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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Zanth on January 11, 2004, 10:20:39 PM
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Sunday+Small maps+Rooks = DOS
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We more or less had to cancel our own squad night tonight. A few of us gave CT a try as a last resort. There were already 60 or 70 people there, which should say volumes.
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thanks.
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Originally posted by Zanth
Sunday+Small maps+Rooks = DOS
Actually, it was even worse, Sunday + Small Maps + Rooks + RJO = DOS. I think we peaked around 320, and for a good portion of the night outnumbered the Bish and Knits combined. Your right, Small Maps are murder during an RJO, but we schedule them in advance and never really know what map is going to hit. We can hit the Bish next time :).
Cya Up!
Dawg
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when the going gets tough...
the damned get going.
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not much going to do in the game when fuel was porked. good ambiguity.
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I switched sides to nits after my first flight... wow dats' alotta rooks!
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Originally posted by Steve
I switched sides to nits after my first flight... wow dats' alotta rooks!
Merely proves Rooks have somewhat of a life on Friday night and Saturday night, therefore we come out Sunday night, the night before the week starts :D Sounds reasonable enough.. :p
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What, you mean to tell me that there was some hording/steamrollering taking place on the small maps?
Sorry, I don't believe that. ;)
:rolleyes:
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I was at roughly 25k for the Knights while guarding over 51.
I turned to go to 53 to help defend them.
On the way there I ran across something wierd.
a 60+ person rook mission. 40-50 of them were b26's in a tight formation.
That's when I logged off for the night. I got on combat theatre and had the best time on AH i've had so far.
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yes there called crooks LEMMING hordes.....:aok
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No slo,its called as a TIGER SQUADRON buff mission :D
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Did the map get reset?
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Originally posted by gofaster
Did the map get reset?
No... all 300 got together and took a base over the course of 2 hours. Afterward, they all high-fived then logged off.
MiniD
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payback for combined Bish Knit cowardice when they had their glory days of 150 150 vs 50...
now the tables turn for only one day and the naysayers come out of the wood work...
Heh the Irony...
2 and 1/2 cents
DoctorYo
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I however would like to thank the Rooks for all the kills and fun they provided Sunday night! :aok
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the #s didnt bother me til those with that advantage had to start talkin crap to others , boasting just being basic aholes.
if we had numbers like that we'd be steam rollin also so #s isnt an issue as much as arrogance.
how ever i do think game should be set up to allow only a certain advantage, when that point is reached then either limit game login availability or force the extras to join other side with least #s.
i say this for all sides. and i know it doesnt sound fair or worth the cost of game etc.
but its does get rediculous you all have to agree
Sadist
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Agree with Hajo on this one. Got 14 kills in 3 runs and never broke a sweat. Thanks rookies. ;)
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Yep, landed 7 in an F4F-4 without a rearm.
Thanks Rooks!
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I was at roughly 25k for the Knights while guarding over 51.
I turned to go to 53 to help defend them.
On the way there I ran across something wierd.
a 60+ person rook mission. 40-50 of them were b26's in a tight formation.
Most fun I've had since I came back to AH. Got 9 of those B-26s and a poor Tempest:D Nothing like hi-alt jug patrols and 3400 rounds of goodness.
Can't wait for next RJO!
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DoctorYo --"payback for combined Bish Knit cowardice when they had their glory days of 150 150 vs 50..."--
When was that, Doc? And by your definition, that makes Sunday nights Rook horde debacle cowardice, doesn't it.
--"now the tables turn for only one day and the naysayers come out of the wood work..."--
You mean one day a week, every week for the last six months. Sunday used to be our Squad Nite. We've pretty much given that up. There's nothing we can possibly do, so what's the point.DoctorYo
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if only fuel burn wasnt so high in the MA
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Sheese fellas..
I had a good time....
I was a little overwhelmed by 320 +Rooks on at once...
Nice RJO turn out...
The best I guess I ever saw...
Thanks Rooks it was fun
Gatr
81st
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The small maps suffer from fields too far apart as well. They should add some more fields and move them closer together. Every freaking field is at least a sector flight. That sucks, and when the horde starts that sucks even more.
It was targer rich, I just wish I didn't have to fly so far to reach them.
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I think maybe if Bish and Knits got more organzied we wouldnt be hearing all the crying taking place here.
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I think maybe if Bish and Knits got more organzied we wouldnt be hearing all the crying taking place here.
Let the flaming begin lol.
More organised how? Getting more than 300 people on for a reset. WTF cares! Resets are a waste of time and take no more than having more people on at one time than any other country.
I love being outnumbered, I hate flying 5 mins to get there.
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putting the fields closer together would fix it.
lazs
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I can hear the horde straters already - "but then our horde would be less effective." lolh!
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This is a great thread for you Lazs, perhaps the best place and proof positive about your "Number=reset" posits.
Several people are piping in about how they dominated in their own little part of the map. Yet, in spite of these heroic deeds, the rooks still won the day. I'm amazed, with all these prolific killers stalking the skies for them, that the rooks still managed to pull it off.
I switched sides to nits(for me, being part of the steamrolling horde holds no appeal) and didn't get to witness any of these fell deeds first hand. All I managed to see were hopelessly outnumbered, albeit very game, knights. We all went down fighting, but we went down.
Hats off to the FB's. Hopelessly outnumbered and getting mercilessly vulched, they were trying to organize and take bases in order to keep the nits alive...now that was heroic.
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Ahhhhh........Great Thread. As the XO of the 339th, a Rook P-51D squad. I was very glad to hear that so many others (Knit Bish) had a great time!
You can be sure that kicking butt was fun on the Rook side of the pond. Vox & Type was full of giggles and well-dones!
The Knits and Bish should try it!! What would be wrong with a KJO or even a....BJO?? Oops! Maybe we can't say that on this board :)
JK guys. W/O you we wouldn't have anyone to fight!
For those who stayed and fought heroically for their countries and to those that changed countries to keep the battle raging, a huge
To those (Rooks, Knits, & Bish) that taunted on channel 1 and to those that logged in disgust........Well what can be said.
RJO's & Rooks - Rock!!
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You can be sure that kicking butt was fun on the Rook side of the pond.
LOL - Does it really take 2 to 1 odds for the Rooks to kick but.
The Knits and Bish should try it!! What would be wrong with a KJO or even a....BJO??
Personally I hate when the knights have the greater numbers. I can't stand fighting my own countrymen for kills. I like when the countries are close in numbers. The furballs are better and the over all gameplay is better. But most people need the horde to survive.
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Originally posted by dracon
Ahhhhh........Great Thread. As the XO of the 339th, a Rook P-51D squad. I was very glad to hear that so many others (Knit Bish) had a great time!
You can be sure that kicking butt was fun on the Rook side of the pond. Vox & Type was full of giggles and well-dones!
The Knits and Bish should try it!! What would be wrong with a KJO or even a....BJO?? Oops! Maybe we can't say that on this board :)
JK guys. W/O you we wouldn't have anyone to fight!
For those who stayed and fought heroically for their countries and to those that changed countries to keep the battle raging, a huge
To those (Rooks, Knits, & Bish) that taunted on channel 1 and to those that logged in disgust........Well what can be said.
RJO's & Rooks - Rock!!
Been there..done that..BORING. Of course I find it boring because I can't get kills with lots of friendlies around :D.
Just curious...if the Knits and Bish really feel outnumbered, why not start a whine fest here like the Rooks did? It seems to have worked for them (and people say whining doesn't pay off :D).
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LOL, You guys :D
Odds doesn't make it fun. The COOPERATIVE effort makes it fun! Haven't you heard?? There is No "I" in Team. Sheesh!
I totally enjoy watching my squaddies and countrymen get kills. That's cool! Hmm....Maybe the difference between the Rooks and the Knits & Bish is starting to showing through here.
NoBaddy, You crack me up Dooode! You're, You're so Bad! LOL!
Dracon
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For those who stayed and fought heroically for their countries and to those that changed countries to keep the battle raging, a huge
that is what it's all about
GoZilla 81st
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I totally enjoy watching my squaddies and countrymen get kills.
Yeah thats why I log on lolh.
Maybe the difference between the Rooks and the Knits & Bish is starting to showing through here.
Yeah it is. Rooks hate a fair fight lolh, dont fly under 25k and need 2 to 1 odds to cap a base. :D Personally if I logged on and saw 2 to 1 odds in favor of my country I would log off. That is no fun.
