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Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Halo on December 24, 2003, 09:51:04 AM
The kid sniper, Malvo, was sentenced to life.  If you were sitting on that jury, would you have voted for life or death?
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Curval on December 24, 2003, 09:54:22 AM
Life....death is too easy for him.

He needs to sit and stew for 50 or 60 years and reflect on what he has done.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Dune on December 24, 2003, 09:58:18 AM
I think it's a good verdict.  True he did things worthy of death, but it's impossible to determine how much he was actually influenced by Mohammad.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Mickey1992 on December 24, 2003, 10:00:23 AM
I agree.  Mohammad gets the needle, that's the important thing.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: midnight Target on December 24, 2003, 10:04:54 AM
Life.

Some legal experts were concerned that Malvo might even get off. Mohammed was convicted as the "brainwasher" of the kid and the mastermind behind the whole deal. It was possible that this verdict could have given Malvo an out through an insanity  plea.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: AWMac on December 24, 2003, 10:26:35 AM
Let Malvo watch the Justice system "off" his make believe Daddy....then let him live a "Lifetime" sentence with a well hung stud as a cellmate.  :aok
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: ra on December 24, 2003, 10:38:43 AM
If he doesn't deserve a death sentence, who does?  They may as well eliminate the death sentence from the books in VA.  This guy enjoyed what he was doing, and he'd probably still be doing it if he hadn't been caught.

Let's hope he doesn't use his prison cell as a soapbox to preach all sorts of radical tripe, and become a cult figure.  He could end up becoming an honorary citizen of Paris.

ra
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Toad on December 24, 2003, 10:47:00 AM
Death.

This is one that "needed killing"; I don't buy the BS that a 17-year-old "didn't know what he was doing". The tapes of him calling in during the shootings and his statements/writings after negate that argument IMO. He's no asset to the human race and the gene pool is safely and widely diversified. Time to X out this little cockroach and give him another chance on the wheel of life. Time to use him as an example for the other low-life cockroaches.

It's not over yet, apparently. There's other states with the death penalty that want a shot at him. If Louisiana gives him death and Virginia give him life which one gets him?
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: midnight Target on December 24, 2003, 10:50:26 AM
But if he "knew what he was doing" then Mohammed wasn't guilty of murder, maybe just as an accessory. Like I said... the prosecuters almost hung themselves with the Mohammed evidence.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: ra on December 24, 2003, 10:53:37 AM
You don't have to kill anyone to be guilty of murder.  Who did Charles Manson kill?
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Toad on December 24, 2003, 10:54:08 AM
It's over, it's done.

On to Louisiana!
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: miko2d on December 24, 2003, 12:58:22 PM
Curval: He needs to sit and stew for 50 or 60 years and reflect on what he has done.

 But would he? He will probably get an education and get out in 20-30 years.

 A human is basically a sum of his experience as far as legality is concerned. (Of course the character is important as well but we do not jail people with bad character untill they expereince commiting a crime. Plus, thecharacter changes as well.)
 Young Malvo had what, 10-13 years of concious experience?

 In 30 years that would be topped with 30 years of "righteous" experience. There will always be some liberal politician or judge who would allow him to get out - a stong, healthy man of 47.

 miko
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Sixpence on December 24, 2003, 01:38:44 PM
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Originally posted by miko2d
Curval: He needs to sit and stew for 50 or 60 years and reflect on what he has done.

 But would he? He will probably get an education and get out in 20-30 years.miko


I believe he is in w/o parole. I believe there is a sentence that makes this automatic, something like life and a day. I do not believe Manson will ever be released, nor will this one. If you are on the jury, you wonder if death would be the more humane way to go.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Hawklore on December 24, 2003, 01:43:09 PM
I agree, Life is a better choice then death.


Because he suffers none..

He would be able to suffer and go over his thoughts in prison for the rest of his life..

And who knows how much Mohammed influenced him as some of you have said.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: SOB on December 24, 2003, 02:04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I believe he is in w/o parole. I believe there is a sentence that makes this automatic, something like life and a day. I do not believe Manson will ever be released, nor will this one. If you are on the jury, you wonder if death would be the more humane way to go.

Heh, I think the reason Manson will never be released is Charlie himself.  Can you imagine him sitting in front of a parole board?  "When I get out I'll kill all of you pigs and your children and everyone blah ahhhh!!!"

Malvo should be put down.  He's proven his worthlessness & I don't think he's worthy of our tax dollars.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: miko2d on December 24, 2003, 03:14:37 PM
Sixpence: I believe he is in w/o parole. I believe there is a sentence that makes this automatic, something like life and a day.

 A law can change, a governor or a president could pardon him under pressure from some liberal group, etc.

 Come to think of it, a person who will be occupying Lee Malvo's body in 30 years will not be Lee Malvo, with very vague recollections of what he's done and probably not being able to imagine how ge did it - so much a character could change.

 I would understand if the purpose of the punishment was the original one - making restutution to the victims. If he was made to work in order to compensate them as much as possible - there would be rationale for keeping him alive.
 But it's not the case.

 miko
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Eagler on December 24, 2003, 03:22:54 PM
the victim families were extremely disappointed by the jury's verdict as was I

there isn't any rehabilitation for this one (would you hire him? can you say postal?), why waste the tax payers dollars

and the needle is way too easy for scum like these two - time to fire up ole sparky and let them feel the grim reaper coming for thier souls...
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Maverick on December 24, 2003, 05:06:56 PM
Eagler,

I think sending him to Utah and let him stand (or sit) in front of a firing squad. It's more apropriate IMO.
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: Delirium on December 24, 2003, 05:07:21 PM
I disagree with jailing him for life... granted, it may allow him to stew for 30+years but its expensive and makes a mockery of the death penalty. Finish it now, bring some closure to the many families that were affected by these two and execute them both.

Then again, where else but in America can you shoot the President of a country and push the court for unsupervised visits with your parents?
Title: Malvo Verdict
Post by: AKWeav on December 25, 2003, 10:18:18 AM
He's still got two trials to go. One of them could nail him.