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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vipermann on January 15, 2004, 02:42:09 PM
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Someone at work sent me this video. Not sure where it is but I'd be willing to bet it's in Iraq. Pretty powerful gun on that Apache.
(Link Removed)
Sorry wasn't aware it had been posted before. Wasn't that AC-130 movie posted here before? I thought that was worse.
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A word of advice... edit the post and remove that link. It's been posted and removed already once... the poster was put on probation. It's been deemd a bit too graphic for HTC's site.
MiniD
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It been posted twice before...
hit the delete button buddy...
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Email me the link please.
ice_nine_one@yahoo.com
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Me too please.
erict_2_3@hotmail.com
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me too please... told my friends about it but unable to find it again..
treefrogAOM@hotmail.com
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Is that the video of the guys jumping a gate running and get shot and the last guy tries to hide behind a truck?
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There's a link to it on the Checksix board.
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i wanna see too..!!!!!!!!1
fmassive@cwnet.com
if its on check 6..can u post a link to it?
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Remidned me of when I used to play Longbow2.
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I loved Longbow2. Hours of precious sleep wasted playing that late night...
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Ogrish.com has it.
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That video is sick, I see why the link was removed now.
I can almost gurantee that muslim terrorists are going to use this video as propoganda and recruiting material. Makes the Americans look like monsters.
One website I went to says the second guy who was shot was trying to wave a 'white' flag. Who knows, but I hope they don't play it on Al Jazera anytime soon.
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White flag, my ass.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/US/apache_video_040109-1.html
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I saw the video before the link was removed. They were up to something that's for sure. Whatever it's war and that's what happens in war. People die. No way was the second man trying to wave a white flag. He was bent over furiously unravelling something on the tractor just after his buddy was hit. Work out for yourselves what it was.
It doesn't make Americans look like monsters. It show war as it is. Simple as that.
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That's farm equipment- the only thing these guys were "up to" was trying to plant their crops. The fact they were working far into the night only shows how our illegal invasion of Iraq has punished the common Iraqi.
This is a war crime, at best, and a murder, at worst. Those are non-combatants posing no threat whatsoever to the attacking American forces.
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LOL nice troll.
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War is a nasty business and these things happen. But the clamour to get hold of this stuff is sick. Ghoulish.
I think combatants deserve at least not to have their last moments broadcast around the world.
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Originally posted by Airhead
That's farm equipment- the only thing these guys were "up to" was trying to plant their crops. The fact they were working far into the night only shows how our illegal invasion of Iraq has punished the common Iraqi.
This is a war crime, at best, and a murder, at worst. Those are non-combatants posing no threat whatsoever to the attacking American forces.
LOL And you know this how?
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Airhead.. how bout that beer?
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Originally posted by Dowding
War is a nasty business and these things happen. But the clamour to get hold of this stuff is sick. Ghoulish.
I think combatants deserve at least not to have their last moments broadcast around the world.
And then what?
Leave the victorious masses without these visions?
How could we then not laugh, slap our selves on the back and rejoice in the work of the righteous?
Tronsky
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The ABC link didn't work for me.
From the video: A tractor, flat-bed truck, and pickup truck are visible. Three people are also visible. No weapons can be seen.
So whats the story behind this?
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FWIW, imagine that the US forces did take out some innocent farmers. What would that gain the US? Not only wasting some expensive ammo, but creating more enemies.
Those involved in the mission had a lot more intel and better visibility of what we might think we see in that video. The conviction in the voices in that video leads me to believe that they saw a weapon at the very least.
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If u deal with guns u deserve to get shot into pieces???
type_char this is disgusting like this whole video is disgusting. U are sick minded.
I thought that Skuzzy said that he wont tolerate any of this crap videos on HTS's board anymore. I hope this thread gets locked SOON!
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Imagine Al Jazeera airing a film like this, of US soldiers getting killed...
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wow type_char u deleted ur posts! :rolleyes:
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Yeah, didnt want to spoil it for others.
;)
Plus I was completely guessing so.
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Originally posted by Airhead
That's farm equipment- the only thing these guys were "up to" was trying to plant their crops. The fact they were working far into the night only shows how our illegal invasion of Iraq has punished the common Iraqi.
This is a war crime, at best, and a murder, at worst. Those are non-combatants posing no threat whatsoever to the attacking American forces.
You suffer the same oversight that I do many times, forgetting to add the "/sarcasm"!
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Sheeesh, that last farmer they shot was changing the oil in his truck. That's a crime???
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Originally posted by SunKing
Airhead.. how bout that beer?
Sure, any time. Say where and when.
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im glad you guys get hardons when you see videos of people getting killed. go you!
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thanks for the link dude!
Frogm4n,
what game was that avitar from? I know I remember playing some skiing game and trying to get away from that dude.. It was impossible I think.. lol He'd always catch me and eat my ski dude.. lol
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free ski, one of the first free games MS windows 3.11?( could be wrong) came with.
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lol Im tryin to link to this page to show that to a friend of mine.. He'll recognize it too! lol
hehe Frogm4n.. thanks dude 8)
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For all you "you are all animals for watching this and not being outraged" people.
I doubt most people here get pleasure from it, but it is interesting to see what our troops can do with the gear our tax money pays for.
