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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tarmac on January 22, 2004, 11:55:37 PM
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I remember a scuba thread a while ago, so I figured I'd ask some questions here.
I was swimming some laps at the pool yesterday, and ran into the MSU Scuba Club giving free introductory lessons. I had a great time swimming around for about an hour.
So now I'm thinking about getting certified. The scuba club offers PADI certification at what I understand to be a great deal. The instructor (an officer in the club) says he does it for fun, and the club doesn't turn a profit on it. There would only be 6 people in the class. Two instructors, as I understand it.
Here's the deal:
$195: instructor fees for class+pool, gear rental for pool, course pack, dive table, log book, pool fees, one year MSU SCUBA club membership. And a club t-shirt. :)
$15: rental mask, fins, snorkel, booties. I could also buy this stuff, although I'd most likely rent for a while.
$ 85: Four open Water Certification dives.
Total: $295
Good deal? Any hints or tips?
Also, I'm thinking about heading to Ginnie Springs, FL for my certification dives, followed by a week of open-water diving in West Palm Beach FL. Any opinions on that?
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I know people that have done scuba classes - but why bother with certifications unless you intend to become a professional diver or an instructor? Afterall, you're in Michigain - the good diving is closer to the equator. Clear(er) water and all.
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great deal.
i went through it in college (EEEEAAASSSSYYY credits lol) for $100 student discount + $50 equipment rental.
unfortunatly it was winter... when summer came around they forgot to call me for the open water dive.
never got the cert.
if you do get certed PADI the way to go. there are other certicicating authorities but PADI the biggest IIRC.
you have to do at least 1-2 dives a year to keep cert active. meaning you need a SCUBA buddy (illegal to dive alone).
if you do let it expire most offer a "refresher" for cheap to get you back. espically in the carribean. go there and SCUBA with a group for all day maybe $75 including equpiment.
IMHO breathing underwater is the most surreal experiance i have ever had. SOOO relaxing and the WOW factor was out of this world. but i am easily entertained.
good luck bud have fun.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I know people that have done scuba classes - but why bother with certifications unless you intend to become a professional diver or an instructor? Afterall, you're in Michigain - the good diving is closer to the equator. Clear(er) water and all.
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Great Lakes = shipwrecks. Only in summer, but still lots of dive shops around here.
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Yeah, hoping to stay somewhat active, or at least current, through the club. Plus, lots of prospective diving buddies already there - including one or two hotties. :)
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If you intend on diving for shipwrecks, then it is a really good deal. The people I know wanted to be able to dive without instruction (a couple $50 cheaper, but not really worth it since they didn't do it more than once every few years).
-SW
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Well I just happend to be a PADI divemaster
Yea thats a ok deal.
But you will want to buy your own mask at least.
Fit Is very important in a mask.
Get one that dont fit and your dive is screwed.
Pay close attention to the instructors.
Scuba can be very safe... but It Is not for those people who like to bend the rules.
Been Diving for 10 years and have about 1.800 dives and Not one accident.
But I have seen a dude die in a advanced class I was assisting in.
He freeked at 100ft spit out his Regulator and bolted for the surface.
I was unable to grab him and slow him down.
He died Of a pulmonary imbolisiom.
And sharks dont worry bout them.
Keep your eye on the dam barracudas and sea urchins.
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BTW i will let you guess wich one I am.
The other fellow is my best friend chuck.
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
If you intend on diving for shipwrecks, then it is a really good deal. The people I know wanted to be able to dive without instruction (a couple $50 cheaper, but not really worth it since they didn't do it more than once every few years).
-SW
LOL you dive on wrecks and caves with out the propper training and you will DIE.
Trust me seen It too many times.
It takes years to get the propper certs to be a wreck diver.
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No, trust me because the only thing I know about diving is that my friends took classes so they would get cheaper costs on diving in the caribbean, which they don't do more than once every few years.
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They more than likely either took a resort course.
Or they did they pool and book work in the states and there open water check oout dives in the carribean.