The COOPERATIVE effort makes it fun! Haven't you heard??
COOPERATIVE effort lolh, no I havn't heard. You might as well just play offline, you'll get the same affect. Tell me what do the last 30 guys do after the first 30 already flatened the place lolh. Cooperativly fly around with thier thuimb up their prettythang lolh.
I'm in it for the fight, dropping bombs just got too easy and too monotenouse. Bores the crap out of me, especially in the horde.
OK, OK enough pissing on you reset weenies all.
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--''For those who stayed and fought heroically for their countries and to those that changed countries to keep the battle raging, a huge
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We've stayed an fought heroically every Sunday for the last 6 months as the RJO got more and more lopsided. My standard in-squad joke has been "that which doesn't kill us makes us stronger" and there's some truth, because on more evenly matched nights we do quite well.
But squad ops against +100 is simply an excercise in frustration, as I'm sure the 'heroic' FreeBirds will tell you, and your patronizing doesn't make it any more fun. Sticking around just gives you guys something to shoot at, for which I'm sure we have your resounding respect.
But you guys are right, I can always take 20 minutes to climb a Jug to 30k and cherry pick Rooks, without worrying about my Squadies. Boy, that sounds like fun. [pffft]
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Got an issue?....here's a tissue.
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The real irony of it all is that those who left the MA and logged onto the CT arena because of swarms overwhelming the place immediately formed up and began swarming against bases there (3 or 4 to 1 odds vulching). The funny part is ... they weren't really all that good at it. I think one ... maybe two ... bases were captured in all. I died quite a bit but I took quite a few with me.
At one point the opposition had my base capped and was vulching with 1 in 3 augering doing it. The VH had been left intact so I upped a Flakker ... better odds, even with the vulchers auging. Alas my turret was knocked out fairly quickly but not before someone finally managed to put the required damage into the VH to pop it. So rather than tower out and give the kill cheaply, I decided to hang in there and at least make the bastages waste more ammo and ord to kill me. And waste it they did. You'd have figured my smoking/crippled FP was the biggest threat there was to their grab for real estate. At least a half dozen planes (maybe more) circled and made passes with their guns (eventually taking out the treads). An SBD made five or six passes with bombs still slung on it's wings. Musta been over a couple of thousand rounds fired at me and a couple of sticks of bombs that missed their mark. After about five or six minutes someone finally puts a bomb on target. ROFL ...
In the tower, finally ... I see there's still a couple of planes passing back and forth ... shooting the dirt runway. Field guns were all popped. Then I see a low C-47 that looks like it's going to drop troops down the length of the runway. I figure .. wth ... it may be the ultimate futile act of defiance (we all know what generally happens to anyone upping even a "lightly" vulched strip) ... I up and figure I can at least pop a troop or two if they're being dropped straight down the runway.
They were dropped alright .... at about 50-100 ft off the deck - *plop* x10. Heh. The goonie driver augs right behind me. I make it up as one of the fighters turns to get me. He makes a joust attempt and falls down in flames. I'm laughing so hard I aug myself.
Yup ... sure am glad players left the MA cause it was too MAish .. then brought it with them. Eh .. it's all good. Sometimes the CT really does need some comic relief to keep it from getting stuffy. :D
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But you guys are right, I can always take 20 minutes to climb a Jug to 30k and cherry pick Rooks, without worrying about my Squadies. Boy, that sounds like fun. [pffft]
Dano ... 30K would make you co-alt with most rooks. You'll need to climb out to 40-45K to get any cherry-pickin' done.
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Originally posted by dracon
There is No "I" in Team. Sheesh!
No, but theres a ME
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Originally posted by dracon
NoBaddy, You crack me up Dooode! You're, You're so Bad! LOL!
Dracon
Glad to be helpful :aok .
I can remember the early days of Air Warrior, when the arena limit was 32. The Warhawks would put up 20+ on Sunday nights and pound the livin' crud outta the 3 or 4 Az and 3 or 4 Cz that were up. Then spend the next week patting themselves on the back and telling everyone how great organization was.
Enjoy.:lol :lol
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I keep reading this Bish-Knit as though we were the same. Everyone knows the Knits go it solo and the Bish-Rooks spoon almost every night.
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Dano ... 30K would make you co-alt with most rooks. You'll need to climb out to 40-45K to get any cherry-pickin' done.
Oh please, the theme of this whine has been done to death.
Every team has it's share of alt-peeps.
I just left the A27 area because my 11k pony was being deluged by BnZing nits in an assortment of planes, including but not limited to: p47, 262, 190's.
Bish are no different.... there's alt monks on all sides. Actually whining about one side doing it more than the other is foolish and unfounded.***
*** Back to your originally scheduled thread.
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yawn
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closer fields like festers map make the best, most fun maps and....
The country with the numbers "wins" the war... not only that but... the country with the numbers dominates the map.
They don't allways come out the best on K/D... most are lemmings. The country with 20% more numbers dominates... when their numbers drop so does their domination... If they can keep their numbers up long enough.... they "win the war".
Logged on last nite.. the rooks were circling every knit field (so were the bish) both had like 20% more numbers than the knits. They were congradulating themselves on their skill and stratigic "skill". 40 min later the numbers evened out... both bish and rooks lost ground and domination... plenty of fields not capped for rooks to take off from.
there is your "strat".... that is all there is too it... it is a crutch for those who are unable to fight... get enough numbers and your clumsy suicide attempts look like "strat"... you are part of the team instead of just an unskilled virtual pilot who fears any real fighting.
lazs
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And to add to laz,
The last two maps had fields a sector or more than a sector apart. No fields were less than a sector apart. There were no furballs, yes there were large amounts of enemy cons overwhelming anything that came up against it, but there were no furballs.
This map on the other hand has some sectors where there are 3 fields in one sector. (i.e. middle of the map) This created some great fights last night, even when the fuel was porked by the suicide dweebs. The strat weenies could pursue there ever preciouse reset while people who just wanted to fight could fight. Any map where the fields are a sector or more apart will increase the likelyhood of the horde mentality. Now I'm not saying all bases have to be close, buit I think Fester and Mindano proved again that an even apllication of close bases and bases a sector apart works well for everyone.
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I can't b'leve I read this whole frikkin thread. Now my head hurts.:rolleyes:
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Arlo --"The real irony of it all is that those who left the MA and logged onto the CT arena because of swarms overwhelming the place immediately formed up and began swarming against bases there (3 or 4 to 1 odds vulching)."--
No, Arlo, that's not the irony. At the height of the CT fighting the numbers were EXACTLY even... 34 to 34. That's simply allocation of resources. The Irony is that you guys couldn't mount a defense against even numbers.
Steve --"Oh please, the theme of this whine has been done to death. Every team has it's share of alt-peeps."--
No Steve, being an alt monkey was suggested as the solution to more Rooks Sunday nights than Bish and Knits put together.
Lazs --"Logged on last nite.. the rooks were circling every knit field (so were the bish) both had like 20% more numbers than the knits."--
Don't know what game you were playing, Lazs. Despite being outnumbered by the Rooks, around 190 to 180. the Knits were taking the Rooks east coast -- 27, 28, 32, and 33 -- and we still hold them this morning --- despite STILL being slightly outnumbered.
Mars01 --"The strat weenies could pursue there ever preciouse reset while people who just wanted to fight could fight."--
Against +100 on a small map, neither can do either.
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No Steve, being an alt monkey was suggested as the solution to more Rooks Sunday nights than Bish and Knits put together.
I must have misunderstood Dano. By the time I logged on, even being an alt monkey wouldn't have helped the nits. They were basically being mauled before they could alt. I switched to nits to avoid being part of the mob and received a gang rape or 3 myself. :D
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Originally posted by 11dano11
No, Arlo, that's not the irony. At the height of the CT fighting the numbers were EXACTLY even... 34 to 34. That's simply allocation of resources. The Irony is that you guys couldn't mount a defense against even numbers.
What's with the defensiveness, Dano old buddy? You should know better. I found it rather funny. The swarms did as much damage to themselves as they did others. But that's not the point here anyhoo. The IRONIC part was players logging from one arena because of the swarm/gang only to do it themselves at the CT. Silly gits gritching about it in the forums later.
Oh ... and you know as well as I that pulling up the roster to see numbers parity for a second doesn't mean squat. The 4-1 base vulch gang thang is just what it is ... even with numbers suddenly even for a second. Don't use that to rationalize ... no need.
Hell ... I love you Damned Damned ... but this is funny.
:lol :D :rofl :aok
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Arlo --"But that's not the point here anyhoo. The IRONIC part was players logging from one arena because of the swarm/gang only to do it themselves at the CT. Silly gits gritching about it in the forums later."--
Arlo, try to buy a clue, ok? Swarming/ganging is not an issue. That's how bases get taken in the MA and we were after a base in the CT. Missions and/or hordes get sent against bases all the time. You either rally a defense, come up another base, go to another front, or whatever. No one I know has a problem with massive assualts (as some mention, whining about gangbangs is silly, because they're avoidable) and I have never, ever complained about massive assualts.
But when the Bish have 150 up, the Knits have 150 up and the Rooks have >>300<< up, there simply is no defense you can rally, no cavalry to call, no mission you can mount, not a dang thing you can do but stay very hi at the edge of the tide, pick off what you can and hope to land at a rear field before it gets over run by the swarm.
The Rooks had so many up that I suspect most couldn't find enme to shoot at, so what's left? Go pork rear fields. Oh goodie, there goes another option for us. What, take off from even further rear fields?
I checked the CT roster several times Sunday night, Arlo, specifically because of why I'd left the MA. The sides never varied by more than 4 or 5. If we outnumbered you >>AT A10<< it's because your countrymen were off doing something else, not because there were 40 Egyptians to 20 Israelis.
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11dano... read what i said. I said 20% the numbers were like 145 against the 180's .... when the numbers got evened out, like you say 180-190 (i don't consider 5% difference to be "numbers") then domination ended. If you are playing under the illussion that you can change the way the gameplay goes with a 20% difference in numbers then you simply need to get hit over the head with the numbers things a few dozen mor4e times for it to sink in. Not noticing is not the same as it not happening.
Ther is no strat other than numbers.
closer fields make for better gameplay.
lazs
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Now Now Children, this whole thread is a whine, has been a whine, and should cease to be a whine.
Fuggin Ball babies
Karaya
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::Chuckles::
Nothing like post RJO Whine Threads ;)
You get 1 night like every month or two and some folks just go to peices.
I enjoy the cooperative play of an RJO, I know some dont, but I dont fault them for it.
I had fun Sunday, and I found several really good fights. I even got a couple 1 v1 and 2v2 fights. My compliments to our advisaries that stayed and fought the difficult fight.
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WTG Grimm and Karaya 2..tell it like it is!
New thread...same whiners.
Every once in a while I come in and follow a few posts in here but I now realize it is only when I am suffering from huge lack of "wife ack" and need to "self punish" myself for past bad deeds.
Seems it only takes reading about 20 or so WHINE posts and I feel like my old self again.
As I am not Catholic, and don't have the ability to go to "confession", I can now plan to go out and do whatever I want, knowing full well I can return to my computer and read this forum and all is well again:)
Guess I have to thank all the whiners for that...even tho I do seem to feel a forum headache comming on...
:p
btw Karaya...who said you could cruise around in MY waters in ur little ship??? hmm???:lol
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Originally posted by 11dano11
Arlo, try to buy a clue, ok? Swarming/ganging is not an issue. That's how bases get taken in the MA and we were after a base in the CT. Missions and/or hordes get sent against bases all the time. You either rally a defense, come up another base, go to another front, or whatever. No one I know has a problem with massive assualts (as some mention, whining about gangbangs is silly, because they're avoidable) and I have never, ever complained about massive assualts.
But when the Bish have 150 up, the Knits have 150 up and the Rooks have >>300<< up, there simply is no defense you can rally, no cavalry to call, no mission you can mount, not a dang thing you can do but stay very hi at the edge of the tide, pick off what you can and hope to land at a rear field before it gets over run by the swarm.
The Rooks had so many up that I suspect most couldn't find enme to shoot at, so what's left? Go pork rear fields. Oh goodie, there goes another option for us. What, take off from even further rear fields?
I checked the CT roster several times Sunday night, Arlo, specifically because of why I'd left the MA. The sides never varied by more than 4 or 5. If we outnumbered you >>AT A10<< it's because your countrymen were off doing something else, not because there were 40 Egyptians to 20 Israelis.
*quizical look*
*shakes head*
Dano ... Dano ... Dano ... what's the deal here? You not reading me? We go back a ways but I gotta say that I'm surprised this is such a sensitive issue with you. If my opponent's style of play, tactics or even attitude in AH really bothered me I'd have hit the road a long time ago. As it is I could care less. I may point out some things I find amusing ... to friend, "foe" or stranger but I don't really tell anyone how to play nor do I find it necessary to explain my own actions within the game ... as you are now doing.
I know how the game is played. I know how the roster works. I also know the numbers on the bottom fluctuate from one side to the other and even then don't fully reflect the situation at all. The roster numbers at the bottom don't really mean all that much when Joe is sitting in a tower eating a pizza and Fred is milkrunning a base in bumfugopia because he knows his limitations and George as driving a tank to a spawnpoint to camp out and Jack is leading his own personal assault of A69 and can't understand why everyone else is so interested in protecting A96. But when the lapmap at the base I'm at looks like the territory ten miles around my plane has the measles ... that has a definate connotation.
Still, if I have a squadie or friend nearby and we feel like defending `gainst the horde (at least until the situation becomes totally futile ... sometimes after) we dive into it with gusto and have fun anyway. Hell, I find it funny as hell when a player will see it's "unbalanced" by five or six or so in the CT (where numbers are generally much lower than the MA) and have a holy cow on channel one about it.
As far as the huge difference between the Rooks logging on in record numbers and swarming the MA map and players logging onto the CT server and swarming the base I'm furballing from is concerned ... I don't see it as clearly as you do. If you think that leaves me short a clue, hey ... fine by me, too. But it appears the same excuse you're using to justify "massive assault tactics" works for the Rooks in the MA, as well. So bringing it up as a topic to complain about rang silly given the circumstances it ended up causing in the CT when those frustrated from "denial of service" fled there (in spite of your assertions otherwise).
Now let me return the clue favor, bro.
I flew `gyptian all last night. Your being all defensive like is even more curious now. What gives? ;)
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Karaya --"Now Now Children, this whole thread is a whine, has been a whine, and should cease to be a whine."--
Let me guess, Karaya. Yer a Rook. CAS. Yup, Rook.
Grimm --"You get 1 night like every month or two and some folks just go to peices."
That must be how often you get up, Grimm, cuz this has been going on, and getting worse, every Sunday night for about the past 6 months. We've pretty well kissed off our own Squad Night because of it.--"I enjoy the cooperative play of an RJO, I know some dont, but I dont fault them for it."--
Yeah, I just bet you enjoy it. It's not about cooperative play, Grimm. It's about straight out numbers.--"I had fun Sunday, and I found several really good fights. I even got a couple 1 v1 and 2v2 fights. My compliments to our advisaries that stayed and fought the difficult fight."--
Found a couple, did you? Way the heck back by our rear fields, no doubt. You should let us know where they are, cuz we never found any... at least none that stayed that way for any length of time.
And how patroniz... er... noble of you to compliment us, but it's a tad more than difficult. We've been hanging around, fighting the good - albeit hopeless - fight for months. But +100?? That's not a fight, that's simply being target drones for conga lines. I'm sure you guys love it, but Sunday after Sunday after Sunday, we've simply had enough. You can have the arena.
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Hmm, Dano has a point about Sunday Nights recently. For some reason, several large Rook Squads have Squad Night on Sunday Night, the COs know each other pretty well, and many times it turns into an unscheduled mini-RJO. All this stuff goes in cycles, and I'm sure this too will pass.
I sure hope the Damned don't change Squad Nights, our Squadrons have been squaring off on Sundays for years between AW and AH, and I have a lot of respect for those guys :). I remember a time in AW when the Cz really got their numbers run up (I think they were working with some RR Squads who came over on Sundays), and we were getting murdered! It was tough going and I can appreciate what the Damned is going through, but that too passed eventually :).
Hang tough Dano, the worm will turn ;).
Cya Up!
Dawg
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Arlo -- "Dano ... Dano ... Dano ... what's the deal here? You not reading me?"--
And you're not reading me, Arlo. I've been flying sims -- AW, WB and now AH -- since about '94. We used to love getting the Cz squads up for the occasional organized blowout every few months or so, just to piss off the Bz and Az.
And I don't mind numbers. Hell, the Knits are usually a bit outnumbered as it is, and I really think it's made us better because of it. Again, last night the Rooks averaged about 10 to 15 more players than us and we took four of their fields while I was up.
And I'm not telling anyone how to play. Gawd forbid. What I am telling you is that Knit (I can't speak for the Bish) regulars who come up Sunday nights are getting more and more frustrated with what has become a regularly scheduled avalanche. Heck, prior to last Sunday, I was with Toad. I could take my pony up, and by VERY carefully picking my fights, could land 5, 6, 7 kill sorites. Squad ops, on the other hand, are out of the question. But +100, where ya gonna pick a fight?.Still, if I have a squadie or friend nearby and we feel like defending `gainst the horde (at least until the situation becomes totally futile ... sometimes after) we dive into it with gusto and have fun anyway.
That's the point, Arlo. We don't have a choice anymore on Sunday night. You defend against the horde... which is totally futile... or you don't fly.
We have a saying in our squad. When it stops being fun, stop flying. Well, Sunday nights have stopped being fun, so more and more of us will find other things to do -- make it a training night, go to the CT, or watch a movie, whatever. And unfortunately, that will only make the Arena that much more lopsided.
The Rooks can do whatever they like. I'm just letting them know what the other side is increasingly thinking
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Now this is getting sickening.
Our squad moved to AH from AW just over two years ago and just by luck of the draw we ended up Rooks. We were DRAMATICALLY outnumbered for at least 18 of the last 24 months and spent MANY nights (not just Sunday or RJO nights) getting gang banged by vastly superior numbers by both Nit and Bish who were racing each other to reset us. It even got to the point where squads like the AKs moved over to even the odds a little bit and I salute Curly for this gesture.
The guys that started the RJO (BFD, Ghostdancer, Pyro, etc)saw a need for Rooks to pull together to get us out of the gang banging problem and as a country we have worked hard to foster a feeling of friendliness and comradarie so people would want to be Rooks. What do you know... it worked and FINALLY we have squads moving here because of the hard work put in by a few.
We spent WAY more time with lower numbers online that you Dano and I don't remember whining like this from the Rook camp so maybe you would be better off working to strengthen your own country rather than running from the MA when things got tough IMHO
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maybe now that the rooks are "established" all the squads that went rook to help them out should rotate back "home."
:D
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Originally posted by 11dano11
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Still, if I have a squadie or friend nearby and we feel like defending `gainst the horde (at least until the situation becomes totally futile ... sometimes after) we dive into it with gusto and have fun anyway.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------That's the point, Arlo. We don't have a choice anymore on Sunday night. You defend against the horde... which is totally futile... or you don't fly.
We have a saying in our squad. When it stops being fun, stop flying. Well, Sunday nights have stopped being fun, so more and more of us will find other things to do -- make it a training night, go to the CT, or watch a movie, whatever. And unfortunately, that will only make the Arena that much more lopsided.
Well ... you still didn't hear me but that's ok. Good luck dealing with this, bro. One man's unbearable burdon in one arena becomes their fight mantra in the next. Welcome to the CT.
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Originally posted by DEMAN
We were DRAMATICALLY outnumbered for at least 18 of the last 24 months and spent MANY nights (not just Sunday or RJO nights) getting gang banged by vastly superior numbers by both Nit and Bish who were racing each other to reset us.
Lol more BS! This thread has given me alot of laughs today. Thanks all. :D
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Originally posted by DipStick
Lol more BS! This thread has given me alot of laughs today. Thanks all. :D
Hmmm,DipStick...dont see you as being online before November 03...wonderin how you would know if this was BS or not??
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Originally posted by 11dano11
It's not about cooperative play, Grimm.
Dano, Your Killing me.... :)
Nothing better than to see the CAF being a thorn in the side of the Dammed. :) Best post Iv read in a long time.
(For those that dont know, the CAF and the Dammed have been traditional advisaries since AW DOS)
As Dawg had said, Sunday Squads have strong participation. Perhaps if the Dammed became a larger squad you could compete on more level playing feild. BTW, The CAF does not have a Sunday squadnight.
The RJO happens very occasionaly and not only a Sunday, It probably happens maybe 4 or 5 Sundays a year. But it does inspire alot of whines.
Sorry to upset you so
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The best best thing I remember during my tenure as CAF CO (Way back in AW DOS Days) was the streak of god knows how many warnights in a row where we whipped the Damned at their own game, and did it with glee.
Nice to see some things never change, including how much they cry about it.
Carry On :)
(Pun Intended)
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11dano11 whined:
But when the Bish have 150 up, the Knits have 150 up and the Rooks have >>300<< up, there simply is no defense you can rally, no cavalry to call, no mission you can mount, not a dang thing you can do but stay very hi at the edge of the tide, pick off what you can and hope to land at a rear field before it gets over run by the swarm.
The Rooks had so many up that I suspect most couldn't find enme to shoot at, so what's left? Go pork rear fields. Oh goodie, there goes another option for us. What, take off from even further rear fields?
I've fought the Damned for 9 years, from AW, across WB, and now into AH. And no doubt I'll be fighting them still 20 years hence in whatever game we have by then. And if there's one thing that's been constant so far regardless of time or game, it's that the Damned are a bunch of damned whiners.
You all know the Damned, that horde of innumerable dweebs who have something like 200 separate squads full to the gills in every arena and server of every online game in the world. I figure 1/2 of all online players world-wide are Damned. And what do they whine about? They whine when once every 5-6 weeks, for 1 night, in 1 arena of 1 game, THEY'RE the ones getting out-numbered for a change. Weep weep :rolleyes:
And when they're not whining about that, they're whining about how nobody holds still when they spend 20 minutes climbing into orbit, only to blow their 1 pass and run away. These are the guys who caused the P51 to be labeled the "runstang". These are the guys whose intentional bailing rather than face even a co-E fight made bailing such an anathema to all true warriors.
Gawd, I love Hating the Damned :D But I digress...
To the nits and bish:
This whole RJO thing is just evolution, folks. It's our response to changes in our environment. Because resets and the perks for them exist, naturally people try to do this. And for the 1st couple years of AH, it was almost always the Rooks getting the *****ty end of the stick. So we evolved. Many Rook squads got together and decided that once every 5-6 weeks, we'd bury the nits and/or bish for a change. And so far it's usually worked. Now the RJO is part of YOUR environment. You must either adapt to it or perish. But please do one or the other. Don't debase yourself by whining about it, especially because RJOs only happen about 1% of the total time the arena is active.
Whining about somethign that happens 1% of the time at most... :rofl:
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1 pilot in the CAF with a K/D over 2.0 and your kicking our butts?
Bartender... I'll have what they're drinking :aok
Coach
:rolleyes:
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RookieCAF --"we whipped the Damned at their own game, and did it with glee. Nice to see some things never change, including how much they cry about it."--
In your dreams, Rookie *GG*. Damned MkXX currently has a team K/D of 2.11 to the CAF 1.25. Don't know who you're shooting down, but it ain't usBullethead --''I've fought the Damned for 9 years, from AW, across WB, and now into AH. And no doubt I'll be fighting them still 20 years hence in whatever game we have by then. And if there's one thing that's been constant so far regardless of time or game, it's that the Damned are a bunch of damned whiners.
Really? Let's take an informal count. Of those here who flew in AW, how many were trained by someone from the Damned, cuz the Damned pretty much ran the AW Training. And how many Damned are currently trainers in AH? I know of 3, but there's prolly more, and there's not even a real training program yet. What have you contributed, Bullethead?--"These are the guys whose intentional bailing rather than face even a co-E fight made bailing such an anathema to all true warriors."--
You're a gawddam liar. Is that how you debate, Bulletbrain, by making crap up? Let me say that again, so it's clear. You are a liar.--"They whine when once every 5-6 weeks, for 1 night, in 1 arena of 1 game, THEY'RE the ones getting out-numbered for a change."--
Again, it's not every 5-6 weeks, it's every Sunday night, whether or not it's organised. We've logged on every Sunday for years and for the past several months there's 220, 230 or 250 Rooks up EVERY Sunday. Hitting 300 last Sunday was a real benchmark for you guys, and at that point it simply became ridiculous.
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Dano,
Sorry, We owned you guys in Warnights. Get over it already.
K/D means absolutely nothing, and you know it. You're just trying to baffle em with bull**** as the saying goes.
Training? Who cares. I learned from Bebop, Headhunter, and with all my squadmates. Some of your guys may be good sticks, but my squadmates are good people. We are a true squad, not a bunch of hired guns.
So why don't you just STFU.
(Or, You can just show your true colors and continue to ***** like the dweeb you are)
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And Dano, Coach,
FWIW We've always been the Cactus Air Force (CAF) and have never had to use any roman numeral. We're the same squad. We don't need or want 20 variants.
What does this say about you?
And Coach, I'm drinking Coffee, Black. I think you guys are the ones all liquored up.
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Originally posted by DamnedCoach
1 pilot in the CAF with a K/D over 2.0 and your kicking our butts?
Bartender... I'll have what they're drinking :aok
Coach
:rolleyes:
What are you the Coach of? Women's Field Hockey? Please continue to squirm as the whines flow from your glass to your brain. What the f*** does a K/D ratio of a pilot have to do with anything? So, you fly that Tiffie over a vulched field. BulletHead, pass the pin, Coach's chest needs it, and obviously he needs it somewhere else.
Karaya
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Originally posted by VWE
I keep reading this Bish-Knit as though we were the same. Everyone knows the Knits go it solo and the Bish-Rooks spoon almost every night.
been a bish for years. never once heard of any joint anything with rooks.
hap1
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Originally posted by RookieCAF
Dano,
Sorry, We owned you guys in Warnights. Get over it already.
K/D means absolutely nothing, and you know it. You're just trying to baffle em with bull**** as the saying goes.
Don't ever recall the Cactus air Force , ever owning me! and your right K/D doesn't mean squat!
Training? Who cares. I learned from Bebop, Headhunter, and with all my squadmates. Some of your guys may be good sticks, but my squadmates are good people. We are a true squad, not a bunch of hired guns.
we are a family, not a squad per say! some of our family are pretty good but it isn't our flying abilitys we like, its our friendships and our cloesness as a family. We support each other and help each other out in times of hardship and vice versa. And I don't know anyone that is hired! anyone that is Damned is Damned because he wanted to be, or the Damned asked him to be! so you need to back it up there a notch when you imply we are not a true squad! If one of our own gets down on his luck we gather money as a group and help pay his bills, we go the extra mile!
So why don't you just STFU.
This type of language shows the real side of most in Aces High, dweebishness
(Or, You can just show your true colors and continue to ***** like the dweeb you are)
what? you can type "STFU" but ya can't input other crap and have to use *****, how silly is that?
:D
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Originally posted by RookieCAF
And Dano, Coach,
FWIW We've always been the Cactus Air Force (CAF) and have never had to use any roman numeral. We're the same squad. We don't need or want 20 variants.
What does this say about you?
And Coach, I'm drinking Coffee, Black. I think you guys are the ones all liquored up.
Tell ya what Rookie, the Roman Numeral thingy is there because the flight sims we have all flown have never let any squad have more than a certian amount allowed, all be it 32 players, 64 players or what ever, so the only reason the roman numeral as you call it is there is because the games limitations, and if you could see how many times we as a squad have argued over it you would understand, but with AH2 this should all be fixed , but just because someone is in MKX, another in MKXX, and a third in MKXXX, don't think that anyone is better than the others because we are ALL DAMNED! as for what this says about us? it says we got alot of people in our family and we have one helluva family reunion! and if I recall , it was the CAF that started the trash talking about a squad, or wait that might have been Virage! :)
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nobody cares about some rjo.. nobody even knows it's happening except that the numbers are even more lopsided and the rooks act even more suicidal during it.
The "organization" isn't waht steamrollers fields... numbers are. An RJO with even numbers is nothing but a bunch of rooks dying. Any time one side gets 20% or better numbers it gains all the "strat".
EXcess lemmings pork fields and resources. Lemmings can be dangerous if you are at the bottom of the cliff they are jumping off.
Damn... it was fun when nobody cared.
lazs
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RookieCAF
If you aren't an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
DmdTorv
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SOMBODY PLEASE STOP THE MADDDDNESSSSS!!!
This thread should end NOW!!!!!
Or somone may say somthing they will regret...
One little RJO and look what happens....
Show some love fellas
Gatr :)
81st
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WAH WAH WAH Keep this thread Going!!! Cripple Fight!!!!!:D
MOVE THE BASES CLOSER ADD SOME MORE!
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Originally posted by lazs2
Lemmings can be dangerous if you are at the bottom of the cliff they are jumping off.
lazs
Definitely sig material.
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Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee!
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Rookie --"FWIW We've always been the Cactus Air Force (CAF) and have never had to use any roman numeral. We're the same squad. We don't need or want 20 variants. What does this say about you? "--
It says we're so liked and respected that we've grown beyond the confines of one squad. After all, the Damned have been a flight sim squadron since 1989. (http://www.damned.org/) Plus, we don't drop our retired members. "Once a Damned, always a Damned"Training? Who cares.
The hundreds of sim pilots with whom we've shared our knowledge and helped get up to speed in this game. Apparently, unlike some, we like having good competition rather than a sky full of baby seals.
But tell ya what, Rookie, we can settle this once and for all. How about a team fly off in the DA. 4v4?? 8v8?? If you honestly believe you guys can outfly us, let's find out.
Oh, and just as a side bet, you can take on Coach personally, 1v1. After all, he's just a girly vulture an' all *GGGG*
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Sweet!!!!!!! A Dance Off!!!!!!!
Make sure you guys post the time, so we can all come watch:D Unless I have to wash my hair or something.
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Wow... You guys are something else
Point Made : The Dammed are a bunch of whiners, in this thread in particular. Particularly about being outnumbered when they are one of largest squads in the world.
Responce: We have a better K/D, We have a couple guys that are trainers, Lets settle this by a duel, ect.....
I think maybe you need to do more flying and less whinning. Its just a game, no need to get your undies in a bundle.
I bow to your superior whining skills ;)
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Can't wait until the next RJO. It should be a blast.
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BTW, If you feel your honor has been comprimised by this, Feel free to take it to Email.
Mine is included in my Sig line.
::shakes head:: Childish.....
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Look's like the RJO acomplished a win in the propaganda arena, by striking fear into the heart of some of the nits and Bish, I was in a squad op when punisher flew into our "Tight buff formation" He cried all the way to the turf, I
him for his effort but we all know when its RJO nite LOOK OUT! Here we come, It has become popular for a reason Fun and Teamwork make our AH time a blast for us :D
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This duel will be fun. (http://www.damned.org/images/title.jpg)
Damned MKX
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nothing like a little good old fashioned hate stretching back to the past century.
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Grimm --"BTW, If you feel your honor has been comprimised by this, Feel free to take it to Email."--
Why? Yer boys Rookie and Bullethead like talkin' trash about our squad, I figured they'd be eager to back up the big talk. Guess not. I don't know what an email is gonna solve.I think maybe you need to do more flying and less whinning.
We're up every night. We'll be sure to let you guys know where we are.
Elk --"It has become popular for a reason Fun and Teamwork make our AH time a blast for us"--
Fun, teamwork and 300 planes, Elk. Yeah, I just bet it's a blast.
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Sign me up for the DA thingy Coach... and grimm you can fly as a tail gunner. :aok
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i love these terms:
alt monkey: what's a fellow supposed to do? stay low and be an easy target? altitude is life...every pilot should know this. what busness of yours is it to put a ceiling on anyone's fun?
dweeb: anyone sitting in front of a computer for hours flying a simulator is a dweeb...we are all pots and kettles of the same color
spit dweeb, la7 dweeb...ect. : we are not all aces, and if i have to get in a spit to kill you i will. why should i grab a lesser plane? secondly every plane has it's weakness, find it, exploit it, and quit with the dweeb talk.
runstang, or any term used to describe a plane leaving the area: ever run out of ammo? fuel? ever want to exit a two or even three on one?...ever turn fight a p-51? here is a giant clue...some planes don't turn fight. extending is another reason to "run." some planes need a certain amount of distance between them and foe to even be able to think about turning back on them.
if we could learn to act like a community even being on opposite sides this could be that much more fun to play. sitting here complaining doesn't do anyone here aces high any good, it just creates rifts. yes we love to have a nemisis, but not the kind that complains like a little girl [apologies to the women of aceshigh]
i hope you all can understand where i am coming from. i bet there will be some of you that think i'm nuts...it's the guys who think i'm nuts AND understand where i'm coming from, that i want to hang with. why can't we all get along?
p.s. to date, 3 yrs[i think], never have rooks joined with knights or bish
GoZilla 81st [squad mate of the CO's of the RJO on Sunday]
cheers, salute, and see yas in the skies!
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Tell ya what Rookie, :)... Snipped
TC,
We have had over the set limit, had a second squad (The filthy fifth) but we never were anything other than CAF. We don't need to say anything else. We know who we are..
If one of our own gets down on his luck we gather money as a group and help pay his bills, we go the extra mile!
I don't doubt what you're saying. My Brothers and Sisters in My Squad gave me back my life. Its a story I won't share here, but my email is valid.
I could care less whatever you wish to call me, dweeb, whatever. I know who I am, and if you want to judge me on one post, go for it. Anyone that knows me from the old days (I have never flown AH that actively, and my last real active period was in AW Dos 1.5-ish) will tell you otherwise. Dano know me, He may not like me, but he won't call me a dweeb.
And the **** stuff is the filter on the board if you haven't figured it out. Apparantly we need to be protected from bad words here. Glad you weren't on the 666th etal or GEnie 870.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Torvald
RookieCAF
If you aren't an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
DmdTorv
Are you related to SARGENT YORK? (My Squaddies will get this little joke).. Torv, If you don't know of what you're speaking, keep your mouth shut.
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hahaha roofer panties bunching:D
alt monkey: what's a fellow supposed to do? stay low and be an easy target? altitude is life...every pilot should know this. what busness of yours is it to put a ceiling on anyone's fun?
Altitude is for the weak and outnumbered!
dweeb: anyone sitting in front of a computer for hours flying a simulator is a dweeb...we are all pots and kettles of the same color
Yes we are, according to all the people I know who don't play this game.:D
runstang, or any term used to describe a plane leaving the area: ever run out of ammo? fuel? ever want to exit a two or even three on one?...ever turn fight a p-51? here is a giant clue...some planes don't turn fight. extending is another reason to "run." some planes need a certain amount of distance between them and foe to even be able to think about turning back on them.
It's not the guys that run out of ammo/fuel and RTB that give the runstang it's bad name or even the extending for that matter. It's the guys that make one or two passes, blow it and run for their lives. I have the most respect for people that fly the fast planes and aren't afraid of mixing it up in a turn fight. Fk the 51 can out turn a spit over 267 nkts/mph. This game is about working the other guy over with everything you've got. If all you got is diving for the deck and runnin then the runstang name applies. Crap I was turn fightn in my La7 with an A6 the other night. What a blast!! and when you actually win the battle you learn a little more about your favorite ride and it feels great!
if we could learn to act like a community even being on opposite sides this could be that much more fun to play. sitting here complaining doesn't do anyone here aces high any good, it just creates rifts. yes we love to have a nemisis, but not the kind that complains like a little girl [apologies to the women of aceshigh]
Does me a lot of good, :D . Keep a good sense of humor and this sh$t is hysterical. Don't take it so seriouse. Enjoy the ribbing and get in some ribs of your own. For god sakes we are all fighter pilots. lolh
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We otta gather all the threads from past RJO nite whines and put them in one place .... and call it the repetition thread . same whine, same place ... see ya next time .
Remember it was the constant low Rook Numbers that brought on the RJO's .. ITs the Knights and Bishops Fault for this in the 1st place . :rofl
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Heh. Bunch of guys wastin' their breath.
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Originally posted by 11dano11
It says we're so liked and respected that we've grown beyond the confines of one squad.
Oh, and just as a side bet, you can take on Coach personally, 1v1. After all, he's just a girly vulture an' all *GGGG*
Dano,
We don't drop our members, even when they drop out for awhile. I'm not going to go into my story here, but I will say my Squad, My Brothers and Sisters, Helped me get my life back. They were there for me when I needed help. Once a CAF, Always a CAF.
I don't get the "Grown beyond the confines" comment. We have been over the limit too, but we don't need a roman numeral to make the world know how many of us there are. Thats just plain arrogant, and self centered. the CAF is one.
We like good competition too, but we like competition, not watching someone run away everytime, all the time. No one loses their life in a game, and I can understand not engaging at times, but blowing one pass and running 10 sectors can't be fun, and thats why we play the game. Especially in the main arena. In a Scenario or Warnight type situation, obviously lives count. And Stats never meant a blessed thing to me.
No dueling for me, I haven't flown online seriously since 98 or so, and frankly, I'm not that much of a gamer anymore. Don't even have a flight stick. I have other things I like to do now, But I'm still CAF and I'm sure someone else can cornhole Coach for me.
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Why? Yer boys Rookie and Bullethead like talkin' trash about our squad, I figured they'd be eager to back up the big talk. Guess not. I don't know what an email is gonna solve.
If you had any honor we wouldn't have to call you on it now would we? And there's nothing like a good rivalry anyway, Think Yankees/Red Sox , Vikings/Packers, Giants/Dodgers.
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Originally posted by mars01
Altitude is for the weak and outnumbered!
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry that is as far as i got...laughing too hard to continue
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"Why? Yer boys Rookie and Bullethead like talkin' trash about our squad, I figured they'd be eager to back up the big talk. Guess not. I don't know what an email is gonna solve."
You're the one crying in your Cheerios Dano. I've been "Big talking" as well, keep it right here my child. Yeah, I'll look forward to the duel as well. Big time.
Karaya
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sorry that is as far as i got...laughing too hard to continue
:D Mission accomplished:D
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Heya Rookie,
I not really judging you, and if you took it as me calling you a dweeb , I didn't mean it that way! I was calling the abbrivated letters dweebishness.
for the most part I have never had any bad feelings toward anyone in your squad, and have made sort of online friends with 1 or 2 of them. I just don't see why the squad bashing had to start! I have been flying in online sims myself since '95 on AW,WB,FA,TK/TR and AH and I probably have ran across you somewhere in that time but it is hard to remember all the handles , tail #'s, callsigns or what have you.
As for the RJO, I could give a care about that, I am the one that asked my squad to try out the CT, we didn't leave because we couldn't compete! last sunday evening. I just wanted something different, and the Damned joined me in the CT at my request.
You made it sound as if "The Damned" was nothing but a bunch of hired guns / type people that we have a massed, and not a true squad, well it's not like that. I have only been Damned since 98 or 99, but I know we are more than a bunch of dweebs flying some online flight sim / game. Hell, a few of our guys actualy fly over seas to visit the ones on the other side of the big water! or fly in from all over just to visit some of us that can't fly or maybe disabled.
This whole thread is good in a way to get some comraderie going, but no one should trash talk anothers squad over something so silly.
As for the board filter, I don't think I have ever ran into that problem, I usually will log or calm down before I get to typing or saying cuss words.
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TC,
OK, Cleared up. I don't judge people I do know, much less those I don't, and don't take kindly to people who do, so thats all cool then.
The squad bashing is part of the game, Its kinda lost now, which is sad, I don't want to sing "Kumbaya" with you, I want to kill you. On the board and in the skys (Virtually, not in reality). Don't know if you know Hardrock or Twist, but I enjoyed hanging with those guys when I met em, but would still online, on the boards or the skies, I'd still get a little venom spewing :) You guys just rub us the wrong way, Its OK, really :)
The hired guns thing is probably a little oversimplified, I never meant it to sound quite that harsh, but sometimes the "dicta" you guys seem to follow in the air, and the group whining on the boards makes it easy to categorize. Don't take this wrong, I'm not retracting anything, but hopefully I've clarified myself a little as to exactly why I think you're a bunch of alt monkey runstanging crybabies :aok
I've been CAF since 8/21/94 and alot of us have been friends online for a couple years previously, so we also are not a bunch of newbie mouthy dweebs. We have new members to be sure, but we try to maintain the same culture and spirit we had then. "We may not be the greatest, but we'll do this together"..
If you want to know the quality of my Squadmates, Feel free to email me. Its valid in my profile. I'm not kidding.
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Hey, you know I shot down OddCAF in his run90 last night... wasn't runnin just vulchin, though he only got 2 passes. :D
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WTG, He needs a little Humility ;)
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You know you (and Bullethead) were the two arnold-apes who came here and started trash taking. You insulted my squad and insulted my friends. Well, I come to these boards already wearing my asbestos underware and am sure not afraid of the heat. Now, I've been playing on-line sims for about 6-8 months now, first as a bish then as a knit, and by and large, got a lot of respect for my killers/victims even those in the CAF. But when folks come on here and start trash talking, then they get what they deserve.
And is "...shut your mouth..." the best you can do? I mean really, what kinda flame is that? Now if it would have been me, I would of said something like this...
On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.
But thats just me...
Anyway and I patiently await your next reply.
DmdTorv
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Originally posted by RookieCAF
TC,
OK, Cleared up. I don't judge people I do know, much less those I don't, and don't take kindly to people who do, so thats all cool then.
The squad bashing is part of the game, Its kinda lost now, which is sad, I don't want to sing "Kumbaya" with you, I want to kill you. On the board and in the skys (Virtually, not in reality).
I can assure you the feeling is mutual
Don't know if you know Hardrock or Twist, but I enjoyed hanging with those guys when I met em, but would still online, on the boards or the skies, I'd still get a little venom spewing :)
Yep I know HR and Twist, not many fights with Twist but quite a many with / against HR and we still say hello when we see each other online but we still give each other a run for the money!
You guys just rub us the wrong way, Its OK, really :)
well, I can't says that ya'll rub me the wrong way, I wouldn't let ya rub anything a part of my own body :D
The hired guns thing is probably a little oversimplified, I never meant it to sound quite that harsh, but sometimes the "dicta" you guys seem to follow in the air, and the group whining on the boards makes it easy to categorize. Don't take this wrong, I'm not retracting anything, but hopefully I've clarified myself a little as to exactly why I think you're a bunch of alt monkey runstanging crybabies :aok
hehe, if you say so, but we think the same toward the CAF :rofl
I've been CAF since 8/21/94 and alot of us have been friends online for a couple years previously, so we also are not a bunch of newbie mouthy dweebs. We have new members to be sure, but we try to maintain the same culture and spirit we had then. "We may not be the greatest, but we'll do this together"..
glad to hear it, we The Damned will do its best together as always to give your squad the most frustrating fun time in the skys from now on :aok
If you want to know the quality of my Squadmates, Feel free to email me. Its valid in my profile. I'm not kidding.
I am not doubting you:)
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Torv,
Sorry, 6 to 8 Months? I have devoted more time to my squad and the games I played (I don't do AH, Haven't flown online in almost 5 years regularly) to take any greif from a newb who has no real concept of what its like to be with a group of friends for years and years.
So excuse me if I don't give a flying leap what you think. I respect Dano, Snowman, and the guys who have been at this for awhile and know where I'm coming from even if they don't agree.
If you want flames, you're not gonna get it here. Too much hand holding and PC (Not computer PC) to really feel some hate. You'd run home crying to mommy if you ever had to venture forth on the mailing lists and BB's of days gone by.
So, In short, Have a nice day.
Feel free to insult me back, I've been flamed by the best. I'm still here.
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TC,
Peace. Nothing more needs to be said, but feel free to reign in Torv. He seems to be tripping all over his own hate ;)
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It all started with Dano complaints about being out numbered, which is ironic coming from the Juggernaut of a squad like the Dammed. Many folks called him on that. I found it kinda funny.
Dont get confused about good natured squad rivalry and verbal sparing. Its not a personal thing. Both the Dammed and the CAF are filled with many very good quality people.
Do you Dammed remember when Buzz Passed? I personaly sent him encouragment and prayers on behalf of the CAF. Later I was there as a reprsenative of the CAF when the Dammed payed him respects in the game.
DmdJordi stepped forward When Jordi hosted CON, the CAF was there! we even awarded Jordi with a small gift for his efforts.
Rookies story is his own, But His Squadmates stepped up several times when he nearly left this world. We are his brother. Its good to here that the Dammed look after there own as well.
There are alot of good people in both squads.
all that said, I get a kick out of the Dammed Whining about being out numbered... You guys kill me ;)
Dammed Runners ;)
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So does this mean the "Dance Off" is cancelled?:D
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So, let me get this straight, because I haven't been playing this particular game (AH that is) for very long, I'm not aloud to come to the defense of my squad or of a friend? Isn't that part of what being a friend is all about? Some of the guys in the Damned I have known for years. Does that count?
None of my posts asked for your respect, respect is earned. Even a newb like me knows that.
Sorry, if my replys seemed hateful to you, they were not intended as such. Just playful banter. While i may be a newb when it comes to online sims, I have been flying since the days of Lucas' Battle Hawks 1942:eek: The 6-8 months refers to my discovery of Aces High. I heard of the other games (WB, etc) but was not a fan of buy a game then pay to play.
Infact, when I first started playing AH, I was a bish, and stayed a bish for several months, not even knowing that friends of mine (in the Damned) were flying and shooting me down, I knew they played on-line games, just never thought it was AH. Boy was I surprised when I found out.
I've never hated anyone in this game, hell we all share the common bond of flying and fighting in WW2 sims. I have never blamed the guy who shot me down or the follow knit who didn't give me a check 6. I always figured that if I got shot down I made the mistake or blew my SA. And Like you said dying free and it doesn't really hurt.
Oh, and lets leave my mom outta this, shes really scary when she gets mad.
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A few of us gave CT a try as a last resort. There were already 60 or 70 people there, which should say volumes. It should I guess. Care to elaborate?
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Originally posted by mars01
So does this mean the "Dance Off" is cancelled?:D
Not that I am aware of mars, heck seeing how we made the #1 mosted wanted list on the CUF's Slate of Hate List aka The CUF Hunting List, you would think that they really want to shoot us all down ;)
but if them CUF's want to forfiet well, we will understand, hard for a CUF to defeat a Dammed, er I mean Damned, heck Grimm's spelling done starting to wear on me, now look at what he has caused!
:D
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Rookie --"I don't get the "Grown beyond the confines" comment. We have been over the limit too, but we don't need a roman numeral to make the world know how many of us there are. Thats just plain arrogant, and self centered. the CAF is one."--
What's arrogant about it? We want more guys in the squad than is allowed, so we form other squads under the Damned title so that everyone knows they're still basically in the same squad. They're names to differentiate the groups. So? What's arrogant about that?We like good competition too, but we like competition, not watching someone run away everytime, all the time. No one loses their life in a game,
Who's whining now? From my earliest days in the Damned our philosophy has been that in a combat flight sim, our goal is to work together as a team, kill the enme and then to get ourselves and our buddies home alive. Our accumulated K/D attests to the fact that we do just that. Furballing for the sake of furballing is boring.Nothing more needs to be said, but feel free to reign in Torv. He seems to be tripping all over his own hate
Fair enough. I assume you'll do the same with Bullethead.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
heck Grimm's spelling done starting to wear on me, now look at what he has caused!
:D
Its my Spelling that is right, its the rest of the world that has it wrong
Grimm - failed penmenship, vocabulary, spelling and grammar in school - CAF
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Originally posted by Slash27
A few of us gave CT a try as a last resort. There were already 60 or 70 people there, which should say volumes. It should I guess. Care to elaborate?
well there is nothing to elaborate, if you have read the other 84+ post to this thread you would have noticed, that I asked my squad for something different for a change instead of beating down baby seal rooks from there 20k alt ventures over our Knight Homeland and asked if they would join me in the CT arena:)
and that is that!:aok
we are now awaiting for the CUF to give us a time when they would like for this squad duel to take place
but seems a few of you want to keep this thread going with irrelevant postings like this!:rolleyes:
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Grimm --"Its my Spelling that is right, its the rest of the world that has it wrong"--
LOL!!! Now how can anyone be angry at an attitude like that. Good on ya, Grimm *GG*
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Torv,
I didn't say you weren't allowed , just said your opinion doesn't mean a thing to me. Just to be clarify. I'm glad you are loyal and quick to step in with your friends, even if they are misguided :)
I'll leave your mom out of it from here, OK :)
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Well,
Iv got a message going to see if anyone in the CAF is interested in a little duel.
I can not for the life of me see what it would prove, But it still might be fun.
We could instead settle for a battle of Whits!
Do the Damned (note correct spelling) know anything of Iocaine Powder??
Grimm - learning to spell so I aint ignant - CAF ;)
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
heck Grimm's spelling done starting to wear on me, :D
I sometimes spell check his posts on our board. I usually don't correct em unless its in a thread title. Guess its just the Virgo in me. *sigh*
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Originally posted by 11dano11
Fair enough. I assume you'll do the same with Bullethead.
He's our loose cannon, hence the handle :)
Seriously, I still don't get the Mk(insert Roman Numeral here) thing, but if it works for you all, so be it. It just makes one seem detached from the rest (In my opinion) and know it would not work for our squad.