Do you show the same outrage when the History Channel shows footage from WW2 gun cams? That was people dying as well, yet I have never heard anyone hear get all preachy about that.
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GTO, that was then and this is now.
Old pictures of people getting blown up in war are fine. In fact, they are very popular and the advertisers support them. Why, even AH ran ads on Wings... which routinely shows enemies getting the old 20mm enema. Think about this: we all helped pay for those ads! Even Dowding!
But..... NEW pictures of people getting blown up are strictly verboten. Too edgy, too "now", too "hey, that was only 6 months ago!"; after all we can't support viewing people that supported a dictatorship dying on film NOW.
Only old pictures of people that supported a dictatorship 60 years ago getting blown up are acceptable viewing.
;)
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"Now hear this, Now hear this:
Commentary on how "WW2 was legal and the invasion of Iraq was not" will now be posted on the crew BBS."
That is all."
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Froggy there you go obessing on noodlees again.
Don't worry, the hormones will kick in soon, and you will catch up to the "big boys".
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Froggy there you go obessing on noodlees again.
Don't worry, the hormones will kick in soon, and you will catch up to the "big boys".
Are you saying Froggy has one of these vanity plate frames?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_237_1074203990.jpg)
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Today I finally saw the video.. not as if I were trying to search for it, just managed to look at the right channel at the right moment.
Thats the war... nothing extraordinaire in it.. except I'd like to see longer footages with more 'serious' action than only blowing up some inviduals on the ground... along with some footage from before entering the shooting range and when leaving..
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It was graphic and people got blown up, killed. Iraqis most likely.
Ive seen Americans getting killed, Ive seen Russians and Japanese getting killed. Germans, Canadians, Australians...
I think Ive seen Spaniards and Italians die violently. Would have to check.
Ive heard it said that over 10,000 militant Arabs have died at the hands of evil monstor americans since 9/11 (and a few thousand arab non-coms too, most likley).
Whats the big deal here unless you know them personally. Its all tragic. Humanity is just a tragedy happening day by day. No biggie.
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Al jazeera would show video of Americans getting killed. They show video or Arabs getting killed. The Arab world and indeed much of the world is a lot less squeamish about showing death on television. For example it is common to see photos of the bodies of Russian civilians killed in suicide bombings in newspapers or on TV.
Western media in general and American in particular don't/can't show the actuality of war, yet plenty of video is available. They are accused of 'sanitising war' Left wing journalists point this out all the time. Yet the right wing would be outraged if western troops were shown been killed. It's a no win situation. The media then tend to avoid showing anything meaningful at all. I have yet to see any of the powerful images of the type that came out the Vietnam war or WW2 for either Gulf war.
The helicopter video was graphic in one sense but at the same time it showed nothing of the butcher's yard the scene must have been in reality. Perhaps if we saw more of the reality of war some people wouldn't be quite so enthusiastic about it. I somehow doubt the administration would survive the public distaste caused by repeated graphic images of dead Americans killed in combat or even dead Iraqis.
However I don't think the video is suitable for this forum. There are plenty of websites which deal in this kind of thing and which I admit I tend to avoid. After all why expose yourself to something unpleasant if you can avoid it.
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Why in the Hell is Skuzzy censoring this ??
If its good enough for ABC then why not here ?
This freaking suxs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by MC_Honky
Why in the Hell is Skuzzy censoring this ??
If its good enough for ABC then why not here ?
This freaking suxs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I may say so,
in.
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if i could find war footage from iraq on video ..i would buy it
i find it very intereting to see what militarty sees...
gives you a much bettr understanding of what iS seen and done..
I loved wacthing everyday the footage from the news comapanies during the firts attak sthrough iraq
If i was an nme of the US..i wouldnt liek it at all...
welcoem to life
Ying- yang
if any1 has links to footage for sale of latest Iraq war..feel free to link..
Does Cnn-FoxCBS, ect sell there video?
Salute
BiGB
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
gives you a much bettr understanding of what i seen and done..
Salute
BiGB
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ALERT! ALERT! The BS meter is in the red! She's gonna blow!
Sorry BGBMAW but you and I both know you've never been in combat, much less blown anybody away.
Who was that "sniper" dude last week that talked about his "undercover Ops" in Central America? Maybe you two could hook up and form a WW2OL squad called the "War Heroes"- only let people in who claim they have combat kills. Your leader will be the guy who claims the most kills- I imagine he'll be a 13 year old eighth grader with a better imagination than you guys have. :rolleyes:
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LOL what do you expect, Airhead? These guys think they are the online equivalent to "marines" in their [spacious] minds :)
Buffet Warriors, yes. LOL
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Hey those buffet's can get pretty nasty!
Tronsky
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Originally posted by MC_Honky
Why in the Hell is Skuzzy censoring this ??
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Because he can.
What part of "This is my house" don't you understand?
culero (its a big Internet out there, folkses)
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Originally posted by Airhead
ALERT! ALERT! The BS meter is in the red! She's gonna blow!
Sorry BGBMAW but you and I both know you've never been in combat, much less blown anybody away.
