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Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Max on January 18, 2004, 11:20:45 PM
It's nice to know that you've been able to string together 300 + peeps and roll over maps on Sunday night. Hope you're enjoying the thrill of the horde.

Oh yeah, almost forgot... this isn't a whine.

DmdMax
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Kweassa on January 18, 2004, 11:34:03 PM
Hey Deman! You were right! :D
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Mini D on January 18, 2004, 11:54:40 PM
Wish I coulda shot you down at the end there... but there were alot of other rooks in the area and getting vulches was tough.

MiniD
Title: Re: WTG Rooks
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 19, 2004, 12:08:40 AM
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Originally posted by DMax
It's nice to know that you've been able to string together 300 + peeps and roll over maps on Sunday night. Hope you're enjoying the thrill of the horde.

Oh yeah, almost forgot... this isn't a whine.

DmdMax


sounds like a whine to me.  :p

TBolt
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: B17Skull12 on January 19, 2004, 12:51:40 AM
we had no RJO today.
Title: Re: WTG Rooks
Post by: SoulzofAW3 on January 19, 2004, 01:31:51 AM
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Originally posted by DMax
Oh yeah, almost forgot... this isn't a whine.

DmdMax





Suuuuure:aok
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: kbman on January 19, 2004, 03:21:27 AM
The yowls and caterwalling of the nits was truly exquisite tonight...classic.

kbman
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 19, 2004, 06:01:43 AM
Hey, at least the Knights don't have to have 2x more then the other sides to win a map.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Kweassa on January 19, 2004, 06:36:28 AM
Believe me, many of Rooks are damn frustrated about all the excessive "fat" on our bellies, too.

 The fight in the Knit territories were superbly dull, while the fight against the Bish who apparently decided to steal the reset, was diabolical.

 The only reason we reset Knits before Bish stole it, was there were squads who knew what to do operating in the Knit front, systematically pounding Knit fields to submission.

 ..

 But who cares.

 I lost a 262 to a reset, while defending a field from hordes of Bish, knocking down 6 Goons while surrounded by 25 Bish. Man, that hurt. Host connection lost, just when the wheels touched the runway and the 262 was rolling to a stop.. arrrgh!!
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Max on January 19, 2004, 09:15:29 AM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
we had no RJO today.


It's become inbred genetic behavior Skull. B F Skinner published lots of material on lemming hordes ...go have a read :D

----Oh yeah, almost forgot, this is not a whine :)
Title: Re: WTG Rooks
Post by: Virage on January 19, 2004, 09:44:28 AM
Another Diaper Damnedy
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Originally posted by DMax
It's nice to know that you've been able to string together 300 + peeps and roll over maps on Sunday night. Hope you're enjoying the thrill of the horde.

Oh yeah, almost forgot... this isn't a whine.

DmdMax
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: hedbang on January 20, 2004, 12:47:58 PM
You guys gotta keep in mind that a good percentage of people in Rookland weren't really rooks.   One side will always get jumpers when a reset is close.

And for the pizza map, the only time it will ever be reset is when one country has big numbers like we did Sunday night.  All intelligent Rooks realized how the numbers helped us out.

HedBang
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 20, 2004, 01:51:54 PM
It's actually quite sad that most people try to fight for the reset.


Enjoy fighting a challenging fight.  When one side is down, attack the other!
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: 11dano11 on January 20, 2004, 06:27:41 PM
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T-Bolt --"sounds like a whine to me."--
Nah, Maxie's just making clear there was nothing involving skill by the Rooks on Sunday, lest y'all start thinking you actually accomplished something.  He's not whining at you, he's laughing at you. :lol
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B17Skull12 --"we had no RJO today."--
There wasn't?  Well, dang, Skull, then I guess there weren't 275 Rooks up. Or the Sunday before that.  Or the Sunday before that.  Or the Sunday before that.  Or the Sunday... well, you get the picture.  
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Kbman --"The yowls and caterwalling of the nits was truly exquisite tonight...classic."--
As was the gloating and hi-fiving of the Rooks... at least those who could actually find something to shoot at for all the conga lines. ;)  Glad you enjoyed it, kbman.

