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Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: SaltyDawg-SA19 on January 05, 2004, 05:22:40 AM
All!
          I was wondering if I am doing the fighter bombing correct, I havent seen an X like in AW when you dive on a target.  Also I dont have to arm the bomb? Just drop it?

   This is probably the first of many newb Q's:)

  I am so excited that I have found this game, I missed AW so much.  I hope to be "live" by about Wednesday of this week, so go easy on me then.;)
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: 214thCavalier on January 05, 2004, 05:36:49 AM
No X's
And just drop the bombs.

Have fun.
Title: ive got a question 4 ya ?
Post by: twigace on January 05, 2004, 06:04:22 AM
:confused: :mad:
   well the heel do u start flying this game at ?:eek:
 so is one of u guys gonna help me throughthis game or what i c ur replys  are current
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Boozer on January 05, 2004, 06:08:44 AM
Takes a few tries to find your exact release point and some planes are slightly different, but for instance if I dive in at 60^ angle from 10k in a P-47 I can be sure of a hit when I put the bottom pixel of the default sight on my target.
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: SaltyDawg-SA19 on January 05, 2004, 06:11:20 AM
Thanks for the replies.

And about what alt do u drop?
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: twigace on January 05, 2004, 06:13:53 AM
hey guys tell me where  start this game up fro most games have an icon to click?
****in help me otu
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: SaltyDawg-SA19 on January 05, 2004, 06:35:19 AM
The best thing to do is download and read the manual.  And any other Q's search this site.   (at least that is what I am doing :) )
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Ghosth on January 05, 2004, 07:04:37 AM
Twigace

try start, programs, aces high if you don't have a shortcut on your desktop.
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Murdr on January 05, 2004, 07:09:01 AM
twigace.  click start/find/files or folders type aceshigh it should tell you where aceshigh.exe is, which is the file that fires up the game.
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Virage on January 05, 2004, 07:33:19 AM
saltydog

search the bb for directions on how to enable the divebombsite in offline mode.  It will help you develop your divebombing technique.
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: SaltyDawg-SA19 on January 05, 2004, 08:08:33 AM
I will look for that, I did try what boozer said and it worked.  Is ack range 6k?
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Flit on January 05, 2004, 10:44:56 AM
I also recommrend you spend some time in the training arena,before you jump in to the MA
The frustration level will go way down
BTW-alt f4 does nothing but exit the game,don't fall for it
Title: Re: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Drano on January 05, 2004, 11:12:41 AM
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Originally posted by SaltyDawg-SA19
All!
          I was wondering if I am doing the fighter bombing correct, I havent seen an X like in AW when you dive on a target.  Also I dont have to arm the bomb? Just drop it?

   This is probably the first of many newb Q's:)

  I am so excited that I have found this game, I missed AW so much.  I hope to be "live" by about Wednesday of this week, so go easy on me then.;)


Actually, you CAN get the "X like in AW" here in AH. However, it will only appear offline or in the Training Arena.

To do that:

1. Bring up the clipboard and click on setup.
2. Click on arena settings.
3. Look on the list for "flight mode flags".
4. Double click on that.

This will bring up a box of things you can turn on or off by checking them. Checking the box for "dive bomb sight" will bring up the little "x". (Its actually gonna be a little green cross here.) It represents where on the ground your weapon would hit if you released it right now. Just like the CCIP(Constantly Computed Impact Point) sight did in AW.

The green cross will only show if you have bombs or rockets loaded onto your plane and you have them selected as your secondary weapon. To scroll thru your secondary weapons hit the backspace key repeatedly until the one you want appears in your lower ammo counter. To release them hit the "b" key.

      Drano
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: TweetyBird on January 05, 2004, 11:17:04 AM
Just a note, though you don't have to arm a bomb (like in AW) make sure its selected in your secondary weapon slot (Backspace key toggles through the secondary weapons and pilons by default).


Edit: oops guess we were wrting at same time, Drano :)
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: SaltyDawg-SA19 on January 05, 2004, 11:36:11 AM
Thanks again for the replies, this also leads me to another Question:

  Since you bring up the offline flying and training, I have noticed I havent spun out offline yet...is that gonna change when I go online?:D
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: MOSQ on January 05, 2004, 12:52:48 PM
The spin model here is much more forgiving than Full Realism in AW was. It's not as forgiving as Relaxed Realism in AW however.