Who was that "sniper" dude last week that talked about his "undercover Ops" in Central America? Maybe you two could hook up and form a WW2OL squad called the "War Heroes"- only let people in who claim they have combat kills. Your leader will be the guy who claims the most kills- I imagine he'll be a 13 year old eighth grader with a better imagination than you guys have. :rolleyes:
Well my DD-214 backs up what i say dipweed.
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Originally posted by mrblack
Well my DD-214 backs up what i say dipweed.
So does mine. I was a ninja.
You have to understand mrblack. This is the internet, people claim stuff all the time.
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Toadherz - I don't pariculary find WW2 gun cam footage palatable either. When I think of the poor bastard in the crosshairs any 'interest' soon subsides.
Oh yeah, don't try and second guess what my opinions might be in future. You are invariably wrong. Fancy that!
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Originally posted by mrblack
Well my DD-214 backs up what i say dipweed.
Your DD-214 will only say what schools you went to, all your duty stations and what awards you got. It's like a resume, Bubba- it says where you were, not what you did...
I'm not denegrating your service; in fact I commend you for it. However, I'm old and have lots of life experience, and I've heard all the war stories before about how much of a "kick" it is to be in combat, shooting at people, and only a sociopath could enjoy that.
Frankly MrBlack I don't give a rat's bellybutton what you did in the Service- but when you come in here like BigBMAW and you do, talking about how much fun it is to chop up baddies with 30MM cannons or a sniper rifle, I call BS. There's nothing fun in war, even for the Generals.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Frankly MrBlack I don't give a rat's bellybutton what you did in the Service- but when you come in here like BigBMAW and you do, talking about how much fun it is to chop up baddies with 30MM cannons or a sniper rifle, I call BS. There's nothing fun in war, even for the Generals.
Never said It was fun.
I said It was an adrenaline rush.
There is a HUGE difference.
And as far as the gun cam footage.
Well like Skuzzy I don't see that It belongs here.
Humans dieng Is neither funny or entertaining in my book.
But keep in mind that the images of 9/11 are very fresh in some Americans minds .
And Hell yes we want BLOOD.
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Originally posted by mrblack
Never said It was fun.
I said It was an adrenaline rush.
There is a HUGE difference.
And as far as the gun cam footage.
Well like Skuzzy I don't see that It belongs here.
Humans dieng Is neither funny or entertaining in my book.
But keep in mind that the images of 9/11 are very fresh in some Americans minds .
And Hell yes we want BLOOD.
Dude, you were in the Service during peacetime. You were never in a war, and you've never killed another human being. Likewise BgbMAW has never killed anyone either, in fact I doubt he was ever in the Service- at least not for more than a couple of months.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Airhead
Dude, you were in the Service during peacetime. You were never in a war, and you've never killed another human being. Likewise BgbMAW has never killed anyone either, in fact I doubt he was ever in the Service- at least not for more than a couple of months.
:rolleyes:
"DUDE" You have no idea where or what I was doing.
And yes there has been a secret(not so secret) war In Central America going on for years to this day as a matter of fact.
Like i have said before I have no one to prove any thing to.
And I dammed sure aint got nothing to prove to you Airhead and the rest of your little google searching "experts" LOL.
God In a battle of witt's I hate fighting the unarmed:D
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Originally posted by Dowding
Toadherz - I don't pariculary find WW2 gun cam footage palatable either. When I think of the poor bastard in the crosshairs any 'interest' soon subsides.
Sounds like a personal problem to me. It's done, there's nothing that can "undo" it, and a lot of folks find it an interesting view into the history of WW2.
Originally posted by Dowding
Oh yeah, don't try and second guess what my opinions might be in future. You are invariably wrong. Fancy that!
I would never try to second guess your opinions. Too far out of my galaxy, sorry.
However, let me help with your reading comprehension.
Originally posted by Toad
Think about this: we all helped pay for those ads! Even Dowding!
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Clearly, I made no guess at your opinion here. I merely pointed out that all of us subscribers subsidized, to some small extent, the broadcast of those WW2 kill films. Our subscription money (and the desire for even MORE subscription money) was part and parcel of the AH ads on Wings.
Not opinion, just fact.
Have a very nice day!
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Originally posted by mrblack
"DUDE" You have no idea where or what I was doing.
And yes there has been a secret(not so secret) war In Central America going on for years to this day as a matter of fact.
Like i have said before I have no one to prove any thing to.
And I dammed sure aint got nothing to prove to you Airhead and the rest of your little google searching "experts" LOL.
God In a battle of witt's I hate fighting the unarmed:D
LOL Oh yeah, THAT'S it- you were involved in classified operations in our "secret South American war." :rofl
And now you're willing to compromise classified operations by claiming to be a participant in these operations on a public bulletin board. :rofl
And it don't matter WHAT a Google search might reveal, you're a sniper, by God! :rofl
And... best of all... you mispelled "witts," mr black... there's only one T !! :rofl :rofl :rofl
So tell me GI Joe... (wiping tears) ... How many Colombian drug lords did you kill? :D :rolleyes:
DUDE, the best thing you and BigBMAW could do is STFU, neither one of you ever killed nothing more than a six pack of Budweiser and several thousand kittens. I like the stories, but save them for the highly impressionable like Davidpt40.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Hmmm, what's that smell?
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Sounds like a personal problem to me. It's done, there's nothing that can "undo" it, and a lot of folks find it an interesting view into the history of WW2.
