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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Grits on January 13, 2004, 12:13:45 PM
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After two weeks I have noticed some things. There is a LOT of complaining on Ch1 about various issues, and while I never respond online I thought I'd throw some IMHO's out here for discussion. In no particular order...
1. HO's. Lots of complaints about HO's, most of the Ch1 traffic is $h!t talking and HO beechin. $h!t talking is hilarious, HO beechin isnt. I dont often get HO'd, or go for a HO but it happens. Usually the average player (not that I consider myself above average, the contrary actually) does not even attempt for either vertical or horizontal separation at the merge and I do, so I'm rarely in a position to get HO'd, but it happens. The only time I take a HO is when it is obviously a good pilot because they manage the merge well (IE, better than me) and end up relatively nose-to-nose. At that point I'll take a HO, however I always apologize to the guy on Ch1 afterwards, but I dont get upset when I get HO'd. If HT didnt want us to take HO's then those hits would be thrown out like in the old AW.
2. Vulchin. Why oh why do Vulch victims whine about getting Vulched?!? Its THIER fault. Getting Vulched once is not your fault, maybe you didnt look before you upped, but any time you get vulched more than once is YOUR fault, not the Vulchers. Dont wanna get Vulched? Up a different base, pretty simple. Complaining on Ch1 for Vulchin to stop is a guarantee that it will continue. I like Vulching and will do it at every opportunity provided it is not over the last base of an about to be reset country. Since I defect to the coutry with the lowest numbers every time I log on I have not been in that position yet.
I think that is just poor sportsmanship but I dont blame others for doing it, or for vulching me, which happens, ususally I think its funny because I upped without looking and paid the price.
3. Air Napoleon's. Holy cow some guys go overboard. Other night, cant remember which country I was in, some guy had a "Master Plan" to win the war in 15 minutes after a reset and broadcast it on the country channel EVERY 30 SECONDS for about a hour and then got his panties all bunched up in a knot because nobody was listening to him. Thank goodness for the squelch command.
4. Uber (insert pane of choice here). Someone's always complaining about a plane that is overmodeled and that is the only reason they got killed. I get myself killed by doing stupid things so often that I dont as yet blame it on the other guys plane choice. Funny thing is, I have seen almost every plane (at least the top 4-6 anyway) targets of this, but the Niki and La7 are the most common. Are we all supposed to fly P40B's? Or Hurricane I's? Or maybe D3A's? This one is often in combination with No 1, "that Niki/La7/Spit/P38 HO dweeb..."
5. Milkrunners. I dont mind milkrunners, its their $. What I dont understand is, several times I have chased a milkrunner and gotten into 'con range and they instantly bail. I dont get the point of this since they have a good chance to shoot down a single fighter with the guns on the buffs, at least a better chance than bailing. Bailing over enema territory you kow you will be captured so what is the difference if you try to fight your way out and die? Isnt your score the same either way capture or killed? I think they ought to take it like a "man", unless it Flossy of course.
6. $h!t talking. In general I think $h!t talking is funny, and is a big reason online games are soooo fun. Some folks are very good at it and those that do it well are creative and come up with some really good ones. However, if "Hey STFU" is all you can come up with, probably better to stay quiet.
None of this stuff really bothers me, mostly I think its funny. Its your dollar do what you want to have fun, I just thought that as someone with a fresh view on AH I'd throw out my first impressions and see what you Vets think.
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Originally posted by Grits
4. Uber (insert pane of choice here). Someone's always complaining about a plane that is overmodeled and that is the only reason they got killed. I get myself killed by doing stupid things so often that I dont as yet blame it on the other guys plane choice. Funny thing is, I have seen almost every plane (at least the top 4-6 anyway) targets of this, but the Niki and La7 are the most common. Are we all supposed to fly P40B's? Or Hurricane I's? Or maybe D3A's? This one is often in combination with No 1, "that Niki/La7/Spit/P38 HO dweeb..."
According to some people.. YES.
Dont mind those kind of people, bunch of whiners that want to tell you what to fly.. Fly what you want, and what you enjoy flying. The more whiners that die, the better you shall feel ;)
Have fun Sir! =S=
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Air Napoleon's.. I feel ya.
I'd bet money it's a guy named Phaeton. This guy was a rook the other night and he was issuing all sorts of commands/demands/insults. I made the mistake of responding to him by saying: You attract more flies w/ honey than vinegar.
