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Title: We need some information
Post by: Skuzzy on December 19, 2003, 11:29:51 AM: We need some information from the Beta group.

Here is the setup:
1) Rename or delete the AH2 "settings" folder.
2) Start AH2.
3) Pick whatever video resolution you want, but we would like to see 1024x768 included. Do not change any other settings from default.
4) Go Offline
5) Note the FPS and Triangle count, with the clipboard down and in the tower.
6) Note any video settings you have for your video card. Such as anti-alias, anistrophic filtering and what levels. Ideally, we would like to see the test with all that disabled as well.

Do not make any adjustments to the default video settings in the game from the clipboard.

Here is a helpful form:

CPU Type/Speed:
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: (you can get this from DXDIAG)
In-game video resolution:
Frame Rate:
Triangle Count:
Other video settings: AA? AF?

Thank you folks. Appreciate the help.
Title: Re: We need some information
Post by: Easyscor on December 19, 2003, 12:12:59 PM: CPU: Intel P3 800 over clocked at 824, 256 MB Ram
Video Card:
_ ASUS CUSL2-C MoBo Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
_ DirectX 9.0b
_ ASUS AGP-V7700 Pure/deluxe v31.40G, 32MB (Gforce 2 GTS)
_ Vid-Driver ver. 6.13.0010.3140
_ 1024 x 768 / 32bit / 75Hz
In-game Video settings: 1024 x 768, 32-bit color, Unlimited frame rates"
Frame Rate: 33-38
Triangle Count: 2931
Other video settings: Default (none available)

WindowsXP Pro
SB Live! at 25% acceleration. Microsoft driver
Title: We need some information
Post by: zmeg on December 19, 2003, 12:16:56 PM: (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_154_1071857266.jpg)

XP2400+, GA-7VA mobo (KT400), 512M DDR2100, AC97 5.1 sound, GF4 Ti4200 128M 8X agp, 45.23 driver, DX9, 1024x768x32x85, noAA noAF
Title: We need some information
Post by: ramzey on December 19, 2003, 12:22:42 PM: Test 1

1024x768 16 bit

Initialization failed with -3
main GR3D_Failed -1

Test 2
10204x768 32 bit

Tower with clipboard, in game all video settings on( default)
FPS - 22-23 (jumping)
Triangle Cnt 5039

Tower without clipboard, in game all video settings on( default)
FPS 26-27
Triangle Cnt 3649

Tower with clipboard, in game all video settings off
FPS - 25-27 (jumping)
Triangle Cnt 5989

Tower without clipboard,in game all video settings off
FPS 33
Triangle Cnt 4598

AA and AF off (aplication controlled)

report: 12/19/2003, 10:15:30

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclient.010817-1148)
PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1400MHz
Memory: 384MB RAM
Page File: 159MB used, 763MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 MX 440
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0171&SUBSYS_00001B13&REV_A3
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.5216 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/6/2003 14:16:00, 4246528 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 10/6/2003 14:16:00, 1550043 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4231-11CF-C36C-0A2002C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0171
SubSys ID: 0x00001B13
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFilteri ng
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFilteri ng
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
Title: We need some information
Post by: Skuzzy on December 19, 2003, 12:29:59 PM: Easycor, did you move or rename the AH2 settings folder? The triangle count you show does not look right.

Remember, we need to be able to do static comparisons, so make sure you are at all defaults (except the resolution) for everything.
Title: We need some information
Post by: Wilbus on December 19, 2003, 12:32:50 PM: Skuzzy, does AH2 use Open GL or Direct 3D? Need to know so I can set my vid card for it.
Title: Re: We need some information
Post by: Flossy on December 19, 2003, 12:34:47 PM: CPU Type/Speed: AMD Athlon (TM) XP 1700+, MMX, 3DNOW, ~1466MHz
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: NVIDIA GeForce DDR/1024x768 (32 bit)(60Hz)/32MB
In-game video resolution: 1024x768
Frame Rate: 48-50
Triangle Count: 2828-9
Other video settings: AA? AF? Not sure where to find this info? (Windows XP)
Title: We need some information
Post by: Skuzzy on December 19, 2003, 12:36:55 PM: DirectX Wilbus
Title: We need some information
Post by: quig on December 19, 2003, 12:37:32 PM: (http://www.carjargon.com/ah/test.bmp)

AA=off
AF=off

All other video card settings middle of the road between quality/performance.

Intel Pet 3 1.0 ghz
ATI 9200 SE 128MB PCI video card (latest drivers)
256MB RAM

Guess I could mention that this was ran at 1024x768, all in-game setting default.
Title: We need some information
Post by: Easyscor on December 19, 2003, 12:47:41 PM: Yes Skuzzy, it created a new settings folder with the following files:

video8
wl0.pwl
flight
freq
room

I checked, the in-game video setup, it was reset to the defaults.
Remember, it's only a 32 meg vid card if it makes any difference.

