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Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: LePaul on December 29, 2003, 06:18:17 PM
I can not make the throttle work with my X45 correctly...it never makes it to full power and then doesnt "hold"...

Any cool sites for add ons?
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Otto on December 29, 2003, 07:40:13 PM
I'd start by asking this in the Hardware formum but while you're here goto  Settings/Joystick/Advanced and make sure the Sensitivity is high and the Null Zone is low for the throttle. Then see what happens.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: udet on December 29, 2003, 09:24:36 PM
**** 2004, it's just like 2002 only a bit prettier and with more clouds. Not worth the money and the upgrades :p
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Fishu on December 29, 2003, 11:30:16 PM
I have X45 & Win XP SP1, works fine with FS9.

Have you checked the joystick sensitivity settings, null zone & sensitivity?
Sensitivity should be at maximum (towards right) and null zone at minimum (towards left)

You should also check you have no conflicting inputs for throttle.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: mora on December 30, 2003, 07:57:05 AM
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Originally posted by udet
**** 2004, it's just like 2002 only a bit prettier and with more clouds. Not worth the money and the upgrades :p


Actually the flight model is improved aswell and the new 3d cockpits are very nice. In 2004 the planes will even spin! They didn't fix the rudder modelling though, it has been the same from the very beginning.

X-plane flight model and smoothness combined with FS2004 would be really something.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: LePaul on December 30, 2003, 08:46:16 AM
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Originally posted by Fishu
I have X45 & Win XP SP1, works fine with FS9.

Have you checked the joystick sensitivity settings, null zone & sensitivity?
Sensitivity should be at maximum (towards right) and null zone at minimum (towards left)

You should also check you have no conflicting inputs for throttle.


Thanks I'll check that out tonight...that must be it, not seeing the full input for full throttle.

No conflicts, only usb creature i have is that x45
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Bonden on December 31, 2003, 09:06:41 AM
For addons, try simviation.com, AVSIM.com, flightsim.com.  There are some really nice addons out there for free. Luck:)
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: LePaul on December 31, 2003, 09:13:18 AM
Well Im stumped, that didnt fix the x45 throttle..still no full throttle.

I did a quick 1 hour hop in the Lear, the Garmin interface is pretty neat.  The clouds and dynamic weather are a lot of fun
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Fishu on December 31, 2003, 09:35:15 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Well Im stumped, that didnt fix the x45 throttle..still no full throttle.

I did a quick 1 hour hop in the Lear, the Garmin interface is pretty neat.  The clouds and dynamic weather are a lot of fun


Not much more ideas then..

The dynamic weather is quite buggy though, albeit works juuuust fine in US.

In europe it doesnt understand '9999' correctly if there are bit clouds around and it doesnt understand drag coefficiency at all and in fact takes it as visibility!

EFHK 311420Z 24004KT 9999 -SN OVC021 M02/M04 Q1022 1539//64 5419//69 TEMPO BKN014

-- this would mean there would be like 1.5km visibility, it doesnt understand for 1539//64 or 5419//69 type of readings in METAR.

I released a fix for the '9999' visibility bug, but how to fix drag, thats far more complicated, especially when MS by nature isn't too helpful.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Creamo on December 31, 2003, 09:49:50 AM
Got my Dad a computer and joystick with FS2004 for Xmas and have been playing it all vacation. Its really good. Can't say i understand the obs/vor instrument lesson, but that and the fogged in ILS lesson are quite fun. I turned up the settings as suggested and made it 'realistic' per the game settings- it's actually not too bad. Now i just need a Piper Tomahawk w/ realistic panel.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: LePaul on December 31, 2003, 10:24:12 AM
Yea, for ILS, a slower plane is best to learn with.  I'm still lost in planes like the 747.  Aces High spoiled me and my big buffs.  I learned a neat lesson...MAKE SURE FLAPS ARE DOWN...but wow, that bird can climb!

I've been enjoying the Mooney.  My home airport (KBGR) was scanned pretty nicely...try it.  11,400 ft runway!  Head S/SE to Bar Harbor/Trenton in Fall settings.  Its pretty impressive.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Halo on December 31, 2003, 11:55:37 AM
I like FS2004, and have been praising that wonderful external view as the easiest and most intuitive ever.  Fun just buzzing around and looking at stuff, such as circling Oahu just before sundown.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Fishu on December 31, 2003, 12:02:31 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Yea, for ILS, a slower plane is best to learn with.  I'm still lost in planes like the 747.  Aces High spoiled me and my big buffs.  I learned a neat lesson...MAKE SURE FLAPS ARE DOWN...but wow, that bird can climb!

I've been enjoying the Mooney.  My home airport (KBGR) was scanned pretty nicely...try it.  11,400 ft runway!  Head S/SE to Bar Harbor/Trenton in Fall settings.  Its pretty impressive.


I began with IFR first, then i were at lost with VFR.. lol ;)
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: United on December 31, 2003, 03:54:54 PM
I fly in FS2000.  The MOST fun plane I have seen in it is the Pitts S2S.  Great for aerobatics and tricks.

