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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on January 18, 2004, 12:03:41 AM
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We've all seen it in here, people calling Bush "Hitler". I want to set the record straight...
Hitler: Decorated soldier who served at the front lines in WW1.
Bush: Texas Air National Guard during Vietnam War(failed to complete obligations and discharged after punishment).
Hitler: Never refused a drug test.
Bush: Failed show for Flight Physical after drug tests were added.
Hitler: Elected to office democraticly.
Bush: Installed to office after losing popular vote.
Hitler: Had a moustache.
Bush: No moustache.
Hitler: Survived assination attempt by Military leadership.
Bush: Survived a Mr. Salty pretzel.
Hitler: Was "Most hated Leader worldwide in a Dictatorship".
Bush: Is "Most hated Leader worldwide in a Democracy".
Hitler: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator"
Bush: "God told me to strike at Al Qa'ida and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did. With the might of God on our side we will triumph."
Hitler: Demonized first Czechoslovakia and then Poland as threats to the national security, before invading and laying waste to each.
Bush: Demonized first Afghanistan and then Iraq as threats to the national security, before invading and laying waste to each.
Hitler: Launched an assault on Constitutional freedoms, one under the guise of "Fatherland Security"
Bush: Launched an assault on Constitutional freedoms, one under the guise of "Homeland Security"
(http://falloutshelternews.com/images/bushlikeness.jpg)
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Wow - you are actually trying to draw a comparison?
Thats really, really sad, man.
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No silly, he was showing how they AREN'T the same! Didn't you read his post?
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there goes the last of ur credibility rpm
maybe ur so ignorant you do not realize what you do...
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It's really gonna suck for you if Bush wins the electoral collge vote again in 2004, isn't it?
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It's really gonna suck for you if Bush wins the electoral collge vote again in 2004, isn't it?
yes, and it will continue to suck for another 4 (at least for the majority of americans)
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Originally posted by Eagler
there goes the last of ur credibility rpm
I had credibility? :eek:
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This post is about Bush NOT being like Hitler.
So you who object think otherwise ??!
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and it will continue to suck for another 4 (at least for the majority of americans)
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Not that I agree with you but just because your a majority does that automatically mean you are right?
If the majority of americans agreed that the 2nd amendmant needed to be abolished should I turn in my firearms or use them?
Just a thought :aok
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Originally posted by rpm371
I had credibility? :eek:
Not necessarily ;)
culero (cheers!)
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Originally posted by Yeager
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If the majority of americans agreed that the 2nd amendmant needed to be abolished should I turn in my firearms or use them?
Neither, their opinion would be irrelevant.
culero (it takes more than that!)
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To compare Bush with Hitler is simply wrong. Bush does not decide what he does he's just a little dumb puppet. Hitler decided what he did he wasnt a puppet.
Furtheron comparisons with Hitler are always pathetic crap and this is whats for conservatives, not democrats.
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any use of the hitler argument will be rejected in the minds of the undecided. claiming that your enemy is abject evil embodyed is a dead end path.
as duedel said this is a conservative argument we dont need them. quoting mr bushws life history most notibly in my case his desertion from the military because of his cocain addiction is quite enough.
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Hitler invaded USSR "In defense of Europe against communism."
lol!
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I believe it is meant to be a joke. Actually quite good.
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A joke? I'm sure the jews find it amusing. Maybe they figure Bush is ready to begin gassing all of Israel? Perhaps those many Europeans countries that Hitler invaded see the parallel too? Sorry RPM, not funny, just dumb.
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"The bigger the lie,the more people will believe it."
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no...boosh iz ze great ghengis khan :rolleyes:
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Hey I didn't see any of you high and mighties complaining when Rush called feminists "Feminazi" What about the "deanie's brownshirts" comment in the nypost?
all must be denounced, or hypocrisy results.
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You repubs really should get a sense of humour. It seems to be sorely lacking these days.
yowser
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Is there anything else Hitler did that President Bush didn't?
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win a fight with france.
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was watching a Dean rally on Tv, the deanists were chanting "dean-dean-dean", i had a flash back to newsreels of germans chanting "sieg heil-sieg heil-sieg heil"
dean said he was going to "take back the country" (for our own good, of course)
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Quote:
"was watching a Dean rally on Tv.."
I thought i was watching a "Dean rally" on TV as well, but it turned out i was mistaken. It was actually a Michael Jackson "support rally". Easy mistake to make.
The people in attendance at the MJ rally looked like the same bunch of ****-for-brains, granola-crunching wackos that go to "Dean rallies", "anti-war protests", "environmental protests", "anti-globalist protests", "protest protests," etc., ad nauseum....
C.
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Originally posted by Duedel
To compare Bush with Hitler is simply wrong. Bush does not decide what he does he's just a little dumb puppet. Hitler decided what he did he wasnt a puppet.
Furtheron comparisons with Hitler are always pathetic crap and this is whats for conservatives, not democrats.
