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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lazs2 on December 24, 2003, 10:39:21 AM
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ok... lets have the factories but not country specific... They will belong to the arms dealer and.... if the peee 51 factory is bombed then NO country gets peee 51's.... same for la 7 or spit or nik or p40...
If you have country specific factories then the country with the most numbers will simply have the most (probly even more) numbers and..... all the dweeb planes. What a fun arena that would be eh?
soooo... lets have all the planes supplied by the arms dealer. he has all the factories and if he loses pee 51 factory nobody gets to fly one for oh.... say 2 hrs... but make them difficult to kill... it would take one guy suicideing into the factory with a 1,000 lb bomb to kill one.
I might even carry a bomb now and then and auger into a factory.... I mean... shouldn't I be able to get in on the fun of "dive bombing" too? I could then have an affect on dozens of players for my effort and skill.
lazs
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I thought of this idea when I started playing this game, and I am behind it 100%:aok
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I say we put all these new factories permanently in......... ROOKLAND!
Then the Rook High Command can meet on their "fourum" and plan the defense of these vital assests. Only these hallowed warriors can be trusted to defend such an important strategic feature.
All they'll have to do is hover over the really important factories at 25K all night long and wait for Laz to come screaming down in his fully-laden Jug, headed for the Spit factory.
Should make for interesting and exciting times on line for them.
BTW, Laz, the factories are going to be huge, with the Plane Production Code painted on the roof in color code, right? And ALL variants will come from one factory? And it should only take one good Jabo load to knock it out for 10 hours or so. Resupply should only take 100 goon missions?
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Very good, lazs.
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That would be Awsome.
I can see it now. All planes knocked out for 10 hours, nothing to fly and everyone sitting in the tower. :rofl
Then all the non agression, no fight girls would be happy.:D
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We are getting some good input here.
thanks for all the suggestions. Maybe 10 hrs is better or 100 resupply goons.... unless the goon factory is hit of course.
I look forward to hiding from the defenders of the factories and diving into the roofs of said toolsheds..
I certainly hope no one accuses me of wanting to have too much effect on the game. I just want my "strat" to have meaning. Not all of us are skilled in air to air and we should be able to impact dozens of players.... having no skill should not be an impediment since we all pay the same monthly fee. Fair is fair after all.
lazs
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wow...you want to have impact on dozens of players...well them asking for it not to impact them is like asking for there neighbours house to burn down but not have any affect on them...
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As long as theres not a factory for 38's. :D
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How about factories based on the company name like Grumman, Focke-Wulf and Messerchimds? Those factories should able to build and deliver 50 planes of all types to base in 30 mins. If Messerschmitt factory (just an example) is bombed, then the Messerschmitt company would stop (or reduce the number of 109s being delivered to the frontlines based on how many Messerschmitt factory in a country) delivering all types of 109s to the front lines.
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
How about factories based on the company name like Grumman, Focke-Wulf and Messerchimds? Those factories should able to build and deliver 50 planes of all types to base in 30 mins. If Messerschmitt factory (just an example) is bombed, then the Messerschmitt company would stop delivering all types of 109s to the front lines.
my reply is worded in your sig.
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Maybe I'm on the wrong team, Toad. I don't care about all that strat stuff... could care less what people fly. I get chastised on ch 2 frequently because I just don't care about resets, perk points, and winning the war. well OK, I only get chastised when I poke fun at all the CH2 whiners who complain because we lost the war to one team or other and we had numbers, or more fields, or prettier sheep...... blah blah blah.
Rooks really do seem to have a lot of people who care about that stuff.
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Don't care about RESETS?????????
Say it ain't so!!!!!!!!!
C'mon over Steve; the waters fine with the Knights. Very little of that "Join the Mission-Win The War-Receive the free Hawaiian Vacation!!" stuff in Knightland.
Oh, we've got some and they're just as pretentious and stuffed-shirt as the fun-killers in the other lands.
But there's a lot of pure fly for the sheer fun of combat guys. Makes it liveable.
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Originally posted by Toad
Oh, we've got some and they're just as pretentious and stuffed-shirt as the fun-killers in the other lands.
LOL, the whining you tards put out is getting more pathetic by the minute. Here's an idea...if you're furballing and somebody comes along and bombs the CV/Field/Whatever and makes it difficult for you to furball, then move on to the next furball. Or continue to gripe about it on ch1 and log to whine yet again on the BB about how those other guys are playing the game wrong and ruining your fun.
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Cool ... a whine about whining... WTG SOB
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LOL
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I like fighting p51s, it's the nonstop LA-7 hordes that need to be dealt with.
