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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wrag on December 31, 2003, 02:08:17 AM
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Seems they really wanted it
http://www.sacurrent.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10705756&BRD=2318&PAG=461&dept_id=482778&rfi=6
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By all means....limit the powers of the constitution. For too long it has been abused by liberal thinking pinkos and lately, muslim militant freaks as well.
Dam the rights of free men when lunatic "allah akbar" (God is Great, for those of you in Rio Linde) freaks get the same basic coverage. Screw that.
Just dont ***** with my 2nd amendmant rights or Ill have you digested as a vitaman suppliment.
Peace...love
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If he can do this just like that, what else hes up to?
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Hmmm what else hmmm...
How about this????
http://www.newswithviews.com/Veon/joan5.htm
perhaps that's why the borders of America are now so open to illegals?
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Ping scribbles Wrags' name onto the List, Glancing up at the Dark Muted form overhead he Radios in, " One for Pickup."
Slowly he dissapears back into the shadows from where he came.
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Ah Yeager if I may express a possible correction to your statement.
"Just dont ***** with my 2nd amendmant rights or Ill have you digested as a vitaman suppliment. "
I prefer OUR Second Amendment :)
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Originally posted by Ping
Ping scribbles Wrags' name onto the List, Glancing up at the Dark Muted form overhead he Radios in, " One for Pickup."
Slowly he dissapears back into the shadows from where he came.
Dad blamed Canadians with Elvish swords! LOL
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Oh and this....
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation," the leader of another country once wrote. "We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland." ~~ Adolph Hitler, writing about creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
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Not commenting on the Patriot Act, but I would be really scared if my president had that kind of powers. Then again, sometimes it's good to have a "strong man".
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Does your president have a three figure IQ like theirs doesn't?
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/48257/20029211530-0-Swoop.gif)
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Originally posted by Swoop
Does your president have a three figure IQ like theirs doesn't?
I don't know, but she is very attractive, unlike theirs.
(http://www.presidentti.fi/eng/persons/Image5.jpg)
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Ummm.....Hmmm
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Looks carefully at picture.
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Umm.
Ping backs away from the Keyboard. Fearful of what The fear inspiring SKUZZY might do for the comments he was about to make.
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Waco in your town next.
Maybe this time they will target a hobby store with model rockets or a 4th of July fireworks stand to gas the children and burn them alive.
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Originally posted by Fishu
If he can do this just like that, what else hes up to?
Maybe you misread the article or have no idea what has to happen to get a bill before the President for a signature?
MiniD
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Originally posted by mora
I don't know, but she is very attractive, unlike theirs.
(http://www.presidentti.fi/eng/persons/Image5.jpg)
Surely you jest. That creature has more forehead than Conway Twitty, and a set of jowls that could crack walnuts.
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Looks like the aztec calandar is correct after all....
heh...
DoctorYo
PS get your ducks in row before 2012...
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wow, something else to lose sleep over :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Fishu
If he can do this just like that, what else hes up to?
thinking about invading finland and claiming it as Puerto Rico II
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
Looks like the aztec calandar is correct after all....
heh...
DoctorYo
PS get your ducks in row before 2012...
Thats the Mayan calander isn't it?? Not the end of time.. Just entering into 4th deminsional time??
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We are already in fourth dimensional time.
Height, width, depth, time.
The Fifth Dimension can be visualised also:
(http://afgen.com/fifthmn2.jpg)
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Only one congressman voted against it. Hardly a power grab by the President.
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its a power grab for damn shure and he didnt veto it.
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15541
Americans could have their citizenship revoked, if found to have contributed "material support" to organizations deemed by the government, even retroactively, to be "terrorist." As Hentoff wrote in the Feb. 28 Village Voice: "Until now, in our law, an American could only lose his or her citizenship by declaring a clear intent to abandon it. But – and read this carefully from the new bill – 'the intent to relinquish nationality need not be manifested in words, but can be inferred from conduct.'" (Italics Hentoff's.)
Legal permanent residents (like, say, my French wife), could be deported instantaneously, without a criminal charge or even evidence, if the Attorney General considers them a threat to national security. If they commit minor, non-terrorist offenses, they can still be booted out, without so much as a day in court, because the law would exempt habeas corpus review in some cases. As the American Civil Liberties Union stated in its long brief against the DSEA, "Congress has not exempted any person from habeas corpus – a protection guaranteed by the Constitution – since the Civil War."
The government would be instructed to build a mammoth database of citizen DNA information, aimed at "detecting, investigating, prosecuting, preventing or responding to terrorist activities." Samples could be collected without a court order; one need only be suspected of wrongdoing by a law enforcement officer. Those refusing the cheek-swab could be fined $200,000 and jailed for a year. "Because no federal genetic privacy law regulates DNA databases, privacy advocates fear that the data they contain could be misused," Wired News reported March 31. "People with 'flawed' DNA have already suffered genetic discrimination at the hands of employers, insurance companies and the government."
Authorities could wiretap anybody for 15 days, and snoop on anyone's Internet usage (including chat and email), all without obtaining a warrant.
The government would be specifically instructed not to release any information about detainees held on suspicion of terrorist activities, until they are actually charged with a crime. Or, as Hentoff put it, "for the first time in U.S. history, secret arrests will be specifically permitted."
Businesses that rat on their customers to the Feds – even if the information violates privacy agreements, or is, in fact, dead wrong – would be granted immunity. "Such immunity," the ACLU contended, "could provide an incentive for neighbor to spy on neighbor and pose problems similar to those inherent in Attorney General Ashcroft's Operation TIPS."
Police officers carrying out illegal searches would also be granted legal immunity if they were just carrying out orders.
Federal "consent decrees" limiting local law enforcement agencies' abilities to spy on citizens in their jurisdiction would be rolled back. As Howard Simon, executive director of Florida's ACLU, noted in a March 19 column in the Sarasota Herald Tribune: "The restrictions on political surveillance were hard-fought victories for civil liberties during the 1970s."
American citizens could be subject to secret surveillance by their own government on behalf of foreign countries, including dictatorships.
The death penalty would be expanded to cover 15 new offenses.
And many of PATRIOT I's "sunset provisions" – stipulating that the expanded new enforcement powers would be rescinded in 2005 – would be erased from the books, cementing Ashcroft's rushed legislation in the law books. As UPI noted March 10, "These sunset provisions were a concession to critics of the bill in Congress."
scary scary scary ****. take my citizenship? retroactivly? for "material support"?
stop supporting fascists, just admit you made a mistake with bush and the neocons and get rid of them.