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Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: TPIguy on January 08, 2004, 08:59:12 PM
http://ls1****.com/videos/turbobusa.wmv


:eek:
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: TPIguy on January 08, 2004, 09:00:21 PM
man I can't believe the word t.u.r.d is blocked.

Try this link instead

http://modernmusclecars.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7253
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: XNachoX on January 08, 2004, 10:21:19 PM
whoa....this guy ghostrider also did that he sells DVD's on his website, just flew by his cameraman that was doing like 150, and there was so much power the front wheel never  came down.

Hayabusa's are scary fast.
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Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: deSelys on January 09, 2004, 02:39:44 AM
:eek: It produces the same wind noise as a diving P51!!
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: loser on January 09, 2004, 03:00:11 AM
Jesus H Roosevelt Christ!
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: deSelys on January 09, 2004, 04:47:43 AM
I noticed that he was switching gears while in wheeling. Is this relatively easy to do, or is this the proof sign of an 'expert'? (complete bike dweeb here...)
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Heater on January 09, 2004, 05:25:02 AM
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Originally posted by deSelys
I noticed that he was switching gears while in wheeling. Is this relatively easy to do, or is this the proof sign of an 'expert'? (complete bike dweeb here...)


It's easy to do as long as you know what you are doing and have the power to do it
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: JimBear on January 09, 2004, 07:44:54 AM
pardon my ignorance on going 200mph on a bike but is it a function of the video taping that the lines on the road are still distinctly visible? Being a wuss the fastest I ever went was around 130 or so and all i remember was that it appeared as a solid line. Possible the speedo is porked?
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Naso on January 09, 2004, 08:34:51 AM
mph??

I guessed was in Kph.

mmmm something weird there....

Question:

in those beasts the tachometer is not in the front wheel, i guess, but somewhere inside the gear box.

Maybe some modify ruined the tachom. accuracy?
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: TPIguy on January 09, 2004, 09:10:31 AM
if you look at the speedo the large numbers on the outside ARE mph. So, according to that he was doing over 220.

but Jimbear brings up a good point, it dosen't look like hes going that fast.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Naso on January 09, 2004, 09:23:06 AM
according to the proportional movement of the rpm gauge, he cut have reached a speed of 250 mph = approx 400 Kph.

No, there's something strange in it.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: deSelys on January 09, 2004, 09:26:23 AM
I dunno, but as he is driving...err flying NOE on the left hand side of the road, it is well possible that this was filmed in Australia or another country, and the line drawings may be strongly different from the US roads.
Besides, the length and separation of the white lines on the road seem to be pretty big at the beginning of his run.

And about the tachometer,  somebody said on the forum where this video was posted that Hayabusas have the tachometer  reading speed on the transmission between gearbox and wheel.

Anyway, if the video was doctored, it's a hell of a job.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: loser on January 09, 2004, 09:27:06 AM
I would say that he was actually going that fast. The bike is certainly capable of such insanity.

Also the lines on most highways are actually alot longer than you might think. Sometimes as long as 20 feet. I dont think they would become a blur at that speed.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Rude on January 09, 2004, 09:34:00 AM
I've been 150 on a bike before....from the visuals, I don't think he was doing anywhere near what that speedo indicated...just my take.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: kappa on January 09, 2004, 09:34:57 AM
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Originally posted by deSelys
I noticed that he was switching gears while in wheeling. Is this relatively easy to do, or is this the proof sign of an 'expert'? (complete bike dweeb here...)


You dont have to use the clutch on road bikes like that.. to change gears, accelerate to most any rpm, apply a small measure of up force on the gear selector and let off the gas just abit.. gears sync up and you advance to the next gear.. not advised for downshifting...

racing my suzuki, as a beginner I would always get left at the starting line and hence have more than desired ground to make up.... then a kind competetor showed me the light.. lol
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Furball on January 09, 2004, 09:47:21 AM
I was skeptical so did a little research.  Here is another if you did not believe it.

http://www.linienmc.dk/mc-uheld/jan12/turbo_busa.mpg
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: quig on January 09, 2004, 09:51:01 AM
He's wound out in 6th gear. Just check the top speed for the bike to see if it's possible.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: gofaster on January 09, 2004, 12:04:19 PM
Holy crap! On a public road, I'm surprised that guy isn't street pizza.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: mrblack on January 09, 2004, 12:20:16 PM
LOL organ donar
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Chairboy on January 09, 2004, 12:35:08 PM
I've put a camera on my bike when I went through the canyons and I was shocked at how slow it looked on TV.  The visuals are only part of the equation, I've blasted down the street at 100mph then when I checked the onboard camera, it looked like I was driving Miss Daisy.