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Originally posted by mrblack
LOL you dive on wrecks and caves with out the propper training and you will DIE.
Trust me seen It too many times.
It takes years to get the propper certs to be a wreck diver.
Someday. I'm not wreck diving on my certification dives or anything. Not that dumb. :)
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LOL no your instructors will be watching you like a hawk.
Feel safe and comfortable and you will be fine.
If you only remember one thing NEVER HOLD YOUR BREATH;)
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Originally posted by mrblack
LOL no your instructors will be watching you like a hawk.
Feel safe and comfortable and you will be fine.
If you only remember one thing NEVER HOLD YOUR BREATH;)
You think it's a good deal?
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Also, I'm thinking about heading to Ginnie Springs, FL for my certification dives, followed by a week of open-water diving in West Palm Beach FL. Any opinions on that?
At ginnie springs Please stay out of the CAVES.
The entraces have signes with skull and cross bones on them for a reason.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
You think it's a good deal?
Yeah thats about what I paid for mine 10 years ago.
I did my open water In the British Virgin Islands.
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Don't think the instructors would let me go into the caves.
Besides, caves scare the hell out of me. I'm a bit claustrophobic when it comes to limited air supplies and tight spaces.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Also, I'm thinking about heading to Ginnie Springs, FL for my certification dives, followed by a week of open-water diving in West Palm Beach FL. Any opinions on that?
You can certify in Charleston, SC. I happen to live there and will get you so plastered that you just might go out with the tide:D
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Don't think the instructors would let me go into the caves.
Besides, caves scare the hell out of me. I'm a bit claustrophobic when it comes to limited air supplies and tight spaces.
Thats a healthy way to look at it.
Also take It easy on the booze before and after diving.
As It hinders nitrogen absorbsion...
You will learn in class why this Is important(has to do with the bends).
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Originally posted by mrblack
LOL you dive on wrecks and caves with out the propper training and you will DIE.
Trust me seen It too many times.
It takes years to get the propper certs to be a wreck diver.
DIP! Diving on wrecks is NOT dangerous. Wreck penetration is.
On my PADI course we ended it by diving on one near Cardinal.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
I remember a scuba thread a while ago, so I figured I'd ask some questions here.
I was swimming some laps at the pool yesterday, and ran into the MSU Scuba Club giving free introductory lessons. I had a great time swimming around for about an hour.
So now I'm thinking about getting certified. The scuba club offers PADI certification at what I understand to be a great deal. The instructor (an officer in the club) says he does it for fun, and the club doesn't turn a profit on it. There would only be 6 people in the class. Two instructors, as I understand it.
Here's the deal:
$195: instructor fees for class+pool, gear rental for pool, course pack, dive table, log book, pool fees, one year MSU SCUBA club membership. And a club t-shirt. :)
$15: rental mask, fins, snorkel, booties. I could also buy this stuff, although I'd most likely rent for a while.
$ 85: Four open Water Certification dives.
Total: $295
Good deal? Any hints or tips?
Also, I'm thinking about heading to Ginnie Springs, FL for my certification dives, followed by a week of open-water diving in West Palm Beach FL. Any opinions on that?
I'm a qualified Naui and Padi divemaster, done about 600 dives, it's a great hobby especially if you get the chance to travel.
You HAVE to buy the following:
1. Own wetsuit - if you need a dry suit don't get into the water
2. Own mask and snorkel
3. Own fins & booties
4. Own weight belt.
You should buy
5. BCD ( Buoancy Control Device) Sea Quest is best
6. Dive Bag - one with wheels and dry and wet sections
You will end up buying
7. Dive computer
8. Steel 12.2 liter tank
9. Bloody great "I am a DIVER" watch
Also odds and ends like torches, compass, knife, carabinier's, spare O rings.
Don't buy anything with yellow on it ( called yumyum yellow by shark aficinado's) Go for full black or everyone will think you're a newb and laugh.