So if I read you right, you're saying only conservatives compare people to Hitler.
Have you any idea why this is outrageously hilarious?
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Well I have tried mightily to avoid these discussions primarily because I don't have the time, patience or desire to spend that precious time and patience in a debate with pathetic leftists who insist that any conservative is the embodiment of nazism. However, the more I read of this forum, I determined that sooner or later one of the intellectually bereft liberals around here would tweak me enough to obtain a response and sure enough, here it is. I had money on gsholtz or lord dork vader being the ones to incite me. By posting this list, you do exactly what you are proclaiming you are NOT doing and that is offering a side by side comparison of President Bush to Adolph Hitler.
I have seen numerous specious claims of President Bush failing to fulfill his National Guard duties but no proof. Provide the proof or are you denigrating service in the National Guard? There is absolute proof that he served, none that he failed in his obligations, merely rumors, missing paperwork and failing memories. I have tried to obtain my fathers records very recently and guess what. They are not available. Destroyed by fire. Provide the proof or quit citing innuendo.
Hitler: Elected to office democraticly.
Bush: Installed to office after losing popular vote.
You still can't let go of 2000. Hitler was elected democratically. We live in a Constitutional Republic and President Bush was elected within the law. If you don't like the law, work to change it. Don't snivel about the outcome and then force the issue to court which is precisely what algore attempted to do.
Hitler: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator"
Bush: "God told me to strike at Al Qa'ida and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did. With the might of God on our side we will triumph."
I don't recall ever reading that precise quote from the President. If he actually made that statement then please, A) provide the time and place or speech during which the quote was made and B) explain to me what is wrong with the quote if he did make it.
Hitler: Demonized first Czechoslovakia and then Poland as threats to the national security, before invading and laying waste to each.
Neither of which had attacked Germany, an absolutely illogical argument.
Bush: Demonized first Afghanistan and then Iraq as threats to the national security, before invading and laying waste to each.
Is there any doubt that Osama Bin Laden is responsible for the attacks of September 11, 2001? Is there any doubt that he was harbored by the government of Afghanistan? WE WERE ATTACKED!!! What part of that statement fails to penetrate the opacity of your mind? In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks President Bush laid out a doctrine for dealing with terrorists and their sponsors which he has maintained. If you disagree with the Bush Doctrine thats fine, I have some problems with it myself but it is effectively American Policy at this time and distorted comparisons to one of History's greatest mass murderers is specious. Ok so the Iraq war has drawn the ire of leftists everywhere. Well is there any doubt that Saddam sponsored terrorism? Is there any doubt that he was in violation of 17 separate UN resolutions.
The left so often cites the UN as the authority on world relations and insist that we subjugate our sovereignity to them. Where is the outrage when France or China engage in unilateral military actions?
Bush: Launched an assault on Constitutional freedoms, one under the guise of "Homeland Security"
Again, I have serious reservations about the Patriot Act however A) we are at WAR and B) where is the outrage over the actions of socialist/liberal icon FDR during WW2. How many Americans were locked away at anyone of several detention centers "for the duration", without due process.
If you want to dislike the President and his policies thats fine. Lord knows how I disliked IMPEACHED ex-president Clinton and his policies. Please however, keep your hatred in check enough to make lucid arguments otherwise you relegate yourself to sophistic and fallacious statements and comparisons such as those you provided.
Well now that I've blown a sizable amount of precious football Sunday time to a rebuttal, I guess I can go back to remaining out of these left/right threads. Phew...do I feel better though...
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"...The people in attendance at the MJ rally looked like the same bunch of ****-for-brains, granola-crunching wackos that go to "Dean rallies", "anti-war protests", "environmental protests", "anti-globalist protests", "protest protests," etc., ad nauseum.... ".
Cabby calling somebody else a whacko. Now THAT'S funny.
How are those banjo lessons comin' "deliverance boy"?
yowser
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Originally posted by rpm371
Hitler: Demonized first Czechoslovakia and then Poland as threats to the national security, before invading and laying waste to each.
Bush: Demonized first Afghanistan and then Iraq as threats to the national security, before invading and laying waste to each.
LOL
:rofl
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"""before invading and laying waste to each. """
laying waste???
you need to reformat your brain.
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So far my favorite thread of the day... It's always a plus when Cabby chimes in.
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Unlike Hitler, who is long dead by the way for those of you historically impaired, Bush will live out his term of office, mostly likely all 8 years of it.
PFFFFTTTTTT!
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A few questions (perhaps to Holden in particular)
Was it legal for the colonists to rebel against the crown? Could Washington be considered the figurehead of insurrection?
Was it legal for Jackson to mistreat the native americans as he did?
Was it legal for Lincoln to invade the south to preserve the union?
Was it legal for T. Roosevelt to declare war on Spain on such spurious evidence? Or to support the regime change in Panama with US warships?
Was Kennedy reckless and foolish for espousing a policy of containment?
