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Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: LePaul on December 22, 2003, 10:16:39 AM
Skuzzy

Are their any special ports required to be open, or background applications that would cause VOX to drop after a certain amount of time?

I have nights where it lasts an hour, and some, 45 minutes.  Its annoying to have to log out and log in again to get it back...and really not quite possible if you loose it midstream in a long buff or goon sortie.

Thanks...
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: dedalos on December 22, 2003, 10:23:19 AM
Sounds like you are complaining.  He will probably lock the thread
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: MetaTron on December 22, 2003, 10:41:51 AM
Seems to me that vox is a separate program that conflicts with some specific chipsets. I'm not sure, but the same people in my squad always seem to lose vox regularly. I'm running a DFI LAN Party KT400A and I never seem to lose vox.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Max on December 22, 2003, 12:16:39 PM
I've been asking the same question for months :(

DmdMax
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Elfie on December 22, 2003, 01:25:47 PM
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Seems to me that vox is a separate program that conflicts with some specific chipsets. I'm not sure, but the same people in my squad always seem to lose vox regularly. I'm running a DFI LAN Party KT400A and I never seem to lose vox.


Same with 4Wing, same people lose vox over and over throughout the night. My vox never goes out though....it's really wierd.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: 214thCavalier on December 22, 2003, 01:37:44 PM
I do lose vox occasionally and i am convinced it happens when some people transmit and it knocks it out.
However a quick alt tab out and back in cures it.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: dracon on December 22, 2003, 01:42:26 PM
339th is the same way.

We have 2 pilots that specifically lose it all the time.

Very odd!  They have done the quick fixes, upgrading DirectX, upgrading drivers, and turning Hardware Acceleration Down 1 or 2 notches.  It helped a coupla guys but......some it didn't.

If this helps, I am personally runnning a TB Santa Cruz and have never lost VOX.

Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Sadist on December 22, 2003, 02:31:39 PM
If the same people are constantly losing vox and others not it has to be either sound card or chip set.....makes sense right?:D
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: JB73 on December 22, 2003, 02:53:24 PM
ya .. squad CO JB42 loses vox all the time. a couple others in squad too.

i think i have lost vox MAYBE 1 time in the last year.

i get the "frozen key-up" or whatever where somone stays keyed up on my front end about once a week... but just alt-esc out of the game and come back in everything's ok.

JB42 has his ound accel down to zero to try and combat this.

will let you know.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Estes on December 22, 2003, 03:32:00 PM
Sometimes mine goes out. There for awhile it never went out, it started again recently. Using a SB Audigy 2 Platinum.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Skuzzy on December 22, 2003, 05:34:13 PM
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Originally posted by dedalos
Sounds like you are complaining.  He will probably lock the thread


That was out of line and did not offer one thing to this thread.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Skuzzy on December 22, 2003, 05:39:37 PM
I wish there was a good answer for this.  It's the most inconsistent problem there is.

It does seem to effect squad channel more than anything else.

I could easily see other applications causing problems, if they use sound for something and are ill-behaved about sharing the sound card, in the Windows environment.
HT has gone over it and over it.

Anti-virus programs will definately aggrevate the issue.  Firewalls might aggrevate it.  Limited bandwidth connections could aggrevate it.  Onboard sound devices will definately make it worse, particularly the AC97 devices.

Other than that, I do not know what to say.  There is not a firm fix nor answer I can give to anyone.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: DipStick on December 22, 2003, 05:46:05 PM
I never have a problem until the MA gets over 450-475 players. Then my vox goes out intermitantly. I can play in CT or MA when numbers in 2-300s for hours with no problem. Log in primtime with 500+ nowadays and vox goes out about every 1/2 to 1 hour. It is a bummer having to log out and in alot. I would even guess that adds to the problem for other too? My $0.02...
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: mrblack on December 22, 2003, 06:12:19 PM
I never lose vox!
Intell P4 2.4 OC @3.0
ATI9800Pro
Audigy Ex sound card
2x256 mushkin pc3500 ram
 and yada tada yada.
Cable internet Thanks AL Gore.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Roscoroo on December 22, 2003, 07:09:25 PM
I finally got mine to work ... again after 6 mo's of beating my head

its AC97 on my ecs k7s5a mb ... <-- the fire surviver its been thru hell but still runs smooth and games great .
 
it worked great last year befor 1.114 ...

I ended up configuring port 80 for out bound and i tweeked hundreds of other things ... then all of a sudden it started working again ... it does fade out if i talk a long time on squad channel... its turned up to full excelleration again .

could port 80 been it i wonder ??? (i think that was my last change ) I also gained VC back in msn messenger it was gone also befor i opened that port ..

i just have protocals and ports configured on my gateway pc

AV program is on manual scan on my pc ..
700kbps dsl connect .
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: MetaTron on December 22, 2003, 09:05:15 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
 Onboard sound devices will definately make it worse, particularly the AC97 devices.


That's interesting. As I said, I never lose vox, yet my motherboard has C-Media AC97 onboard sound.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: LePaul on December 22, 2003, 09:06:48 PM
Thanks for the answer, or attempt, Skuzzy  :)

Its a maddening thing that works for some, problematic for others.

I'm running a Linksys router with all the required ports open.  Norton is disabled when i enter the game and that's all that's running.

Someone suggested making myself the DMZ host...no effect.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: dedalos on December 23, 2003, 08:42:06 AM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
That was out of line and did not offer one thing to this thread.


I guess I am tired of this thing and others like the spit 5 catching a diving LA7 at speed 450 after the spit makes a 180 degree climing turn. The single 303 ping that takes both wings off, etc.  I can go on for ever but it wont matter, will it?  

