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General Forums => Terrain Editor => Topic started by: Bullethead on January 06, 2004, 09:24:51 PM
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We seem to have a lot of guys wanting to try their hand at skinning planes these days, so how about all you skinners out there post up some of your favorite creations. You know, showcase your work and inspire the new guys who'll hopefully soon get the chance to strut their stuff in AH2.
I'll go first:
(http://people.delphiforums.com/jtweller/B26inwork.jpg)
This was my 1st real skin. Nothing fancy, just a silver B26, although I'm kinda proud of being able to do the nose art acceptably well. Note the "annoyance" here of having only 1 texture for both sides of the nacelle, so I couldn't do an anti-glare panel on the inner side :(
(http://people.delphiforums.com/jtweller/DoraRudel.jpg)
I got this from More Luftwaffe Fighter Aircraft in Profile by Claes Sundin and Christer Bergstrom. This Dora was supposedly flown by Stuka ace Rudel at the end of the war.
(http://people.delphiforums.com/jtweller/MaltaSpitSkin.jpg)
This is my interpretation of a photo in Malta: The Spitfire Year 1941 by Christopher Shores, Brian Cull, and Nicola Maliza. This is a spit5c delivered to Malta in April '42, flown off USS Wasp. This batch of spits was painted some color of blue while aboard the CV, so I chose 1942 USN blue as being the most likely available. At the time of this pic, the spit had seen some hard use so the blue was chipping off, exposing the underlying Brit camo. This was just an experiment, actually, simply putting blue over the stock skin and adding some weathering. I'm currently working on the definitive version :)
(http://people.delphiforums.com/jtweller/OddPrint.jpg)
I made this as a birthday present for one of my squaddies. He's a mailman with a bad attitude, the Hurri IIC is his favorite ride, and vulching is his favorite passtime :). Note the UPS symbol kill markings :). This is just to show that you don't have to be historical when you do skins.
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Beautiful skins there Bullet. I especially like the Spit, very well done with the weathering. I'm currently looking for a skin to do, but can't get any inspiration. Thinking of doing a German captured spitfire. Good job :aok
(Love the UPS kill signs!!!!!)
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By the way, what is the name of the textures of the B-26 in TE? I can't find it.
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I liked the Idea of skin galeray:
IAF - Spitfire Mk IX
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073635909.jpg)
IAF S-199
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073635975.jpg)
IAF P-51D Mustang
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636011.jpg)
IAF Mosquito Mk VI
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636037.jpg)
IAF B-17G Flying Fortress
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636151.jpg)
IAF C-47 Dakota
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636191.jpg)
Egyptian Skins
REAF - Spitfire Mk V
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636219.jpg)
REAF - C 205
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636255.jpg)
REAF - Harvard Mk II
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636294.jpg)
EAF - Il-28
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636326.jpg)
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Others
RAF Meteor
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636354.jpg)
Franch Navy F4U-7
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_227_1073636387.jpg)
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First attempt at a bomber skin, a factory bare metal B-26. For some reason the nost art didnt show up...
(http://www.81x.com/Authors/391stTAW/bareb261.jpg)
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bullethead...that hurri and the 26 look incredible...
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Originally posted by United
By the way, what is the name of the textures of the B-26 in TE? I can't find it.
B26SIDE.bmp
B26WINGS.bmp
LOGO.bmp
LOGO_a.bmp
The latter 2 are the nose art and the nose art alpha map. If your nose art doesn't show, it's probably because you didn't do the LOGO_a.bmp right.
And thanks for the compliments. I'm pimping for a job in the scenario skin department ;).
The rest of you, let's see some more skins.
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P38
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_115_1073769286.jpg)
A6m2
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_115_1073769249.jpg)
Ju88(skined as the G4M betty)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_115_1073769267.jpg)
P38L with new rocket color.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_115_1073769225.jpg)
Fm2 is to messed up to show LOL!
posted these on squad forums. These are a start for me
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B17skull reduce saturation of color of P-38 it is too pure green - I think you have used 0/255/0 RGB - reduce saturaion.
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hehe. i used hard light for the 38 so it was close to black the color i used.
note the rockets;)
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U.S.N. LA7 skin. No damage or weathering texturing, yet...