I almost never spin here, and when I do, it's easily recoverable. The only time I've ever flat spinned all the down was my second flight in a Tempest. But the Tempest has a huge amount of torque.

The planes fly the same offline as they do online.
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Estes on January 05, 2004, 01:01:42 PM
Look up Skpg in the main arena, he is the one who taught me how to jabo. I can sorta explain it, but im sure he could do alot better.

Get about 10k above your target (its easier the higher you are), select salvo 2 rockets first.

Start your dive at a 45 degree angle diving towards your target, zoom your sight in at the target, pop off rockets, make sure they hit.

You use the rockets as an aiming aide, FIRE, FIRE once you see that your rockets hit the target you know that your bombs will hit when you release.

Like I said, i'm not very good at explaining. I can make a film. That might be easier. Or you can look up skpg in the MA.
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Roscoroo on January 05, 2004, 01:24:41 PM
you guys forgot to tell him to set the salvo on the bombs also .

in the game hit   /   for the chat bar and type in .salvo 2  or more for how many bombs ,rockets you want to drop at once .
droping one bomb from an outer wing hung load will cause the plane to yaw all over the place.
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Soda on January 05, 2004, 01:49:51 PM
My 2-bits:

Try and keep a consistent attack angle for a while until you get the feel for it.  The difference between a steep and shallow attack is pretty big and I think most people perfer one that is steep (>60 deg).  If you come in shallow you need to account more for gravity-impact on your bomb-flight which is less of an issue with a steep approach.

I also ripple my bombs, especially if I'm packing 1,000lb'rs.  A single bomb hit is enough to kill anything except a hanger (or a ship) so I increase my hit % if I set Salvo 1 and then quickly release each in succession with a 1/4 second delay or so.  Always ensure you even up the load though as on some aircraft an uneven load can cause wild yaw (as Rosorro points out).
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: MaddogJoe on January 05, 2004, 06:21:35 PM
Hey Salty, welcome to Aces High! I'm not sure what the "default" setting is, but Hitech added a "stall limiter" to the game for the newbies. If you have this enabled it may be the reason your not spinning at all.... on the other hand you just might be a natural!  :D

On the clipboard click "set-up" then "flight", at the bottom see if the limiter is enabled or not.

Aces High has a much bigger learning curve than AW ever did, but if ya stick with it, it worth it ! :aok
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: SaltyDawg-SA19 on January 05, 2004, 06:36:21 PM
Thanks MDJOE, I remember you guys from RR PAC  :)  Do you remember the 19th Air Wing?  Good to see the Mafia doing well after all these years.

p.s. I think I'm ready for the jump to the Training Arena  :)
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: MaddogJoe on January 05, 2004, 06:47:36 PM
rgr Salty.... think I see OH19 now and then... a friend of yous? I remember the 19th, look us up when you get to the MA bud !
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: SaltyDawg-SA19 on January 05, 2004, 07:30:28 PM
Yep he was the last CO of the 19th.  Will do on the MA  Thnx
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: MaddogJoe on January 06, 2004, 06:22:09 AM
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Originally posted by SaltyDawg-SA19
Yep he was the last CO of the 19th.  Will do on the MA  Thnx


hehehe I know ! Just bustin your chops bud! :)
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: Hap on January 06, 2004, 10:04:27 AM
salty if you decide to fly bishops, say hi in the ma.  i'll give you a hand with the divebombing.  

hap1
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: vorticon on January 06, 2004, 11:21:35 AM
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Since you bring up the offline flying and training, I have noticed I havent spun out offline yet...is that gonna change when I go online


you have stall limiter enabled...
Title: Fighter Bombing
Post by: guttboy on January 06, 2004, 05:10:46 PM
I am really good at taking out just about any target in a dive bombing mode in the P51D...My JABO choice....I can kill a hangar in one pass.....(well thats if I havent had tooo much beer...LOL)...I got a map that is used for JABO training that starts you out at 10k and 20k (NO NEED TO CLIMB) and you can practice all day long...I also have the "CHEATS"  actually the divebomb and rocket "sights" enabled so you can see where they will hit.

Bottom line...practice.....but let me dig the map up and perhaps I will set is up as a H2H arena again to train JABO stuff.....

Fly for rooks always and forever...AZ in AW......

TG12