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Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: IHham on January 15, 2004, 05:39:42 PM
Heh, last night, I had a funny experience. I was upping from a field, and I was about to get vulched, so I exited the plane. I kept doing this to blow off the 190's speed and alt so my friendlies can get an easier kill. Behold, I get called a dweeb for not letting him vulch me, and he was the idiot to blow his energy and die. Looks like there is a new form of dweebery, the "not letting me get an easy kill because I suck at air to air combat" dweeb

Oh, you want the name, I don't have it, but the last 4 letters of his name was "star" or str


Ahh.. the joys of channel 1
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Grits on January 15, 2004, 06:02:00 PM
Popping up to tease a vulcher and then disappearing is ALMOST[/b] as fun as vulchin itself! Keep up the good work. :aok
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Monty405 on January 15, 2004, 06:30:49 PM
--== WHACK A MOLE ==--
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Steve on January 15, 2004, 07:08:14 PM
playing peek-a-boo is tardlike and gamey.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: TweetyBird on January 15, 2004, 07:16:17 PM
Yea, and flying down a runway at 400 ias hoping something something pops up isn't:aok
Title: Re: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Godzilla on January 15, 2004, 07:20:47 PM
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Originally posted by IHham
Heh, last night, I had a funny experience. I was upping from a field, and I was about to get vulched, so I exited the plane. I kept doing this to blow off the 190's speed and alt so my friendlies can get an easier kill.  


This is no different than the the tactics of REAL WWII fighter pilots. They would make the enemy blow  E by dissapearing over and over again on the runway.

Might be good to make planes taxi to hanger or a pad before they can end a mission.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: NoBaddy on January 15, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
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Originally posted by Steve
playing peek-a-boo is tardlike and gamey.



True...but it can be a real hoot too :D.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: TweetyBird on January 15, 2004, 08:59:23 PM
Yea, and if a vulcher falls for it, it reflects on his inexperience.  Most people wait till the vulchee starts moving to commit. Can't exit to tower if you're moving. But I guess if someone's just flying the runway he doesn't want to bother with timing or patience. Nah, that would be tough.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: T1loady on January 15, 2004, 11:04:03 PM
i agree with Steve,  It is gamey,  you didnt see a pilot jump out of his plane OTR in real life,  however i do think it is funny to see everyone dive on the plane and then it disappears. I usually wait till a plane is is rolling a bit before I become  the vulching dweeb...


SkipNutz:aok
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: TweetyBird on January 15, 2004, 11:17:29 PM
In AW we'd pop out and come back as a flak - can't do that here :)
Its based on WWII but its still a sim. Anyone repeatedly trying to vulch a disappearing plane is the dweeb - not the guy exiting to tower. I mean even dogs learn to respond a dinner bell. You pass twice and the plane vanishes, if you don't notice a pattern by the 3rd time, well you're gonna have problems in other areas. Gamey? maybe. But a heck of a lot more inteligent than the the vulcher thinking "ill' get him this time for sure!":aok :rofl

Think about it - lead turns at 1000 yards are gamey, but net lag. Quick 45 degree turns (timed right) while getting run down are gamey - again - net lag. At times the rules of the sim and the environment it exists in, must take precedence.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Wolfala on January 16, 2004, 12:52:21 AM
So you were the Zero whos friends I got 13 kills with....  I thought you were hilarious as my friends fired in frustration :)
Title: another form of dweeb...
Post by: LWACE on January 16, 2004, 01:51:03 AM
Tonight i was flyin out of A45, rooks were comin in pairs or lil groups so i was in a 190D-9, this P-38 comes down from high alt so i wait around about 7-8k for him to get done chasing people and blowing his E, sure enough he starts to climb out so i fly over to him and he sees me and attemps to run but it dont work, so hes trys to rope me, big mistake considering his low E and my high E.