(http://www.81x.com/Authors/391stTAW/la71.jpg)
argh, horrible picture, I'll get a better one....
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Skull,
Do you think you could send me the Ju88/Betty skin to use for a map?
Thanks.
BTW, some plane textures seem to be missing from the list. I can't seem to find the 262, B26, B17, and others.
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Originally posted by Corsair
BTW, some plane textures seem to be missing from the list. I can't seem to find the 262, B26, B17, and others.
You need to delete a file called shpfilter.txt
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Originally posted by Corsair
Skull,
Do you think you could send me the Ju88/Betty skin to use for a map?
Thanks.
BTW, some plane textures seem to be missing from the list. I can't seem to find the 262, B26, B17, and others.
ask ramezy to use his i think he made for okniawa. I just painted red dots over LW signs :p
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Originally posted by Corsair
Skull,
Do you think you could send me the Ju88/Betty skin to use for a map?
Thanks.
BTW, some plane textures seem to be missing from the list. I can't seem to find the 262, B26, B17, and others.
Find the file "shpfilter.txt" in the default C:Program Files/HTC/aheditor/terrains. Open it and delete any plane name that you want to skin. Open the TE and it should then be available.
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is that A6M2 with leprosy???
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yes;)
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Just noticed your sig Skull, how can you be a proud member of Shanes squad?
We, (the muppets) tricked him into joining our ranks in the MA. :)
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hehe i got to change that. Shane taght me the CT :)
ty shane;)
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(http://people.delphiforums.com/jtweller/SpitX1.jpg)
My latest creation... This is Spit Vc BR112/X of 185 Squadron on Malta. It arrived via USS Wasp in April 1942 with the standard Brit desert camo covered over on top with USN 1942 blue. After 5 months of very hard service, it was shot down by ack and bellied in on a Sicilian beach, where numerous photos were taken of it. Thus, I have a pretty good idea of the extent to which the blue paint had worn off and how much paint chipping and staining there was at that time. It's shown here like it's en route on its last sortie.
I did this one with textures twice the usual AH1 size, as practice for the high-res AH2 textures. Who knows? Maybe some of this will be salvageable for AH2 ;).
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Absolutely astonishing bullet. Where do you get Ideas for skins like that? I'm struggling!
And btw, what editing program do you use?
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Ive also got a question.
I'm currently working on a P-40 for a scenario in H2H im going to set up. I finished the skin and was going to save it as 256 colors. I did so and all of my colors were completely wrong. I cant find a color to substitute it for either.
How did you get your colors to come out?
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Corsair, I believe the Betty skins that Skull was referring to are mine, not Ramzey's... where shall I send them too?
Here's an A-24 Banshee
(http://home.sprynet.com/~cwbeals/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/a24.jpg)
Afrika Corps Stuka
(http://home.sprynet.com/~cwbeals/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/afrikastuka.jpg)
Kikka
(http://home.sprynet.com/~cwbeals/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/kikka.jpg)
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Originally posted by Dux
Kikka
(http://home.sprynet.com/~cwbeals/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/kikka.jpg)
Also the Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu. That was the plane that was an outright copy of the Me-262, so reskinning it is all you need.
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Shiva is correct... thx :)
United... when you start editing a skin from one that is exported from the TE, you need to save it UP to a 24-bit format... aka RGB. That way you have the full gamut of colors to work with.
When done editing, save a COPY of your work out at 8-bit mode (aka indexed or 256-color). Always keep a 24-bit master.
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Dux, those skins are great. Can you send them to me?
My email (matthorowitz@hotmail.com)
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Thank ya Dux. I made that mistake when I saved my finished 24bit P-40 to a 256, turned out crap and I lost my colors.
I dont think that answered my question, or it did and im too stupid to see it.
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- I open the TE and save the texture I want, then close TE.
- I open the C:/Program Files/HTC/aheditor/terrains/myterr/savedtex/P40ESD.bmp.
- I save P40ESD.bmp as a 24 bit color bitmap.
- I edit the skin to where I want it, and then resave as 256 colors (8 bit mode)
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Heres what I dont get.