Hope this helps.
Title: We need some information
Post by: TweetyBird on December 19, 2003, 12:55:47 PM: CPU Type/Speed: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: Nvidia GeForce4 MX440 with AGP8X – 64mb ram

Other video settings: AA : OFF AF: OFF
Image settings: High performance

32 bit tests
In tower clipboard down

Test 1:
In-game resolution: 1024x768
Frame rate: 51
Triangle count: 3649
Test 2:
In-game resolution: 800x600
Frame rate: 73
Triangle count: 3122
Test 3:
In-game resolution: 640x480
Frame rate: 73
Triangle count: 2726

16 bit video modes cause:
Initialization failed with –3
MainGR3D_Failed -1
Title: We need some information
Post by: JustJim on December 19, 2003, 02:34:29 PM: Renamed Settings folder, turned off all AA and AF is set to application.

1024x768 32bit

(http://home.comcast.net/~jim_ferreira/wsb/media/141146/site1055.jpg)
Title: We need some information
Post by: AKIron on December 19, 2003, 02:43:40 PM: CPU Type/Speed: P4 2.4GHz
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
In-game video resolution: 1024X768
Frame Rate: 55
Triangle Count: 3696
Other video settings: AA:4X AF:16X

(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/fr.jpg)
(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/fr2.jpg)
Title: We need some information
Post by: Skuzzy on December 19, 2003, 02:47:00 PM: AKIron, out of curiousity, what do you get with no AA and no AF?

Also, what about 1600x1200?

Thanks.
Title: We need some information
Post by: mrblack on December 19, 2003, 05:17:51 PM: Pent4 OC to 3.0 FSB at 1000
512 pc3500 mushkin ram
ATI 9800pro 128mem
DAC 400Mhz CAT 3.10 drivers

VID MEM 130.0
VID MEM USED 54.9

TRIANGLE COUNT 3651

FRAME PER SECOND CLIPBOARD DOWN
1024X768 RES V-SYNCH ENABLED
4X FAA
2XAA 75 FPS:aok
Title: We need some information
Post by: kbman on December 19, 2003, 05:40:07 PM: Athlon XP 1800+ OC'd to 2200+ 1.8 Ghz
MSI GeF 4 4200 128 MB (315/575 core/mem)
41.09 Det all AA & AF disabled
DX 9.0b Win 2K Pro
1024x768 32bit

Tower view clip down 56
Triangle count 3652

kbman
Title: We need some information
Post by: AKIron on December 19, 2003, 05:41:12 PM: No problem Skuzzy. Well almost no problem. I can't tell for sure that there is no AA or AF. If I set to max performance these settings say application preference. If I go custom the lowest I can choose for both is 2X.

Anyhow, I set to max performance for both 1024X768 and 1600X1200

1024X768
(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/1024.jpg)

1600X1200
(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/1600.jpg)
Title: We need some information
Post by: fingers on December 19, 2003, 09:16:19 PM: Here is a helpful form:

CPU Type/Speed: AMD 1.6 1 GB RAm
Video Card Make/Model/Ram:Genforce4 Ti4600 128 Ram
In-game video resolution: 1024x768
Frame Rate: 58
Triangle Count: 3693
Other video settings: AA on. fog on

Frame Rate: 58
Triangle Count: 3652 AA off fog off
Title: We need some information
Post by: bigred on December 19, 2003, 09:19:46 PM: Here's my results Skuzzy:

CPU Type/Speed: Intel 2.4
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ATI 9600 Pro 128mb
In-game video resolution: 1024x768
Frame Rate: 61
Triangle Count: 3652
Vidmem: 130.3mb
Used: 42.0mb
Totaltexmem: 62.5mb
Activetexmem: 42.0mb
Other video settings: AAx2 AFx8

CPU Type/Speed: Intel 2.4
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ATI 9600 Pro 128mb
In-game video resolution: 1600x1200
Frame Rate: 36
Triangle Count: 5245
Vidmem: 125.7mb
Used: 68.6mb
Totaltexmem: 66.1mb
Activetexmem: 44.8mb
Other video settings: AAx2 AFx8

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Of note to me is why simply changing the resolution increased the triangle count that much???

-bigred
Title: We need some information
Post by: Newman on December 20, 2003, 01:06:44 AM: Interesting numbers..

At 16 or 32 BIT it's pretty close. I use 1024X768 all the time, so here it goes!

System is:

Asus A7N8X Dlx rev 1.04
Athlon 2500+ (Barton core) O/C'd to 2.2 GIG
BIOS hacked Radeon 9700 PRO/ 128 MEG
2XGeil 256 MEG RAM in dual mode
DX9A, Win 2K Pro, Omega 2.4.96C Drivers

Results were:

accross the board at 16 or 32 BIT:

FR's in the tower, no map up 78-80
Triangle count, at all settings 3651
Vid mem used: 29-42 MEGS

playing with the in game sliders I was able to get much better results.. but that wasn't this test.