He responded by calling into question my AH skills and team play, along w/ assorted insults. This from a guy who has played the game for exactly 2 months and only enough time as a fellow rook to get exactly 2 kills in his career. :aok
Hehehehe, yet I was over the very base that he was attempting to coerce rooks to defend.
Thankfully, the next day this guy was a Bish!
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LOLH,
Great post Grits!!!
If you play this game you have to take all the morons with a grain of salt. At the end we are all a bunch of geeks playing a computer game. If you dont believe me or think I am wrong, go explain what you do to your girl friend, wife or someone who could care less about this stuff and you'll find out the truth lol.
Alot of the wines are just venting frustration, myself included. So to take this stuff seriousely or personally is crazy. My motto - relax talk smack and laugh.
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That is an increadable amount of wisdom to pick up in 2 weeks. I know It took me 2 years.
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First of all..it's just a game.
Ignore channel 1.....lotsa youngsters online...and some that are older and act like youngsters.
HO a legitimate shot.....someone comes straight for my nose he's gonna get a faceful. I learned a long time ago not to trust that your enemy will break the HO for a different merge tactic. A HOs' a HO....same as if it walks like a duck etc.
Andddddddd secondly.....welcome to Aces High.....lots of old timers here from AW DOS days....gee...dare I say that some of us are in our 50s and 60s and still playing? I dare :aok
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Andy Rooney joined AH?? Welcome :)
Good post. Fortunatly this was not the typical "too weak observations" post:aok
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Well, I cant claim to have learned all that in two weeks, most of it I learned the hard way in the old GEnie AW years ago. Back then I chased scores, cried about getting vulched, talked a lot of trash on Ch1 and all that. Then I realized I was not having any fun, so I started doing what I liked and not worring about others. I come to AH with that previous knowedge which is a big help.
I guess I could have called this "The more things change the more they stay the same" post too.
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Originally posted by Grits
Bailing over enema territory you kow you will be captured so what is the difference if you try to fight your way out and die? Isnt your score the same either way capture or killed? I think they ought to take it like a "man", unless it Flossy of course.
LOL! :lol Grits and welcome to AH. Well if you ever chase my bombers when I'm deep in enemy territory, you definitely won't find me bailing! I'd be only too glad to have a pop at you.... in fact just last week, in Trinity, I went for a deep strat target (Knit Refinery IIRC) and was attacked as I was starting to head back to Bishland. Shot him down, then watched as he reupped and started to chase me back..... he never did catch up and eventually turned back to Knitland as I crossed into friendly territory - and I eventually landed successfully. :)
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Good observation and Welcome to AH ..
I remember back 2-3 years ago the 1st command when i'd enter the main was .squelch 1 its not as near as bad as it was back then but there seams to be alot more newbies wanting to run missions that dont understand the maps peticular strat and gameplay along with trying to grab a CV and take them on a 10 hour tour to the far side of the map . (boy they get mad when you interrupt their plans for a cv ):aok
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Great Post Grits!
Pretty good observations! :)
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Howdy Grits and welcome to the bunch! Was good fighting you the other night in the extreme south-east of Mindano Sunday night.
Don't let em bother you, if they do type
.squelch 1
and if you really want to be left alone
.squelch 6
Hope things get better for you. :)
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Grits,
You're not welcome here, you've got too much common sense.
Post again when you've turned into a stupid whiney tard.
JK, welcome to AH. I like you.
eskimo
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grits you must learn that shane is allowed to talk trash since only 2 people he can't beatin a duel are WldThing and BigMax.
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Originally posted by Steve
... I feel ya.
Steve .... I've seen you do this to "newbies" in the past. If you're not making them nervous you're still kinda making me jittery. :D
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
grits you must learn that shane is allowed to talk trash since only 2 people he can't beatin a duel are WldThing and BigMax.
Skull, you're a nice kid. However, they don't make a chapstick big enough for Shane's backside... And lotion is way too squishy... ;)
My regards,
Widewing
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The only milkrunners I dislike are the ones that rush out to kill a factory the very minute a zone field is taken.
Then again I love it when the enemy does that. :D
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i can beat them.. maybe not consistently, but.... there's a few more out there as well who can give as good as they get. they know who they are. :)
besides, grits said he finds the smack amusing as long as it's not run of the mill yo-momma-stfu-phag-type.
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Originally posted by Shane
besides, grits said he finds the smack amusing as long as it's not run of the mill yo-momma-stfu-phag-type.