Don't hold your breath while on scuba, the scary lecture (lecture no.2 or no.3) is serious - pay attention - try not to die.
Prices quoted are pretty good btw...see you in the big blue...am going to Truk to dive the wrecks this year.
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I grew up in pensacola, fl... Got certified for $125 many years ago.. That was a good deal.. Even for the area.. Certification cost is not the worry.. Its only a one time expense.. If you want to be certified (especially where you live) I'd just pay it and get it over with..
a few facts..
Open water certification does not expire.. Even if you dont dive for years at a time.. (i still have my original sea card)
PADI is the best cert. course.. Most recognized....
Wreck diving is not dangerous.. Shooting a spear gun at your friend for 'effect' is dangerous.. 8)
Learn the basics and never panic.. (have backup stuff so you dont have to.. ie. spare air, second regulator.. always dive with a knife and a buddy..)
If you plan to dive a lot... Its always better to buy your own equipment.. Even if its just one piece at a time.. Renting is throwing money away..
Your mask is one of the most important parts of the getup.. If you have an uncomfortable mask or one you are constantly having to 'clear', your dive will be ruined.. Not surprisingly, it doesnt take that much to make you uncomfortable while diving, but like all things, its a state of mind...
Diving outta P-cola in the gulf is practically nothing but wreck dives as there is not much living coral in the gulf.. About 30 miles south of p-cola pass is an area called the trisaler(sp) grounds.. This area contains what is known as Live Rock... A type of coral I suppose.. Mostly flat rock on the bottom.. Not like coral pictures most would imagine.. But pretty much the only non-wreck diving in the area.. Wreck dives in the area consist of sunkin ww2 liberty ships, oil tankers, freighters, a ww1 battleship (just outta P-cola pass), airplanes, a butt load of ww2 tanks(those are crazy to see underwater, can get lobster from under their tracks..hehe), tugboats ('go navy' is the name of this site.. excellent dive), and airplanes.. and pretty much anything else you can imagine... All these wrecks have all sorts of life covering them.. All sorts...
Diving is a great hobby.. Perfectly safe if you approach it from a position of respect.. Once you get 15-20 dives under your belt it will be like riding a bike..
I've also dove in pretty much every corner of the Carribean.. By far better experiences than diving in the Gulf.. I've been 110ft underwater and able to look up to see waves bouncing off our boats bow.. Thats pretty freakin clear water.. I've been on shark dives in the bahamas (thats a humbling experience, if they wanted you... there'd be nothing you could do but get eatin. hehe) Drift dives outta Ft. lauderdale and Casamel(sp) island.. I've seen the contenintal shelf and looked over (down) the edge into the abyss.. Diving is truely a great experience..
By all means you should get certified.. But remember to respect other divers and respect your diving environment.... 8)
O and practice your breathing.. Its no fun to get all suited up for a 60ft dive and your buddy run outta air in 12 mins.. lol We used to compete to see who could get the most bottom time.. Or better said, who could come up with the most air... Bottom time is always against you.. You should practice to make the air your friend.. 8)
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trust me tarmac. Cold water dives SUCK. SUCK SUCK SCUCK SUCK SUCK. Ive been diveing for about 12 years now. Paid 100 dollars to get certified.( dont dive unless you take a class), but then again that was in florida where there is plenty of competition from others.
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Cold water dives are all I've done :)
Its not bad if you have a good wet suit, or preferably dry suit (which I have never used yet). On the really cold water days Prime your wet suit with warm water from a thermos ( no don't pee in your suit) and its quite nice.
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Cold water dives are not bad if you do not know any better.
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Tarmac,
You might want to check out the scuba board.
http://www.scubaboard.com
Its an open forum where you can get varied information about what you want to know about scuba.
As you are in Michigan, you might want to think about how much diving you want to do and what type.
Warm water versus cold diving has just as many fans as AH and WB and the opinions run the same range.