;)

Newman
Title: We need some information
Post by: Starbird on December 20, 2003, 01:21:22 AM: CPU Type/Speed: amd athlon xp 2200+ (1.8ghz)
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ati radeon 9800 pro 128 (catalyst 3.10)
In-game video resolution: 1024x768
Frame Rate: 40 (went up to 42 after 30 seconds or so)
Triangle Count: 3652
Other video settings: AA & AF set to application preference
Title: We need some information
Post by: Wilbus on December 20, 2003, 02:54:46 AM: Changing AA and AF for Direct3D in Windows (tried both Direct3D and OpenGL) doesn't affect my results.

1024x768 32bit unlimited fps
Frame rate 59. Triangle count 3652. It sometimes jumped up to 3590 for a second then back down without me doing anything.

System:
P4 2.4Ghz 533mhz 512Mb RDRAM.
Radeon 9700 128Mb (non pro).
Cataclyst 3.10 drivers.
Direct X9b.
Title: We need some information
Post by: Cooley on December 20, 2003, 03:11:05 AM: after renaming settings folder... and looking out tower offline, map down >

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_147_1071910930.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_147_1071910901.jpg)
Title: Re: We need some information
Post by: ALF on December 20, 2003, 08:46:16 AM: CPU Type/Speed:
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: (you can get this from DXDIAG)
In-game video resolution:
Frame Rate:
Triangle Count:
Other video settings: AA? AF?

AMD Barton 2500+
Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
1 gig ram

(http://www.combathanger.com/testdec.gif)
for the LAST test only
FSAA full 6x and ANSO set at 3/4 with 8x
other settings: Tex and Mipmap set at preformance (one notch from the left. Vsych off)
Title: We need some information
Post by: ergRTC on December 20, 2003, 08:48:24 AM: CPU Type/Speed: p4 2.8 800fsb 512 megs ram
MSI motherboard
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: nvidia geforce 3 ti200 64meg
In-game video resolution:1024X768
Frame Rate: 70 *think its pegged to lcd monitor refresh

Triangle Count: 3655
Other video settings: defaults, card set to application.
Title: We need some information
Post by: guttboy on December 20, 2003, 11:05:27 AM: CPU TYPE/SPEED: P4 2.0Ghz 256mb DDR SDRAM
VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon 9800 XT with 256 MB on it
Direct X version: 9.0 (4.09.0000.0900)

Following tests run with Card settings of:
AA: 2x
AF: 2x
All settings for High performance
VSYNCH always on

1) 1024x768
Video Mem 264.6 Used 32.4
Frame Rate: 44
Triangle cnt: 3652

2) 1280x1024
Video Mem 262.5 Used 38.9
Frame Rate: 42
Triangle cnt: 4467

3) 1600x1200
Video Mem 260.0 Used 46.7
Frame Rate: 38
Triangle cnt: 5245

I ran additional tests with the AA set to 6x and the AF set to 16x...the exact same results were observed as above on each of the tests!

In addition AGP is 4x in bios and aperature(?) is 256.

I hope this helps.....this is an off the shelf Dell Dimension 4400 with the exception of the video card.

Regards...let me know if you need anything else Skuzzy! Happy to help!:aok
Title: Re: We need some information
Post by: Bullethead on December 20, 2003, 11:45:16 AM: CPU Type/Speed: P4 1.7GHz

Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB

In-game video resolution: 1024x768x32

Frame Rate: 34 in tower, clipboard down, no changes made from defaults.

Triangle Count: 3651-3652

Other video settings: AGP 4x, AA 2x, AF 2x. I'm assuming the AA and AF are 2x because on the ATI control panel for them, they're shown in that position but are grayed out. They're grayed because of a checkbox that says "Application Preference".
Title: We need some information
Post by: DES on December 20, 2003, 05:47:50 PM: G3 Ti200 64 meg 45.23 drivers, ansio and aa set to application and image settings to quality.
CPU AMD XP 1600
Resolution 1024x768x32
Framerate 42
Triangle count 3649
Title: We need some information
Post by: 214thCavalier on December 20, 2003, 07:10:45 PM: P4 2.4c oc at 3.0 1000mhz fsb
Powercolor Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb

Vid card settings no AA or AF (set at App prefs)
Texture prefs and mip maps at high setting.

1024 x 768 32 bit clipboard on vidmem 130.3 used 32.4
FPS 67
triangles 5086

Clipboard off
FPS 79 triangles 3651

1600x1200 32 bit clipboard on vidmem 125.7 used 46.7
FPS 61 triangles 6635

Clipboard off
FPS 71 triangles 5290

May be worth trying tomorrow with lowered texture prefs in graphics driver setting ?
Title: We need some information
Post by: Monty405 on December 20, 2003, 08:47:49 PM: avg fps in tower = 40-42ish
triangle count avg = 3640ish

system:

-AMD 2500+ Barton at stock speed (18- -) (forgot what that is 1800 something mhz)

- A7V8X-X Asus Motherboard

- ATI Radeon 9500 pro @ stock speed

- 1024 pc 2700 ddr 333 kingston value ram

- Using Windows XP Pro & DX 9
Title: We need some information
Post by: culero on December 20, 2003, 09:00:10 PM: From a "below-min-specs" system, conditions as specified for the test:

CPU Type/Speed: PIII 550E o'clocked to 682 (124 on the bus, 512MB PC100)
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: Radeon 8500 128MB
In-game video resolution: 1024X768
Frame Rate: 14
Triangle Count: 3658
Other video settings: default
(ATI control panel not loaded, using Catalyst 3.06 drivers v 4.14.0001.9113)

I've played with settings and have been able to get the FRs up to 27 in the tower w/clipboard minimized. Flight is actually OK, dogfights online aren't hampered by any choppiness. Terrain display and interface are where the system's deficiencies show - terrain objects such as trees and towers are choppy-looking until close up, interface controls are sluggish. Better than I expected!

culero
Title: We need some information
Post by: jonnyb on December 20, 2003, 09:37:38 PM: Test 1 -- Default test of 1024x768...

FPS 62
Triangle count 3652

AF and AA app controlled. Image settings to quality.

Test 2 -- 1024x768, 2xAA
FPS 60
Triangle count 3652

Test 3 -- 1024x768, 2xQAA (quincunx algorithm)
FPS 61
Triangle count 3652

Test 3 -- 1024x768, 4xAA
FPS 57
Triangle count 3652

Test 4 -- 1024x768, 4xSAA
FPS 57
Triangle count 3652

Test 5 -- 1024x768, 2xAF
FPS 63
Triangle count 3652

Test 6 -- 1024x768, 4xAF
FPS 63
Triangle count 3652

Test 7 -- 1024x768, 8xAF
FPS 63
Triangle count 3652

Test 8 -- 1024x768, 2xAA, 2xAF
FPS 60
Triangle count 3652

Test 9 -- 1600x120, 4xSAA, 8xAF
FPS 17
Triangle count 5247

Test 10 (settings I use to play) -- 1280x1024, 2xAA, 2xAF
FPS 56
Triangle count 4468

System specs:
XP 2000+
640M crucial pc2100
Geforce 4 ti4600 128M -- nvidia reference drivers 52.16
directx9.0b
Windows XP with all latest patches
desktop @ 1280x1024 32bit color @100Hz
Title: We need some information
Post by: CornGiveAway on December 21, 2003, 12:04:27 AM: Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
No problem Skuzzy. Well almost no problem. I can't tell for sure that there is no AA or AF. If I set to max performance these settings say application preference. If I go custom the lowest I can choose for both is 2X.

Anyhow, I set to max performance for both 1024X768 and 1600X1200

1024X768
(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/1024.jpg)

1600X1200
(http://www.inettek.com/stuff/1600.jpg)

If you set it to application preference its like disabling it unless the game has a control to unable it inside the game .If you uncheck the boxes its basicaly forcing the settings you set the sliders at on the app.
Title: We need some information
Post by: CornGiveAway on December 21, 2003, 02:22:17 AM: AMD Barton at 2.19ghz
Radion 9700"non pro"128ram
res 1024/768
FR 53
tri count 5041
AA 6 times
AF 16 times
Title: We need some information
Post by: Bullethead on December 21, 2003, 03:34:24 PM: Is it too much to ask you broadband folks to just type the numbers instead of posting all these huge screenshots? Us still cursed with skinnyband would really appreciated it. Thanks.
Title: We need some information
Post by: AKIron on December 22, 2003, 09:02:26 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Bullethead
Is it too much to ask you broadband folks to just type the numbers instead of posting all these huge screenshots? Us still cursed with skinnyband would really appreciated it. Thanks.

The pics I posted are only 28k and 38k, hardly huge and fast to d/l even for a dial-up.
Title: We need some information
Post by: guttboy on December 22, 2003, 11:09:10 AM: I kinda like the pics.....how is it that you can put them in there? I dont know how to post a picture in there....any suggestions? Also how do you cut it down....photoshoP?

Thanks....

Mike

PS for the TESTS I have another 512mb ram otw to see how that works....seems like the radeons are only working off the CPU and not the card at all....just an assumption here based on what I have seen

SKUZZY.....Ill be home all week pretty much let us know if you need more tests run:aok
Title: We need some information
Post by: Flossy on December 22, 2003, 12:02:39 PM: Quote
Originally posted by guttboy
I kinda like the pics.....how is it that you can put them in there? I dont know how to post a picture in there....any suggestions? Also how do you cut it down....photoshoP?
Yes, first resize your screenshots to about 800x600 or less which works well, and save in jpg format, using Photoshop/PaintshopPro or similar. Then post your resized jpgs onto a website - if you don't have webspace, there are several people around offering it, like Saw. Once on a website, click the IMG tag above, paste in the complete url of your picture and click OK - Submit your message and your picture will show. :)
Title: We need some information
Post by: guttboy on December 22, 2003, 12:25:30 PM: thanks flossy i dont have a website...not sure how to upload to it...but will try thanks for the help...:)
Title: We need some information
Post by: Flossy on December 22, 2003, 01:49:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by guttboy
thanks flossy i dont have a website...not sure how to upload to it...but will try thanks for the help...:)
Try Saintaw (Saw)'s Picture Hangar (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/) :)
Title: We need some information
Post by: osage on December 22, 2003, 05:24:17 PM: CPU Type/Speed: P4C2.8 800FSB 1GB RAM
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: Radeon 9700 Pro 128, DX9.0b
In-game video resolution: 1024*768
Frame Rate: 74
Triangle Count: 3651
Other video settings: AA? AF?: Default, application preference