Back on topic, I can draw comparisons between Bush and just about anyone. It ain't that hard or clever.
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Oh boy, my favorite board topic!
LINCOLN WAS A WAR CRIMINAL! :)
culero (TY, TYVM!)
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http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1073908426223
"overall, the comparison is far from exact, lending credence to Karl Marx's famous comment that when history repeats itself, the first time is tragedy, the second, farce"
a liberal using the words of a socialist to contrast a fascist and a conservative.
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Originally posted by Kieran
A few questions (perhaps to Holden in particular)
Was it legal for the colonists to rebel against the crown? Could Washington be considered the figurehead of insurrection?
a) It was illegal as it was insurrection aganst the crown, and the colonies were ruled by King George.
b) yes
Was it legal for Jackson to mistreat the native americans as he did?
a) I thought he was after young boys...seriously, in the laws of the time, I think it was... and by mistreat you do mean kill don't you?
Was it legal for Lincoln to invade the south to preserve the union?
a) Lincoln did many unconstitutional acts, including suspending habeus corpus, which would be considered unconstitutional and therefore illegal, but the preamble of the constitution says "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility", so he may have been justified in order to restore domestic tranquility, as the south fired on union troops first, at Ft Sumpter.
Was it legal for T. Roosevelt to declare war on Spain on such spurious evidence? Or to support the regime change in Panama with US warships?
a) No UN, no UNSC mandate requirement. No authority at the time to hold it illegal, therefore it was legal.
b) When TR said "I took the isthumus", he as much admitted illegality, and the US paid reparations to Columbia for the virtual theft of Panama
Was Kennedy reckless and foolish for espousing a policy of containment?
a) Kennedy was following established and tested US Government policy, set forth (I believe) in the Truman Doctrine, so no.
Back on topic, I can draw comparisons between Bush and just about anyone. It ain't that hard or clever.
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Bitler: Ketchup on fries
Hush: Not a very good fisherman
Bitler: Owns a dog
Hush: Goes to the movies regularly
Bitler: Has been to several weddings
Hush: Has an overbite
Bitler: Lives with his mother
Hush: Has been to Las Vegas
Bitler: Owns a pair of cowboy boots
Hush: Can't drive a car very well
Bitler: Rhymes with Hitler
Hush: Almost rhymes with Bush
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Originally posted by Otto
Is there anything else Hitler did that President Bush didn't?
er better looking girl friend?
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This thread is a monument to the anal reactions.
A nice joke transformed in a flamefest.
LOL
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Originally posted by Kieran
So if I read you right, you're saying only conservatives compare people to Hitler.
Have you any idea why this is outrageously hilarious?
Kieran but u misread it.
The use of pathetic thesis and the intended misinterpretation of posts are properties that clearly are assigned to conservatives.
So (and this is the conclusion) democrats shouldnt use this comparism (cause its pathetic) cause if they would use it they could be confused with conservatives (like u did) and this is what we dont want cause conservative needs a clear foe (i.e. think black and white)
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Originally posted by Naso
This thread is a monument to the anal reactions.
A nice joke transformed in a flamefest.
LOL
It was actually a combo joke/troll and seems to have worked rather nicely. (http://www.katoman.com/green%20hornet%20folder/gh%20photo%20page/tgh2%20page/gh-19.jpg) :rofl
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Is there anything else Hitler did that President Bush didn't?
win a fight with france.
Laughing so hard that it hurts.
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Hey Kieren,
When exactly did TR declare war on Spain?
(Careful, trick question)
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BOOSH IZ ZE GHENGIS KHAN
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He didn't, he fought in it. ;)
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Okay, so McKinley was president when the Maine blew up....
but he didn't declare war on Spain either....
Who did?
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Good Question...
Near as I can tell, it was a joint resolution in the form of an ultimatum to Spain that was signed by McKinley, then considered a declaration of war by Spain.
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Originally posted by culero
Oh boy, my favorite board topic!
LINCOLN WAS A WAR CRIMINAL! :)
culero (TY, TYVM!)
Lincoln was also a separatist... he wanted to reconolize the blacks back to their origins - Africa and away from whitey town.
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Originally posted by Kieran
He didn't, he fought in it. ;)
Shhhhh! don't say that too laudly... you'll wake him up from his fantasy.
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Ack! My hijack has been hijacked! :D
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Good Question...
Near as I can tell, it was a joint resolution in the form of an ultimatum to Spain that was signed by McKinley, then considered a declaration of war by Spain.
In response to McKinley's request,
DECLARATION OF WAR WITH SPAIN
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, First. That war be, and the same is hereby, declared to exist, and that war has existed since the 21st day of April, A. D. 1898, including said day, between the United States of America and the Kingdom of Spain.
Second. That the President of the United States be, and he hereby is, directed and empowered to use the entire land and naval forces of the United States and to call into the actual service of the United States the militia of the several States to such extent as may be necessary to carry this act into effect.
Approved, April 25, 1898.