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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: acepilot2 on January 20, 2004, 06:27:19 PM
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about which game will be better
Half Life 2 or:
Halo 2.
I say half life 2. the game looks simply amazing. There is lots of new technology involved and it will have great action and a deep plot. I thought the original halo was overrated. What has seriously halo done that has not been done before? I am pretty young, so most of my friends said halo2. When i asked them if they knew what half life even was, they said they don't know:lol
most of the younger crowd hasn't played half life...so even if you are not young, don't say anything if you have not seen halo2 or half life 2 or have played the original games.
What do you think? you can just give a simple answer-halo2 or half life 2?
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Half Life 2, just because of the new technology it introduces. I betcha it'll be a matter of months before other games start showing up built on the Half Life 2 engine, and THAT is why it will rock me like a hurricane.
I'm sure Halo 2 is going to be cool too, I just think that HL2 is going to have the most influence.
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here are some pics of HL2:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074645095.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074645131.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074645204.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074645260.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074645286.jpg)
this pic shows a character from the original half life and his new look in half life 2:(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074645314.jpg)
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Halo and HL were both outstanding games in their own right, but unless Halo is going to be developed with the PC in mind, as oppsed to an X-Box port, HL2 is winner by default.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Halo and HL were both outstanding games in their own right, but unless Halo is going to be developed with the PC in mind, as oppsed to an X-Box port, HL2 is winner by default.
No doubt that they will both rock. I just think half life will be better:D
The argument we were having eventually led to an argument about pcs and consoles. I took pcs side and he took console.
I said with the right hardware pcs have better graphics and are by default waaaaaaaayyyy more powerful than consoles.
He doesn't know alot about pcs-didn't know what I mean by "consoles have around 500 megahertz or so a pc has 2400."
I do love consoles...I just love pcs more cause I know what they are capable of..if all these console-defenders would just do research on why a pc is more powerful and more capable than a console they would change their mind :D
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In todays age, consoles offer one thing: Consistency. You don't need to see if you have enough RAM or HD space, or if your video card is up to date, you just look and see 'Ah, this is an X-Box' and know that the game should play exactly as well on your machine as it does on any other.
When consoles come out, there's a brief window where they might have better graphics then a PC game, but that quickly expires. The X-Box comparison, for example, is easy to see. It's a 700mhz Celeron processor with a video card that might run Aces High II, or might not. It's borderline.
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The thing Halo does that I don't think any other game has done to date (I think! I haven't played many FPS games) is that you can play the campaign with a friend in the same room on the same system.
Halo-2 will no doubt offer the same thing, but may otherwise be essentially the same thing as Halo.
Then again, the only thing Half-Life really had going for it was its well-developed story line. Can't say graphics, because at the time - UnReal had far better graphics than Half-Life, but Half-Life could be modded while UnReal couldn't.
Half-Life 2 will have to bring something more than just graphics to the table if its going to beat out its predecessor... like a longer and more involved story line with a plot thats atleast as good as the original. Yes, I know - it can be modded. But I don't buy games to wait a year or two until it finally has a worthwhile single player storyline... which will mean atleast a 150MB download (judging by Poke646, a mod for Half-Life).
Consoles I like for playing with friends in the same room (don't do LAN stuff).
PCs are good for games that don't allow that.
-SW
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I could never quite understand what the whole Helo deal was about. Played it a little, by the time it came out, graphics were no better then those of origian Unreal from 2-3 years earlier, game play nothing more then "you're in weird place with aliens shooting everything that moves" theme...
Mods is what made Half Life what it was and very original story line. HL2 looks quite fascinating, I hope they can reach same level of immersion.
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geez, just look at the water! I cant get over that quicktime movie of the different aspects of HL2... the stained glass, the water, the physics, ugh...
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
The thing Halo does that I don't think any other game has done to date (I think! I haven't played many FPS games) is that you can play the campaign with a friend in the same room on the same system.
That has been done before, many, many times...
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I won't play either of them as I now get seriously sick playing any FPS type games. Don't know what the deal is but this happened one other time when the very first Castle Wolfenstein game came out. Kind of relegates me to being a flight/driving/strategy type guy no matter what I want to do. Well other than playing Sports games on the Xbox.
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Halflife 2, hands down.
Cant wait for Day of Defeat for HL2...
And the original story will be fun to play too... Gonna buy it as soon as it hits the stores.
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Originally posted by Reschke
I won't play either of them as I now get seriously sick playing any FPS type games. Don't know what the deal is but this happened one other time when the very first Castle Wolfenstein game came out.
Since the first 3D Castle Wolfenstein (Wolfenstein 3D) game is considered the first real FPS, that means you haven't seen any FPSs since. Perhaps you might wish to investigate the current crop, you might be amazed. If you really haven't tried and FPS since 1991 or so, try the first Half Life. It's an older game, but the immersiveness in the single player game is amazing.
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That looks amazing Gscholz.
Bougth the ATI 9600 Pro 256 MB a month ago, will i have to upgrade again? :)
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Loved this one LoL! Hes getting OWNED :D
(http://www.stalker-game.com/download/gallery/screenshots/middle/sb_xray_41.jpg)
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doom3's graphics look like that of movie special effects animation...but the gameplay probably won't be as good as neither half life 2 or halo2.
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There's a 500+meb demo file out there for HL2.
If you haven't seen it, get it. The mod possibilities make me drool.
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The thing Halo does that I don't think any other game has done to date (I think! I haven't played many FPS games) is that you can play the campaign with a friend in the same room on the same system.
ahem...the double dragon series to name one...twisted metal series (probably one of the best ps1 games EVER...with the exception of metal gear:solid)
ive played wolfenstein 3d blake stone doom quake 3 unreal dues ex and americas army...all except americas army play pretty much the same...the only difference is how fast i got sick...2-3 minutes for the early games, half hour for quake 3, 2 hours for dues ex...
then again the real time strategy games are all pretty much the same...i still cant tell the difference play in any of the age series and the other games i tried arnt any different...the only really new thing to the series is the one where you customize creatures...
overall i have to say the entire game industry is lacking substance nowadays...to much emphasis on graphics...
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Double Dragon, Twisted Metal, and Metal Gear:Solid are not FPS games.
First Person Shooters are games like Doom, RTCW, UnReal, HL, etc.
Metal Gear:Solid is a third person strategy game. Double Dragon is a third person fighting game, and Twisted Metal is a third person vehicle combat game.
-SW
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i mentioned metal gear on the context of good ps1 games...
misunderstood your co-op statement...
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Double Dragon, Twisted Metal, and Metal Gear:Solid are not FPS games.
First Person Shooters are games like Doom, RTCW, UnReal, HL, etc.
Metal Gear:Solid is a third person strategy game. Double Dragon is a third person fighting game, and Twisted Metal is a third person vehicle combat game.
-SW
and Deus Ex owns them all :)
Twisted Metal was a great game... hehe that clown skeered me
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I never could get into Deus, I never was into FPS either.
But I can't deny, that HL2 looks pretty awesome.
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Well, I really stated it poorly Vorticon. After re-reading it, before replying, I saw how it could be interpreted differently.
To begin with, I should have stated "FPS Coop campaign on the same system". There is no PC game that can do that (by nature, two PCs are required for multiplayer), and I really don't believe there is any console FPS game that allows people to play the campaign coop on the same system.
As far as HL-2 goes, it should be interesting. So long as they have an interesting story line with multiple ways to achieve an objective. I played the first HL several times through, and there was more than one way things could be done... OpFor was a pretty short and very straightforward storyline OTOH.
I don't like to say "this game is going to be better!" before I've tried it because I thought UnReal II would be great (after playing UnReal several times through, and, IMO, that was an excellent game) - but aside from eye candy it really blew.
I'll buy and play HL-2, and my friends will get Halo 2, so I'll play both in any event. Halo is really a straightforward game, but it is extremely fun when playing with a friend while drinking and kicking the AIs ass. Thats why, IMO, Halo was a great game. I played it all the way through on my own, but it just wasn't as fun as doing it coop.
-SW
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There's a 500+meb demo file out there for HL2.
If you haven't seen it, get it. The mod possibilities make me drool.
a playable demo or just another movie?
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Movie file.
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games arent even out. why rate screenshots.
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Originally posted by stiehl
There's a 500+meb demo file out there for HL2.
If you haven't seen it, get it. The mod possibilities make me drool.
whew, that had me worried.
You know, If you haven't heard...someone stole the source engine and scraps of HL2..you can actually download what they have so far...the thing that is bad is I think its illegal considering its stolen material.
why rate screenies you ask? its just not screenies. go read about 'em.
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(by nature, two PCs are required for multiplayer),
i beg to differ...if you have 2 joysticks you could (theoretically) play a hotseat(2 players 1 computer) flightsim...2 steering wheels (or 1 and a keyboard) you can play a hotseat racing sim (nfs is a prime example) etc. etc....you just need 2 input devices not 2 computers
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I don't know of any computer games that do splitscreen.
-SW
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most racing games do
most fighting games have either split screen versus or 1 screen co-op
last flight sim to have it was ace 2 as i remember
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I played Nascar 1&2 and some other racing games, none of them offered the option to do split screen.
I don't know of any games made specifically for the PC that can do split screen... aren't most fighting games simply arcade machine ports that run on emulators?
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I don't know of any computer games that do splitscreen.
-SW
WACKY WHEELS!!
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need for speed
there are a few fighting games that arnt ports
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All games bore me these days.
Only one game will hold my attention... an online version of Pirates. Now that would be a game - I'm signed to play a version at the moment but can't get it to work.
Roman Total War could potentially be a new game that will hold my attention.
Single player FPS games are so dull after you get over the pretty graphics.
The HL2 engine used in some kind of DoD thing would probably be the best game ever.
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You tried the Far Cry demo yet Dowding? ;)
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lol I was just about to edit my post, mate. :D
I haven't tried it - I saw a non-interactive demo posted on fileplanet some time ago. Is there a playable demo out?
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Yup...we were the reason the internet was slow on Wednesday :D
500mb though! (http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=15622)
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500mb?! I'd download it, but I don't have net access in my flat. My bro's computer is at my parents so I'll have check out your meisterwerk, next time I go over. :D
Do you still play AH?
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Originally posted by Wilfrid
You tried the Far Cry demo yet Dowding? ;)
It is amazing. Smooth too on the ATI 9600 and 9800 cards. Thought the Demo I played was over 700 meg though. Diff versions out?
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When is HL2 supposed to be released again? Its like frikken March, right?
PS: DoD2 will take me away from RO.
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Can I use a character that looks like this?
(http://host.digitalfaucet.com/funky/qq1072809797.jpg)
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You argue over video games? What no mottocross or monster truck rallys to get verbose over?
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This coming from someone quoting Hanoi John in his sig.
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I remember a game that I used to play with about 250 other folks, plotting and strategizing, on enemy movements/plans for attack..... Intercepting and eliminating the evil oposition where they stood... every friday, and weekends..... can't remember the name of it now... it was a combat flight sim, and the gameplay was smooth...
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General assesments...
1) FPS play much better with a mouse and keyboard configuration...
2) Console games are MUCH more stable.
3) PC games provide much more variety.
4) Multiplayer is HUGE advantage for PC games... if you don't play other people you're not playing.
5) Console system aren't as expensive as a PC, and at a fraction of the cost they run just as well.... they're engineered for performance (no fluff programs) ::cough:: Windows OS.
6) There is a STANDARD for a console..... the console it self... PC's are the Frankenstien Projects come to life.... mix and match till it works right
7) Cheating much more detrimental to the gaming enviroment of PC on-line play.
8) Like I said in #4.... nothing beats playing against other people and I thought it was worth a note.
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-BM
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I agree on all points other than if Far Cry is what games are fastly becoming, and a reality amazingly enough ala the Demo, the water graphics are getting so realistic, I could completley enjoy a Sub/Navy Sim in single player. That's worth noting.
Of course MP is always better if it works.
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4) Multiplayer is HUGE advantage for PC games... if you don't play other people you're not playing.
All I have to say is X-Box Live :)
I had far more "fun" playing Halo than the original "Half Life", played coop mod with my friend was a hell of alot of fun.
I use PC game for more strategic and thinking games.
I play console for pure fun.
Though I must say the differences are shrinking fast.
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Dowding, I've played AH probably 3 times in 4 months....we've been in crunch mode since late summer.
You'll notice theres an old Zero on the beach - I thought a N12K reference would be lost on most people ;)
My Dev machine has an ATI 9700pro.
Creamo there are 2 versions - one with DirectX9 and one without. The Larger one is 496mb.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
This coming from someone quoting Hanoi John in his sig.
Well he does have a silver star and 3 purple hearts. So i respect his opinion about vietnam and what happened there then yours.
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I could have the M's wrong indeed, I just played it. So the diff seems not to matter.
Regardless, Silent Hunter 3 on this engine would be nice.
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One note about water though... is now they're just starting to reflect the environment.. something they haven't accomplished well is actually reflecting a Character.... your character to be exact..
you can see it here in this picture... the guy is literally above the water...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/ah_134_1074645204.jpg)
Only enviroment reflection is visible
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I've not scene but pix from HL2 and some movies. It looks great.
(I hate scrolling at my 1280 screen res BTW)
If it's as good as Far Cry, great.
Make a Sub sim. (And stop with the bad scroll screens.)
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Well he does have a silver star and 3 purple hearts. So i respect his opinion about vietnam and what happened there then yours.
Shut up or Ill snipe you.
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You're a genius, Wil. :D You ought to have put a Nik in and made some kind of reference to AH! Do a Superfly/Natedog and get a subtle reference in the cockpit or something.
I'm downloading Far Cry now.
Do any of the old squad still play AH - would really like to catch up with Sno, Dawv, Sailor et al. Kron left AH or so my bro was telling me. Haven't played AH since October.
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Heh :)
Don't know about the squad, few times I was on I didn't see anybody.
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Aaah well. It will be a while before I hook my flat into the net anyways. Kind of been itching for some online combat for a while.
Haven't downloaded Far Cry yet - can only get 10k from that link you gave me. I'm determined to try it though. :)
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Far Cry might just be good.
Got suprised in the jungle and shot up some tapir-looking animal.
Near the rusted plane.