I blow off his wing and other parts, and what do i see appear on ch. 1, haha thats sad loser knit 190 using no tracers or something to that effect, and he went on and on about how i killed him with no tracers, and that if i had tracers on he probably would have killed me:rofl :lol

Most this was enjoyment as i was laughin so hard, i couldnt believe it, Get called a dweeb for using no tracers, he told me i had no skill and that this game was fake cuz in "RL" alll pilots used tracers, his name was Scremn
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Pooh21 on January 16, 2004, 02:42:21 AM
I use a 234 for peek a boo. Funny how quick those niki dweebs haul their stick into thier gut, their life goal, they can vulch a 234!


wait til they fire

sucker!
Title: Re: Re: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Pepe on January 16, 2004, 03:04:26 AM
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Originally posted by Godzilla
This is no different than the the tactics of REAL WWII fighter pilots. They would make the enemy blow  E by dissapearing over and over again on the runway.

Might be good to make planes taxi to hanger or a pad before they can end a mission.



Ah, yeah!...Yes, I can attest they were real tactics in WWII. I've got documents that demonstrate it. Especially the one taken from a Fort's belly gunner, that saw the same guy doing the pop-out thinghy while straffing the runway in his plane flying 100 ft. over the enemy base. (Oh! he mention too, as strange as it can sound, every single gunner in the 3-ship formation was shooting EXACTLY at the same point, and the enemies were popping out pony after pony...can you believe it?). Unfortunately, this guy died when his crazy pilot attempted to dive-bomb a carrier, I think it was in the Pacific Theater. Dunno, because the coastline was funny looking.

Might be good not to whine about history in a MA environment. ;)
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: lazs2 on January 16, 2004, 08:22:14 AM
peek a boo is not only gamey but cruel...  If yu do it to rooks you may have blown the only kill he would get that hour...  no wonder his frustration came out!  

perhaps we should model a faster plane so that the rooks can get to the vultch faster and get away better.   That would help and compliment the numbers strat.

lazs
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 16, 2004, 08:43:26 AM
Lol.  I have more luck in the air then vulching.  So I say that I have morals and don't vulch.  In truth it's because i'll probably crash.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: T1loady on January 16, 2004, 11:58:11 AM
You always talk about rook this rook that.  I have been vulched by Knit and Bish.  I have been H/O'd by Bish And Knit.  I have seen alt monkeys from every team in this game.  All 3 countrys pork ammo and fuel.  Everyone has guys who fly nothing but the Niki, or guys (like me) who dont fight a stupid turn fight in a D9, and get called a puss for it.  All 3 countries have dweebs and all 3 have great pilots.   Do you what to know what all three coutries do best...   Blame the other guy for their problems or why there score isnt #1   ...  Shut up and fly..  

SkipNutz
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: 11dano11 on January 16, 2004, 12:47:52 PM
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LWACE --"blow off his wing and other parts, and what do i see appear on ch. 1, haha thats sad loser knit 190 using no tracers or something to that effect, and he went on and on about how i killed him with no tracers, and that if i had tracers on he probably would have killed me"--
I was there and remember it.  Couldn't believe it, bit watched the exchange none the less.:lol

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My favorite vulch story -- absolutely 100% true.  

One evening about a year ago, we had pushed the **mumble mumble** back to their own field -- A43 on Mindinao or some such -- and were working hard to cap it.  We'd gotten most of the ack down, but they were still coming up hard to defend.  This night DamnedDoc is flying with us.  Now Doc doesn't get up too much, being bed ridden for the past few years, and the chemo hasn't helped his skills or endurance, but he does love flying with us when he can, if simply to goon.  Well, his bird got shot up, so he bailed, right over the enmne field, and lands smack on the runway.  

Doc, being Doc, decided not to replane but to simply run around the enme field to watch the ongoing action.  Soon enough, one of the **mumble** defenders sees Doc's con on the runway, assumes it's some sort of threat, dives in for the strafe, and promptly augures trying to hit that teeny little figure.  To Doc's delight, he gets a proximity kill.

Then another one does the same thing.  Doc gets another kill.

Then another.