CPU Type/Speed: P4C2.8 800FSB 1GB RAM
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: Radeon 9700 Pro 128, DX9.0b
In-game video resolution: 1024*768
Frame Rate: 74
Triangle Count: 3651
Other video settings: AA: 6X AF: 8X

@1600 res same settings
Frame Rate: 55
Triangle Count: 5247

Pretty amazing the percentage who replied that can't follow your simple instructions so you can get a good comparison. Not exactly Navy Seal material, I guess.
Title: We need some information
Post by: ALF on December 22, 2003, 07:36:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by guttboy
thanks flossy i dont have a website...not sure how to upload to it...but will try thanks for the help...:)

Ummmm yes you do
Title: We need some information
Post by: Kwan on December 22, 2003, 07:38:43 PM: (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/namaste1/Clipboard01.jpg)

1024x768 at 32bit color

AMD Barton 2500 running at 2306mhz
Abit nf7
2x 256 pc2700 Corsair XMS memory
ATI 9700 pro 128mem/no overclock
Title: We need some information
Post by: psob2 on December 23, 2003, 04:57:42 AM: Tower with clipboard up, in game all video settings on default
FPS - 65
Triangle Cnt 5041

Tower without clipboard, in game all video settings default
FPS 77
Triangle Cnt 3651

CPU Type/Speed: intel 2.8
875pbz intel mobo
Video Card: radeon 9700 pro 128M)
1024M DDR400
audigy gamer
In-game video resolution: 1024x768 32 bit
AA and AF aplication controlled
Vsync disabled
Title: We need some information
Post by: helllo on December 23, 2003, 06:55:06 AM: After the splash screen I get a light blue screen that I can Alt-Tab out, but I can't do anything with it.

NVIDIA 4600TI

1076x786

DX9

with the lastest and greatest drivers
Title: We need some information
Post by: NHawk on December 24, 2003, 12:47:25 PM: CPU Type/Speed: Intel P4-2.53Ghz
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: NVIDIA GeForce4/Ti 4600/128mb
In-game video resolution: 1024 x 768 / 32bit color depth / Unlimited frame rate / Disable palettized textures un-checked
Frame Rate: 70
Triangle Count: 3651-3696
Other video settings: AA & AF both set to "controlled by application". Monitor refresh set to 100Hz.

NOTE: Triangle count seems to change when the AI planes move in front of the tower. At least the timing seems that way even though you can't see the AI planes when it happens.
Title: We need some information
Post by: Citabria on December 26, 2003, 01:18:37 PM: ah2 all default settings

(http://www.r0013636.hostultra.com/uploads/data/media/1/ah2performance.jpg)
Title: We need some information
Post by: Roscoroo on December 28, 2003, 03:53:58 AM: CPU Type/Speed: Ecs k7s5a AMD 1.3 ghz 266 fbs 512 ram
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: GF 2 mx 400 64mb 30.82 drivers
In-game video resolution: 800x 600 x32bit
Frame Rate: 28
Triangle Count:3680---- 3750

DX 9.0b
win 98se
Title: We need some information
Post by: F4i on December 29, 2003, 03:02:13 AM: When I took the screenshot, my fps showed at 61. I was surprised to see this:

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_77_1072688401.jpg)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_77_1072688451.jpg)

TBolt
Title: We need some information
Post by: zanshin on January 01, 2004, 09:22:48 AM: CPU Type/Speed: AMD Athlon 64 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2Ghz, 1GB Ram
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: (you can get this from DXDIAG) RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB
Other video settings:
OPEN GL, Direct 3D
Both Main Setting at Optimal Quality
AA 4X samples, AF 16X samples

No settings Folder. clipboard down, Tower view

In-game video resolution: 1024x768
Frame Rate: 49
Triangle Count: 3657

In-game video resolution: 1028x1024
Frame Rate: 42
Triangle Count: 4473

Zanshin
Title: We need some information
Post by: zanshin on January 01, 2004, 09:34:09 AM: Correected report (think settings not "Appplied" on video card settings first time round.