A personal problem compared to a quite normal desire to watch people die. BTW nice second guess there, chief.
I like the history student pretext. I should think more history can learned from opening a book, reading written accounts and historical fact rather than watching combat footage. Watching a Me.110 being shot down in some blurry 10 second clip tells you very little; about the weapons used, the reasons for the that particular confrontation, the history of the conflict etc.
Now in terms of the Apache footage, what does it add to the historical record, other than its own existance? Little, if anything.
So at the end of the day, what we're left with is the lowest common denominator - a pornographic desire for 'action'. Doesn't bother me at all; whatever gets you off.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Now in terms of the Apache footage, what does it add to the historical record, other than its own existance? Little, if anything.
The full version is pretty informative on ROE, C3, etc. And probably on intel or surveillance too. I doubt it is a coincidence that an AH-64 happened to be in hover 370 yards away waiting for this transaction to take place.
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Its possible to get desensitized to this kind of stuff if you watch it too much.
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I've seen tons of this stuff, dont know why everyone is getting so hot and fired up on nothing. Hell the gun film doesnt even have music. Most interesting part was when the first guy got made into hamburger meat. The rest pf it was just sad, last guy crawling around with one leg (thats what I think). Sick amusement if you ask me.
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Sorry funked, got you ignore. If it isn't another personal attack then I'm sure your point is well worth reading. Probably.
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Originally posted by Airhead
DUDE, the best thing you and BigBMAW could do is STFU, neither one of you ever killed nothing more than a six pack of Budweiser and several thousand kittens. I like the stories, but save them for the highly impressionable ....
ROFL!!!:rofl
Sig material :D
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Originally posted by type_char
I've seen tons of this stuff, dont know why everyone is getting so hot and fired up on nothing. Hell the gun film doesnt even have music. Most interesting part was when the first guy got made into hamburger meat. The rest pf it was just sad, last guy crawling around with one leg (thats what I think). Sick amusement if you ask me.
Hilarious in particular the "... doesnt even have music..." part.
But yeah ur right type_char if its its amusement than its more than sick.
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Its simply niave to view human death any other way.
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A lovely little snit you're having Dowding! Cheerful to oblige!
It is your personal problem. Sorry. With and obvious solution; don't watch this stuff if it bothers you. It's certainly not up to anyone else here or elsewhere to save your from this outrage. These films exist and will be shown. DON'T WATCH. That's a PERSONAL decision.
However, the History Channel, Wings, et al have shown there are a very, very large number of folks that DO have a desire to watch footage from wars where people die, either individually on camera or in flaming aircraft cockpits where their features are indistinguishable. War Photographers have been lauded and awarded prizes for showing pictures of war dead; for caputuring history.
The books spark imagination; films correct imagination. The book presentations usually are more indepth but there's no way they can convey what it looked like. From your little rant there, I wonder if you support the development of the camera. After all, for example, we could have just read incredibly detailed descriptions of exotic, non-native flowers instead of seeing close ups.
What it adds is a clear visualiaztion of how the Apache weapons system actually works at night, with and overlay of the command and control used. It adds a clear understanding of how the Apache is used in war, in coordination with C&C. YOU should have just read about it somewhere though, since it bothers you.
Now go ahead and tell me you didn't/don't watch old WW2 guncam films.
Or even that you watch them while screaming "OH! The humanity!" at the telly.
While you're "getting off", on purely proper "impersonal death", of course.
insertrolleyesthingie
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"The Apache's weapons systems work! Thank god for that! For a moment there, we weren't sure. For a moment there, we thought we had a white elephant situation again. I'm glad someone posted that film - the relief is tangible. Now if someone could post a video of the US Army standard issue combat knife being used to slit a throat or three, we'd know the Federal ordnance requisition people have done another sterling job and I'll sleep easy tonight knowing my tax dollars were well spent yet again! Yay!"
Don't buy it. Sorry.
If you're so interested in seeing weapons work as intended when, if at all, do you draw the line?
Gun camera footage in the context of a historical documentary - I think it has a use. Gun camera footage posted on some BBS with no annotation... I think there is a distinction.
Film doesn't neccessarily correct imagination - it depends who is behind the camera and where it is pointed. This is suitably demonstrated by how many times have people said "weapon x is under-modelled because of this film" around here. A variety of sources from different origins is far better, wrapped up in some sort of package... hey like a documentary. Fancy that!
I'd like to see how accurate a view of the world could be taken from film footage, and then compare it to one taken solely from books. I wonder which would be closer to the truth?
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I have always been and always will be fascinated with combat film.
I find it genuinely amusing that people who hate guns will play with guns on a computer and enjoy it immensely. Also people who hate seeing real combat film but make computer guncam films and love it. In summation: whatever works for you, pursue it with vigor.
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Awww Dowding I apologize lil buddy.
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I find it genuinely amusing that people who hate guns will play with guns on a computer and enjoy it immensely. Also people who hate seeing real combat film but make computer guncam films and love it.
They may enjoy it because its djust a game, and a game=sport in a way, where no one gets hurt...
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One thing that hasn't come up (or else I missed it).