And another.  Right about now Doc is starting to laugh his butt off on vox, describing the action.

And another.

And another.  Now all of us are watching Doc running in circles on their field, with enme planes already too low trying to strafe an ant and lawn darting in the process.

Doc finally racked up a >>>10 kill sortie<<< before finally getting kilt, and without firing a shot.  

Needless to say it made his night, and ours as well.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: lazs2 on January 16, 2004, 01:22:29 PM
if you fly a deeee 9 then you have chosen to be one of the rooks I am talking about.... dee 9 with a 20% numbers advantage.

lazs
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: T1loady on January 16, 2004, 03:40:12 PM
Hey Laz2, then I guess I am guilty.....


SkipNutz
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: slimm50 on January 16, 2004, 03:44:44 PM
WOLFALA, could you make your avatar a bit longer, please, before it repeats?:D
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Wolfala on January 16, 2004, 10:40:58 PM
I would, but as I am being regulated by "The Man" I best be on my best behavior :)
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Oldman731 on January 17, 2004, 09:54:56 AM
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Originally posted by Grits
Popping up to tease a vulcher and then disappearing is ALMOST as fun as vulchin itself! Keep up the good work. :aok [/B]

This is SUCH a great idea, why didn't I hear of it before?

Anything that frustrates vulchers is a good thing, in my book.  Will have to try this.

- oldman
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Grits on January 17, 2004, 11:12:29 AM
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Originally posted by Oldman731
This is SUCH a great idea, why didn't I hear of it before?

Anything that frustrates vulchers is a good thing, in my book.  Will have to try this.

- oldman


I must admit that I love a good vulch, and will do it any time I have the chance, but I dont pretend it takes any skill. Someone was playing peek-a-boo in the CT last night in an FM2 trying to pull me into the ack, but I didnt take the bait.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: FBYeoman on January 17, 2004, 10:41:12 PM
Figures. lol.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Steve on January 17, 2004, 11:56:01 PM
Hmm maybe this is an acceptable action on pizza at least... I mean.. .it sux anyway.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: Fariz on January 18, 2004, 04:40:31 AM
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Originally posted by Grits
I must admit that I love a good vulch, and will do it any time I have the chance, but I dont pretend it takes any skill.


Vulch requires skill. As the vulched field defence does.

Difference between skillsful and regular vulcher is that skillsful will get 15 kills with one clip and land them, while regular will get 3 or 4, and then normally die due to a killshoot, auger, or a HO with a taking up hurri.

For example, skillful vulcher will not waste his ammo on a spawner, he will either ignore him, or make a fake runs forcing the spawner to land again and again. Skillful vulcher normally do not attack plane before it starts moving on the runway. Skillful vulcher knows how to position himselve after each attack, can keep his energy perfectly, can control situation for not to be catched with a "vulchers vulchers", and spend no more than a few rounds for each kills.

Skillful field defenders know how and where to spawn, how to force the vulchers into the attack which will end with a HO, and can push every single bit of energy out of a plane to finds a split second of gun solution against a vulcher.

Both will be called dweebs. It is normall for AH, to be called a dweeb. In fact, it is a kind of a merit. If you are called a dweeb (or, what is even better, a hacker), it means your opponents do not have enough skills to oppose you in a rational maner, and have to rationalize their unability to prevent you from doing what you want to do.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: IHham on January 18, 2004, 02:02:35 PM
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Originally posted by TW9
hehe i'd do it with 262s and arados.. good way to get a few of the vulchers to dart themselves :D .. I usually only do it if my country is about to lose reset and all our fields are porked or capped.. Gotta find joy somehow...



Wow, atleast we know bomber perks are good for something.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: AVRO1 on January 19, 2004, 07:31:07 PM
T1loady, dont get upset with lazs2's comments, he's just the village idiot :D.
Title: Dweeb for not getting vulched?
Post by: lazs2 on January 20, 2004, 08:05:05 AM
well... if I were I wouldn't pick quebec for my village... to much competition.

lazs