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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Grits on January 16, 2004, 11:50:08 AM
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Anybody in AH know what those are? Anybody tried it?
Buff gunners seem to be pretty lethal so it ought to work fairly well. A20 and B26 should be pretty good Bloodpigs and the B17 is the obvious choice for the Deathstar. All of the Buffs in AH can easily be looped, even the Lanc and B17, with an empty bomb load, just dont accidently hit the "level autopilot" in a 300 knot dive, you tend to turn into a giant ICBM.
Formations would also be nice for some force multiplication but that wont work because the Ottopilot planes wont follow you through a loop. Wanna know how I know?;)
As an aside, anybody know why we dont have a "Load nothing" option on the Buffs? I cant imagine why HT would assume we always want bombs in a B17. :D
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B-17 in AW was better at being a bloodpig. The Mitchell was a pretty good Deathstar.
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LOL, I think this thread is going to go downhill fast. :D BTW...what's a bloodpig?
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IIRC, back in GEnie times, one could kill the ack and park an a26 at the end of the nme's runway, killing all that upped--the bloodpig--sort of the AW version of spawn camping.
I definitely miss the ability to have more than one gunner in a buff, complete w/ intercom.
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Oh man, that's beautiful...I miss the days when buff guns worked with your wheels on the ground and bombs would instantly arm and detonate. Dweeby as hell, but still good clean american fun! :)
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I once joked that a squad vs squad battle should involve B-17s at 20k alt. Much pirate humor followed. The next week, there was an arena set up specifically for that purpose.
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Originally posted by Horn
IIRC, back in GEnie times, one could kill the ack and park an a26 at the end of the nme's runway, killing all that upped--the bloodpig--sort of the AW version of spawn camping.
Yup, thats it exactly. The difference between that and spawncamping as done in AH is that in AW nobody did it to improve K/D or score in any way, it was strictly for personal entertainment/pi$$ing off the enema which is always fun.
Any buff gunners that see me up and want to try it, give me a holla.
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notam: buff guns in AH do not work on the ground, so it's not gonna be easy.
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Originally posted by Grits
The difference between that and spawncamping as done in AH is that in AW nobody did it to improve K/D or score in any way, it was strictly for personal entertainment/pi$$ing off the enema which is always fun.
Actually I spawn camp in AH solely for personal entertainment and griping the nme. Getting Rod367 torqued enough at you to game the game and come and try to kill ya by divebombing low Lancs is priceless... :D
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Originally posted by SOB
Oh man, that's beautiful...I miss the days when buff guns worked with your wheels on the ground and bombs would instantly arm and detonate. Dweeby as hell, but still good clean american fun! :)
I programed my joystick to:
open bomb bay doors
switch to 4K bomb (in Lanc)
drop bomb
exit/end flight before bomb hit the runway.
I spent a few hours working out the timing on the joystick command. When I went online I could spawn and press one key. The whole "sortie" would take about 1 second and I could usually frag a vulcher without taking damage myself. The very next day a new release came out and wouldn't you know it, bombs had to travel 500' before arming!
eskimo
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But it seems to me that anything with tricycle landing gear would do the trick, since I believe the A20 can still fire it's forward armament on the ground? but a P38 would certainly work. :)
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I'm only talking about flying around stallfighting an A20/B17 with a gunner, not spawncamping although you can kill stuff while you are on the ground with the A20 forward guns. I got a kill on a Mossie parked on a field anticipating a capture and killed half the troops dropped on a field last night in the CT just from driving around on the ground in an A20. The 47 pilot came up 30 seconds after I kilt his troops and asked "Why didnt we get that field???" I was ROFL. Tricicle gear is great. :aok
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ROFL eskimo! Thats beautiful. Carbombing was hi-larious. HT should bring it back :D
Grits, I have a sudden urge to dogfight with a B17. If anyone sees me online and wants to gun, lets go pwn some unsuspecting fools from the chin turret :D
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LOL Eskimo, that's inspired genius!
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Originally posted by Grits
Anybody in AH know what those are? Anybody tried it?
'Blood Pig' was spawn camping with an attack plane (A-26) and would be hard to do in AH with multiple spawn points. Every spawn camper in every game since AW has a little 'Blood Pig' in him though.
'Death Star' was a B-17 with a full load of 6(?) gunners in AW. I think 1 good gunner in AH with all the guns slaved to him is more deadly but not as fun as a group of gunners on 1 plane.
'Blood Dragon' was orbiting a field at low alt with a 'Death Star' and vulching with gunners. I don't think I have seen this in AH but it should be possible after VH and ack are down.
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I have seen B-17s strafing AFs in AH, but with a gunner it would be easy to just circle the AF while the gunner blasts anything on the ground ... like an AC-130.
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Originally posted by Montezuma
'Blood Dragon' was orbiting a field at low alt with a 'Death Star' and vulching with gunners. I don't think I have seen this in AH but it should be possible after VH and ack are down.
