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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mad0Max on December 21, 2003, 09:01:54 PM
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I want my 200 perk points back!
I was in a 262 diving at about 500 when an LA7 climbed right up in front of me, missed me. Then he did an instant turn and out ran my 262 at 500! Shot me down in a dive and he passed me. This all happened in about 5-10secs.
The SOB was someone name FWRY, or FRWY.
I do NOT pay HT for this kind of crap. I want my 200 points back., or my account reset.
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if you don't have a film, don't cry...fly a hurri c for a while
and stay low
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No... I think it's time for me to join everyone else and start cheating.
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:rolleyes:
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IMO using "Did you film it?" is a poor excuse to give someone.
You can not tell me EVERYONE wants to or is willing to fill their
HDs with flt films and then take the time to delete them. I am sure
I am like the majority of the players and only film stuff I think is
good. Usually by the time something strange happens it's too
late to film. Then, of course, when you talk about it on Ch 1
you're asked "Did you film it? No? then you can't complain."
There has got to be a log or something HT can check to see
if something was/is amiss.
SCDR
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can you say over speed in the 262 x the fact that the la7 probely got a snap shot on ya ...
And 200 perks ... i doubt it I heard that they were giving them away to the Bish's tonight ..
only way to prove it is with film ...
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Have you considered the fact that maybe that la7 pilot was a better pilot than you? You can't say that you wasn't do anything but flying along going 500 mph when all of a sudden that la7 whips around and shoots you. For all we know, you was tryin' to turnfight him and lost.
So, without film tough luck. Fly an la5.
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It sounds like the La7 dove from above and behind you at very high speed, overshot under and then out in front of you in the process of pulling a loop to get onto your six. This means he was going faster than you to begin with and then bled enough speed in his loop to match speeds with you, after which he killed you easily.
Wait, let me guess that you're going to say that it didn't happen that way. Well, then show us the film. Otherwise we're just going to have to assume that you blew it against a better pilot and are merely venting on the forums without proof to the contrary.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Had a similar experience, I was in a mossie other guy was in 262. He swore up and down I was cheating yadda yadda. He figured I going a lot faster than I should have when in fact all I did was turn inside his circle.
There been a few other times, Once even when I was in a ZEEK and other guy was in a 163. Same sort of thing, guy said he was filming gonna report it etc. etc. etc. (course he never did once he watched the film himself)
Sometimes you *think* you understand what is going on outside the cockpit, but you really don't.
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Spot on, Levi. I would guess that way too.
In numerous occasions, in the times I fly H2H games I would sometimes see people accusing me of a 'cheat'. So I ask them 'just what exactly do you think happened, that you accuse me of being so'
They describe the details of the engagement on their own accord - which, from my point of view, is about 99% bullshi*, where they leave out the zillion mistakes they made, zillion possibilities and zillion oversights. If everybody flies in the way the 'cheater accusers' describes themselves, nobody would be ever shot down - I mean, when nobody makes any important and fatal mistakes, how does anyone ever get shot down?
Not to mention elaborate and comfortable exaggerations in relative E states, speeds, positions and etc.. in those rare cases where a film actually exists, people go over it and easily discover that a lot of the claims are exagerated as can be. Most usually we can assume that when a certain 'cheat account' is described, the person being shot down is actually slower than he claims to have been, the person that shot him down is actually faster than he is claimed to be, and the situation is most certainly not as claimed to be.
So, if there's no film, it's bunk.
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Originally posted by Mad0Max
I want my 200 perk points back!
I was in a 262 diving at about 500 when an LA7 climbed right up in front of me, missed me. Then he did an instant turn and out ran my 262 at 500! Shot me down in a dive and he passed me. This all happened in about 5-10secs.
The SOB was someone name FWRY, or FRWY.
I do NOT pay HT for this kind of crap. I want my 200 points back., or my account reset.
Hmmm .... I think you really oughta show them and quit.
Good luck. :D
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I Know FRWAY,He and I were Avengers together in AW....FR. I think ya just got eaten by a bigger fish. Goin fast in a hot plane dosen't make ya invinsable, just an atractive target.
Gunns
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I was in the arena when this happened, and I dare say that it was right around the time you were whining, complaining, moaning and groaning about every aspect of the game that didn't go your way.
I remember telling you to quit bellyaching and play the game.
Shame you didn't take my advice, looks like you got your butt shot out from under you.
And BTW, If this is the Frwy I've known since early AW, formed and ran multiple scenarios with, your lucky he didn't shoot you Twice in that same flight. He normally kills the dweebs after they fall out of the plane.
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Originally posted by ROCrats
He normally kills the dweebs after they fall out of the plane.