IMHO the strongest possible way to make an anti-war statement is to depict battle with as much realism as possible. The more people see what is actually happening in war at the human level, the more likely they are to understand just what a disaster it is. John Keegan's "Face of Battle" is a good example of this. Or films like "Paths of Glory". Or documentary footage like this AH-64 attack or the one where the soldiers finish off the poor guy on his belly in the street. These words and pictures are the only way for civilian pukes like us to have any chance of understanding just how bad war really is, and that makes them valuable.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
.........John Keegan's "Face of Battle" is a good example of this.......
An oldie but goodie....
Great read and a terrific book for those that want to understand the personal side of combat and what motivates warriors throughout the ages.
BTW, I agree with your other comments funked.... :D
Regards,
Badger
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Thx Badger. I'm looking forward to Keegan's book on the current war in Iraq.
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I don't draw a line Dowding.
I merely decide what I personally watch. If someone had a film taken as the NKVD shot Poles in the back of the head at Katyn Forest, up cloose and personal, I guess I'd have to make a personal decision to watch or not to watch.
If someone had film of US troops coming ashore at Normandy that showed them falling as they were swept with German MG fire, I guess I'd have to make a personal decision to watch or not to watch.
Posted on a BBS or broadcast over the airwaves with commercial breaks, it's still my personal choice. My "personal problem" if you will.
I don't presume to decide if historical war footage is suitable for others to view. I let them make their own decisions. I've never wanted to "nanny" anyone else.
Read your books. Whichever ones you like; that's another personal choice and one that I certainly wouldn't want to restrict for anyone in anyway.
I'll take each instance as they come and make my decisions on them individually. I like to read the books, visualize the scenes and then watch period historical film footage, if any are available. That's my preferred way of reflecting. YMMV?
BTW, did someone force you to watch the Apache video against your will? The old "tied to a chair with your eyelids sewn open"? I'm thinking "not".
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Originally posted by Airhead
LOL Oh yeah, THAT'S it- you were involved in classified operations in our "secret South American war." :rofl
And now you're willing to compromise classified operations by claiming to be a participant in these operations on a public bulletin board. :rofl
And it don't matter WHAT a Google search might reveal, you're a sniper, by God! :rofl
And... best of all... you mispelled "witts," mr black... there's only one T !! :rofl :rofl :rofl
So tell me GI Joe... (wiping tears) ... How many Colombian drug lords did you kill? :D :rolleyes:
DUDE, the best thing you and BigBMAW could do is STFU, neither one of you ever killed nothing more than a six pack of Budweiser and several thousand kittens. I like the stories, but save them for the highly impressionable like Davidpt40.
1.Never said It was classified.
2.Again Dis prove any of my claims .
3.I did not kill any colombians.
4.I dont drink beer and as far as the kittens I doubt It I'm a member of the SPCA.
5.who Is david40
You airhead are trying to dis prove me but yet you offer no evidence to debunk me.
Ofcourse you can't cause there aint none.
So you are fighting a battle you cant win.
But If you enjoy this type of thing I challenge you to try and stump me!!!!
Ask any question about the Army Infantry or snipers in the field of service form 1976-1981.
That ofcousre will include SWS (sniper weapons systems(
Feild craft(stalking)
You get the point.
Now If you can't or wont take this challenge then I will know what you really are.
A *****y little man with too much time on his hands.
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Originally posted by mrblack
You airhead are trying to dis prove me but yet you offer no evidence to debunk me.
Ofcourse you can't cause there aint none.
LOL You've disproved yourself, mrblack.
First you said-
"The taking of a human life is never an easy thing to do.
Thank God I have never been in a position to have to do just that."
You DID say this, right? And then later you said...
"And yes when orderd to kill the enemy that is exactly what I did
followed orders.
I will be the first one to tell you that it has left me with all kinds of head problems as you can imagine.
But It was a job and i was a soldier I did my duty and would proudly do it again if asked to."
Kinda conflicting statements there, huh, Skippy?
Will the REAL Slim Shady please stand up?
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Originally posted by Airhead
LOL You've disproved yourself, mrblack.
First you said-
"The taking of a human life is never an easy thing to do.
Thank God I have never been in a position to have to do just that."
You DID say this, right? And then later you said...
"And yes when orderd to kill the enemy that is exactly what I did
followed orders.
I will be the first one to tell you that it has left me with all kinds of head problems as you can imagine.
But It was a job and i was a soldier I did my duty and would proudly do it again if asked to."
Kinda conflicting statements there, huh, Skippy?
Will the REAL Slim Shady please stand up?
In any of the above is there anything saying I have killed anyone?
I simply said I follwed orders as most in the military did.
And futher more If I ever did engage an enemy do you think I would be telling the likes of you.
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Originally posted by mrblack
In any of the above is there anything saying I have killed anyone?
Uh... Yes, you did say that. In fact you said it repeatedly.
"And yes when orderd to kill the enemy that is exactly what I did
followed orders."
"Airhead for one thing Hunting humans Is a kick!.
As an ex Army sniper I have done it.
I do not expect you to understand though."
"As far as my statement I will hunt the hunters(poachers) for you.
Hunted men before it is the ultimate rush."
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Time for a new handle for RC51 methinks.