But there's certainly some truth that such adversity has made the Knights stronger.  I enjoyed the heck out of pushing the Rooks back every night last week, despite their having numbers every night last week.  Last night too :p  +100 gets a bit tougher, tho.  No place to land the kills. :)
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Kweassa --"The only reason we reset Knits before Bish stole it, was there were squads who knew what to do operating in the Knit front, systematically pounding Knit fields to submission."--
Odd that these same squads couldn't do the same when the Rooks only had 10 or 20 plane advantages during the week.  Unless by "squads who knew what to do" you meant squads that knew what to do with an overwhelming horde.:lol  Go gettum, Rooks!
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: 11dano11 on January 20, 2004, 06:40:37 PM
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Punisher --"It's actually quite sad that most people try to fight for the reset."--
Nah, I don't have any problem with that.  Lotta guys really like working to win the big picture, which is fine.  

Some idiot Knight actually went on Ch1 Sunday night, a bit before the reset, to whine that the Rooks were porking our bases, making it tough to come up.  Well Duuuh!!  

It's just that doing it with twice the number of players every Sunday for the past 6 months has gotten a bit tiresome for us, especially when it used to be our Squad Night.  Sunday Squad Night has become pretty pointless.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: TheflyingElk on January 20, 2004, 07:05:27 PM
Cheese****Cheese****Cheese :rofl
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 20, 2004, 07:09:30 PM
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Originally posted by 11dano11
Nah, Maxie's just making clear there was nothing involving skill by the Rooks on Sunday, lest y'all start thinking you actually accomplished something.  He's not whining at you, he's laughing at you. :lol  


O, that's cool.   I was laughing my arse off on Sunday night; so, we're even.  :D  It's great to see the whining go from the M.A. directly to the boards afterwards.  Some folks just can't whine enough, I guess.  

TBolt
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: DEMAN on January 20, 2004, 07:18:43 PM
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Hey Deman! You were right! :D


ROFL
When will the whining end...???
BTW..the most Rooks I saw online was 240 or so and we were fighting all 180 bish in the west while trying to reset 150 nits so....we were actually outnumbered!! :)
(think i may start a whiney thread about this!) :p
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: 11dano11 on January 20, 2004, 07:21:57 PM
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Tbolt --"O, that's cool. I was laughing my arse off on Sunday night; so, we're even."--
Yes, I'm sure you were.  Winning must be a pleasant change. :aok
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Max on January 20, 2004, 08:25:51 PM
Hey folks...I meant what I said: it was not meant to be a whine.
While I concur with some of the frustration articulated by my esteemed squaddie, DmdDano, I also remember when Rooks and Knights were overrun with the Bishop hordes. Kudos to the Rooks for organizing "RJO" and turning their' fate around.

Is it fun to be outnumbered 3:1? Of course not. Does it suck to be pushed into a corner and vulched to smithereens? You bet! The country #'s advantage seems to gravitate around about once a year. Hell, even the Nits had high Sunday nights #'s for awhile.

The Damned, after a brief stay in Bish-land decided to help the then underdogs...Knights...and have stayed ever since. To those squads and players who strive to maintain parity in numbers, SALUTE. To the folks who organized the Rook squads, SALUTE.

As I said in the beginning, enjoy the ride. What goes around, comes around.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: RvrndMax on January 20, 2004, 09:24:52 PM
"It takes hard resistance to hone a fine edge "

Keep the Sundays coming , Rooks .. im getting better because of it . I'm gonna learn how to fly home victorious from a 1 v 9 fight ... or get another beer and try again . Either way , i m happy .

Reverend Max
Chaplain - 13th SAS
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 20, 2004, 11:15:30 PM
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Originally posted by RvrndMax
"It takes hard resistance to hone a fine edge "

Keep the Sundays coming , Rooks .. im getting better because of it . I'm gonna learn how to fly home victorious from a 1 v 9 fight ... or get another beer and try again . Either way , i m happy .

Reverend Max
Chaplain - 13th SAS


Honestly, I look forward to the day when the Rooks' #'s are consistently equal to, if not lower than, the Bish and Knits.  Being the underdog means you'll always be able to find a fight, and you have to fly a helluva lot smarter when a horde isn't backing ya up.

TBolt
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: WldThing on January 20, 2004, 11:51:14 PM
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Originally posted by TBolt A-10
Honestly, I look forward to the day when the Rooks' #'s are consistently equal to, if not lower than, the Bish and Knits.  Being the underdog means you'll always be able to find a fight, and you have to fly a helluva lot smarter when a horde isn't backing ya up.

TBolt


Well Sir,  Rooks used to be outnumbered back in the day... 2 years ago,  numbers were awfull,  alot worse than these days.  Was alot of fun :)
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Urchin on January 21, 2004, 12:56:53 AM
I dunno, I've been really impressed with the Rooks lately.  Usually I only see people flying that high and that timidly in the CT.  Good to see that "style" of "fighting" is crossing over.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: JustJim on January 21, 2004, 05:32:52 AM
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Originally posted by Urchin
I dunno, I've been really impressed with the Rooks lately.  Usually I only see people flying that high and that timidly in the CT.  Good to see that "style" of "fighting" is crossing over.


Funny I'm a rook and I rarely fly past 10k over the field elevation i'm headed to and I constantly get pounced by enemy from 10k above me.

ALT Monkeys are everywhere, somedays you just run into more than others.

JustJim1
III/Jabostaffel
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: gofaster on January 21, 2004, 08:54:55 AM
Last night we had one of the small maps.  Today we're back on the AKDessert map.  The same map we were on a few days ago.  What happened to the map rotation?
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 21, 2004, 11:46:37 AM
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Originally posted by gofaster
Last night we had one of the small maps.  Today we're back on the AKDessert map.  The same map we were on a few days ago.  What happened to the map rotation?


I dunno, but I WAS HAPPY when I returned after the reset to find that the Pizza map was gone.  :eek: :)    

TBolt (prefers smaller maps)
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Masherbrum on January 22, 2004, 06:17:21 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Hey, at least the Knights don't have to have 2x more then the other sides to win a map.


Yeah, when you have the Bish to do the dirty work you don't, moron

Karaya
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Shane on January 22, 2004, 06:56:33 AM
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Originally posted by gofaster
Last night we had one of the small maps.  Today we're back on the AKDessert map.  The same map we were on a few days ago.  What happened to the map rotation?


pizzugh shares its reset rotation with ball-tic (or with the small map set - only saw ball-tic so far) as a compromise to the all pizzugh all the week whineage. so i think it's pizzugh/small/pizzugh/small/etc for the week.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: 11dano11 on January 22, 2004, 09:57:05 AM
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Yeah, when you have the Bish to do the dirty work you don't, moron
??????????????
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 22, 2004, 11:41:18 AM
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Originally posted by 11dano11
??????????????


I think that Karaya was referring to the hand-holding between the Knits and Bish.

Personally, if we Rooks have far more pilots than the other countries, I don't care if the Knits and Bish partner up.  :rolleyes:

TBolt
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: 11dano11 on January 22, 2004, 11:57:33 AM
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I think that Karaya was referring to the hand-holding between the Knits and Bish.
Understood, TBolt, but I tend to believe that such "hand holding" is more urban myth than reality... sorta like intentional ramming, 'pulling the plug', hacks and other nonsense.  

I hear the same whine from the Knits... "Oh, those damn Rooks and Bish are teaming up against us!", but I never believe it and I have never been aware of any collusion between us and another country.

We will, on occasion, when faced with both enme in the same area, try to kill one instead of the other in hopes of affecting the reset race to our favor, but that's always been for our own self interest, never to gang up on a country.  And on most nights me and my squad will fight whoever has the most up... which these days is usually the Rooks... or whoever is threatening our HQ.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 22, 2004, 12:30:12 PM
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Originally posted by 11dano11

We will, on occasion, when faced with both enme in the same area, try to kill one instead of the other in hopes of affecting the reset race to our favor, but that's always been for our own self interest, never to gang up on a country.  



I haven't seen the team-flying between the Bish and Knits for my own eyes, either.  But, I'm sure that some, who see the kind of scenario that you've described above, would interpret the situation as being cooperative Rook bashing.  :o   Maybe now the haters will stfu and fly.  lol.

TBolt
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: MotorOil on January 22, 2004, 04:41:04 PM
I would love to go up against a BishJO or a KnitJO.  Just takes a long time to organise it.  How long has the RJO been going.....  And all that time it's been building larger #s.

A cheap 262 has sharp teeth.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: NoBaddy on January 22, 2004, 04:41:17 PM
Bout the only country cooperation I've ever seen has been country #2 or #3 jumping on the same country that #1 is hitting to pad scores with easy fights. Of course every once in a blue moon...#2 and #3 will gang #1. Since the Rooks have had odds as often as not lately, I can see why Karaya would whine about Knits and Bish holding hands. Oh well, some folks can never see the silver lining for all those clouds :D.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Masherbrum on January 22, 2004, 04:56:22 PM
Sweet, just keep mentioning me, Dano's ego is getting bigger.

NoBaddy, I expecting another clueless response from you, thanks.

Karaya

BTW, keep whining guys this is great.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: 11dano11 on January 22, 2004, 06:16:07 PM
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Karaya --"BTW, keep whining guys this is great."--

Karaya --"Yeah, when you have the Bish to do the dirty work you don't, moron"--

[[sniff]]Hmmm, that smells like a whine.  [[sluuuurp]]It certainly tastes like a whine.  Hmmmm.

Y'know, the more posts I read here, the more impressions I get that EVERYBODY has a whine.  Surprisingly, the biggest whines come from all these 'Purists' whining about 'Alt Monkeys' and fast, late war planes and runstangs and fields too far apart and gawd knows what.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Grimm on January 22, 2004, 07:20:26 PM
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Originally posted by MotorOil
How long has the RJO been going.....  


Well Rook Joint Ops have been going for a while now.   In AH,  Gunner, Ghostdancer, Dawg and myself started working toward this from early 2001.

Before that the Nightmares would link up with Sunday squads and the CAF would link up with Thursday Squads in AW.  This sort of ballooned and we did large Joint Ops in AW.   That was back in late 1999 if I remember correctly.

So depending on how you look at it,  3 or 4 years of work have gone into the RJO.
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: NoBaddy on January 22, 2004, 10:52:36 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Sweet, just keep mentioning me, Dano's ego is getting bigger.

NoBaddy, I expecting another clueless response from you, thanks.

Karaya

BTW, keep whining guys this is great.



I expected as much from you. Don't speak to the issue...merely toss around more childish insults. Whatever :aok .
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: NoBaddy on January 22, 2004, 10:58:49 PM
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Originally posted by Grimm
Well Rook Joint Ops have been going for a while now.   In AH,  Gunner, Ghostdancer, Dawg and myself started working toward this from early 2001.

Before that the Nightmares would link up with Sunday squads and the CAF would link up with Thursday Squads in AW.  This sort of ballooned and we did large Joint Ops in AW.   That was back in late 1999 if I remember correctly.

So depending on how you look at it,  3 or 4 years of work have gone into the RJO.


Grimm...

Cudos for your effort. JD, and later Snowman, did the same for Cland starting back in the mid 90's. Was never my cup of hemlock...but I always appreciated the effort when folks can put something like this together. Unfortunately, the respect I have had for your squad up to this point has been seriously erroded by the childishly insulting posts I have seen from some of your squadmates in the last week or so. Too bad, always thought you guys had more class than this. My bad :( .
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Grimm on January 22, 2004, 11:32:14 PM
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
always thought you guys had more class than this. .


NB,

Sorry to Hear that.

I wouldnt read too much in to the Daggers tossed back and forth. We are pretty much the same squad as we always have been.    Actually their is a certain amount of respect between both our squads,  Otherwise it wouldnt be worth the rivalry.    

Recent events have just renewed that Rivalry.  I would be surprized if your squadmates havent had a bit of extra satisfaction from every CAF they down.   I know our Pilots have been inspired to play a little harder of late.  

Air Combat has gotten so very politicaly correct of late that any amount of smack is shocking.   Its a far cry from the days of Gods and Heros when it was common place.   I hope you can take some of it in the spirt of compition and not so much as personal insults.  

Besides,  All the Barbs traded entertain the hungry mob that reads,  they like blood   ;)

Peace
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Masherbrum on January 23, 2004, 05:56:58 AM
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
I expected as much from you. Don't speak to the issue...merely toss around more childish insults. Whatever :aok .


"Whatever" = the new ignorant response from people who talk more than they should.  

Karaya
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: NoBaddy on January 23, 2004, 08:09:02 AM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
ignorant response from people who talk more than they should.  

Karaya



Kinda says it all about you, Karaya :).
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Masherbrum on January 23, 2004, 09:23:04 AM
The use of smilies is a funny one as well.

Karaya
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: 11dano11 on January 23, 2004, 10:42:57 AM
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Grimm --"Recent events have just renewed that Rivalry. I would be surprized if your squadmates havent had a bit of extra satisfaction from every CAF they down. I know our Pilots have been inspired to play a little harder of late."--
You have no idea, CO :lol  Sorry I didn't get back to you last night, but we had our hands really full trying to beat back you Rooks.  A belated :)

And sorry about the RJO whine, but it's pretty much like I said.  The Sunday night Rook horde has been snowballing for many months now (last Sunday had about 280 Rooks up and supposedly there was no RJO) and it's literally wiped out our Squad Night.  Our less experienced squadies are getting rolled over and logging in frustration, while the more experienced can only fly solo, kill what they can and save themselves.  Squad operations are simply impossible, and for many of our guys, Sunday Squad Ops was something they looked forward to.

We'll work around it somehow, but it's a whole lot of frustration for the team.  And if the RJO truly was every 5 or 6 weeks, that might be palatable, but the Mighty Horde shows up every Sunday night.

So in the meantime :) during the rest of the week, we be lookin' for you guys. :aok
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: ~Pyroman~ on January 24, 2004, 11:03:58 AM
Actually Grimm it was Ghost and I that came up with it then approached you guys.  ;)  Dawg wasn't even here yet.  

Just wanted to clear that up.  :D

Rooks rule and when I finally get back home I can't wait to get into the unfriendly skies with you guys!!!
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Flossy on January 24, 2004, 02:21:55 PM
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Originally posted by Grimm
Before that the Nightmares would link up with Sunday squads and the CAF would link up with Thursday Squads in AW.  This sort of ballooned and we did large Joint Ops in AW.   That was back in late 1999 if I remember correctly.
Yeah, then it was the Cz Defence Force which, although was always a bit late for me to take full part in, was always a lot of fun helping with preparations earlier in the evening.  I've missed the CDF since coming here - which is one reason my second account is now a Rook.....  looking forward to my first RJO.  :D
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Flossy on January 24, 2004, 02:27:07 PM
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Originally posted by 11dano11
And if the RJO truly was every 5 or 6 weeks, that might be palatable, but the Mighty Horde shows up every Sunday night
A lot of Rooks may show up on a Sunday night..... but in my short time in Rookland, I know it's not RJO every Sunday - have you considered that it could just be that a lot of Rook Squads have the Squad Nights on Sunday nights?  I know mine does.  :)
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Flossy on January 24, 2004, 02:28:35 PM
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Originally posted by ~Pyroman~
Rooks rule and when I finally get back home I can't wait to get into the unfriendly skies with you guys!!!
Come home soon, Pyroman - looking forward to flying with you for a change!  :)
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: guttboy on January 24, 2004, 04:00:39 PM
Our squad nights are on Sundays........I think Flossy hit the nail on the head.  Nothing like a good night before going to the long work week!
Title: WTG Rooks
Post by: Meatwad on February 12, 2004, 09:31:41 PM
Unless your week of work starts on RJO night (UGH!)