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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: simshell on January 12, 2004, 03:48:41 PM
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iv allways loved flying the LA5 sense 4 months ago and i fly it over the LA7 because it is a much better fighter
were the LA7 is a runner and LA5 is a very good knife fighter and what it cant outrun it can outturn it has a topspeed on the deck at around 360mph yet it can fight almost as good as a F6F in terms of close in dogfights
and the firepower can destroy any fighter if given a chance to land more then 1 hit
i tend to think that the LA7 is used so much not because they enjoy flying it but just because its the fastest low alt fighter in the game
so how about you people get out of that LA7 and fly the LA5 for a change
and i ask you why do you fly the LA7 over the LA5
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la7 is better overall than the la5. plus you have an extra cannon that makes a lot of difference when it comes to snap shot.
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La7 is lighter, extra fire power, acelerates faster has a slightly better climb rate.
I'm a big La5 guy. You just have to get in close and land a concentrated burst for the kill. Hold that trigger down a little longer. Snap shots, deflections are almost impossible and slashing attacks are just to tease those bombers although I have gotten lucky from time to time with all three tactics.
I fly the 5 simply to perk farm and I catch many who underestimate the plane. Also it's a survivor, keep it fast and you'll live forever.
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Originally posted by simshell
iv allways loved flying the LA5 sense 4 months ago and i fly it over the LA7 because it is a much better fighter
were the LA7 is a runner and LA5 is a very good knife fighter and what it cant outrun it can outturn it has a topspeed on the deck at around 360mph yet it can fight almost as good as a F6F in terms of close in dogfights
and the firepower can destroy any fighter if given a chance to land more then 1 hit
i tend to think that the LA7 is used so much not because they enjoy flying it but just because its the fastest low alt fighter in the game
so how about you people get out of that LA7 and fly the LA5 for a change
and i ask you why do you fly the LA7 over the LA5
I guess we have to answer to you?
In any case, the extra gun makes a big dif. I was using the 5 but got tired fo getting assists since no one seems to be able to let you finish your fight. They always have to help (unless you really need help :mad: ) My own scuadies will shoot over my shoulder to get the kill.
As far as running, just because its fast, it does not mean its used to run. I don't run, I may extend a couple of K and then I will come back and kill you. Also, how else are you going to catch the people that do run?
I love the 5 but its an assist factory when other 'friendlies' are around. Is it OK of I keep using the 7 or g10 now, or should I conslut with you on the use of my $15 first?
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dedalos if your geting nothing but asst then you need to work on your shooting ability i almost get nothing but kills and asst for me is rare in the la5
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I like the LA5 also like the spit 5. Simple statement huh
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Who needs to run when all the fighters in the area are dead? :D
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dedalos, if your own squaddies are shooting over your shoulder, perhaps you'd better find a new squad :D
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No, stealing your squaddies kills is the best part.
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You have a group of hungry little shi, er kids. You offer them cookies... or crackers... what do they pick?
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beer.
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[SIZE=12]PERK THE LA-5[/SIZE]
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LA5 is fun, when you manage to see out of that ugly nose it has...
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Originally posted by Shane
la7 is better overall than the la5. plus you have an extra cannon that makes a lot of difference when it comes to snap shot.
Yep, because people want the fastest, most manoeuvrable, most powerful guns etc... The LA5 would be more of a ch.. cha.. challenge! Doh - I said the C-word.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
LA5 is fun, when you manage to see out of that ugly nose it has...
Saw saw... we know whats your problem ... :D
(http://www.aviationclassics.org.uk/images/kid_pilot.jpg)
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People don't use the La5 because the La7 is an La5 that is faster, turns better, accelerates better, climbs better, and has more firepower. Why would anyone want to handicap themselves?
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Originally posted by Urchin
People don't use the La5 because the La7 is an La5 that is faster, turns better, accelerates better, climbs better, and has more firepower. Why would anyone want to handicap themselves?
Funny how we all get different ideas on the same raw material.
I'd swear the 5 is a better turner than the 7.
It's not about handicapping ourselves. Some of us fly certain planes for fun, for an added challenge and not to maximize kills and score. I've flown the 109G6 a little because I find it very hard to keep the edge in it and get kills, therefore it's very satisfying when I finally land kills.
I could just start flying la7/spit, because they're clearly better overall... I choose not to...