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lmfao
i never said i have killed anyone..
but. can tell you with all my heart..i would have no problem taking anotheres life once they have threatened mine or loved ones.
airhead you really tried to run with that1..lmfao
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again..i have no problem at all..DIE enemy DIE
you want alah/jesus/buddah..i dont care...if you threaten ..we can deliver..
btw it was a typo u cluless dolt .....like i would say "i have been there"..airhead..you are really reaching
gives you a much bettr understanding of what iS seen and done..
i forgot the S...suck it airhead..suck it
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Originally posted by Airhead
Uh... Yes, you did say that. In fact you said it repeatedly.
"And yes when orderd to kill the enemy that is exactly what I did
followed orders."
"Airhead for one thing Hunting humans Is a kick!.
As an ex Army sniper I have done it.
I do not expect you to understand though."
"As far as my statement I will hunt the hunters(poachers) for you.
Hunted men before it is the ultimate rush."
1.) open to inturpitation one would have to asume I was ever orderd to engage the enemy.
2.) yes hunting humans is fun did it often now read this next part carefully IN TRAINING.
3.)See above and was said In gest.
And lastly who is this RC51 you speak of?
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LOL airhead you are ammussing me .
Do you try to be this way or have you simply gone with out the
comfort of your life partner for to long.
When And If you can ever pull a good question out of your arse I might answer it till then ta ta.
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With apologies to the Jackson Five:
"He’s a dance, dance, dance, dance, dancing machine
Watch hiim get down, watch him get down
As he do, do, do her thing
Right on the scene
He’s a dance, dance, dance, dance, dancing machine
Watch him get down, watch him get down
As he do, do, do her thing
Right on the scene"
What FOOTWORK!
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Originally posted by mrblack
And lastly who is this RC51 you speak of?
Oh, you've never even heard of RC51, much less that you ARE him? LOLOL
"Freeze your old buddy RC51 says you better join the nights LOL"
-MrBlack
"Freeze your old buddy RC51 here.
Come to Texas I will get ya laid at one of our fine country bars LOL."
-MrBlack
Man, you should stop now. Seriously.
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LOL I have many names but am known by none.
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(http://home.comcast.net/~chris4404/dude-owned.jpg)
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
(http://home.comcast.net/~chris4404/dude-owned.jpg)
LOL School out?
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LOL Funk!
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Me thinks we have some mighty imaginative Salvation Army warriors here. After being laid off from "bell duty" its time to tell stories.
"man that automatic door almost wiped me out, thank goodness I have my Mark23 Bell and Special Issue tamborine!"
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LOL
FreeBirdCobra got served.
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Originally posted by Regular
LOL
FreeBirdCobra got served.
I dont think so.
In fact I aked him to Test me on any subject I claim.
He has not.
I think because He Is afraid of looking like a fool.
I have challenged him and he ignored the challeng.
I think that speaks for It self.
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Dude, you challenged him, and he pwn3d you utterly. You should open another shades account.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Dude, you challenged him, and he pwn3d you utterly. You should open another shades account.
Really?
He did not take me up on my challenge.
So that will be my last word on this.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Mr. Black, you have my respect for being a soldier (I still believe you were that), but man you are a liar, and a poor one at that.
Well Ok You caught me.
I was doing a bit of an experiment.
I posted statements that where nothing more than suggestive
Nothing abuslute.
I wanted to see how many people would jump on the band wagon sort of speak.
And indeed I caught a few LOL.
This experiment has been ongoing going back several post to bait
those silly enough to fall into the trap.
Patience Is one of my better skills you see and I have proved that
Some people will jump the gun without fully understanding about wich they comment.
Depended on you reading skills you will come to multipile conculsions on my statements.
Much like biblical text very open to interpitation.
And Indeed some have choosen to take the more negetive side and accuse me of lying.
That Is fine I threw out the bait and you swallowed LOL.
So If you have learned anything you might want to look at any text and see that It may have several meanings.
I learned this from watching Bill Clinton.
But being as some of you have ego's much larger than you true abilities you will never understand how really stupid you have looked while I have been toying with you
:aok
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YGBSM!
Give it up Black. You make yourself look worse with every post, if that's possible.
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Originally posted by GScholz
There is nothing ambiguous about this statement. You clearly say that you were ordered to kill the enemy and that you did so, and that you got "head problems" because of it. It is not suggestive, it is absolute.
What you call an experiment I call a pathetic attempt of spin control.
The point Is I may or may have not Killed In combat.
never was It stated 100% that I did.
I understand that It might seem confusing .
As It was intended to do.
Leading statements where added and certain statements where also added to imbellish the story line.
To simply state that you people know what I did In my military service Is foolish at best.
If you have this kind of foresite(mind reading).
then perhapes the CIA could use your talents more than the convenience store you now work at.
The fact that I was orderd to kill in combat does not In any way mean that I did! Or perhapes I did.
My point Is you don't know and never will:aok
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Get off your knees MrBlack, I know when I've been licked.
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Originally posted by storch
very well said airhead
Agreed, it's boring, grubby, food is terrible, you have to dig holes all the damn time, all you ever want to do is go home and every now and then someone either scares the crap out of you or tries to remove some of your more essential body parts - it really sucks.
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Is it just me, or has this thread has suddenly become more or less equivalent to the whole Mr. Wobble saga? Cool.
