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Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: SoulzofAW3 on January 12, 2004, 05:49:12 PM
I've been playing AH for a month now and I'm starting to get adjusted to the full realism with the blackouts and such.  Actually, I think it makes the game more fun.  On the other hand, I was wondering if AH ever thought about having a RR arena.  I'm pretty sure that would bring the rest of the AW leftovers in here, which means more paying customers for HTC.  That's just my idea.  Maybe one day, HTC will do that and we'll see all the old RR dweebs that are scared of blackouts come out of retirement.  


Also, I figured out how to vulch effectively....MUHAHAHAHAHAH!!
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Arlo on January 12, 2004, 05:51:40 PM
When AH resorts to offering a "relaxed realism" version, it'll be "jumping the shark." ;)
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: IHham on January 12, 2004, 05:54:43 PM
Well, blackouts arn't that big of a deal. I learned how to avoid unnescesary G's in the 190 so I could retain my energy better.

Blackouts are just apart of the game, usually I keep mine minimum on turn fighters, most of the screen is black at points, but aslong as I can see that enemy inside my little hole of conscience, im fine.

Learn to deal with it, its not that bad. Really, I don't think i've had a redout in quite a while(about 3 months I suppose)
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Steve on January 12, 2004, 05:58:58 PM
I was an RR AW dude... wouldn't go back to RR for anything.
Title: Re: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Tilt on January 12, 2004, 06:02:43 PM
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Originally posted by SoulzofAW3
Maybe one day, HTC will do that and we'll see all the old RR dweebs that are scared of blackouts come out of retirement.  




Do you rem a little used setting between RR and FR called PR ? (Partial realism)

It had black out and red outs but no spins/stalls

In AH  you go  from the main clipboard to setup to flight you can check "enable stall limiter".

Where an arena supports it you can use this like PR

Sounds like you dont really need it tho

Sounds like you are nearly there without it..................
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: DEMAN on January 12, 2004, 06:39:06 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
I was an RR AW dude... wouldn't go back to RR for anything.

Same here Steve and I agree completely.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: SOB on January 12, 2004, 06:58:26 PM
If they want to and it brings them more customers, then more power to 'em.  It won't really have any effect on my time in AH either way.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Seeker on January 12, 2004, 07:05:02 PM
No.

A Spit IX flies like this: Insert Hitech's; Oleg's or Mage's idea of it here

That's the way it is.

The real thing as best as the given software can manage

The _GAME_; however, is another thing; and it can be as "full real" or as "RR" as can be imagined.

Get involved in Snapshots; and bend them to what you want.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: mrblack on January 12, 2004, 07:51:24 PM
I would like to see more realism!!
No AUTO ACK!!!

IT I's so freeking silly and arcade like I can't believe It Is still in this "sim" .
Wich brings up a question.
Is this a game or a Sim?
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: WldThing on January 12, 2004, 08:52:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mrblack
IT I's so freeking silly and arcade like I can't believe It Is still in this "sim" .
Wich brings up a question.
Is this a game or a Sim?


Doesnt bother me either way.. One way or another im having fun, all that matters ;)
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: mars01 on January 12, 2004, 09:12:20 PM
and can we get an auto dogfight switch:D
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: simshell on January 12, 2004, 09:23:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mrblack
I would like to see more realism!!
No AUTO ACK!!!

IT I's so freeking silly and arcade like I can't believe It Is still in this "sim" .
Wich brings up a question.
Is this a game or a Sim?



you should know better if we took out auto ack it would make it more easy to take bases and base porkers would love turning off auto ack:rolleyes:
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: simshell on January 12, 2004, 09:24:28 PM
and you realy think people are going to man everbase if you turn off auto ack
Title: relaxed modeling : as asking for no engine braking or tire wear in a racing sim.
Post by: moot on January 12, 2004, 09:33:27 PM
NO THANKS!
Title: Re: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 13, 2004, 12:34:24 AM
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Originally posted by SoulzofAW3
I've been playing AH for a month now and I'm starting to get adjusted to the full realism with the blackouts and such.  Actually, I think it makes the game more fun.  On the other hand, I was wondering if AH ever thought about having a RR arena.  I'm pretty sure that would bring the rest of the AW leftovers in here, which means more paying customers for HTC.  That's just my idea.  Maybe one day, HTC will do that and we'll see all the old RR dweebs that are scared of blackouts come out of retirement.  


Also, I figured out how to vulch effectively....MUHAHAHAHAHAH!!


Say NO! to Relaxed Realism!


ack-ack
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Toad on January 13, 2004, 12:47:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by mrblack
Wich brings up a question.
Is this a game or a Sim?