CPU Type/Speed: AMD Athlon 64 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2Ghz, 1GB Ram
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: (you can get this from DXDIAG) RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB
Other video settings:

AA 4X samples, AF 16X samples

No settings Folder. clipboard down, Tower view

OPEN GL, Direct 3D
Both Main Setting at Optimal Quality

In-game video resolution: 1024x768
Frame Rate: 43
Triangle Count: 3657

In-game video resolution: 1280x1024
Frame Rate: 37
Triangle Count: 4468

OPEN GL, Direct 3D
Both Main Setting at Max Performance

In-game video resolution: 1024x768
Frame Rate: 48
Triangle Count: 3696

In-game video resolution: 1280x1024
Frame Rate: 42
Triangle Count: 4473

Zanshin
Title: We need some information
Post by: Kaz on January 01, 2004, 07:37:48 PM: CPU Type/Speed: Intel P4 1.5Ghz
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ATI Radeon 9500 PRO 128MB
In-game video resolution: 1024x768/32 bit
Frame Rate: 29
Triangle Count: 3651
Other video settings: AA/AF set to application preference
Title: We need some information
Post by: Ike 2K# on January 04, 2004, 06:12:30 PM: Test from 1.997 BETA

CPU Type/Speed:
- Intel Celeron 700 MhZ :)

* Memory:
- 384mb PC 133 SDRAM

Video Card Make/Model/Ram:
- ATi Radeon 7500 PCI, 64 Mb

In-game video resolution:
- 1024 x 768 32 BIT

Frame Rate:
- Tower = 10 FPS :)

Triangle Count:
- 3649

Other video settings: AA? AF?
- Anti Aliasing = application refference (OFF)
- Anistrophic Filtering = application refference (OFF)
Title: We need some information
Post by: Reaper5 on January 08, 2004, 01:58:49 PM: FPS: 47
Triangle Count: 3607

With vid card options you mentioned turned off of course.

System:

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600)
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.5GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 152MB used, 1048MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)

---------------
Display Device
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce FX 5200
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Title: We need some information
Post by: oboe on January 12, 2004, 07:04:00 AM: CPU Type/Speed: Intel Pentium 4 2.80Ghz (2 CPUs), 510 Mb RAM, DirectX 8.1

Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB
Other video settings: 1280x1024, 32 bit
Anti Aliasing: Application Preference
Max Resolution: 1600x1200
Anisotropic Filtering: Application Preference
Anisotropic Filter Method: Application Preference
Texture Preference: High Quality
MipMap Detail: High Quality
Vert Synch: Application Preference
TRUFORM (tm): Always Off

Frame Rate: 54
Triangle Count: 5845
Title: Where and how do i get AH2
Post by: 68JrBc on January 14, 2004, 08:01:06 PM: I can't figure out where to go to download and install AH2. I've heard other people talking about playing it online and offline, but i just can't figure out where to get it at.

Anybody that can tell me would be great/

68JrBc
XO 68th Lightning Lancers
Fighter Wing CO

"For those who are about to rock, we salute you."

- AC/DC
Title: We need some information
Post by: Flit on January 15, 2004, 11:51:54 AM: look in the "News/Announcements" forum
Title: We need some information
Post by: Splurts on January 21, 2004, 08:52:54 PM: CPU Type/Speed: AMD Athelon 1.2ghz
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: NVidea GeForce4 Ti 4200 with 8x AGP, 128mb DDR
In-game video resolution:1024x768
Frame Rate:16-20
Triangle Count:7535-7551
Other video settings: Out of box settings

Splurts
Title: We need some information
Post by: Charon on January 22, 2004, 02:03:35 PM: Patch 10/setting folder renamed

CPU Type/Speed: AMD Barton 2500
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: Ati 9500 pro / 128 (4.14 drivers)
In-game video resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 32
Frame Rate: 51 (initial “settings” clipboard)/ 45 (map clipboard)
Triangle Count: 4939 (initial “settings” clipboard)/ 6340 (map clipboard)
Other video settings: AA? AF? Both set to “application preference” with no notable difference when both set to the lowest manual setting (x2). Textures set to “high quality”

Additional
MB: Asus A7V8X-X (latest bios/latest 4-in-1 drivers)
Ram: 512 @ 333/CL2/fast timings
OS: Win 98SE updated/DX 9.0b
Spyware clean and minimal taskbar, etc.

My AH results seem to be perhaps a bit slower (perhaps not) than similar 9500/9600 pro users and, of course, much slower than Nvidia users. I hope this gets resolved since I don’t really feel in the mood to spend another couple of hundred dollars on an Nvidia video card (say a 5700 ultra) just to get better performance in AH but equal or slightly less performance anywhere else.

My 3Dmark 2003 score is right where it should be for this hardware, maybe a bit on the faster side (3531) and my UT2003 benchmarks are also pretty close.

Charon
Title: We need some information
Post by: Charon on January 27, 2004, 10:30:12 AM: LOL. I loaded AH2 build 12 on my "B" machine with less CPU Mhz and slower RAM -- but a Gforce 3 -- and got 1-2 fps higher than my faster machine with an Ati 9500 pro (also retested on build 12 with no improvement in FPS over 11).