I dove in Hawaii for 9 years and in Puget Sound for the past 3. I like the Sound just as much as Hawaii. Of course I am diving in a Dry Suit here. Its nice to just have to towel off your hair while the wet divers are sprinting to their cars, turing the heater up to afterburner, and trying to warm up.
As others mentioned, getting the right personal gear is the most important thing you can do. I would consider the mask, snorkel, and fins as the basic personal gear, with the other gear being available thru rent until you have more knowledge as to what type of diving you want to do and what brands of products fit your criteria for price, functions, etc. I would guess $75-120 for a good mask, and $130 to $200 for a good pair of fins.
IMO safety rest entirely with you. Its up to the individual to make the determination of whether he can handle the expected conditions of the dive thru their knowledge, training, and abilities.
As Kappa mentioned, the cert is good for life, no renewal.
You do need a cert. You most likely be asked for your card when you rent gear or ask for tank fills, and you cant dive without gear and air.
As far as price of the course you mentioned, it seems reasonable. Call around to some of the dive shops in your area (or even other areas) and do a price comparision. PADI is the largest certifying agency as far as I know but there are others out there that are just as recognized.
Just for future consideration, I have about $700 in warm water gear and about $1600 in cold water. (an overlap of about $300 in dual use gear).
You wont go wrong choosing to dive safe. Best wishes.
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Cold water dives are not bad if you do not know any better.
absolutely right. I've been certified for about 27 years. up until a few years ago, all my diving was in puget sound or on the Oregon coast.
after diving in HI I can't even imagine going back to the cold water.
Go for full black or everyone will think you're a newb and laugh.
most people around here won't go for a full-black suit. you look a lot like a sea-lion to a hungry blue or a orca.
BTW- bare minimum, own your own mask, snorkle, and boots. wearing those that have been worn by a couple hundred other people is just damn discusting.
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I can't speak about the pricing. I was PADI Open Water certified in 1977. A year after cert, wallet was stolen. Two years ago Wife and I took a cruise to Grand Cayman. I wanted to dive warm blue water.
Took a few phone calls. PADI reissued my dive card. I bought a refresher course on CD rom. I reviewed it, cruised, and dove. What a hoot! Not bad for not having dived since 1977. Some things you just don't forget. Equipment was a little different but the dive Masters were a great help. We dove on a wreck, but it was in a underwater park. There was no entrances to it, so there was not a temptation to get into trouble.
The two don'ts of diving I remember from my instructor still apply: Don't panic. Don't hold your breath.
You do want the PADI cert. Most Dive shops are affiliated with the different Scuba groups and won't sell or rent to non-certified divers.
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Hi Tarmac ... I was certified in Michigan with the YMCA. My final open water dive was in the Detroit River. We entered the river up close to Lake Saint Clare and went downriver with the fast current a mile or two at 30 - 40 foot. Buddies were tied together with 6 foot lines on the wrist.
That was really trippy... and cold. Saw junk cars, old antique liquor bottles, pilings and other stuff - fish too. It was springtime, and the water was really cold.
Michigan lakes are cool for a while, but kind of empty. You can pick a nice clean shallow lake like Whitmore Lake and try going under the ice with a dry suit. Fun. For a while anyway. All the wrecks I know of in Michigan are deep and have ripping currents. Worthwhile, but they rip so much you have to get inside a wheelhouse or on the lee side to get a rest.
I'm spoiled with the amount of life you see in the Caribbean now. :p
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ya... *** a solid black suit.. I dont wanna look sealish or invisible under water.. hehe
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dive belize.
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PADI and NAUI certified in '75. I think most dive shops won't rent you gear or fill your tanks unless you are certified. Diving can be pretty dangerous if you aren't trained. Spend the time and money to get certified, well worth it.
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I got my open water certification in a very cold lake in one of our national parks. brrrrr..... My last dives were off the Greek Islands of Paros and Santorini...much nicer...
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Only an Idiot would tell you wreck diving Is not hazardous.
And no you dont have to penetrate to get into trouble either.
Wrecks are a magnet for fishing lines and ans the supuer structure and other parts of the wreck weaken from there Is a chance of colapse from something as subtle as a exhaust bubble.
So If you dont have something fall on you you still stand a pretty good chance of getting caught in fishing line.
Not life threatining Unless you freek out.
Now Keep In mind I am talking about real wreck diving people.
Not the tourist wreck diving you find In the carribean.
After your cert do about 40 dives and then take your advanced open water coures.
Then you can take a coures by TDI for wreck and cave diving .
Keep in mind that the gear for wreck Diving Is very expesive.
I have around 6k tied up just in my wreck rig.
Just start off slow and learn bouyancy and proper breathing.
And Have Fun most of all.
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Hmmm. Why is that knife strapped to your leg?
Real wreck diving? If I dive on a wreck in the Great Lakes, Is it not REAL wreck diving?
Perhaps you can consult your secret PADI handbook and tell me when I am, and when I am not REAL wreck diving.
There are excursions on the East Coast to dive on submarines. Does this mean they dont qualify as wreck diving because they are toured as a group?
Dive within your limitations and you are going to be as safe as diving in general permits. Wrecks are often graded according to their dificulty. Diving on a wreck does not require you to penetrate the wreck.
Diving underneath the superstructure would technically be penetration. The wreck diving course is geared towards P E N E T R A T I O N.
Hmm the list goes on.
You Sir are a Baffoon, meant in the kindest way possible of course.
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Originally posted by Ping
Hmmm. Why is that knife strapped to your leg?
Real wreck diving? If I dive on a wreck in the Great Lakes, Is it not REAL wreck diving?
Perhaps you can consult your secret PADI handbook and tell me when I am, and when I am not REAL wreck diving.
There are excursions on the East Coast to dive on submarines. Does this mean they dont qualify as wreck diving because they are toured as a group?
Dive within your limitations and you are going to be as safe as diving in general permits. Wrecks are often graded according to their dificulty. Diving on a wreck does not require you to penetrate the wreck.
Diving underneath the superstructure would technically be penetration. The wreck diving course is geared towards P E N E T R A T I O N.
Hmm the list goes on.
You Sir are a Baffoon, meant in the kindest way possible of course.
Well not really I am though a Divemaster with 10 years experence and over 1.800 dives with out injury.
Also I have assisted in over 200 open water , advanced openwaterand resuce diver courses.
And to my knowlege have only lost one student and he died.
Beause he had drugs in his system and freeked on his deep dive and spit out his reg and bolted for the surface.
So junior flip when you have taught Diving such as I have and you have seen how different people react then you can give advice.
The fact that YOU may be comfortable on or around wrecks Is fine and dandy.
But as a Padi Professional I cant make that blanket statement and say wreck diving Is safe for open water divers.
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Advanced classes are for weenies and good way for PADI to get you to spend money... lmao Mr.black.. Real wreck diving? As opposed to the hollogriphic wrecks tourist dive on? They are real neat till someone unplugs the projector... I saw a real nice one on Scooby Doo once..
Essential quality dive gear can be bought for less than $1200.. That will get you in and out of any non-technical diving whether it be cave, wreck, drift, spear fishing, or just plain having fun diving.. I suppose you could spend six grand.. But I dunno on what.. lol Perhaps a nuclear powered glow-in-the-dark self propelled compass... I hear those are expensive.. hehe
O ya.. snorkels are worthless too.. They just get in the way... Maybe not if you had one that produced it's own air.. 8)
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Originally posted by mrblack
Well I just happend to be a PADI divemaster
Yea thats a ok deal.
Oh no you don't, MrBlack! You made me look like an idiot in the Apache Gun Camera thread by claiming to be a sniper, dude. Now you're trying the same old tricks by claiming to be a master diver? "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."
You're too tricky for me- I'll even bet you have a fake PADI card and everything. ;)
You won't catch me again bud. :aok
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Originally posted by kappa
I suppose you could spend six grand.. But I dunno on what.. lol Perhaps a nuclear powered glow-in-the-dark self propelled compass... I hear those are expensive.. hehe
Redundency that kicks up the cost.
Hell I forgot the individual prices on all my watermelon but you can look it up If you wany
OMS back-plate approx $550
BCD dual bladder
Two sets of twin 125 cf OMS tank one set air One set nitrox approx $1000
Two posideon Odion regualtors with 8ft octopus hose. approx $1.200
Mask $75
Fins $175
Gloves $80
Drysuite $2.200
Paramedic shears $5
Dive lights primary $600
SecondaryX2 $125
Dive knife X2 $55
Two gear bags $200 total $6.260
I am sure im forgetting somethings.
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hehe wow.. glad I went to a different shop
Think I spent $200 total on 2 80cf tanks..
If you have one tank for nitrox and one regular, dont you need a different reg. setup for the different primary valves?
My regs are us divers that cost like $300 for the whole setup.. gauges too.. Primary has only 3 moving parts.. 8)
$600 for a dive light? Think I spent $80 for a damn good one..
Twice as much for fins as your mask?? ouchy
Im sure its a nice setup though black........................ ...........................
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Originally posted by Airhead
Oh no you don't, MrBlack! You made me look like an idiot in the Apache Gun Camera thread by claiming to be a sniper, dude. Now you're trying the same old tricks by claiming to be a master diver? "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."
You're too tricky for me- I'll even bet you have a fake PADI card and everything. ;)
You won't catch me again bud. :aok
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You have been OWNED:rofl :rofl :rofl
When will you tards learn to never question me!! now bow to my greatness LOL.
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Originally posted by kappa
hehe wow.. glad I went to a different shop
Think I spent $200 total on 2 80cf tanks..
If you have one tank for nitrox and one regular, dont you need a different reg. setup for the different primary valves?
My regs are us divers that cost like $300 for the whole setup.. gauges too.. Primary has only 3 moving parts.. 8)
$600 for a dive light? Think I spent $80 for a damn good one..
Twice as much for fins as your mask?? ouchy
Im sure its a nice setup though black........................ ...........................
Yeah Im kidda a gear nutt.
My dive light Is an OMS halogen 125watt with seperate batt pack.
Has a 90min Burn time.
Yeah One reg set up has to be nitrox only !!!
But in reality I have 6 or 7 regulators laying around the house so If I need one for Nitrox I just have it cleaned and make shure
That It doe not have petroleum based o-rings in it.
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JB73: IMHO breathing underwater is the most surreal experiance i have ever had. SOOO relaxing and the WOW factor was out of this world.
With real scuba gear - yes. I was doing some underwater work with a military gas mask that produces oxygen from a chemical cartige.
The supply of oxygen is more or less stable while the demand is not necessarily so. Do something more strenuous and the oxygen is just not there for a while.
The reaction is usually to tear off the mask (the cartrige is affixed to the vest right on one's chest) and surface, but the cartrige's oxygen production is activated by small amounts of water vapor expelled while breathing and real water pouring in causes it to heat up explode.
Trying to attach a 2.5-inch cable to a tow-hook of a stalled tank 10 feet inderwater is quite a strenuous exercise.
Lying flat in a shallow ditch for a few hours untill it became too dark for a lurking sniper to see us was more relaxing than that kind of diving...
Maybe some day I will get a real scuba license and do it the way it was supposed to be done - for enjoyment as JB descrbes...
miko
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O ya.. snorkels are worthless too.. They just get in the way... Maybe not if you had one that produced it's own air.. 8)
you can get a lot more dive time if you use your equipment corectly. leave your tanks alone and use the snorkle on the swim out, wait until you are above the deepest spot on your plan, hit your deepest point first and the decompression mostly takes care of itself on the way up, if you need to take a stop the computer will let you know). thanks to the computers you can take advantage of the natural decompression as you check things out on your move to shallower water (it takes a bit of your freedom away if you try to figure it with the tables, you kinda have to mind a schedual).
between using a snorkle when I don't absolutely need the tank, and being extreamly relaxed in the water, I often use less than half the air of someone who is half my weight for the same dive)
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Always wondered what happened to snorkel tanks if the snorkel wasn't quite long enough or sucked some water or whatever else would cause one to quit on the bottom of a ford.