I bet you think this means he'll find you amusing? :D
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Hint o' Jealousy there Arlo? :p
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Originally posted by Steve
Hint o' Jealousy there Arlo? :p
No .... "jittery" was an exact description. :D
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dunno.. dun care. i was just remarking upon what was said.
i did have a witty comeback to one of them run-o-the-millers yesterday when he asked,
"have you ever met your father?"
i said...
"no, but i did stay at a holiday inn express with your mother last night."
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Originally posted by Shane
dunno.. dun care. i was just remarking upon what was said.
i did have a witty comeback to one of them run-o-the-millers yesterday when he asked,
"have you ever met your father?"
i said...
"no, but i did stay at a holiday inn express with your mother last night."
:lol :aok
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I'm too busy learning to fly and the tactics to pay attention to channel one...:rofl
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Originally posted by Shane
"have you ever met your father?"
i said...
"no, but i did stay at a holiday inn express with your mother last night."
Now see, THAT is funny! (writes that one down for later) "Hey STFU" is not.
I have seen some stuff on Ch 1 that was so funny I just about fell out of my chair laughing. Really, trash talking is verbal combat, its the same thing as ACM, its a competition between two people, some are very good at it, some are bad, and most are just average. The guys that are good are a pleasure to listen to, while rest are...well...tiresome.
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Grits, thats the most sense anyone has ever made on this board. If you learned all that in just 2 weeks (took me 4-5 months) I'd like to know what you learn in 2 months.
By the way, are you sticking with MA or going to go to H2H?
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I fly some in the MA, but I like the CT better, less flight time to find a fight. I think the MA and the sometime huge number of planes in con range is a little too much for me to keep track of just yet so I often find myself with 10 bandits on my 6 and no idea they are there. PING PING PING and then I'm in the tower wondering what happened.:D
In the CT the numbers are usually more managable for me SA wise and I am doing quite well there from my standpoint which is not about score or k/d just personal improvement. I am still doing pretty poorly in the MA mostly because my SA is lagging behind my flight and gunnery skills.
The most important thing I took from AW was the best way to get better is dont run from those better than you, stand and fight and then watch film and figure out why you lost. I'm diein' at a phenominal rate so that means I'm (one hopes) learning at an equally phenominal rate. :aok
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Originally posted by Shane
dunno.. dun care. i was just remarking upon what was said.
i did have a witty comeback to one of them run-o-the-millers yesterday when he asked,
"have you ever met your father?"
i said...
"no, but i did stay at a holiday inn express with your mother last night."
saw that on channel 1 I spit coffee everywhere that was hysterical
JustJim1
III/Jabostaffel
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Yep... the MA has become long flights to a gangbang.... Try the excellent fester map when it is up...
everyones attitude improves during fester time.
lazs
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Welcome to AH!
Air napoleons... one of my favourites to pick on.
A44 under attack! EVERYONE DEFEND A44 PLEAAAAAAAAAZEEEEEE!!!!
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A Rook Napoleon would never, ever say "Please". That's for puny Bishops or Knits :D
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Neg. Pepe , I try to be polite when screaming for help on squad channel :)
... pfff belgian sheep shagger !
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Originally posted by straffo
sheep shagger !
And this is, definitely, Knit material :D
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Straffo is a nitluvah. He goes there on week ends and hunts us down like the dogs we are. fortunately, he's the one teaching me how to shoot :p
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Great post Grits, you sure you've only been here two weeks. Couldnt agree with you more.
Originally posted by Grits
The only time I take a HO is when it is obviously a good pilot because they manage the merge well (IE, better than me) and end up relatively nose-to-nose.
I would disagree with you a little here, a good pilot will not end up in a HO position after the merge, s/he'll be on yer butt (or making the angle to) and about to deprive you of something vital:)
Grits the whole behaviour thing you mention is all about ego, there are some folk who cannot accept that the other guy is just a better pilot, or that they simply stuffed up, Nooo, they come up with every lame excuse because their immature ego cant accept the truth.
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How ironic you chose '2 weeks' as your title because this is the exact amout of time it take to either fix an existing problem or come out with a new version around here! :rofl :rofl
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.squelch caplocks <---new secret command of the week
Ahhh no more Air napoleons ...
along with .squelch squad spam .
ahhh no more join this squad advertisements every 30 seconds.
i dont mind the nme incoming base such and such , but the caps do get frustrating .
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LOL
Even thou some hate RJOs. The one side benifit of commanding one is, you can type in CAPs all night and nobody yells at ya! Heck you even get to scream orders and everyone is good with it. lol