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Title: Interesting early German plane
Post by: polka on January 05, 2004, 06:37:36 PM
Hello,
I found this while browsing ebay. It looks to me like it could be a Rumpler. But was it being used after the first world war, or were swastikas used this early?

postcard (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36048&item=2215936484)
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Post by: MiloMorai on January 05, 2004, 07:02:45 PM
Finnish markings????;)
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Post by: Tarmac on January 05, 2004, 08:40:23 PM
Isn't the Von Rosen Cross usually straight up and down?  A square, not a diamond orientation like the swastika?
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Post by: Arlo on January 05, 2004, 08:43:45 PM
Those aren't Finnish markings. What is being portrayed on the wings are most definately Nazi swastikas. If this postcard is genuine and not some sort of retouched fake (even if it dates back to the thirties as claimed) I would say it's a late model WWI aircraft that may have been used for exhibitions or even basic flight training after the Nazi party came to power.
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Post by: vorticon on January 05, 2004, 09:35:57 PM
why would i want to spend 18$ on a "authentic" photograph when i can get a copyright there on the site??? or is it some "culture" thing rich people use to feel superior???


thats one but ugly plane btw...puts the warthog to SHAME
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Post by: GScholz on January 05, 2004, 09:59:07 PM
Why is it surprizing to see a plane from the '30s with swaztikas? The Nazi Party (NSDAP) was formed in 1923 (with Hitler in charge), and its forerunner the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (German Workers Party, abbreviated DAP) was formed in 1919. The Nazis used planes and airshows as a propaganda tool along with WWI fighter aces and famous pilots like Göring and Udet.
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Post by: Shiva on January 06, 2004, 12:09:38 AM
Look like a Rumpler C.I; the lower wing shape is wrong for it to be a C.IV. If I had to guess, I'd say it was a trainer, pressed into service before Germany built more modern trainers.
Title: Interesting early German plane
Post by: Shiva on January 06, 2004, 12:20:10 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Con - "Then you conclude that Bush is Hitler!"


Actually, while Bush isn't Hitler, his grandfather (Prescott Bush) and great-grandfather (George Herbert Walker) supported him, albeit indirectly. A company they were partners in, the United Banking Corporation, was formed in a partnership with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen in 1926; Thyssen had been one of Hitler's major contributors and supporters since 1923. According to government documents, it was a clearing house for a number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury and war bonds. On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its assets after the war.

So while Dubya may not be Hitler, his family has a history of business deals with the Nazis...

New Hampshire Gazette article (http://nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi%20Link)
Title: Interesting early German plane
Post by: GScholz on January 06, 2004, 01:04:59 AM
Shiva, please keep the politics in the O'Club. My sig quote has nothing to do with Bush.
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Post by: straffo on January 06, 2004, 03:59:07 AM
Can someone host the pict ?
Because the only think I have is :
 
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Dear User:

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Post by: Tarmac on January 06, 2004, 04:11:01 AM
(http://www.themorenaseyes.com/jan5/19.jpg)

Can you see that?
Title: Interesting early German plane
Post by: straffo on January 06, 2004, 04:18:37 AM
yep , thank you !

is it a  L.V.G.  ?
Title: Interesting early German plane
Post by: mora on January 06, 2004, 06:21:20 AM
hmm... those svastikas look different than the ones in WW2 planes. Maybe it is indeed an early NSDAP show plane, maybe from '20s?
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Post by: Wmaker on January 06, 2004, 06:29:53 AM
The plane is from Latvian Air Force.
Title: Interesting early German plane
Post by: Sakai on January 06, 2004, 09:37:45 AM
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Originally posted by Wmaker
The plane is from Latvian Air Force.


Actually, that aircraft was the Latvian Airforce.

Regards,

Sakai
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Post by: MiloMorai on January 06, 2004, 09:58:40 AM
http://www.wiseowlmagazines.com/ProductsBR_AF5.html

notice the color, a rusty red.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on January 06, 2004, 10:10:20 AM
Whats that geeen low wing fighter with the wierd engine?
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Post by: mora on January 06, 2004, 10:17:15 AM
Don't know the plane but it seems to have a 24-cylinder H-engine.
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Post by: Wmaker on January 06, 2004, 10:39:46 AM
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Originally posted by Sakai
Actually, that aircraft was the Latvian Airforce.


Actually they had many different types including Sopwith Camel and Gloster Gladiator...
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Post by: Sakai on January 06, 2004, 11:48:25 AM
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Originally posted by Wmaker
Actually they had many different types including Sopwith Camel and Gloster Gladiator...


Well at least they had the good sense to have enough wings on their aircraft.  And propellors, I might add.  Unlike some other airforces we might identify.

Sakai
Title: Interesting early German plane
Post by: Wmaker on January 06, 2004, 01:14:24 PM
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Originally posted by Sakai
Well at least they had the good sense to have enough wings on their aircraft.  And propellors, I might add.  Unlike some other airforces we might identify.


??? :confused: