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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MetaTron on January 20, 2004, 11:25:07 AM
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When GVs attack your field and you come up in a panzer or Tiger to fight them off, you fight all the way back to the SP (and of course you are using the techniques of Sun Tzu by using the terrain against your opponent), then of course you have the perfect Right to camp out. After all, you're defending your field from the enemy!
So, the next time someone curses your spawn camping, or tries to get even by lawn-darting next to your Tiger, then just smile and kill a few more! :D
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It seems that some people confuse defending a base with gvs and actual spawn camping. If you're defending your base and end up with 20+ kills, I respect that. If you drive halfway across the map just to pick people off as the taxi down the runway, I don't respect that. It seems to me that spawn camping is a bit point whorish.
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Another scorpion bite?
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Spawn camping is a privilege that can be revoked by air assault.
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"I fly smart, to bad I can't get dogfighting figured out!"
lmfao
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spawn campers are usually short people.
lazs
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Translation: I suck in planes and only attack ground targets in a tank, that I know have absolutely zero chance of fighting back.
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Originally posted by Citabria
"I fly smart, to bad I can't get dogfighting figured out!"
lmfao
"If you're perfect you must cheat."
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What about the spawn camping that goes on in tank town? I don't necessarily disagree w/ you Metatron, but I think TT spawn camping is among the ultimate in dweebery.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
"If you're perfect you must cheat."
yes the mentality of a skill less noob is quite amusing
to bad some dont pass out of noob mentality even after playing sfor years
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Originally posted by Citabria
"I fly smart, to bad I can't get dogfighting figured out!"
lmfao
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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"I'm so great, look at how well i'm stalling."
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Originally posted by MetaTron
"If you're perfect you must cheat."
Flyin with externals and their cockpit off ? :aok
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Spawn camping Tigers respond favorably to Stuka's with The MOTHER of all Bombs!!!!!!!!!!!problem solved;)
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AND I love that song!
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I like spawn campers.. They announce how well my 1000lb bomb tasted on ch1 when they had 20+ kills. :D
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Ok
We're not talking about planes fighting each other here.
Wrong thread..
Wrong click, sorry for the intrusion.
Continue.
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BTW Meta...was that you that landed 76 kills in a Tiger on Monday night?
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Originally posted by JustJim
Flyin with externals and their cockpit off ? :aok
"I fly smooth, except when I'm turning."
"I'm so lost, too bad I cant get all these bandits off me"
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Originally posted by crowMAW
BTW Meta...was that you that landed 76 kills in a Tiger on Monday night?
It might have been.
A GOD works in mysterious ways..
Damn.
Wrong thread again.
Sorry..
Continue. That spawn camping tank stuff is really neat :aok
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Originally posted by nopoop
It might have been.
A GOD works in mysterious ways..
Damn.
Wrong thread again.
Sorry..
Continue. That spawn camping tank stuff is really neat :aok
Man you kill me nopoop :lol
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Originally posted by crowMAW
BTW Meta...was that you that landed 76 kills in a Tiger on Monday night?
yes he did.....then I went and landed 53......went back got 35 more but then the LTAR's came in a jabo mission JUST for my Tiger......went back again and landed 50
now NITS where uppin like mad in GV's.....so I was just as mad in my Tiger and decided to kill em all:aok
do not confuse getting lots of kills in GV's with NO skill in planes....might come back and bite ya in the prettythang:D
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Their inability to understand is also a result of their different belief system, and the influence of Satan's subtle powers on them.
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Originally posted by Citabria
yes the mentality of a skill less noob is quite amusing
to bad some dont pass out of noob mentality even after playing sfor years
Yes, I have noticed a distinct dweebiness about certain 'veterans,' especially those that choose to use PT boats around enemy ports, or panzers near an enemy factory. Isn't that right, Cit? :aok
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Tank dweebs in a combat flight sim....and campers ta boot.
This is not your fathers AH.
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Originally posted by gofaster
Their inability to understand is also a result of their different belief system, and the influence of Satan's subtle powers on them.
No, it's just choice in action. Rather than accept that living might be preferred by some, they choose to point out how 'boring' flying smart is. Boring to these dolts translates as the ability to maintain the patience requisite to a 'long term kill streak' (exceeding 2 kills must require an auger) Anything beyond 2 kills requires more attention and patience than they can manage.
Restock the ritaline, fellas! :D
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MetaTron, you are a spawn camper, just face it. Sure sometimes you are doing your country a duty and defending a base, but 80-90% of the time you are camped there for hours on end just getting kill after kill. And when Trinity is on, I would bet any amount of money that you are in Tiger Town with your tent all set up, the fire pits a blazing, and you and your spawn camping buddies are singing 99 bottles of beer, and telling obscene stories.........AND THIS ONE TIME, AT SPAWN CAMP........
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Originally posted by N8DOG
AND THIS ONE TIME, AT SPAWN CAMP........