Doesn't sound fun.
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Could be a good point Capt... I've never done a shore dive.. Always off the side of a boat... In those situations, a snorkel is useless.. hehe Soon as you hit the water your swimming for the depths.. 8)
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For most diving a snorkel Is valuble.
But for wreck tech or cave diving they get in the way and are not needed as you are in an overhead inviroment any way.
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Originally posted by mrblack
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You have been OWNED:rofl :rofl :rofl
When will you tards learn to never question me!! now bow to my greatness LOL.
You need to relearn the definition of "owned."
His sarcasm went right over your head :)
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MrBlack, according to your card you're a PADI certified ASSISTANT divemaster. Also you said:
"Well not really I am though a Divemaster with 10 years experence and over 1.800 dives with out injury."
but according to your PADI card you got certified in May of 1998, five and a half years ago.
I'm getting real tired of you playing tricks on me to make me look foolish, MrBlack.
:confused:
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I'm not a diver, but my wife is. We live in the Puget Sound area, so that's where she dives all the time. Summer temps are in the low 50s and winter's in the high 40s(yes, she has a dry suit). Here's a dive her and her friends might make in the near future.
I found an accident report from the military of an A-20 Havoc that went down in Puget Sound during the war and supposedly has never been recovered. If we can find the location, they're going to dive it. It could be cool. I will, of course, be on the boat on the surface waiting to hear all about it. I'll post something if it happens.
:)
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Divemaster....Sniper...beats me. From the hearty lean of the boat noticed in the picture, he's certainly a Buffet Warrior :p
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"....according to your card you're a PADI certified ASSISTANT divemaster."
Actually the card is saying that his Divemaster cert allows him to act as a PADI certified Assistant.
It also shows that his professional status as reflected by that particular card is expired though he could be waiting for his renewal sticker.
Anyways, 2stony, if you all find that Havoc, post the general location would ya?
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Originally posted by Seabat:
Anyways, 2stony, if you all find that Havoc, post the general location would ya?
No problem. Hopefully they will be able to bring up something off of the plane to display where I work.
:aok
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Originally posted by mrblack
Well not really I am though a Divemaster with 10 years experence and over 1.800 dives with out injury.
Also I have assisted in over 200 open water , advanced openwaterand resuce diver courses.
And to my knowlege have only lost one student and he died.
Beause he had drugs in his system and freeked on his deep dive and spit out his reg and bolted for the surface.
So junior flip when you have taught Diving such as I have and you have seen how different people react then you can give advice.
This is too easy, but here we go...
I am though a Divemaster with 10 years experence and over 1.800 dives with out injury.
That's roughly (and I'm using the numbers 1800/6 years since your cert date was 1998 and not the 10 you claim) 300 dives a year. 300 dives a year and you live in Dallas, which we all know is the SCUBA capitol of America. I did not include the extra 200 open water courses you claimbecause that would drive the numbers to a rediculous 333 dives per year.
I am though a Divemaster with 10 years
The Cert date is 1998, but the other side of the card says Member since 1999. (cough)photoshop(/cough):aok
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Originally posted by Airhead
MrBlack, according to your card you're a PADI certified ASSISTANT divemaster. Also you said:
"Well not really I am though a Divemaster with 10 years experence and over 1.800 dives with out injury."
but according to your PADI card you got certified in May of 1998, five and a half years ago.
I'm getting real tired of you playing tricks on me to make me look foolish, MrBlack.
:confused:
LOL dumchit I have been a dive master since 1999
Started diving In 1993
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Originally posted by rpm371
This is too easy, but here we go...