A cheater AND a chute shooter?! I'm not sure which is worse. This horrible bastard should be banned for sure! Now, come with me Mad0Max...we'll take a nice quiet walk on the beach to calm you down.
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C'mon guys.. tell him the truth.
There's almost no doubt that the dreaded GEOMETRY CHEAT[/color] was used on his poor defenseless 262.
Oh yeah, the Geometry Cheat.
It's out there. It's very deadly.
and not that many know the secrets of the guild anymore.
Good luck. Try potions and incantations; some say that helps.
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Simple rule!
If you can't afford to lose it!
Don't fly It!!:D
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You guys have to realize that everytime Mad0Max gets shot down it was because the other guy cheated. He sure must had done something bad to the cheaters to make them hunt him like that. If HT was smart, he'd use Mad0Max as bait to catch all the cheaters since they seem to flock to him in droves.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Mad0Max
No... I think it's time for me to join everyone else and start cheating.
Like you could figure out a way to hack this game ... :rolleyes:
I think that Dale might be having a conversation with you, but it won't be about getting your measly 200 perks back. Threatening to hack this game does not bode well with HT.
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Also remember that the plane you think shoots you is not always the one that actually killed you.
Example: Tonight was about 12k in Spit IX had just leveled out after a fight with a P51.
All of a sudden this Me 262 pops up in front of my gun sight and and starts to go over the top and drop back down on his prey.
He was belly towards me and just hung there about 400 yds out for a split second, just long enough for me to put a quick burst into him and "POOF" he was gone.
I'll leave his name out because he's a pretty good stick and I think he was just target fixated and didnt realize he zoomed up in front of another con.
That and I dont want to jinx a gift.
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I turned film on today to film an alledged cheat, only to have my system freeze and then disconnect from the game. I emptied the film folder of the three-hundred films I have and that cleared the problem up. I still dont believe there was a cheat involved, just noobs that dont recognize energy states for what they are.
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Like its impossible to cheat in AH :rolleyes:
You "Vets" posting here should get of the soapboxes your standing on...
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Film everything. I always do. Most films I never watch. But I rename "interesting" films to names which identify what they were about, and those with names like filmxx.ahf can be deleted after a week or two. My film folder is still only 377MB in size and I haven't even been deleteing the old films for the last few months.
Don't cry cheat! You would need to have reviewed the film yourself to see what happened. I remember one time egressing from a fight in a 109G10, and being worried about a YAK in my 5 o'clock. He was at 800 yards or more, when BOOM - I'm dead. Hell of a lucky shot, I thought. Reviewed the film and doh! There was another plane (can't remember which type, but something very fast) in my low 7 that I hadn't seen.
MetaTron: I used to have that same lock up problem when starting the film recorder. The screen would lock for many seconds, and in most cases AH would get aborted and I would crash to desktop. It only happened when starting the film recorder the first time in each AH session. I was able to get round it by starting the recorder in the tower. But since upgrading my PC (Asus A7N8X DLX, XP2600 etc.) the problem has gone away.
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a couple of days ago i was called a cheater after i killed a F6f F4u-c1 and a seafire while i flew a hurriC. boy was i happy :D
the guy said he filmed me. so i asked him to post it on the BBs cause its a nice job of ACM i pulled there :D
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Originally posted by Toad
Oh yeah, the Geometry Cheat.
It's out there. It's very deadly.
and not that many know the secrets of the guild anymore.
Good luck. Try potions and incantations; some say that helps.
Put on your robe and wizard hat before flying. It helps. Really....
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sounds like you got pwned
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Life ain't fair. Tonight I was diving away from a Yak in my F4u-1d. I had no idea they could go that fast. To make a long story short, I thought my goose was cooked...the Yak closed to within 419 yards.
I looped the Corsair vertically and over, and then did everything I could think of that would mess up his shot. Fortunately my countrymen got his attention for a second, and I shot him down. I got behind him and shot from about 250 yards. Even hit my helper's plane somewhat. Killshooter didn't get me.
By all rights, I should have been the one to be shot down, and would have been too, if not for help.
Les
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Originally posted by Mad0Max
I want my 200 perk points back!
I was in a 262 diving at about 500 when an LA7 climbed right up in front of me, missed me. Then he did an instant turn and out ran my 262 at 500! Shot me down in a dive and he passed me. This all happened in about 5-10secs.
The SOB was someone name FWRY, or FRWY.
I do NOT pay HT for this kind of crap. I want my 200 points back., or my account reset.
Did ya happen to notice if you heard a HO HO HO as the Lavochkin passed? Probably the St. Nick hack. It`s a known prob that allways appears around mid to late December. :rolleyes:
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So, you are not about solving an issue you have, but more for causing more problems for everyone. I get it.