After I saved as 256 colors, all my coloring is messed up. I.E. I have a bare-metal grey color in 24 bit mode, but in 256 it turns into a teal-blue color.
What am I doing wrong here?
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United said:
Absolutely astonishing bullet. Where do you get Ideas for skins like that? I'm struggling!
Thanks!
As for ideas, I just have a bunch of books on WW2 airplanes that I read and reread constantly. Periodically, I see a photo or color profile that strikes my fancy so I make a skin of it.
It's also a good idea to have a bunch of books with accurate line drawings of the AH planes. This lets you put the panel lines in the right place because sometimes the stock skins have them way wrong.
And btw, what editing program do you use?
I use Paint Shop Pro 7. I got it to specifically to make skins with and had never done any graphics before. So I just started doing skins, starting simple like that B26 up above to get the hang of it. I just finished that Malta spit today and was learning new tricks by doing it right up to the end. So just get after it and you'll be doing great stuff in no time.
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United said:
I finished the skin and was going to save it as 256 colors. I did so and all of my colors were completely wrong. I cant find a color to substitute it for either. How did you get your colors to come out?
When you 1st export the skin, it's in 256. Your very 1st step in editing should be to increase the color depth as high as it will go. In Paint Shop Pro, you need to do this anyway so you can use layers. Then do all your editing and save the file. Then save it under another name, like by putting an extra character in front. Then with that new copy open, merge all the layers, then reduce the colors back to 256, then save it as a .bmp without the extra character in front.
The reason for making the copy with that extra character is in case you accidentally hit SAVE instead of SAVE AS after you've collapsed the layers and reduced the colors :D Ask me how I know this is a good safety tip... :(
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Damn, Dux, those are some sweet skins! I especially like the Stuka, but they're all great.
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Originally posted by Bullethead
United said:
When you 1st export the skin, it's in 256. Your very 1st step in editing should be to increase the color depth as high as it will go. In Paint Shop Pro, you need to do this anyway so you can use layers. Then do all your editing and save the file. Then save it under another name, like by putting an extra character in front. Then with that new copy open, merge all the layers, then reduce the colors back to 256, then save it as a .bmp without the extra character in front.
The reason for making the copy with that extra character is in case you accidentally hit SAVE instead of SAVE AS after you've collapsed the layers and reduced the colors :D Ask me how I know this is a good safety tip... :(
That's what I do, except using MS paint it may change the colors more than Paintshop. i dont know since Ive never used Paintshop ever. Thanks forthe help[ though!
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Love that Stuka Dux. Beauty right there. Put it in CT!!!
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United, I think I know what's happening to your colors... when you save it down to 8-bit from 24-bit, make sure you're using an adaptive palette (should be worded something like that). I bet you're using a web-safe or system palette, which is a very limited and specific palette. It will convert a color into it's nearest match, and sometimes it's not even close. An adaptive palette will use the actual colors already in your file, for the closest color match.
Also, if you have an option for diffusion dithering, I recommend using it.
Thanks guys, they're fun to do. Actually, all the skins I do end up either in the CT or in Special Events, so check them out when you can.
Corsair, I'll send you the Betty skins, but not the rest just yet. Don't want to steal anyone else's thunder. :)
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I checked it out and did some research, but I cant find anything about adaptive pallet. I understand what you mean, but how may I go about changing it?
Thanks!
(I know I piss a lot of people off with all my questions.)
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Nobody's getting p'd off, don't worry. :)
You may just be hitting a wall with MSPaint. Paint's really not meant for serious graphics work... you may want to find a cheap (or free) copy of something better.
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I do have the free Serif 5.5 photoshop, but I cant get it to save anything as a bitmap. Its all .srf, serif use only.
I do have one more editor but its for picture imaging only. I may have to break down and get paintshop...
What do you use Dux?
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Ah, success. I found out how to convert Macromedia Fireworks .png files to .bmp. I'm all set now. Thanks for your time and patience all who helped, especially Dux!
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Cool. I use PhotoShop, but many use PaintShopPro. There are other programs, too... bottom line: use whatever works for you, as long as it can do the job.
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Originally posted by Bullethead
...And thanks for the compliments. I'm pimping for a job in the scenario skin department.