How many old time squadrons still around? I miss the DiKtAtOrS ;)
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Originally posted by Grimm
Well,
Iv got a message going to see if anyone in the CAF is interested in a little duel.
I can not for the life of me see what it would prove, But it still might be fun.
Well seeing how we on the CAF's most wanted list of hate , it would either inspire the CAF to get a chance at killing a whole lot of damned and beat us out our own demise or would give the Damned bragging rights if we were the victor in slaughtering the CAF and and don't forget it would be FUN :p
We could instead settle for a battle of Whits!
Do the Damned (note correct spelling) know anything of Iocaine Powder??
I'm sure the Damned would probably take ya up on this match up as well, heck wes gots som highly intelectual flyers amongst our flock :D
Grimm - learning to spell so I aint ignant - CAF ;)
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Originally posted by Grimm
We could instead settle for a battle of Whits!
I refuse to have a battle with an unarmed man ;)
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Rookie is a weenie!
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(just hadta get that in.)
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The Damned
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Originally posted by Horn
Rookie is a weenie!
h
(just hadta get that in.)
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The Damned
But I'm not a Damned Weenie ;)
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You need to re-visit BigWeek.
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Any particular thread? I haven't been there in a long long time. How far should I go back on the headers or is this just a general thing?
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Rookie --"Seriously, I still don't get the Mk(insert Roman Numeral here) thing, but if it works for you all, so be it. It just makes one seem detached from the rest (In my opinion) and know it would not work for our squad."--
Ain't no big thing; started back in '95 or so. Our CO wanted to bring in some fresh blood (yours truly included), but didn't want to drop the original founders, so he started Damned MkI as a frequent flyers squad, (sorta like the Spitfires, I guess) with The Damned as a more honorary group. Then one of our go-getters decided to start up a dedicated buff squad -- MkII. Then a MacAW Squadron -- MkIV. And a Warbirds Squadron -- MkV. Etc. etc.
We thought it sounded less pretentious then, say [[ahem]], the Damned 'Skull' Squadron or the Damned 'Blood' Squadron ;)How many old time squadrons still around? I miss the DiKtAtOrS
Isn't DFA still around?
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Originally posted by RookieCAF
Any particular thread? I haven't been there in a long long time. How far should I go back on the headers or is this just a general thing?
As I'm sure you are aware, even though our every utterance is wise and genius, there have been some threads better than others--go back a couple of months to the "Iran" thread--think that one went 500 at least.
Brat is back, Pasha split, same old same old. The http://www.look-at-ewe.com site has grown.
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Originally posted by Horn
As I'm sure you are aware, even though our every utterance is wise and genius, there have been some threads better than others--go back a couple of months to the "Iran" thread--think that one went 500 at least.
Brat is back, Pasha split, same old same old. The http://www.look-at-ewe.com site has grown.
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Hey ... I haven't posted a wav file there in over a year. See? Interest waned! So .... I bet you wished I'd kept all those wav files on my machine. Huh?
HUH?
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Cod I used to hate you when I was on dialup :D
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Originally posted by Horn
As I'm sure you are aware, even though our every utterance is wise and genius,
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Ok, I just knocked down the headers and read a little, I'll look back further.
*groan* I remember that picture web site. Maybe I'll have to remake my Mage Dartboard :) :) :)
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Originally posted by 11dano11
We thought it sounded less pretentious then, say [[ahem]], the Damned 'Skull' Squadron or the Damned 'Blood' Squadron ;)Isn't DFA still around?
OK, I'll actually agree there ;)
DFA, Dunno, I'll look at the scores page and see if there's anyone I know. I miss the Diablos. They always put up a fun fight, except that one guy I always had to run down in my Ki ;) (used to run from me in a low 51 with not a ton of E. I'd wait for him in my Ki at about 15k and run his butt down *every* time) LMAO!
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GATR LOOK WHAT YOU DID.
Everyone needs to know that it was all gatr's fault that the RJO went so well
Jakes 81st
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Ahhh ... that must `splain it. I don't run Gator on my machine. Silly adware crap.
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
I can remember
Come on old man. You cant remember yesterday.
:D
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Jakesc.... IS to BLAME...HE RAN THE RJO <<<<
I just Watched.... ..sort of.....
It's all his DMDMKIVII fault!!!!!!...
or somthing like that!!!!
Is that enough numerals after DMD ?
STILL LAFFIN
Gatr
81st
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11dano11 spewed:
Of those here who flew in AW, how many were trained by someone from the Damned
I was. I ain't ashamed to admit it, either. Snowman and Stymy taught me lotsa good stuff and I mentally thank them whenever I use any of that. Snowman even hired me as a trainer several years down the line in AW2 and AW3 and I enjoyed working with him.
But here's the thing. The Damned, including all its subsidiaries, is so friggin' global that it can't help containing maybe even a dozen good guys who don't fit the stereotype established by the teeming multitudes of Damned. Hell, I can think of 10-12 Damned who've been worthy adversaries, respected fellow pilots, and/or even friends over the years. You and I have gotten along fine in the past online, and I tried to keep you drunk on beer I either made or bought at the last 2 Cons. But the rest of your horde has always been a bunch of whining, running, bailing, altmonkey gangbangers and I don't see that ever changing.
What have you contributed, Bullethead?
Like I said, I was a trainer in AW myself. Many of those who started AW after it got Windblown and are still flying AH today were my pupils. People still find my training website useful in AH even if I've never updated it to AH standards. I was in the closed tests of every version of AW after DOS. I've made maps for AW and AH, designed and run AW scenarios, and I make skins--no doubt you'll be using some of mine soon in AH2. I've also gotten BB, Moggy, and HT drunk at my expense more than once each ;).
You're a gawddam liar.
I've been called worse by better and deserved it. But I don't deserve this. I got nothing personal against you, but all that I've said about the Damned is true to the stereotype established by the majority of your members over many years and across 3 different sims. If you don't like me saying it, I suggest you do something to change the image of your squad(s).
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"I'll take 'Sweeping Generalizations' for $400, Alex."
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Originally posted by Grimm
We could instead settle for a battle of Whits!
Do the Damned (note correct spelling) know anything of Iocaine Powder??
Thought for sure someone would pick up on this "battle of Whits" from The Princess Bride.... ::Sigh::
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Lol Grimm,
I knew I heard that somewhere but couldn't place the name of the movie,
:lol
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Originally posted by Grimm
Wow... You guys are something else
Point Made : The Dammed are a bunch of whiners, in this thread in particular. Particularly about being outnumbered when they are one of largest squads in the world.
Responce: We have a better K/D, We have a couple guys that are trainers, Lets settle this by a duel, ect.....
I think maybe you need to do more flying and less whinning. Its just a game, no need to get your undies in a bundle.
I bow to your superior whining skills ;)
Typical of Whiners as the CAF are known to be. Look at the Number of replys.
THEN when we suggest proving their claims, They whine some more and back out of the challenge. Sounds like "can't beat them,LIE" to me.
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Originally posted by RookieCAF
I sometimes spell check his posts on our board. I usually don't correct em unless its in a thread title. Guess its just the Virgo in me. *sigh*
If you were Virgo, you would actually know something. Must be an August born Leo/Virgo Cuspid.
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Hell ... ya'll are both Virgos? Then it's obvious. Ya'll just need to get laid.:lol
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Sheesh
I'd rather fly than hafta scan all this crap. Lets just duel and loser buys beer at the con. At least drinkin beer at the con is a win/win :)
btw thanks for the representation for ole Buzz that was cool :aok
Coach
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I had a rather enjoyable flight last night, in 1 run I shot down both Shane and ManeTMP... oops that's not 'thread' material. I drink a nice Texas beer 'Shiner Boch' so make sure you buy me some of that o.k. all you CAF weenies?! :D
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Originally posted by 11dano11
What have you contributed, Bullethead?
Dano, this is a joke, right?
- oldman
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You know your in trouble when you stir up the OLDONES
GATR
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OLDONES
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LOL!!! i remember when our squad was Bishops and we (The Bish) were the ones labelled "The Lemming Horde" heheh. Actually, why are so many people coming Rook? Go away!!! :rofl
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Originally posted by Gatr
You know your in trouble when you stir up the OLDONES
GATR
81st
OLDONES
*Chuckle*
OM ... I wonder why you don't consider changing your handle with the confusion some have over you and `ol "GRINNNNZZZZZ" brain.
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"The kick is up and.........It's good!" - Punt