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LOL, the whining you tards put out is getting more pathetic by the minute. Here's an idea...if you're furballing and somebody comes along and bombs the CV/Field/Whatever and makes it difficult for you to furball, then move on to the next furball. Or continue to gripe about it on ch1 and log to whine yet again on the BB about how those other guys are playing the game wrong and ruining your fun.
Good one SOB.
I say let all these cry baby generals who decide what is fun and pertenant to the goals of this game saddle up and have a nice refreshing glass of "will you PLEASE finally shut the hell up." Course thats just my opinion.I could be wrong.
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How bout this... each country has 3-5 airplane factories, each time a factory gets hit the corresponding planes will be effected by a 5 point raise in perk price.
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Chute!
curly
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Why haven't you people learned to just ignore posts by this whiner? There's nothing new here. Move along!
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Originally posted by JB73
my reply is worded in your sig.
JB73, everytime my wife come in and sees your Avatar, I 'get lucky' and have to log off for a couple of hours.
I kind of like that keep up the good work! :)
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Ignore Lazs?! Hell, this board wouldn't half as good if he wasn't *****ing about something.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Why haven't you people learned to just ignore posts by this whiner? There's nothing new here. Move along!
At least he's in your face not sneaking around your back.
What I like about lazs--what ya read is what he is.
lazs
Merry Christmas
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Originally posted by Steve
Cool ... a whine about whining... WTG SOB
well scrw that .. im whining about the whine of the whine
sob whines like a puss
lazs does much better.
what award is that Steve? lol
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I have not yet begun to whine! ~ John Paul Toad
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merry xmas to you too sax. to all of you. Hope you strat guys haven't hidden your presents wo well you can't find em.
metavoss... i find it hard to believe you are married... I am constantly amazed at the gulability and pity of women. This is simply more proof that women should not be allowed to vote.
I don't get it... I suggest a "strat" feature that would increase the strat of the game and give more people an opportunity to effect dozens of players or more at a time and best of all.... would take no more skill than suicideing into a big toolshed and yet.... the very people I thought would love it don't like it...
perhaps it is because they like the "strat" of being on the side with the numbers and my "strat would make that moot? Or maybe they are the types who only fly the planes with the biggest advantage and therefore feel threatened that they will have to compete on a somewhat even basis?
or... maybe it's something else... who knows... they certainly won't come clean.
but i like pee 51's.. i just don't like la7's... LOL
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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Originally posted by lazs2
metavoss... i find it hard to believe you are married... I am constantly amazed at the gulability and pity of women. This is simply more proof that women should not be allowed to vote.
Your mental abnormalities again. None of your business at any rate. I will say that my wife is prettier, more intelligent, and more of a lady than any woman you have ever known. I do agree on the voting issue, though. However, I extend the resolution to mental incompetents such as yourself.
I don't get it...
At least we agree on that. I doubt you ever will, or do.
perhaps it is because they like the "strat" of being on the side with the numbers
Only rooks would know about numbers these days. Numbers haven't bothered me in some time. Guys with alt can't use it, countries with numbers only pork, people that don't engage don't have an affect, and people that whine on ch1 can't be heard when it's squelched.
Why don't you come clean? How much did you pay the 13th to blow sunshine up your six?:D
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Let me see if I understand this idea.
You want me to go bomb a factory and the effect I have is equal to my own country as well as my enemies?
What's the point? The whole idea of a strike is so it results in a disadvantage for your enemy.
Lazs, seriously, come clean. You don't play strat, and that's fine, but is there really a need to come up with a joke of an idea, put it out and then when people slam it, stand back and go "Who me? I'm just trying to help!"
Or are you just trolling the boards for another argument?
Whatever your motives, I'll bite and simply say I do not care for this idea.
Happy Holidays to all.
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Geez ...
The only thing this sim needs is a good ten cent cigar.
and bordellos .... it could use those .....
....nekkid polynesian wimmins .... on a constant Pac terrain ......
... ok .... a few more Jap planes to shoot at ......
.... better booze .....
.... and the games at the casinos are rigged, dammit ......
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muck... no.. I am not asking you to bomb anything unless you feel this or that plane should not be in the game.
certainly, many people... even those such as beetle complain that there are too many of this or that plane in the game. If you only illiminmated this or that plane for one country you would still see that plane... 1/3 would not have it but the other two thirds would use that advantage and take up the slack.
many of us like early war planes but find the field spacing and abundance of late war planes and field porking strat are ruining the game... the elimination of whole groups of planes would be great for us... many would find it a good way to increase their fun.... the spoilers would get to ruin a lot of peoples online time... just as they pork fuel now.
but... why would the strat guys or pee 51 guys or gee 10 or dora guys object? if they didn't want their plane factory destroyed then all they would need to do was to defend it... simply spend their online time circling at hig alt waiting... just in case... lazs was to come diving in from 30k in a corsair and auger into their pee 51 toolshed.
oh... metavoss... did she invest in your sim? maybe she nursed you back to health from the brain tumor or... scorpion bite? if so.... she fits both categories of people you don't want to vote.
lazs
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Although I like the idea of aircraft factories, as you probably know, I would prefer the factories be completely random in what they produce, so that a successful raid may take out anything from a Panzer to a Pony to a Lanc.