I learned the ILS in the standard Cessna.  Its easy to do in that plane.

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I've been enjoying the Mooney.


If you like the Mooney I would recommend, for an old alternative, the Piper Supercub.  If you put that one in a virtual cockpit view, its great for sightseeing and other sorts of things like that.  It's slow and can fly low which makes it great for exploring the terrains.  Wonderful the way they can do such things.


A beautiful place to fly in the mountains is at an airport just about an hour away from my house, great place I love to visit, is at Ingalls in FS2000, or Ingalls Field as in real life. (Airport code HSP).  Make it at sunset in the winter and it is absolutely gorgeous.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Mark Luper on January 01, 2004, 04:54:58 AM
I have owned all the MSFlightsims since version 4.0 and this one (FS2004) is the best one so far in my opinion. I really like the older prewar and war time aircraft the best though I do indulge myself with some of the newer planes. Go to Avsim.com and do a search for Bill Lyons. He has some great freebies that used to be payware in there. A Waco biplane, some cubs, Ryan STA, Tiger Moth and a Swift that are really a lot of fun to fly.

I reccomend flying these in Virtual Cockpit mode only. He really does a good job on these and his 2D cockpits leave a little to be desired since his intent is for the planes to be flown in VC mode.

If you don't mind spending a little money for some payware aircraft there are some really good ones out there from  Dreamfleet (http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/) and from FSD International (http://www.fsd-international.com/) . I have purchased the Archer, the Cardinal, and the Cessna 310 from Dreamfleet and the Chyenne and the Seneca from FSD International. I have been really pleased with these purchases.

Of course your mileage may vary ;)
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: muckmaw on January 01, 2004, 08:37:27 AM
Of course, I'm grounded until my Cougar comes back from the shop some I'm not flying but I was really enjoying FS2004.

I loved the way ATC was fixed. Its nice and accurate now.

I've dowloaded some fun stuff like the C-119 and the Grumman Trader.

I also just bought MyTraffic which rocks. All real world traffic flying where and when it should...totally cool!

What I really need now and I don't mind paying for it:

Some cool adventures where you can fly rescue or ANYTHING with a purpose and maybe be rated on performance.

Second, an add on that puts ground crews and trucks etc at the airport...preferably moving...(Not a program that lets me add stuff...one where it's already added...I'm lazy!)

Thanks for any advice.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Bonden on January 01, 2004, 11:42:35 AM
Muck:  you could get involved with one of the virtual airlines and they will keep you busy and purposful. The Margarita Air Club may be worth a look for you; it's pretty relaxed and new missions for those interested are popping up frequently. http://www.margaritaair.com

hth, Bonden
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: muckmaw on January 01, 2004, 01:17:23 PM
Cooool.

Just signed up with TMAC and Vatsim.

If I can't fly for a while, I'll learn to become a virtual ATC!!

http://www.vatsim.net
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: LePaul on January 01, 2004, 01:25:09 PM
Fightsim.com is constantly busy when i try to register...all nodes busy.  So much for trying the Lockheed F16  :(

I joined VATSIM...no idea how to make it work with 2004...still reading tho
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Otto on January 01, 2004, 01:54:36 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Fightsim.com is constantly busy when i try to register


LePaul, from the Flightsim site..


CHECK YOUR CACHE SETTINGS
For many people this is the key to using Web sites like FlightSim.Com where the pages change dynamically. Exactly how you adjust your cache settings depends on the browser you are using, and since there are so many versions we cannot give exact instructions. You'll simply have to learn how to use the software you are running. In general, browsers use one of the following ways of controlling caching. There may be a check box to turn it off or on. Or they may be a cache size that you can control; setting the cache size to 0 (zero) is the same as turning it off. Or there may be check boxes which allow you to select when caching is used; set these to load the document every time.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: LePaul on January 01, 2004, 01:59:10 PM
Thanks for the note

Still no luck with the throttle issue

This game may get uninstalled and returned.  No help pages, nada...throttle works in any other flightsim ive had.  

I was looking forward to flying this but having to stomp on F4 the entire time is getting old.  I'm still searching for solutions...but the fun factor is fleeting quickly
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Bonden on January 01, 2004, 08:28:57 PM
I had some problems early on with the stick settings. FS9 had programmed some of the axis to the wrong sticks and made all sortsa funny things happen - be sure you check those carefully.

Luck
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: AKWeav on January 01, 2004, 08:58:45 PM
Bondon, thanx for that link. Think I might give that a shot.:)

Oh yea, LePaul, did you calibrate your stick in windows? I use a X-45 and CH Pro pedals.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: LePaul on January 01, 2004, 10:18:48 PM
whats odd, under control settings, the column for joystick has nothing entered in it...and no way to add it (asides button presses) to map them.  :confused:

[EDIT]  yes....calibrated in Windows (Windows 2k Pro here)
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Bonden on January 02, 2004, 06:11:03 AM
LePaul - under Controls-Assignments, Buttons-Keys - does it recognize your joystick?
Title: Re: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Dingbat on January 02, 2004, 10:35:44 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
I can not make the throttle work with my X45 correctly...it never makes it to full power and then doesnt "hold"...