Bullethead, if you're serious about this, send me an e-mail.
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Originally posted by United
Absolutely astonishing bullet. Where do you get Ideas for skins like that? I'm struggling!
Another great reference source I like to use are modelling review articles online... they usually have great pictures, and the modellers who are good enough to post reviews usually are very thorough in their research and are historically accurate.
Do a Google search on something like "hellcat 1/48 review" or "stuka 1/72 review" and see how many great sites it returns, all with pictures.
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Dux said:
Another great reference source I like to use are modelling review articles online... they usually have great pictures, and the modellers who are good enough to post reviews usually are very thorough in their research and are historically accurate.
Yeah, this is a great source. I found a cool Dora model with not only good pics but 3-view drawings and even color profiles. The cool thing about this one is that it's a product of the dispersed assembly with zero time for fine-tuning, so the it's got all kinds of paint mismatches, plus bare metal here and there, and the upper wings are only 1/2 camo'd, the rest being primer ;). Looks like a complete abortion but it definitely has character.
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Originally posted by Corsair
Dux, those skins are great. Can you send them to me?
My email (matthorowitz@hotmail.com)
Dux, did you send the Betty skin to me? If so, I think it was accidentally deleted.
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Make yer own! All you gotta do is put some red dots over the German insignia!
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D'oh! Will send it tonight.
lol... it's a little more than that, United. Here's a shot from one of the recent Friday Squad Ops that used it.
(http://home.sprynet.com/~cwbeals/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/sandogthebrave.jpg)
needless to say, Sandog did not survive very long after this. :)
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hehe im to lazy to do anything else other than paint over luftwaffe signs ;)
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Originally posted by Dux
D'oh! Will send it tonight.
lol... it's a little more than that, United. Here's a shot from one of the recent Friday Squad Ops that used it.
(http://home.sprynet.com/~cwbeals/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/sandogthebrave.jpg)
needless to say, Sandog did not survive very long after this. :)
Thats a great betty, but I thought he wanted the one that Skull posted.
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ummm... he did.
Then Skull said ask Ramzey for the one he made for the Okinawa map.
Then I said that it was mine, not Ramzey's.
Then he said...
ohh forget it. :)
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nah ju88 is easy one to make only things i had to borrow from ramezy were f4u1 Royal navy skin and F4u1d skin from okinawa i hate the default one.
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ufff whos calling ghosts?;)
Dux did great skin of ju88-betty for okinawa
all other credits go to Superfly
btw Cameron, are you done with roster for Ruhr?
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Originally posted by Dux
ummm... he did.
Then Skull said ask Ramzey for the one he made for the Okinawa map.
Then I said that it was mine, not Ramzey's.
Then he said...
ohh forget it. :)
ah :D
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ah2 pony skin:
while this not my first skin for a game ever, it is my first ah skin:)
EDIT: sorry..little loss of quality when converting to JPEG
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074984581.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074984677.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074984522.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074984563.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074984539.jpg)
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Hey Dux, if you have the D3A1 green skin used in the slot terrain in CT, would you please mail (bnicely_united@yahoo.com) it to me? If not could you tell me who has it? Thanks a bunch in advance. :)
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Not mine, United. I'd guess Ramzey, but I'm not sure.
Lol, only Val skin I ever did looked like a Stuka (before we had Stukas). :)
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Hehe, thanks for the quick reply Dux. I'll ask Ramzey about it.
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ask 10bears or kanttori, i think same skin was used for okinawa
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Originally posted by Dux
D'oh! Will send it tonight.
lol... it's a little more than that, United. Here's a shot from one of the recent Friday Squad Ops that used it.
(http://home.sprynet.com/~cwbeals/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/sandogthebrave.jpg)
needless to say, Sandog did not survive very long after this. :)
Dux can you send me that ju88 skin? AH_Raptor01@Hotmail.com
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Roger that, Raptor... it'll be later tonight.
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double post.