That's roughly (and I'm using the numbers 1800/6 years since your cert date was 1998 and not the 10 you claim) 300 dives a year. 300 dives a year and you live in Dallas, which we all know is the SCUBA capitol of America. I did not include the extra 200 open water courses you claimbecause that would drive the numbers to a rediculous 333 dives per year.
The Cert date is 1998, but the other side of the card says Member since 1999. (cough)photoshop(/cough):aok
I worked in the BVI for 6 months as a divemaster.
you would be suprized how many dives you can rack up !
I was certified in 1998 as a divemaster
I paid my Padi fees in 1999.
LOL learn what your speaking of please.
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And yes there is some good inland diving In dallas.
mostly ols rock quarry's
Oh and did you know Colorado Has a High% of Scuba divers!
Yes Colorado!!!http://www.athensscubapark.com/ (http://www.athensscubapark.com/)
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Well, it must be true then. After all, who can prove him wrong?
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Originally posted by Airhead
Well, it must be true then. After all, who can prove him wrong?
You can't LOL:aok
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Excuse me, are you the diving instructor?
(http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/nbc/saturday_night_live_episode_photos/_group_photos/jon_lovitz17.jpg)
Umm,Yeaaah, That's the Ticket!
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Originally posted by LePaul
Divemaster....Sniper...beats me. From the hearty lean of the boat noticed in the picture, he's certainly a Buffet Warrior :p
Now by God that Is Funny
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:rofl
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I'd say go for it for sure. I've been diving for years, and all over the world. In college, I dove for sea urchins to pay for school. Diving in winter off the coast of Maine is a kick and a half.
Even if you only use it once on vacation, you'll be glad you got it.
Someone said you need to dive yearly to keep your card current, and diving without a buddy is illegal.
Unless they've changed the laws and I'm not aware of it, neither is true. While you may be rusty, you're still legal even if you haven't been diving in years. Also, while diving without a buddy is stupid, last I knew that wasn't illegal either.
While commercial diving, we spent 6 or so hours a day in the water, and rarely saw another diver. We only came up to change tanks.
edit: I went through NASDS, by the way.
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I went through NASDS, by the way.
my original certs where NASDS, I later found out that their records burned in the late 70's, so when I lost my card a couple years ago, they had no record of me. luckly the shop I trained at is still open and one of the old-timers remembered me after a pointed out a pic of me in their store(at the time I was the youngest diver to certify in the state, so it was kind of a big deal to the shop at the time). now I got this SSI card, I never heard of them until I had the card, the anoying part is the damn thing says "certified 2002" instead of '77.
the old NASDS card also had a fairly cool feature of your relivant medical history on micro-film, built into the card and it also came with a dive-pendant that had the same info.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
the old NASDS card also had a fairly cool feature of your relivant medical history on micro-film, built into the card and it also came with a dive-pendant that had the same info.
They still do. It's a great feature.
I used to have one from DAN, too. I'm not sure if they're still in business, though. I haven't been an active diver, except on vacation, in years.
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Originally posted by Martlet
They still do. It's a great feature.
I used to have one from DAN, too. I'm not sure if they're still in business, though. I haven't been an active diver, except on vacation, in years.
DAN is still going strong .
it's good stuff I use along with PADI ins.
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the guy at the shop told me NASDS went out of bussiness. maybe he was just BS'n me so I wouldn't go to another shop.
thats good to hear, maybe I can get ahold of them and get a copy of my original.
edit- nevermind, I just looked it up and NASDS is now ssi. no micro-film in the new cards.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
the guy at the shop told me NASDS went out of bussiness. maybe he was just BS'n me so I wouldn't go to another shop.
thats good to hear, maybe I can get ahold of them and get a copy of my original.
edit- nevermind, I just looked it up and NASDS is now ssi. no micro-film in the new cards.
I guess I'll have to hold onto my old card, then.
Wow, nasds merged with ssi in 1999. That shows you how much I keep up with things.
Did it just merge in North America? I see some of the interntional sites still go by NASDS.