Sounds like your AXIS are conflicting or you have a spikey throttle...  Try getting Peter Dowson's FPUIC http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html

If you buy it, you'll have access to the axis spiking smoother mod.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Creamo on January 30, 2004, 09:13:59 AM
With a new video card I am really enjoying this sim. The new cards really eat up what was once a graphic pig. The change between being able to max everything out makes a huge difference. Dubuque Iowa was just a sparse field, now its fun realistic flight to Rockford or Chicago, or to my Dad’s hangar at Platteville, Wi where I would do real flights. (That was the initial incentive). Being able to download real time realistic weather is cool too, and a breeze now that broadband is the norm.

Also found out I had a copy of the Jeppesen/Sanderson “Advance Pilot Manual”, which I found at the airport for free (1981 version) and solves a lot of questions. A good bathroom addition indeed. Search for it online. It’s pry dirt cheap.

I’m still miffed at your Saitek X45 problems Lepaul, as it has been solid on my system so, can’t help you there. I do now want the Ch Yoke Usb. I already have the Ch Pro Pedals, hope you do too, as that would be a good addition for the sim regardless if you own a Saitek.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000056SPM.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg)



Anyway, I highly recommend FS9, and here’s a link to the crack if it drives you nuts loading CD’s like it does me. Lotsa good other crap there too like crash effects and even a V1 bomb.


Link (http://www.simviation.com/fs2004misc1.htm)
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Gixer on January 30, 2004, 11:02:37 PM
I'd really like to know where the fun is in flight sims where you just fly from one place to the other, especially in something as unexciting as a small plane. It always seems like watching paint dry to me.

Or am I missing some exciting hidden feature? Surely not IFR and taxing? lol



...-Gixer
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Halo on January 31, 2004, 12:44:46 AM
One of the main things I like is taking up various craft at the many different airfields all around the world.  The unmatched intuitive external view flying provides an excellent idea what the area is like.

For example, take the Bombardier up to about 20k and circle Oahu in Hawaii.  I think that's fascinating.  And the ability to explore the world like that will only get better year after year as computing power increases.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Fishu on January 31, 2004, 12:54:00 AM
From the flight KMIA-TNCM (Miami - Saint Maarten): http://koti.mbnet.fi/fishu/fs/kmiatncm/

(http://koti.mbnet.fi/fishu/fs/kmiatncm/kt22.jpg)
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/fishu/fs/kmiatncm/kt40.jpg)


..and its alot more exciting in the VATSIM network, with actually living ATC and other traffic.
Anyone can fly there as far as they follow the simple rules, however extensive studies are needed to become an ATC yourself.
It's been 4 months and I've only just getting out of the senior student level and ive pretty much gone through it as fast as one possibly could :)
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: Creamo on February 01, 2004, 05:27:15 AM
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Originally posted by Gixer
I'd really like to know where the fun is in flight sims where you just fly from one place to the other, especially in something as unexciting as a small plane. It always seems like watching paint dry to me.

Or am I missing some exciting hidden feature? Surely not IFR and taxing? lol



...-Gixer


Well, simming WWII combat in game form, is pretty much fun and exciting, the paint don't dry before you get 5 kills and die 3 more times. It's hardly realistic, regardless of the flight model though. Some people like simming ‘reality’, meaning it's real, and I can't think of any combat sim software that models the long boring missions where you actually have to navigate. They provide a game based on reality, but sacrifice the real story for fun. And they should.

That said, FS9 is what it is. It's a commercial aviation sim catered to realism, and pure to its genre mind you, as boring as it may be to you.

Certainly people that fly 172's for lotsa money in real life find a thrill in real life flying. Pry not because the sights and experience it provides, that wears off. There is a lot of challenge in the navigation and VOR tracking etc…FS9 is just a means to do what any computer software does. Simulate that. And it does, in spades, with good new video cards I found out for the visuals, and the instrument base is expertly done.

I’m using it as a learning tool. Pilots may have auto throttle gripes, which are easy per computer based manuals to troubleshoot, but it’s nice to see the glass cockpit work in say modern airliners on VOR deviations/Navigation as a whole. To see what they see is cool. Computers can do that now to a certain extent, very well.

Is it Counterstrike? Naw, but I dig it.
Title: Anyone Flying Flight Simulator 2004?
Post by: gunnss on February 01, 2004, 06:03:32 AM
I work at ZAB in Abq NM If I want, I go up stairs to the "DSR" Room and watch the controllers.......

was up there tonight and watched the Big boys immatating pingpong balls through the weather front east pf PHX........

my job.... I fix the stuff the controllers break

Gunns

ESU ZAB ARTCC SWR FAA DOT ect ect ect