Yes it is.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: SOB on January 13, 2004, 12:55:41 AM
No it isn't.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Toad on January 13, 2004, 12:57:48 AM
Of COURSE it is! It's undeniable.

Can we get MiniD to moderate this for us?
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: SOB on January 13, 2004, 01:13:07 AM
I deny that.  And getting Mini-dork involved would be a bad idea...he'd just ban us both and edit our posts into a contrived love story.  Lover.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Toad on January 13, 2004, 01:47:54 AM
The denial was inevitable. Nonetheless, the original statement stands upon a high hill, a shining beacon of truth in this dismal lowland swamp of a thread.

I've also seen, perpetrated and been both victor and victim in sordidly contrived love stories... unedited of course... so that's an empty threat, particularly considering his limited ability to smile.

Sweetie-poo? Same time as last Thursday night?
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: mrblack on January 13, 2004, 02:26:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by simshell
you should know better if we took out auto ack it would make it more easy to take bases and base porkers would love turning off auto ack:rolleyes:


People defend bases now dont they?
And if they dont they lose them as simple as that.
Title: Re: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Montezuma on January 13, 2004, 02:56:01 AM
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Originally posted by SoulzofAW3
On the other hand, I was wondering if AH ever thought about having a RR arena.  


Just turn on the 'stall limiter' and you can be in a RR zone of your own.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: beet1e on January 13, 2004, 05:12:42 AM
Relaxed Realism? The realism in the MA as it stands now is so relaxed that it's almost comatose.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Gloves on January 13, 2004, 07:09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Steve
I was an RR AW dude... wouldn't go back to RR for anything.


Ditto
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: sonofagun on January 13, 2004, 07:17:49 AM
As long as you're planted in front of that PC monitor squeezing your saitek or logitech, it's relaxed realism.

It's a game, have fun!
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on January 13, 2004, 01:27:06 PM
Absolutely worst thing that could happen - that's what FA does and all it leads to is a major fight between the the arcade vs the realistic crowd - all thenewbs flock to the relaxed arena - what's next unlimited ammo and fuel?
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Shane on January 13, 2004, 01:36:29 PM
AH *has* RR... it's usually found in H2H.

;)
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: TweetyBird on January 13, 2004, 02:08:03 PM
The stall limiter acts like a RR - except you get the g effects. Your plane will fly worse than everyone elses, but if you're vulching, that hardly matters :D

I usually fly with it off till I get sick and tired of dieing from spinning, then I'll turn it on till I get sick and tired of dieing from the lmiter. Yes its a wonderful relaxing hobby :D
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: lazs2 on January 13, 2004, 02:15:18 PM
we allready have RR in AH and, as could be expected, a large part of the player base is stuck in it and, as can be expected.... it makes it not as fun.

The RR in AH is called building battling or... "missunz"

lazs
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: Murdr on January 13, 2004, 02:19:46 PM
las2, I realize you say that toung in cheek with underlying meaning.  But I think there is some truth to that.  The RR types gravatate toward the MA, while the FR types go toward the CT.  It seems to me to be of similar population and personality as its respective former AW counterparts.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: acepilot2 on January 13, 2004, 02:54:58 PM
RELAXED REALISM???

What does this look like, battlefield 1942?
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: FDutchmn on January 13, 2004, 06:15:49 PM
As Montezuma already mentioned, just turn your stall limiter on then you have your Relaxed Realism.  If you want to become better by pushing your plane to the edge of the envelope, then you must learn to fly your plane with the stall limiter off.

I actually fly with combat trims on, which in effect is a form of relaxed realism.  I probably can turn my plane much faster if I learn to use the trim in combination with my joystick, but I would probably have to learn to maintain E.  I am happy with combat trims for the moment.  It brings enough enjoyment for me.
Title: Relaxed realism in AH
Post by: lazs2 on January 14, 2004, 08:17:37 AM
murdr... I have flown both the MA and CT.   the skill levels are about the same... same % of decent sticks and same % of clueless and... given a chance... the ct will instantly turn into "missunz".   the maps are set and the field hardness are set so that doesn't happen.

The CT is allriight but the fights are not varied enough.   Axis planes act about the same and allied planes act about the same... put em together and the fights end up being pretty same same.

field spacing and hardness make all the difference.   Give people a way to hide from confrontation and they will...

In the CT.. the numbers are too low and pleas to go pork some field half way round the map go unanswered.... I do see guys killing the CV tho and killing the only decent fight.   I do about the same in either arena but..  in the CT I can get stuck in a plane like a P40b and do poorly... there is no way to get out of that hole.

If the matchups are about even... I have had some good times in the CT.  Still... the sameness of the fights gets old.  "gee... wonder what move that 109/190/nik/zeke will make against my heavy American plane?"

lazs