Having 1 factory build the same plane for all 3 countries would be counterproductive in my opinion.
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Yeah.. on every map maybe 5 factories in each country, grouped close together. Then you take the five aircraft that had the most kills in the last tour and each factory makes one of those. All variants of that aircraft are built in that one factory. So if a P-51D comes in first in kills, the factory makes P-51D's and B's. And you paint what the factory is making in huge letters on the roof, visible from 25k with the naked eye. Then those that care can bomb the factory making the plane they hate the most and it stays down for 10 or 15 hours.
Should provide hours of fun for those who care about what others fly.
And the DEFENSE! Think of all the guys orbiting their precious ________ factory, trying to preserve it.
This idea has potential, I guess.
But I still think Laz is just trolling, like I am.
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It would be better to have Hi-Tech factories. If you loose one - you loose 1944-1945 plane set. If your country lost all Hi-Tech Factories the 1940 planeset is only available for you.
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Originally posted by -aper-
It would be better to have Hi-Tech factories. If you loose one - you loose 1944-1945 plane set. If your country lost all Hi-Tech Factories the 1940 planeset is only available for you.
Maybe better to perk planes - with dependency of Plane Factories.
for example: 50% of factory destryed:
this one become perked P-51D, 109G10, 190D, Typhoon, P-38, La7
75% destroyed
P-47s, F4Us, 190s etc
90% destroed perked N1Ks Spit9s, etc..
100%
only Spit 1, Hurri 1, 109E non perked
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Ok.. make it the plane that was used the most. If the 51 got the most sorties then it would go first... then the plane that flew the next most and so on. that way one guy could affect at least a dozen players at a time for his "effort".
lazs
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Why even bother with factories? Come on guys, get with the times!
What AH REALLY needs is centralized fuel. Lets say 25 fuel tanks all in a small radius in a specially marked area (perhaps next to A1 on every map so it's easier to find). We can then do away with having individual fuel tanks at every airfield. When someone bombs down these fuel tanks at this "big fuel depot", it reduces the fuel to 25% at EVERY airfield! WOW! That way, the fuel attackers can level EVERY airfield's fuel supply at the same time! Think about it--with only one "missun", they could affect the game for EVERYONE in the arena! It'd be "Strat heaven"!
J_A_B
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Heh ... hell JAB ... don't stop there. ;)
Have a "Sam's mega discount bomb depot" in the middle of each chess piece country that disables all ord for that country for an hour but has to be entirely taken out by 100,000 pounds of bombs.
Have Komets available at the mega discount bomb depot.
The country that bombs and bombs well together (first) gets to keep bombing together.
:D :aok
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how about a wal-mart per country. when wal-mart is bombed quality g-suits will be disabled enabling a faster blackout -redout rate
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jab... good idea. It would go well with my idea.
lazs
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Forget 'aircraft factories'.
Give every player a personal hangar. The hangar comes stocked with x of each plane(x depends on popularity and the planes ma abilities, and you can never have more than x planes) that takes y minutes(of flight time) to resupply each one. And a perk cost of z. The less common(say over 40eny) planes would have no limitation.
Whenever you lose a plane, you lose one from your hangar. When you have none of that type in your hangar, you need to either pay the perk cost, or switch planes. The time it takes to resupply aircraft is divided by the current state of a countries strat. (So with strat half dead, each plane takes twice as long to resupply)
Using a system like this opens up the opportunity for semi-perk planes. Allowing players to fly them for free, but only a limited number of times in a certain time period. (THEN they have to pay the perks)
Perk planes could be given very long timers, and still allow newer pilots the opportunity to fly them for free once in a while, without causing too many to be around.
Then again, it's a relativly complex system, which probably is way too much work to be worth even a full design of. But what the hell, I'm bored.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I certainly hope no one accuses me of wanting to have too much effect on the game. I just want my "strat" to have meaning. Not all of us are skilled in air to air and we should be able to impact dozens of players.... having no skill should not be an impediment since we all pay the same monthly fee. Fair is fair after all.
lazs
:rofl :rofl :rofl
You're right, Lazs. :) I'll never support the aircraft factory idea in AH. This community isn't ready for it, yet.
TBolt