That guy was doing the speed, that was sweet.  A stock Hayabusa can just get 200mph, and that was w/ a Turbo.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Maniac on January 09, 2004, 12:37:15 PM
Looks like Sweden to me....
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: AKIron on January 09, 2004, 03:11:37 PM
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Originally posted by JimBear
pardon my ignorance on going 200mph on a bike but is it a function of the video taping that the lines on the road are still distinctly visible? Being a wuss the fastest I ever went was around 130 or so and all i remember was that it appeared as a solid line. Possible the speedo is porked?


I was thinking the same thing. I watched it a second time and noticed the intersecting road on the left just didn't fly by quickly enough to match the speed on the speedometer.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: BlckMgk on January 09, 2004, 11:38:42 PM
Alright lets see if we can get some video detectives.. and figure out his true speed..

I'm guessing 140ish.... (just noticed his reflection on the speedo Looks like a she)

dunno...
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Chairboy on January 09, 2004, 11:45:06 PM
I can't call myself a video detective, but I have personal experience with video taping from a fixed camera on my motorcycle.  

With that in mind, the speed registered on the speedo is consistent with the rest of the video, based on what I've seen.  I've filmed my bike up to 140 registered, and it was proportionally slower looking on playback.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Estes on January 09, 2004, 11:52:58 PM
I'm stupid about cars, bikes and speeds..
But, the lines looked like they was goin pretty damn quick to me. lol
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: BB Gun on January 10, 2004, 12:19:16 AM
Guys - that was real.

Here's the bike:

http://www.dragbike.com/features/turbobusa/

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On high boost this bike makes more than 200hp from 6500 RPMs until redline and torque of 145 ft/lbs or more from 4800 RPMs upward. At peak, the torque reads 175.0 and the hp chimes in at 299.9. Many engine builders would have tweaked the dyno for one more run just to say it got 300hp but Barry is about honesty and credibility.
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One point here is that this ride was taken with stock gearing of 17/40 on the bike, which will surely have to be changed. Most riders with this system are going to an 18 tooth front sprocket and lowering the rear to 38-39 teeth. With the 18-38 and the stock tire, this computes to a 221 MPH top speed.
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Thus far our discussion has been about the mild version from Velocity's stable. For you real psychos who can never have enough we are going to turn our attention to the WILD side of the spectrum.
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(http://www.dragbike.com/features/turbobusa/images/vrtb1_chart03.jpg)

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Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Rolex on January 10, 2004, 01:56:32 AM
220 kph = 138 mph.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: Chairboy on January 10, 2004, 02:04:51 AM
Ah Rolex, I see you misunderstand.  We're talking about MPH, not KPH.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: WhiteHawk on January 10, 2004, 09:33:35 AM
sorry..the acceleration from 40mph to 110mph is simply too fast to be believed.  Approsamiately 4 seconds.  You can see the bike is doing 30mph just preparing for the run.  It looks like he may be doing 10 to 15 mph tops at that point.  He must have rigged the speedometr with a smaller gear or something.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: brendo on January 10, 2004, 06:25:20 PM
Some performance comparisions with acceleration and top speeds etc:

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums/

Just picking one that looks on of the best times:

motorcycle  Ducati 999 ('03)
issue  4/03 , 10/03
quarter mile (sec. @ mph)  10.29 @ 133.65
60-80mph time (sec.)  3.67
80-100mph time (sec.)  3.78
top speed (mph)  n/a


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On the video:
60-80 MPH     0.89 seconds
80 - 100 MPH 1.49 seconds

Ducati :  60-100 7.84
Video Bike: 2.38

However a Yamaha YZF1000R ('97)
60-80mph time (sec.)  3.01
80-100mph time (sec.)  2.88

60-100 in 5.89

The video bike accelerates over twice as fast.

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So is this bike a fake or real?