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Originally posted by mrblack
But being as some of you have ego's much larger than you true abilities you will never understand how really stupid you have looked while I have been toying with you
:aok
sure...sure...
:rofl
(http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg01132004/Happy-Forum-Man.jpg)
Tronsky
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The total pwn3nage of mr. black, is a deep and beautiful thing.
I reminds me of a Van Gogh, or Shakespear...perhaps Bach.
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ok, so this thread is "still" going. Is that an open invitation for me to post more worthless dribble just for the sake of breaking some BBS record or is there still some intent "still" worth considering?
Ill be back in the morning for a consensus. Or a quarum, whatver your cultural requirements may be.
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Originally posted by SunTracker
I can almost gurantee that muslim terrorists are going to use this video as propoganda and recruiting material. Makes the Americans look like monsters.
Huh? What's the sales pitch then? Join up,impress your friends,this could be you!
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Oh My™, please don't stop Mr Black! LOL, Airhead I owe you a drink for that entertainment.
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You Idiots don't even know when you have been had .
Very sad really.:rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by mrblack
You Idiots don't even know when you have been had .
Very sad really.:rofl :rofl
Very sad, indeed.
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Originally posted by mrblack
...you will never understand how really stupid you have looked while I have been toying with you...
You say so Pugsly, aka RG51/MrBlack/etc.
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Originally posted by Furious
You say so Pugsly, aka RG51/MrBlack/etc.
I do say so and thank you:aok
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I crown thee Tardius Maximus...
:aok :rofl
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Someone bring back that owned picture. Good stuff....:D
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PLease Mr.Black.... this heroic stand is nothing short of... well it's Homeric! Just Homeric! Never since the charge of the 600 has there been such bravery under fire.
Please never ever give in.
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=100496&referrerid=3089
second page - near the bottom.
I think this was known since november! :cool:
excellent display of pwn4ge though, Airhead :)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
PLease Mr.Black.... this heroic stand is nothing short of... well it's Homeric! Just Homeric! Never since the charge of the 600 has there been such bravery under fire.
Please never ever give in.
Give in LOL hardley.
My diception was so good that they can't even realize that the joke was on them LOL.
Maybe It was just too much for them I don't know .
But least to say I have proven my point.
And my point is they have responded just as I wanted them to.
Although I had to put myself In a negetive light to do this It was worth It.
I have also proven the hypocracy of most of the posters on this board.
I for one have never changed my views they reamin the same.
Although I have had to change my name due to being baned LOL.
I was not hiding from anything.
But to regain access to the board Skuzzy said I must change handles.
Enuff said you have been used In my little experiment thank you for you'r time :rofl
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Extremely Homeric!!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Extremely Homeric!!
Really sad that you can't see the big picture.
I thought you where smarter than that.
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Yep, you sure got us. I guess we're just too dumb to know it, with our spelling and our punctuation and our consistent logic. They're holding us back, right?
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enlighten us mrblack... what have we fallen for? I want to see some quotes.
You LOSE. Good game.. even if it was a shut out.
I suppose you think you won this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=100167&referrerid=3089), too eh?
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Yep, you sure got us. I guess we're just too dumb to know it, with our spelling and our punctuation and our consistent logic. They're holding us back, right?
Look foward to meeting you at the Con.
maybe I can buy you a spinal board :D
J/K I will buy you a beer:lol
You must have not read the entire thread.
Although subtal It should seem obviouse
The fact that you clowns can't see or admit that you indeed have been had Is cracking me up.
And you kow another thing I learned In my expirement?
That just as In high school there Is a Pack mentality here.
In other words I freely admit to being un popular
And because I am everyone will jump on the band wagon and attack me Even If confronted with over whelming proof.
And If you really want to look at the bigger picture Here .
Neither side should really be able to claim victory
because there Is no way to prove or disprove any of It.
So before engaging your little finger on the keyboard sit there and think for a moment.
Then If you still feel like your right and Im wrong.
I can atleast respect you decision.
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Originally posted by Octavius
enlighten us mrblack... what have we fallen for? I want to see some quotes.
You LOSE. Good game.. even if it was a shut out.
I suppose you think you won this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=100167&referrerid=3089), too eh?
Dude that was the most fun Ive had on this board yet LOL.
Acually thats where I learned to respect you "just a little bit".
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STAY DOWN ROCK, STAY DOWN!!!
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
STAY DOWN ROCK, STAY DOWN!!!
LOL funked your a funny kid!!
But then again If I wanted to listen to a funny kid I would have taken off the rubbers a long time ago:aok
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Just what exactly are we not "seeing" ? I'm serious... failing to see your side. How you "duped us good!" is beyond me.
Originally posted by mrblack
Neither side should really be able to claim victory
because there Is no way to prove or disprove any of It.
Which part? Your claiming to have no affiliation with "rc51" was disproven twice already.
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No MrBlack... YOU'VE been duped!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I meant for you to react to my reaction to your reaction just as you reacted....
Sucker!!
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...this is like seeing a preview for "Rocky 17"...nooo! Just put the gloves DOOOWWN
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Originally posted by Octavius
Just what exactly are we not "seeing" ? I'm serious... failing to see your side. How you "duped us good!" is beyond me.
Which part? Your claiming to have no affiliation with "rc51" was disproven twice already.