Hey! I forgot about those! That is definately doable in AH.
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My favorite way to grief with a buff was back in AW and involved dropping bombs while sitting on the spawnpoint of a runway. In those days, not only would the bombs explode, but if you dropped all your bombs at once, they automatically appeared in a long line on the ground out in front of you, even if you weren't moving. Thus, your bombs would explode down the whole length of the runway.
What made this such a perfect griefing tool was that while your bombs wouldn't hurt a friendly airfield, they could still kill friendly planes.:aok: So what you'd do was wait for a whole squad to start launching, drop the bombs, and immediately exit your plane. Thus, you wouldn't be flying when they exploded and killed everybody, so these frags didn't count against you for PNG purposes. This enabled you to do this over and over. :cool:
So what you did was go to the kiddie pool arena and convince a bunch of guys to fly with you on a mission, them all in fighters and you in a buff. The plan would be for them to fly a little ahead of you to clear the way. Then you'd let them get about 1/2way down the runway to give yourself more time to end the flight before the bombs exploded, and salvo your load. Then you'd all be back in the tower wondering WTF? You'd play to be just as surprised as them :confused: and eventually, you'd all try it again with the same tragic results :D. This could go on 3 or 4 times before they began to suspect you, and then you could play dumb like you were a brand new dweeb. Such as "Yeah, I hit the B key. Ain't that to release the brakes to take off?" This would usually get you 1 or 2 more shots at them. :lol:
Back in the day, the Bops used to host a small Con every year and the Kesmoids would show up. And we'd get snot-slinging drunk and start doing this to the kiddies and laughing our tulips off. We'd each take a couple of turns, milking the same herd of dweebs. One time, it got way past the "I'm a newby" stage and the victims finally KNEW we were doing it on purpose. But the map was small, they had to fly from this field to do what they wanted, and we kept blowing them up repeatedly. Their curses were hilarious and we were all rolling. Finally, one of the victims screamed "I'M GONNA TELL BLUE BARON ABOUT THIS!!!!" And it was Blue Baron himself who'd just blown them all away :rofl:
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Originally posted by Bullethead
Their curses were hilarious and we were all rolling. Finally, one of the victims screamed "I'M GONNA TELL BLUE BARON ABOUT THIS!!!!" And it was Blue Baron himself who'd just blown them all away :rofl:
I miss those days. The A26 was great fun in the kiddie pool too because with the no spins/stalls it would loop tighter than a Zeke for a turn or two if you threw out the flaps and gear. You can not (maybe you can) imagine the howls of "cheater" and "your hacking" when you hose them down in an A26.
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Grits said:
I miss those days.
Me too :(. Today everything's totally wimpified, whupped, and castrated. Who let all these sissy kids and mommasboys on my internet anyway? Hell, back in the day, damn never everything we did on a regular basis would get us banned in a heartbeat today :mad:. It's disgusting. But back in the day, all that Evil stuff was not only an accepted part of the game, but a large part of the attraction.
The A26 was great fun in the kiddie pool too because with the no spins/stalls it would loop tighter than a Zeke for a turn or two if you threw out the flaps and gear. You can not (maybe you can) imagine the howls of "cheater" and "your hacking" when you hose them down in an A26.
Hehehe, yeah, I did that a couple times. But I hardly ever tried to really fly in the kiddie pool cuz I always got wasted due to habits from the real arena. I'd think I had a safe alt advantage over some dweeb and next thing I knew he'd zoom up forever and nail me. So I just went there to grief :).
Another good kiddie pool Vader trick was the fragging gunner. What you'd do was again convince a bunch of soon-to-be-victims to fly with you, but you had a gunner they didn't know about. And shortly after takeoff, your gunner would frag one of your wingmen. In those days you couldn't see anybody else's tracer and of course your gunner had no icon. So the victim would just see "XXXX shot you down" and think it was an nme that got him.
Then everybody'd circle back to the field to pick up the dead guy as he re-upped. There'd be speculation as to how he died because nobody'd seen anything even on dar. But the host sometimes did strange things so they'd shrug it off. So the dead guy would get back in formation and die shortly afterwards to XXXX again. This would really get everybody's suspicions going.
And then your gunner would get on ch1 and act like he was a hacker. He'd say he had an invisible plane, the ability to see nme pilot names instead of plane types, and a serious grudge against the victim, whom he was hunting down. Then serious Hate would flow on ch1, not only with the chosen victim but his buddies and a bunch of others on ch1 who would join in saying how hackers sucked. It would end up getting very ugly :D. Meanwhile, between typing Hate, your gunner would be blasting anybody who happened along as well as the initial victim. That huge ammo load in the kiddie pool went a long way :aok.
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wow i remember loading the 416th into a b24?
was slower that other buffs but looped great thus extending survivall alot hehe.
finding a enemy base and engaging all comers woot.
still a alltime high.