The reason for my comment is that I do pay $15 a month (prepaid for 6 months) and I don't see any fixes to customer problems.  I did see however that a thread was locked because someone got the impresion that a system problem was a cheat and said he was going to cheat, too.  I am sure locking the thread will stop him.

Anyway, don't mind me, I am just pished. I'll get over it soon (AHII).
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: T1loady on December 23, 2003, 10:40:39 AM
Yea I hear all of you about the losing vox problem, but riddle me this, every now and then when I key my vox buttons; not only do I get a disco but my whole computer restarts.  That sucks more than you know...

SkipNutz
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: DAVENRINO on December 23, 2003, 12:25:00 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
I'm running a Linksys router with all the required ports open.  Norton is disabled when i enter the game and that's all that's running.


Then there are those like me who use ob Nforce Soundstorm, run a Linksys Router with no ports open, leave Sygate firewall running in AH, and NEVER lose vox.  Strange that when I set up my Linksys WRT54G, I enabled port fwding for 2000-5000 but I tried AH with it disabled and it still worked as always with no problems.  I do have to open ports to host Falcon 4.0 or Teamspeak.  I also run my dial-up Guam box with a SB Live card and Sygate firewall on in AH and NEVER lose vox.  I do disable Norton on both while in AH.  Beats h... outta me why same config works for some and not others.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: mars01 on December 23, 2003, 01:18:37 PM
Hey Skuzzy,

Every time I lose vox I have to log out and log back in.  For some reasone this fixes the vox problem.  I am assuming it is the reinitialization that fixes the problem.  Is it a possible to add a button to the voice menue in set up, so that vox can be reinitialized without logging out?
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: dedalos on December 23, 2003, 01:44:57 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
Hey Skuzzy,

Every time I lose vox I have to log out and log back in.  For some reasone this fixes the vox problem.  I am assuming it is the reinitialization that fixes the problem.  Is it a possible to add a button to the voice menue in set up, so that vox can be reinitialized without logging out?


ALT TAB will fix it half way for me.  i can hear others but they cannot hear me.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: LePaul on December 23, 2003, 02:06:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mars01
Hey Skuzzy,

Every time I lose vox I have to log out and log back in.  For some reasone this fixes the vox problem.  I am assuming it is the reinitialization that fixes the problem.  Is it a possible to add a button to the voice menue in set up, so that vox can be reinitialized without logging out?


Exactly the same here.

Relogging in cures it.

For the longest time I thought maybe I was dropping packets or something...but net status stays nice and flat (its been really a great connect the past few months, under 60ms most of the time).

If there's anything else I can provide you, HiTech or anyone else with..let me know.

Let's cure this  :aok
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: 214thCavalier on December 23, 2003, 02:10:50 PM
Alt tab cures it completely for me with onboard ac97.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: mars01 on December 23, 2003, 02:56:04 PM
Yeah I have an ASUS P4S533E board with the on board audio.  Alt tab does not seem to do the trick, I have to quit then log back on.
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Roscoroo on December 23, 2003, 04:18:00 PM
Now you ready for this one ...

I have a duplicate pc from my gammer ..

Ecs k7s5a MB
1.4 amd apple bred  oced to 1.6
256 ddr
win 98se
GF2 mx 400 64mb
ac97 sound

This machine is on the same network as my gammer and it still has the cant transmit voice problem ... it receives just fine .

The mystery continues ..
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Heater on December 24, 2003, 05:57:09 AM
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
Now you ready for this one ...

I have a duplicate pc from my gammer ..

Ecs k7s5a MB
1.4 amd apple bred  oced to 1.6
256 ddr
win 98se
GF2 mx 400 64mb
ac97 sound

This machine is on the same network as my gammer and it still has the cant transmit voice problem ... it receives just fine .

The mystery continues ..


Roscoroo, are you using any type of NAT? if so then this may be why, most low-end home office routers will not allow you to map the same ports to more than one IP address. this applies to both inbound and outbound traffic. this may be why one works and one does not

Cheers
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Flit on December 27, 2003, 10:05:16 PM
Maybe the Vox packets have a lower priority then any thing else ?
(just guessin) so that 's the first thing to go when the "traffic" on the "web" get's heavy ?
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Roscoroo on December 27, 2003, 11:10:19 PM
no Nat router.. same setup as last year but with a pc configed to run as a gateway ..  vc works on two outta three pc's behind it ... its just that one now that doesnt work .. its an iffi mainboard toss together thingy ... the only new part in the whole thing is the cpu

it just might not be configed quite right yet .

I'm gonna hammer on it when my Fluke (Skuzzy Jr type ) buddy gets over here next week .
Title: Skuzzy, can you answer a few VOX questions
Post by: Sparks on December 28, 2003, 10:16:38 AM
I am one of the people in 418th that used to lose vox regularly.  I was playing at an internet games place so I have no idea on the spec of the machine but what I can add is how I dealt with it and what I noticed repeatedly.

I would lose vox randomly but always when I went to the runway from the tower.  I got fed up relogging and so I would just leave it out.  I found that if I just carried on it would reset itself back working usually when I went to the runway to start a new flight in a new type of plane ,  i.e. vox would be out - crash or get shot down - go to tower, go to hangar pick plane , go to tower - go to runway - vox working.  

I also found certain planes particularly bad for this - e.g. Goons and M3's and M16's (goons particularly so)

I don't know if it is possible for plane type loaded to affect vox but thats the way it seemed to me.  The last 3-4 months a never relogged and it always fixed itself eventually on a plne change.

Sparks