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I don't know for certain, to be honest, because I rarely fly either. But "scientifically" speaking... the La7 has the same wing as the La5. It is lighter, so it would have lower wingloading, and it has a more powerful engine, so it would also have better "powerloading". I assume there are more nonsensical terms that I don't know, but I think it'd be safe to assume the La7 turns at least as well as the La5, and probably better. I know the La7 will turn with a 109G2, and out turn any later 109 and all the 190s. It could probably out-turn the P-51, definately the F4U and P-47, probably not the F6F or P-38.
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Originally posted by Urchin
People don't use the La5 because the La7 is an La5 that is faster, turns better, accelerates better, climbs better, and has more firepower. Why would anyone want to handicap themselves?
Because its fun....brings a better challenge to a fight when everyone else is usin the 7.....like being the underdog.....like splashing the BETTER plane into the water:aok
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when I see an La5 I allways just figure the guy is flying another late war dweeb plane but screaming out..
"look at me I'm not flying that dweeb La7" "I am depending on my skill rather than just choosing the best plane in the game!"
lazs
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I fly the LA-5 alot, If I come upon an LA-7 he's as good as dead unless he runs, even then if he's low on E i'll still catch him because despite what alot of guys seem to think the LA-5 accelerates just as quick as the LA-7 and out turns it. The only real advantage a LA-7 has is top speed and slightly more firepower.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Yep, because people want the fastest, most manoeuvrable, most powerful guns etc... The LA5 would be more of a ch.. cha.. challenge! Doh - I said the C-word.
you wouldn't understand challenge because you fly easy-mode. maybe not an easy-mode plane (altho this is open to debate), but an easy-mode style.
you want a film (easy-mode crammed as it is) of me in a lower la7, taking on a higher spit9, piloted by none other than the #1, yes, i said #1, ranked player currently in this tour.
and winning.
or would you rather see films of a similar nature but in me an easy-mode 109? with gondies dangling?
i'll look for you in CT.
:)
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Originally posted by simshell
dedalos if your geting nothing but asst then you need to work on your shooting ability i almost get nothing but kills and asst for me is rare in the la5
Yeah, you seem to know a lot about the game. When you fly through a fure ball you only get the oportynity for a short burst.
In any case, can you please help me with my shooting ability? I'll be on tonight. lease find me and help me?
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Originally posted by simshell
dedalos if your geting nothing but asst then you need to work on your shooting ability i almost get nothing but kills and asst for me is rare in the la5
On second thought, please don't. (I checked your hit rate)
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Originally posted by dedalos
In any case, can you please help me with my shooting ability? I'll be on tonight. lease find me and help me?
i'll be happy to show you the error of your ways in the la5.
:D
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Originally posted by Shane
you wouldn't understand challenge because you fly easy-mode. maybe not an easy-mode plane (altho this is open to debate), but an easy-mode style.
you want a film (easy-mode crammed as it is) of me in a lower la7, taking on a higher spit9, piloted by none other than the #1, yes, i said #1, ranked player currently in this tour.
and winning.
or would you rather see films of a similar nature but in me an easy-mode 109? with gondies dangling?
i'll look for you in CT.
:)
Well gee thanks, Mr. Shane. Post the film. So not only were you flying easy mode, your opponent was too? I bet that didn't last long. :D
I wasn't sure who you meant by #1 - deej111 or overbkil? I've killed both in the CT within the last two weeks - and they have killed me too of course! Killed overbkil twice last night, although one showed as a ram on his end, but not on mine. I kept flying, but there was no kill credit message. We never did work out what had happened. I was quite satisfied with the evening, especially as I'd been off for a week, and last night was the first outing of my new Saitek stick, which felt weird at first... .easy-mode 109? with gondies dangling?
If you want a film of me flying the 109 in diffi-mode (no gondies) and getting 6 kills in less than 12 minutes (spit dweebs), just ask.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Well gee thanks, Mr. Shane. Post the film. So not only were you flying easy mode, your opponent was too? I bet that didn't last long. :D
I wasn't sure who you meant by #1 - deej111 or overbkil?
no no no.... #1 overall in MA!!! *the* man!!
it's a 5 min film with the action lasting 3 mins and 2 mins of it running when i forgot to turn it off and was laughing on squad channel 1 about it. :eek: :aok it was actually nothing special.
remember, my easy-mode la7 could have hightailed it at any time, right? but where's the fun in that?
i'll see if it'll fit at the picture hangar. seems so. i'll leave it up til you grab it.
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_150_1074008015.zip
now maybe i'll look for a similar film with being in a 109. and no i don't need a film of your 109 cherrypicking the busy, lower crowd. :aok
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Originally posted by Shane
i'll be happy to show you the error of your ways in the la5.
:D
:aok
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Well, #1 is Coors I think. He's a good stick. Hey Beet, did ya get the EVO? I have a cyborg now but I can feel it's getting "tired"
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Originally posted by Steve
Well, #1 is Coors I think. He's a good stick. Hey Beet, did ya get the EVO? I have a cyborg now but I can feel it's getting "tired"
Cyborg 3D! It's much more stable around the central position than any other stick I've tried. Taking aim was much easier than with the crappytech.
Simshell - I'm so sorry, we've taken your thread way off topic. Happens to a lot of my threads too. ;)
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Rgr Beet, it's what I use now. I think the EVO is the next generation to the cyborg.
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Here's a brief synopsis of the La-5FN I found on the internet:
"The Lavochkin La-5FN was one of Russia's best fighters of WWII. Designed with non-strategic materials in mind, the La-5FN was almost entirely constructed of wood. Powered by a Shvestov M-82FN 14 cylinder radial engine with a two stage supercharger, the La-5FN boasted a maximum 1,850 horsepower and a maximum speed of 403 m.p.h. At optimum altitude. The plane was quick on the controls and could outperform any other Russian fighter before it and more importantly, almost all of its opponents. Armed with two 20mm ShVAK cannons with 200 rounds each, the La-5FN could deliver a small but effective punch. After distinguished service with the Russians in WWII, the plane went on to serve for a decade or so with various Soviet bloc countries until the jet fighter replaced it. "
And here's the rundown on the La-7:
"The La-7 was a development of the La-5, which was very similar in appearance. It was fitted with a 1850hp (1380Kw) Shvetsov radial engine. Armament was increased to three ShVak 20mm cannons. The oil radiator was moved to the lower center of the fuselage. The La-7 had increase in speed of about 10-15mph over the La-5. Due to the improvements it was preferred by many Soviet Aces for its speed, maneuverability, firepower and general performance. The La-7 prototype first flew in early 1944.
The La-7 was about 44mph faster than the FW-190 (its main nemesis). Although the La-7 was initially designed with the three-cannon arrangement, only about 368 were delivered in this configuration, compared with more than 3000 two-cannon La-7's delivered."
:aok
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Originally posted by lazs2
when I see an La5 I allways just figure the guy is flying another late war dweeb plane but screaming out..
"look at me I'm not flying that dweeb La7" "I am depending on my skill rather than just choosing the best plane in the game!"
lazs
So is there an appropriate Russian aircraft to fly that dosn't trigger these thoughts in you Lazs?
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Lazs and beet1e have a lot more in common than they like to admit.
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Originally posted by 2stony
Although the La-7 was initially designed with the three-cannon arrangement, only about 368 were delivered in this configuration, compared with more than 3000 two-cannon La-7's delivered."
Yeah, and I wonder what the proportions are in the MA. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by beet1e
Yeah, and I wonder what the proportions are in the MA. :rolleyes:
less than 368? :lol
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i have alot of flying time in the LA5 and i can insure you it turns better then the LA7
i tend to think because the LA7 has about 2 times more Torque
thats the only idea i have for it turning better but the LA5 does outturn the LA7
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funny, beet1e, coming from a Chog dweeb.
:rofl
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Originally posted by simshell
i have alot of flying time in the LA5 and i can insure you it turns better then the LA7.
you're out-turning the noobs in them, not the plane itself.
if you'd like to test this, we can go to the DA la7 v la5...
we must wean you of pretensions and convert you to an la7 dweeb. we need more la7's in the MA.
:D
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Yeah, and I wonder what the proportions are in the MA.
Probably about the amount of La-7 drivers online to zero.
:rolleyes:
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Simshell,
You are only out turning the La7's because they are not letting off the throttle to get down to a better cornering speed. The slower La5 is already closer to it and therefore appears to be a better turner that its brother.
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I like seeing la5's or 7's in the arena... at least they will fight most of the time.
It won't be as fun when the guys learn how to fly em but for now..... much better than seeing a pee 51 or dee 9 or gee 10 or typhie.
lazs
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AH has an LA-5?
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Whats the best corner velocity for the la5 and la7?
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Whats the best corner velocity for the la5 and la7?
It depends on what kind of tires they have on, :lol