a picture of a B24 immediatly after a 262 struck it with a r4m. at Castle Air Museum. one hit one kill, with a 20 odd # warhead.
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: Wilbus on December 24, 2003, 04:15:23 AM: Would be very sweet indeed, the 190 F8 need them most though.

The cannons in the 262 were never exchanged for the R4M's, not in combat anyway, pretty sure they were never even tried on instead of the cannons. There were some other planes that had the nose filled with them though but those were never taken into action either afaik.
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: AmRaaM on December 24, 2003, 07:28:20 AM: tell that to the historians at Castle, maybe they inscripted the pic incorrectly or you're incorrect.

I was just there 2 wks ago.
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on December 24, 2003, 08:15:31 AM: AmRaaM, they were mounted under the wings, not in nose instead of the cannons.

The one with rockets in its nose were the Ba 349 'Natter' (http://www.germanvtol.com/bachemfolder/bachem.html)
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: Ike 2K# on December 24, 2003, 01:25:24 PM: Wait, did 262s carry FRITZ-X missile?
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: spitfire708 on December 25, 2003, 03:26:11 PM: i dont know but Fritz is an awesome missile.
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: Rasker on December 27, 2003, 07:48:41 PM: Fritz-X was usually carried by the Do-217, did quite a bit of damage in the Med until Allies learned to extend the air cover farther out from the fleets.

Luftwaffe used those big rockets on closely packed buff formations from beyond rear gun range, I'm thinking usually off Bf-110's or similar large aircraft. Sometimes a hit on one buff would cause explosion that would take out others. The theory was that thinning out the formation would make things easier for the 109's and 190's.

Btw, has anyone ever actually gotten a buff kill with the Bf-110's AH rocket loadout?
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: Pooh21 on December 28, 2003, 11:48:27 AM: I killed a lanc but it was moot anyway rocket range from 6 is 1000 yds give or take, took his left wing off , my cannons tore his right off.

There is no historical out of "effective" gun range for AH buffs.
Title: Me-262 & a rocket
Post by: Wilbus on December 28, 2003, 12:44:43 PM: No 262's flew with rockets in its nose Amraam, they had them under the wings as Snefens said. The Natter (never deployed in combat) har them in the nose as their only weapon.