More research needed.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: brendo on January 10, 2004, 06:32:01 PM
0-100 MPH comparisons:

http://www.syclone.freeserve.co.uk/zero_100_zero.htm

Vehicle Power (bhp) 0-30mph (Secs) 0-60mph 0-100mph 0-100-0mph
Top Fuel Funny Car 5000 0.3 0.6 0.9 6.7
BAR F1 (Jacques Villeneuve's) 770 1.8 3.1 4.6 7.8
Yamaha R1 Motorcycle 142 1.7 3.2 6.1 12.4
TVR Tuscan Racer 450 2.1 4.2 7.9 12.9
Volvo BTCC Racer 300 2.0 4.5 9.1 13.6
Westfield FW400 190 1.9 3.8 8.7 13.7
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 349 1.7 3.9 9.8 14.7
Ford Focus WRC 300 1.2 3.8 10.0 14.8
Marcos Mantis SC 450 1.9 4.4 10.0 14.9
Aston Martin Vantage 600 600 2.1 4.3 9.3 15.2
BMW M5 400 2.1 4.6 10.6 15.7
Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VI RS 330 1.6 4.2 10.4 15.8
Porsche 911 C4 296 1.8 4.8 11.8 16.8
Caterham Superlight R 190 1.9 4.4 11.7 17.3
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage  420 2.2 5.2 11.8 17.4
Chevrolet Corvette 339 2.4 5.3 11.5 17.8
Mercedes CLK55  347 2.4 5.5 12.5 17.8
BMW Z3M Roadster  321 2.3 5.2 12.4 18.1
Subaru Impreza 22B 276 1.7 5.0 13.0 18.1
Nissan Skyline GTR  400 1.8 5.0 12.7 18.2
Mercedes C55 347 2.5 5.6 12.8 18.6
Jaguar XJR 370 2.1 5.3 12.8 18.9
Subaru Impreza RB5 238 1.7 5.1 14.0 19.6
GMC Syclone 300 1.7 4.6 13.7 19.7
Peugeot 306 Rallye 167 3.2 7.8 19.9 25.4
Honda Civic Jordan 158 3.4 8.2 21.9 28.0
Volkswagen Golf GTi  150 3.2 8.3 23.2 29.1



Formula 1 racecar can do 60MPH to 100 MPH in 1.3 seconds.
It takes out Video bike 2.38 seconds.

From the numbers, It looks like the video may be genuine.

More research needed.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: brendo on January 10, 2004, 06:41:05 PM
Info from site below:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/t114127.html

NOW LET'S LOOK at the Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa

0-100 of only 5.3 sec trumps even the Kawasaki ZX-9R's 7.2 0-100.

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Its hard to get a proper meaurement from our bike, due to a rolling start, however I timer 10 MPH - 110 MPH, at 8.27 seconds.

The Suzuki bike above is noted as 5.3 seconds to 100 MPH !

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More research needed.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: brendo on January 10, 2004, 06:55:33 PM
I know nothing about bikes.

But from the research, it looks possible.

Refer to this page for a riders account of the Suzuki GSX1300R

http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/pages/reviews/review40.htm

Notice the styling below? The video bike may be a Suzuki

(http://www.motorbyte.com/mmm/pages/reviews/reviewpics2/review40c.jpg)

Special Edition info:
http://www.tts-performance.co.uk/bikes/hayabusa/limited_edition.shtml

Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa
Specification
Chassis Silver Bodywork
Black Graphics
Silver Dymag Wheels
Zero Gravity Double Bubble Screen
Titanium Force Full System
 
Engine 1,299cc
81mm bore x 63mm stroke
6 speed sequential gearbox
12:1 compression (standard 11:1)
TTS Sport Camshafts
Gasflowed Cylinder Head
Remapped Engine Management
Revised Induction System
225bhp @ 9,800rpm (standard 175bhp)
125 ft lb torque @ 8,800rpm (standard 110 ft lb)
 
Performance Top Speed 200mph
0-60mph in 2.2 seconds
0-120mph in 6.6 seconds


NOTE: 60-100 MPH in 4.4 Seconds
Our video bike does it in 2.42 seconds. But is this time correct? I cant be sure.

The specs above give a Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa time of 6.6 seconds to 120 MPH.

On the video, the bike takes 10.4 seconds to get from 10 MPH to 120MPH.

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Conclusion:

This video if for real. The rider is being conservative!

Wow!
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: loser on January 10, 2004, 07:25:22 PM
thanks for the specs... the video is real im sure. The speed looks right to me (only rode for 8 years) and i know for a fact the bike can do it. I never miss demo rides and this bike is insane.

I didnt crack it over half throttle and the front wheel wanted to come up. The demo guys had a rule though. You lift the front you walk back.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: fffreeze220 on January 10, 2004, 11:02:16 PM
This guy is driving a turba charged Hayabusa. He got 450 HP on the rear wheel. He is reaching 200 mph before u realize it.
He is an idot tho. A fast idiot.
Title: Don't try this at home kids
Post by: wazimada on January 11, 2004, 02:33:18 AM
Saaazuuuk!!!!

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