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Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: Replicant on December 27, 2003, 02:27:48 PM
Hope you like.... :)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_44_1072555943.jpg)
Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: brady on December 27, 2003, 02:33:22 PM
I like the radation warning sticker...When I was touring the Paul E Garber facality we were not allowed to get to close to some of the planes in one of the buildings because their was a rack which had several shelves with old Aircraft insturments on it, they said their was a radalogical hazard and we could not get any closer!, then the tour guid said it was kinda silly he had spent 20 some years setting in fron of them and was still ticking:)
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Post by: frank3 on December 27, 2003, 03:18:02 PM
Lol! Well I stick to the AH cockpit! :lol

Nice pic btw!
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Post by: vorticon on December 27, 2003, 06:42:04 PM
nice...


what was the use of that oxygen gauge?
Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: Starbird on December 28, 2003, 01:02:51 PM
I'm guessing the oxygen gauge shows the oxygen flow to the pilots mask? For high altitude flights.

I'm not sure how the oxygen systems worked. Did they used compressed air cylinders like modern systems or something else? I can find info on the masks, but not the aircraft systems.
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Post by: Vladd on December 28, 2003, 07:20:28 PM
Er Nexx, has someone been playing around with the exhibits???

Vladd
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Post by: MiloMorai on December 28, 2003, 07:24:27 PM
brady, they used to put some radioactive paint on watch dials and hands to make them glow(nice word, eh;)). Could this be the same stuff on a/c instruments?
Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: Replicant on December 29, 2003, 05:07:10 AM
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Originally posted by Vladd
Er Nexx, has someone been playing around with the exhibits???

Vladd


Hey Joe, it's the Typhoon cockpit from Duxford! :)
Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: Replicant on December 29, 2003, 05:10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Replicant
Hey Joe, it's the Typhoon cockpit from Duxford! :)


Here's another piccy from a few years back
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_44_1072696171.jpg)
Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: Starbird on December 29, 2003, 07:36:51 AM
Radium paint was used on instruments/watches and such up to the 60's from what I've read.

For the most part, it seems to be mostly harmless unless you breath/swallow the paint flakes.  Also you dont want to collect too many of the instruments in one place.

http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q133.html
Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: Vladd on December 29, 2003, 09:09:08 AM
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Originally posted by Replicant
Hey Joe, it's the Typhoon cockpit from Duxford! :)



Figured :D
Title: Hawker Typhoon cockpit
Post by: scJazz on December 29, 2003, 10:02:58 AM
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Originally posted by Starbird
Radium paint was used on instruments/watches and such up to the 60's from what I've read.

For the most part, it seems to be mostly harmless unless you breath/swallow the paint flakes.  Also you dont want to collect too many of the instruments in one place.

http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q133.html


Tritium is still used on watches, instruments, gunsights, etc for glow in the dark applications. Yes it is radioactive. No it can't hurt you. You'll get more RADs in 1 hr outside on sunny day than you will wearing a watch with Tritium coated hands for the rest of your life.
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Post by: Puck on December 29, 2003, 10:26:04 AM
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Originally posted by scJazz
Tritium is still used on watches, instruments, gunsights, etc for glow in the dark applications. Yes it is radioactive. No it can't hurt you. You'll get more RADs in 1 hr outside on sunny day than you will wearing a watch with Tritium coated hands for the rest of your life.


Well, other than the (mostly) women who did the painting with radium paint tended to put the brushes in their mouths to keep the bristles pointed.  Quite a few unintended consequences from that, but they were, of course, told the radium paint was "harmless" and they, of course, believed.

Trivia question:  What's the decay path for tritium?
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Post by: Shiva on December 29, 2003, 08:36:07 PM
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Originally posted by Starbird
Radium paint was used on instruments/watches and such up to the 60's from what I've read.

For the most part, it seems to be mostly harmless unless you breath/swallow the paint flakes.  Also you dont want to collect too many of the instruments in one place.


The deaths from radium paint are entirely among the workers -- almost exclusively women -- who painted the dials and other instruments. The 'paint' that was used was a mixture of glue, water, and radium powder. In order to paint the fine details on a dial, the workers would periodically have to put a point back on their brushes, which they would do by putting the brush between their lips. The women would paint their nails and teeth to surprise their boyfriends. Over time, the buildup of radium and radiation damage caused a number of health problems. But the casual treatment of the radioactive material was not idiosyncratic to these workers; at the time, it was widely believed that radiation was either harmless or beneficial (since it gave off energy, radioactive material must be revitalizing) -- an American entrepreneur created an elixir from radon and sold it under the name 'Revigorator'; another created a radium-based elixir and sold it as a cure for sexual dysfunction.