The "B" machine

CPU Type/Speed: AMD 2100
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: Gforce 3 /64 mb
In-game video resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 32
Frame Rate: 53 (initial “settings” clipboard)/ 46 (map clipboard)
Triangle Count: 4940 (initial “settings” clipboard)/ 6355 (map clipboard)
Other video settings: AA? AF? both to 0/application control

Charon
Title: We need some information
Post by: Mayhem on January 29, 2004, 07:47:19 AM: Not sure if this is a bug or not but using ATI CAT 3.10 CAT 4.1 and Omega CAT 4.1 I get the exact same scores in the AH2 Tower test. Not only that but I get Same reguardless of setting

1024x768x32 6xAA 16xAF all setting to High quality
58 FPS x 5090 TC

1024x768x32 no AA no AF All Settings to High Preformance
58 fps x5090 TC

I have even checked to make sure AA and AF had taken effect they did.

My system specs are

ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW 128mb
Intel P4 2.8 Ghz HT on 800 MHZ bus
1GB (512x2) Cas 2 LL pc3200 DDR Mem
Creative Labs Audoligy 2 ZS Plat
GIGABYTE GA-8KNXP INTEL 875P MB
WD DMA100 120gb 8mb 7200rpm HDD (X2)
Title: We need some information
Post by: Booky on February 06, 2004, 09:27:59 AM: I think this is a silly trick to allow Skuzzy to take a hidden poll on what CPU is best, AMD or Intel :D

Paranoia is great:aok
Title: We need some information
Post by: FOGOLD on February 14, 2004, 08:47:15 AM: I get diabolocal frame rate. On runway spit IX. Default settings

FR=30-40 at most.

2000xp
1 gig ram
9800 Pro 128 4.2 Catalysts
Title: We need some information
Post by: ChasR on February 14, 2004, 11:36:05 AM: AA & AF off, All other settings max quality
Map View on Clipboard (text views about 10fps higher)
1024 x 768 72 fps 6341 tc
1280 x 1024 70 fps 7235 tc
1600 x 1200 64 fps 8514 tc

AA x6 AF x 16, All other settings max quality
Map View on Clipboard
1024 x 768 71 fps 6340 tc
1280 x 1024 68 fps 7236 tc
1600 x 1200 48 fps 8561 tc (map scrambled - unreadable)

Error message received on start up = Invalid Model Number
Title: We need some information
Post by: ChasR on February 16, 2004, 01:53:49 PM: AMD XP 2500+ (Barton) @ 2.15 GHz (200 x 10.5)
Abit NF7-S
Corsair TwinX512 DDR400 ram
ATI 9600 Pro @ 484/688 (344x2)

AH2 Beta 13 In Tower Clipboard closed.

AA and AF off, Balanced
1024 x 768 63 fps 4951 tc
1280 x 1024 60 fps 5846 tc
1600 x 1200 56 fps 7169 tc

AA x6 AF x16, Maximum Quality
1024 x 768 63 fps 4950 tc
1280 x 1024 52 fps 5845tc
1600 x 1200 18 fps 7126 tc

Notes:
Error Message: Invalid Model Number
At 100 x 1200 AA x6 AF x16, max quality, clipboard open to map: Map is scrambled - unreadable

WILLllll
15/JG52 "Air Legion"
Title: We need some information
Post by: ChasR on February 19, 2004, 04:07:32 PM: Improvement noticed in Beta 14 using Cat 4.2 vs Beta 13 Cat 4.1

AMD XP 2500+ (Barton) @ 2.15 GHz (200 x 10.5)
Abit NF7-S
Corsair TwinX512 DDR400 ram
ATI 9600 Pro @ 484/688 (344x2) Cat 4.2

AH2 Beta 14 In Tower Clipboard closed.

AA and AF off, Balanced
1024 x 768 64 fps 5039 tc (+1)
1280 x 1024 62 fps 5934 tc (+2)
1600 x 1200 58 fps 7213 tc (+2)

AA x6 AF x16, Maximum Quality
1024 x 768 64 fps 5039 tc (+1)
1280 x 1024 53 fps 5934tc (+2)
1600 x 1200 18 fps 7215tc (NC, all 128 MB used)
Title: Re: Re: We need some information
Post by: Bullethead on February 23, 2004, 02:48:48 AM: This was the situation on 20 Dec 03:
Quote
Originally posted by Bullethead
CPU Type/Speed: P4 1.7GHz

Video Card Make/Model/Ram: ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB

In-game video resolution: 1024x768x32

Frame Rate: 34 in tower, clipboard down, no changes made from defaults.

Triangle Count: 3651-3652

Other video settings: AGP 4x, AA 2x, AF 2x. I'm assuming the AA and AF are 2x because on the ATI control panel for them, they're shown in that position but are grayed out. They're grayed because of a checkbox that says "Application Preference".