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
You Tards brought that up .
So freekin what I have hade different names If you read the post you will know why.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
No MrBlack... YOU'VE been duped!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I meant for you to react to my reaction to your reaction just as you reacted....
Sucker!!
Alright now !!! thats more like it LOL.
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errr..... in !
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Neither side should really be able to claim victory
because there Is no way to prove or disprove any of [bIt.[/b]
^ You said that, did you not?
What can we not prove or disprove?! Your denial of your other alias is IN THIS THREAD. We PROVED you are indeed rc51.
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Originally posted by Octavius
^ You said that, did you not?
What can we not prove or disprove?! Your denial of your other alias is IN THIS THREAD. We PROVED you are indeed rc51.
Odd If i read the thread correctly I see you first attacking any statement I made concerning killing of enemies while I was In the Army.
And after repeted request to YOU octavius that went unanswered to either prove me wrong or right .
I guess being as you could not keep up your silliness on that subject you decided to attack from another angle.
Ths whole thing about my multiple handle Is fairly common knowlege.
As it has been posted lond ago by others.
Now I know your ADD problem is holding you back but please try and stay up with the class.
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To be able to accept defeat inrichest far greater that to relish
in the victory.
MRBLACK 10-30-03
Truer words have never been mangled.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Truer words have never been mangled.
Well If I ever care about what anyone from Kalifornia thinks I will let you know at that time If I care LOL
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Originally posted by mrblack
Odd If i read the thread correctly I see you first attacking any statement I made concerning killing of enemies while I was In the Army.
And after repeted request to YOU octavius that went unanswered to either prove me wrong or right .
I guess being as you could not keep up your silliness on that subject you decided to attack from another angle.
Ths whole thing about my multiple handle Is fairly common knowlege.
As it has been posted lond ago by others.
Now I know you ADD problem is holding you back but please try and stay up with the class.
rc51, you never challenged me. You referring to "us" or "you tards." You seem to have picked the "sides" of this thread: mrblack and anyone who isnt mrblack. Arbitrary pronouns do not work when multiple topics are being discussed. Learn to debate on teh intardnet first.
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Octavius you are correct sir!
I got you mixed up with Airhead.
You know you morons all sound alike to me:aok
J/K You know I really enjoy our little sparring matches dont you?
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You know you may not like me or my polotics.
But I can assure you I am the one guy you would want to be with If some prettythangholes Decided they wanted to kick your butts in a parking lot somewhere.
I may not like every one here on this board.
But I can tell you that I respect each and every one of your rights to your opinions and however silly I may think you are You are human beings worthy of everything I am.
I got over myself a long time ago.
Thats good advice :aok
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time to break this out?
(http://www.serapion.com/wray/chat/seal.gif)
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MrBlack,
Are you Wobble/theFatz's evil coworker??
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This is like driving by a horrible auto accident. You know you shouldn't slow down to look, but you just can't help it.
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See Funked, I told you. By placing people on ignore you miss some of the most amazingly brilliantly beautiful acts of stupidity.
(http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek5.gif)
-SW
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Scorpion bite.
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I remember a night we had guard duty over the mobility bags... 3 of us sitting there for 8 hours bored senseless. One guy proceded to tell us about how he never fights... he'd rather just run away. I said, "well, occasionally you have to fight... it's just the way it is." The 3rd guy just nodded. What happened next is something right out of the mrblack handbook: The guy who never fights said, "I only run so that I can come back at him with a running start. It gives me the advantage."
I bet he though he'd pulled one over on us too.
MiniD
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If any man says he hates war more than I do, he better have a knife, that's all I have to say. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward. If I was the head of a country that lost a war, and I had to sign a peace treaty, just as I was signing I'd glance over the treaty and then suddenly act surprised. "Wait a minute! I thought WE won!" I remember when I was in the army, we had the toughest drill sergeant in the world. He'd get right up next to your face and yell, and if you didn't have the right answers, mister, you'd be peeling potatoes or changing the latrine. Hey, wait. I wasn't in the army. Then who WAS that guy?!
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Wait, so mrblack is Jack Handey?!
This just got confusing........ well, not really.
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Mr. Black/ RC51,
Don't ever change, man. This has been the most funny (in a wierd way) thread that I've personally seen on this BBS. Only you could possibly pull this off.
Special thnx to Airhead and co for their contributions LOL
~S~!
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Mr. Black/ RC51,
Don't ever change, man. This has been the most funny (in a wierd way) thread that I've personally seen on this BBS. Only you could possibly pull this off.
Special thnx to Airhead and co for their contributions LOL
~S~!
LOL and the funny part Is thay don't know that they are part of this continuing joke LOL.
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Originally posted by mrblack
LOL and the funny part Is thay don't know that they are part of this continuing joke LOL.
Perhaps the most ironic thing anyone has ever said.
MiniD
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This is getting sad; Please lock this crap.
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Originally posted by mrblack
LOL and the funny part Is thay don't know that they are part of this continuing joke LOL.
The truly sad/funny part is how absolutely clueless one can be when presented with the actual facts/truth of the situation. Sometimes the ego gets in the way of good judgement.
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I'm not certain. The old "coworker stole my password and posted under my name" was awfully, awfully good.