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Dux have you sent that skin yet? If so might need to try again because lately people need to send a message twice before i recieve it. thanks
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D3A which I plan on using as a KI-27
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1075433482.jpg)
Panzer for Japanese ground forces (seems a little much for a Japanese tank but they had a better army than the Chinese, so it will have to be pnzr v M8.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1075418626.jpg)
Ostwind
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1075418797.jpg)
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Pretty good stuff Raptor. I didnt know you could skin or had even tried. Great work!
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Black P-38 I threw together in about an hour. Didnt add any damage or weathering...
(http://r0013636.hostultra.com/uploads/data/media/2/248.jpg)
(http://r0013636.hostultra.com/uploads/data/media/2/246.jpg)
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took a little longer than an hour...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1075699776.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1075699948.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1075698919.jpg)
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only the bottom half of the nose art showed up some odd reason... but it was a girl in a devil costume saying "join me below" (kinda like saying see you in hell cause your about to get shot down) to go along with the satan on the nose.
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Originally posted by Raptor01
only the bottom half of the nose art showed up some odd reason... but it was a girl in a devil costume saying "join me below" (kinda like saying see you in hell cause your about to get shot down) to go along with the satan on the nose.
There's another file that has the black and yellow nose on it, im not sure what its called but If I find it ill let you know because I know you dont want that on there.
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Those are two VERY VERY sexy p38's... :eek:
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YOU can adopt ME for $14.95
ill take that deal up:D
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Im a bad man... :D
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you should change it to $14.95 a month ;)
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nah.. only need one month payed for then I will have the money... :D
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Originally posted by United
There's another file that has the black and yellow nose on it, im not sure what its called but If I find it ill let you know because I know you dont want that on there.
I replaced the files with that alphabet thing and the nose stayed black and yellow... only other thing with black and yellow on the plane is the prop, i might try changing its color and seeing if it effects the nose.
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Raptor, save yourself some searching... there is no file that textures that panel. It's colored at the polygon level. You can't change it.
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Here's couple of mine from the FinRus maps:
(http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/koneet/messerschmitt_bf109g2_mt222.jpg)
(http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/koneet/junkers_ju88a4_JK256.jpg)
(http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/koneet/messerschmitt_bf110e1_m8+kc.jpg)
(http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/koneet/lavochin_la5_17.jpg)
(http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/koneet/il2_type3_07.jpg)
And here's more in my "Lentolaivue 32" pages if you're interested:
Lentolaivue 32 (http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/)
Click Button "Kuvia" (Pictures) and there's much more Finnish, Russian and German skins from me, Kweassa, Ramzey and Dux!;)
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This is nice Sturmovik's winter camo from Dux:
(http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/koneet/il2_type3_winter.jpg)
And here's La-5 FN skinned to Winter camouflaged La-5 by me:
(http://www.kesalesket.net/llv32/koneet/lavochin_la5_winter.jpg)
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There's a really good book with LOTS of pictures, I don't know if any of you have it, but it'd be helpful it's called 'The Great Book of World War II Airplanes' it's about a 3 " thick 1 ft wide, and about 1 1/2 ft tall, it's hard to miss* and it's illustrated by Rikyu WATANBE, it's silver and has the diffrent historic artwork in it. Very nice book( gonna try and buy it, about 30 USD) and raptor, could you send me the green 38 skin, elephart@yahoo.com
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That P38 has been modified since that last post, I will send you the new one (the Nose is fixed up and lettering put on side and rudders)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1076910607.jpg)
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hehe, Bluangl... that's a fantastic book. Watanabe is one of my heroes.
Raptor, could you post a pic of the finished 38 please? :)
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hehe, yeah, but it makes my legs numb. lol:lol thanks raptor I got your e-mail and replied to the other problem we are having.
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Gladly Dux
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1076970629.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1076970826.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1076969961.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1076969357.jpg)
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Wild Race Horses couldnt keep me out of that babys cockpit!:D ;) :aok
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Heres my latest project, still in the early hours of work. It has several problems, the largest being the wings arent the same color as the fuselage grey :eek:. The nose needs to be changed and I also havent added weathering or anything like that.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_251_1077143221.jpg)
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This thread has some great skins so I'm going to bump it using my Yak skinned like a P39.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_201_1077682021.jpg)
(http://www.dongo.hu/images/profilrajz/p39/w.gif)