....I flew a F-16....
ack-ack
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Originally posted by N8DOG
MetaTron, you are a spawn camper, just face it. Sure sometimes you are doing your country a duty and defending a base, but 80-90% of the time you are camped there for hours on end just getting kill after kill. And when Trinity is on, I would bet any amount of money that you are in Tiger Town with your tent all set up, the fire pits a blazing, and you and your spawn camping buddies are singing 99 bottles of beer, and telling obscene stories.........AND THIS ONE TIME, AT SPAWN CAMP........
hours on end you say......oh how so wrong you are my fine
patiwan learner....
The days of glory in the skies have passed us by my young
Jedi....never will you find a good adversary that will NOT have 3
friends with him....and all 3 go for HO pass on the 1st merge.....so
instead of wasting time flyin 15 minutes and gettin ho'd.....grab a
Tiger and make em pay for there stupidity(reuppin 30 times and
get killed 30 times....in 15 minutes)
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Boring to these dolts translates as the ability to maintain the patience requisite to a 'long term kill streak'
I'll bet you're the type of investor who puts all your money into bonds. Safe, long-term, guaranteed return. Low risk.
Tigers are for wimps. Real men fight in panzers. And Yaks.
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slo is the major investor in metavoss's new combo tank and flight sim that will blow all the others out away.
lazs
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Originally posted by gofaster
I'll bet you're the type of investor who puts all your money into bonds.
No, no, no...He's the type that TAKES your money...
ack-ack
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As a GV "newbie" my big problem with spawn camping is with the spawn process itself...not the spawn camper. Some type of randomization needs to be added. Lets say anywhere in a 3000yd zone or something. Fix the spawn process and you fix the camper...he'll still have the advantage as defender to pick his terrain but he wont have a bore sighted target.
azhacker
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I'd love to spawn camp one day. I tried it yesterday, but a Hurri I strafed me and took out the turret on my Tiger. I got another Tiger but an M8 killed me at 2000yds while I was moving to the ideal terrain as per Sun Tzu.
So then I saw an enemy Tiger pop up, so I got a Stuka with an 1800kg bomb. I spent half an hour getting to 10k and then lined the sucker up for a perfect drop. Except one of my team mates flew under me as the bomb went off and kill shot me. So then I got a P47-D30 with the full load out. All 10 rkts bounced off. I am NOT sh__tting you. So I got some more alt and set the 1000lbers to both drop at the same time. End result was a Tiger sitting in the middle of a double crater. So I came back and rode the 500lber in like Slim Pickens. Dropped too low and the bomb didn't go off.
Strafed him for 20 minutes or so until my ammo was gone.
Landed.
Got another Tiger.
Panzer IV sitting right next to the VH lets off a round and ***** slaps me so hard my ears are still ringing the next day. 3rd Tiger dead.
Spawn camping really isn't my cup of tea.
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Originally posted by lazs2
slo is the major investor in metavoss's new combo tank and flight sim that will blow all the others out away.
lazs
whatever he did is in the past....which I was not part of....even If I was....unlike you....I don't live in the past.
up until now....the 418 Hornets.....and myself have nothing but respect for what he did in training and giving helpful tips to squadmates.
and your deliberate slandering of MT is getting long winded and very boring....I see creativity doesn't run rampate in your family...keep living in the past:aok
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so you are a major investor eh?
what people have done in the past is the past but... if they are unrepentant and continue to be..... "evasive" then they probly haven't changed much. We are not talking about something minor or a one time deal here tho.
laazs
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Originally posted by SLO
and your deliberate slandering of MT is getting long winded and very boring....
You do realize that it's not slander if it's true... right? You might find it tiresome to hear about it so frequently, but slander it most definitely is not.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
You do realize that it's not slander if it's true... right? You might find it tiresome to hear about it so frequently, but slander it most definitely is not.
-- Todd/Leviathn
I didn't ask your opinion Levi.....when I do...you'll know....like I said....to me it is slander.....repetitive....bor ing...and shows lack of imagination.....REPETITIVE... .do do do do do do do you get it.
Truth as YOU see it....not mine....perception counts to the one posting.
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Originally posted by SLO
I didn't ask your opinion Levi.....when I do...you'll know....like I said....to me it is slander.....repetitive....bor ing...and shows lack of imagination.....REPETITIVE... .do do do do do do do you get it.
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Spare me the righteous indignation. Repetition is not slander, though obviously you fail to understand this.
In the future, you might also want to consider taking discussions to private e-mail if you don't want others to interject opinion on an open forum. In the meantime, you're just going to have to deal with it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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If there is any doubt in anyones mind that he is a spawn camping, cherry picking, strat milking dweeb, just go look at his stats. Look here (http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/105score/105score.pl) He has never been killed in 14 fighter runs, his buff hit % is up where only a stuka run milkrunning dweeb could have it. His 66:1 K/D gv score is a reflection of his camping. He is either the best pilot/GVer/bomber Ive ever seen or he is just what everyone says he is. A SPAWNCAMPIN CHERRYPICKER. In fact, look at ROD367th's post about being a score potato and you will find that MetaTron actually follows ROD's instructions fairly good.
-Nuff Said
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LOL palef :rofl , sounds like one of my AAR's
shamus
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slo... actually... you SAYING that it is slander is in fact..... slander.
you have slandered me.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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haha, a thread about spawn camping turns into a debate about slander...
btw, Spawn Camping is kinda lame... but I also think vulchin is too. Although vulchin to a lesser extent because you can llok outta the tower and see enemy planes orbiting the field, you can't do that with vehicle spawns.
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isnt it same thing as vulching? no. if you chose to keep spawning into a supressed zone or up a set of lancasters and drop 29,000lbs of bombs to kill 1 or 2 GVs( which you dont get any points for because when scored as a bomber your bombs must destroy objects not GVs) just who exactly is the bigger idiot?
hhmmm....... think about it. ive been alone in a tiger against 1-5 odds and whipped butt. ive also used an m8 in tanktown as a perkcombine too. GVs move you know, learn how to do it. and n8dog get a clue.
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The entire point of the thread is this: Suppression is a requisite of war, even virtual war. Spawn camping is suppression of the attacking ground vehicles. Since it can be done, and in fact was designed into the game intentionally, then it is the right of a player to do so.
Anyone that thinks to the contrary is not being realistic. In a game where you can see one guy fly formations of B26s at fifty feet to a nearby field, for consecutive sorties over and over until the field has been completely degraded, you should expect this. If, you don't expect it, you need to take up knitting or some other low brain activity.
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Spawn camping is gay. Not because of the camping aspect, but because it involves the use of GVs. GVs are gay.
Vulching is cool. Vulching requires the use of fighter planes.
I like vulching.
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Yeah, Curval, you should know!
Nice pink skirt, btw.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
The entire point of the thread is this: Suppression is a requisite of war, even virtual war. Spawn camping is suppression of the attacking ground vehicles. Since it can be done, and in fact was designed into the game intentionally, then it is the right of a player to do so.
Lottsa things are designed into this game that keep it fun for different folks.
That being said--doesn't mean some of em are a little less than realistic--spawn camping being one--vultching another.
Doubt anyone ever landed 60 kills in a Tiger or 20 kills in any fighter.
If I Spawn Camped I'd deffinateley take up knitting--couple of double stiches while waiting for the next GV to pop up in my sights would help pass time.
HTC does a good job of keeping the intensity level up--hard to do that and not compromise realism.
Thats why it's a game and I like playing it.
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Who's the bigger dweeb, the spawn campers or the idiots who keep spawning knowing they are there? Why are spawn campers different from vulchers? It always cracks me up to be at a capped field and have 25 guys floating around for half an hour all waiting to dive on the one guy who keeps trying to beat the cap. What's the diff? The only thing I have against the gv's is they have no chute to kill. I think the guy should hop out of the gv and run away so that you can hunt him down and strafe him.
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OK so what is the difference between a spawn camper and defender? That still isn't clear.
If I up an Osti to defend a base, and the same two morons keep coming back to get shot down by yours truly, in this case 5 times a piece have I crossed a magical barrier from defending to spawn camping?
To give you an idea how bad these guys were, they finally took out the turret but i still hosed them with the coaxial twice more.
not 50-70 kills but i'm sure they was miffed
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Nice pink skirt, btw.
Thanks Big Boy.;)
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tigers are fubar some pop instantly some are basicly unkillable people find that out and use it.
let them think they are "good" griefers always move on.
its cirtainly not a cheat ohh no.
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Originally posted by Adogg
OK so what is the difference between a spawn camper and defender? That still isn't clear.
If I up an Osti to defend a base, and the same two morons keep coming back to get shot down by yours truly, in this case 5 times a piece have I crossed a magical barrier from defending to spawn camping?
To give you an idea how bad these guys were, they finally took out the turret but i still hosed them with the coaxial twice more.
not 50-70 kills but i'm sure they was miffed
I am assuming you are refering to planes, being that you are in an Osti.
if that is the case, you are not a spawn camper... the planes take off from another field and have time to transit to your position. They can vary their approach and altitude. Parking a Tiger or Panzer and killin GVs as they spawn is lame. They have no alternatives as to how they can approach.
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Originally posted by Citabria
"I fly smart, to bad I can't get dogfighting figured out!"
lmfao
ROFLMFAO!!!
:rofl Great Film! Need to go watch it now
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YAWN!
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just get rid of the arrows, as seen by nmy--at least THEN it will be a bit of a challenge
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Originally posted by bj229r
just get rid of the arrows, as seen by nmy--at least THEN it will be a bit of a challenge
Anyone who's boring and anal retentive enuff to sit around for hours waiting for people to pop up so they can press their little "feel good" button ......will be well capable of drawing themselves a little map of where all the spawn points are.
better they're left in so the rest of us know what's going on if we ever need them.
Redd
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Originally posted by Curval
Spawn camping is gay. Not because of the camping aspect, but because it involves the use of GVs. GVs are gay.
Vulching is cool. Vulching requires the use of fighter planes.
I like vulching.
HELL yeah :)
culero
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Originally posted by bj229r
just get rid of the arrows, as seen by nmy--at least THEN it will be a bit of a challenge
Ignorant statement. Almost every camp I've been involved with required fighting to get there first. Almost. There's nothing like landing 70 or more, though.
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landing 9 non vulch kills is better.
somthing you will never do.