In Beta 15, with the same system, and all vidcard settings set for max performance at the expense of quality (I assume 2xAA and 2xAF), I get the following:

Frame Rate: 29-30
Triangles: 5066-5127
Title: We need some information
Post by: ChasR on February 24, 2004, 04:47:24 PM: Discoverd that quality settings, other than AA & AF, on the vid card have no effect in the game. Based on my results, DUH. should have figured that a bit earlier. Results in Beta 15 tower no clipboard:

AMD XP 2500+ (Barton) @ 2.15 GHz (200 x 10.5)
Abit NF7-S
Corsair TwinX512 DDR400 ram
ATI 9600 Pro @ 484/688 (344x2) Cat 4.2 Rage3D Tweak

Card Settings AA & AF Off
Game Settings Default

1024 x 768, 32bit 64 FPS 5066 TC
1280 x 1024, 32 bit 60 FPS 5967 TC
1600 x 1200, 32 bit 57 FPS 7241 TC

Card Settings AA x4 AF off
Game settings max quality

1024 x 768, 32bit 22 FPS 24130 TC
1280 x 1024, 32 bit 21 FPS 24136 TC
1600 x 1200, 32 bit 21 FPS 25522 TC
Title: We need some information
Post by: cjones on February 25, 2004, 08:49:23 PM: AMD Athlon 2500+ Barton/ 2200Mhz (Overclocked)
Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256MB
In-game video resolution: 1024*768
Frame Rate: 74
Triangle Count: 4705
Other video settings: 4x AA, 8x AF
Title: Re: We need some information
Post by: Bullethead on February 28, 2004, 09:22:19 PM: Beta 16
Everything default with my regular \settings folder renamed.

CPU Type/Speed: P4/1.7
Video Card: 128MB ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
In-game video resolution: default
Frame Rate: 32
Triangle Count: 4900-5000
Other video settings: set to "application preference"

While this is not really that different from beta 15, it all feels faster. Loading times are much reduced, FPS away from fields is higher, and I can see buildings further away than before.
Title: We need some information
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on March 02, 2004, 07:57:27 AM: Test on Beta 16:

System:
Soltek SL75 FRN2 RL
AMD mobile Barton 2500+ @ 210X10.5
512 MB OCZ PC4000EL Dual Channel Gold
WD Raptor 37gig Raid
GeForce 3 Ti 200 64MB 4X AGP
Windows 2000 Pro Latest upgrades

Frame rates: 74
Video Mem 63.3 MB Used 33.6
Resolution 1024X768
Triangle count 4957 (spikes to 5002)
FSAA off

Settings were absolute default on a fresh download and install of Beta 16 patch, original version was Beta 15.

My frame rate is much the same as AH, it is 75 there and never varies. It is 74 here and never varied in Beta 14, we'll see about 16 soon. I have not actually flown AHII since Beta 14, and then only once. I will try to fly some this week.

edit: I took a quick hop before heading to work, without even really setting anything up. In the air, even behind a smoking plane, I had 75 FPS. When looking at ground objects the FPS did drop to around 60 FPS. I have not overclocked the Geforce 3 card, it is at default settings.

Hope this helps.
Title: We need some information
Post by: Blkhorse on March 08, 2004, 05:42:39 PM: Test from BETA 16

CPU Type/Speed:
- Intel P4 3.06 Ghz with Hyper Threading Enabled

Memory:
- 1 Gig PC1066 Rambus

Video Card Make/Model/Ram:
- ATi Radeon 9700 All-In-Wonder 128MB

In-game video resolution:
- 1024 x 768 32 BIT

Frame Rate:
- Tower = 41 Fps

Triangle Count:
- 4969

VidMem=127.9M USED 33.6M
TotalVertBuff=13239k Active 3194k Inactive 10044k
TotalTexMem= 65.1M ActiveTexMem 45.4M

Other video settings: AA? AF?

OPEN GL
- Anti Aliasing: Application Preference
- Anistrophic Filtering: Application Preference
-Texture Preference: High Quality
-Mipmap Detail Level: High Quality
-Wait for Vertical Sync: Default Off
-TRUFORM: Always Off

Direct 3D
- Anti Aliasing: Application Preference
- Anistrophic Filtering: Application Preference
-Texture Preference: High Quality
-Mipmap Detail Level: High Quality
-Wait for Vertical Sync: Application Preference
-TRUFORM: Always Off
Title: RE: We need some information
Post by: MaddMax on March 13, 2004, 12:07:18 AM: I ran the test at two in-game video resolutions:

CPU Type/Speed: Pentium 4 3.0MHz
Video Card Make/Model/Ram: RADEON 9600 XT APG 128MB

In-game video resolution: 1024 X 768
Frame Rate: 100
Triangle Count: 4557
Other video settings: AA = Application Preferance
AF = Application Preferance

In-game video resolution: 1280 X 1024
Frame Rate: 81
Triangle Count: 4874
Other video settings: AA = Application Preferance
AF = Application Preferance
Title: We need some information
Post by: Thomas J Simmon on March 16, 2004, 02:37:19 PM: From Deadcow;

Clipboard off, in tower,

Pent. 4 , 1.8 gig, 512 Ram

NVDIA G3Force 3

Video RES: 1024x768
Color Depth: 32 Bit
Max Frame: Rate UnLimited
Disable Palattized Texture: unchecked

FPS: 42

Triangle Count: 4959

Vid Mem: 63.3 used 28.1 M

Total-Vert: Buff 13245K, Active 3194K, Inactive 10050K

Total Tex Men: 24.6m, Active Tex Men 15.5
:aok