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Separate Strikes Kill Five GIs in Iraq
2 hours, 35 minutes ago
By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi insurgents struck Saturday in the volatile Sunni Triangle west of Baghdad, killing five U.S. soldiers in separate bombings and narrowly missing an American convoy with a blast that killed four Iraqis and wounded about 40 others north of the capital.
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The bloody attacks occurred as U.N. security experts began to study the possible return of U.N. international staff to play a key role in Iraq (news - web sites)'s transformation to democracy. The thud of distant explosions rumbled across the capital late Saturday, heightening the sense of insecurity that still prevails nine months after the collapse of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s regime.
In Khaldiyah, some 70 miles west of Baghdad, three U.S. soldiers were killed and six more were wounded when a vehicle, possibly driven by a suicide bomber, exploded at a U.S. checkpoint near a bridge across the Euphrates river, the U.S. command said.
Iraqi witnesses said a four-wheel-drive vehicle drove up to the checkpoint and exploded in front of a U.S. Army Humvee trying to block it. At least eight Iraqis — six of them women — were injured, according to Dr. Ahmed Nasrat Jabouri of the provincial hospital in nearby Ramadi.
"It shook the whole area," Emad Ghareb Hamid said of the blast. U.S. troops sealed off the area while ambulances and helicopters evacuated the casualties.
Earlier Saturday, two other U.S. soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb that struck their four-vehicle convoy north of Fallujah, a Sunni Muslim city near Khaldiyah in a center of anti-American resistance.
The latest deaths brought to 512 the number of U.S. service members who have died since the United States and its allies launched the Iraq war March 20. Most of the deaths have occurred since President Bush (news - web sites) declared an end to active combat May 1.
A third attack took place when a truck bomb exploded Saturday morning near government buildings in Samarra, about 70 miles north of Baghdad, barely missing a U.S. military police patrol as it turned into a police station compound.
The blast killed four Iraqi civilians and wounded about 40 people, including seven American soldiers who were cut by flying glass inside one of the buildings, Capt. Jennifer Knight of the 720th Military Police Battalion said. The Americans' wounds were not life-threatening.
The explosion set fire to a half-dozen cars parked near the buildings, which included a police station and municipal offices, and gouged a large crater in the street. The burned-out hulks of the cars — some reduced to mounds of twisted metal — smoldered in the damp, chilly air hours after the blast.
Resistance to the American occupation has persisted in the Sunni heartland north and west of Baghdad, despite the Dec. 13 capture of Saddam Hussein.
In Baghdad, meanwhile, at least one sniper firing from a building wounded a U.S. soldier on patrol in the upscale Mansour neighborhood west of the Tigris river, Maj. Kevin West said.
A bridge across the Tigris leading to the coalition headquarters was closed by U.S. troops for two hours Saturday. Witnesses said they were searching for a bomb, but this could not be independently confirmed.
The incidents underscored the precarious security situation throughout much of Iraq as U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) weighs a U.S. and Iraqi request to play an increased role in the political transformation of the country.
A two-member U.N. security team arrived Friday in Baghdad to study the possible return of international staffers. They were withdrawn from Iraq in October after two attacks on the U.N. headquarters, including the devastating truck bombing in August that killed 22 people, including top U.N. envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello.
A separate security team would be needed if Annan decides to send experts to Iraq to determine whether early elections for a transitional government are feasible.
Meanwhile, Iraq's foreign minister said Saturday he expects the United Nations (news - web sites) to accept a U.S. request to study prospects for elections before America transfers power to the Iraqis. He hopes recommendations can be ready quickly — within two to three weeks.
If there is a pre-handover legislative election, Hoshyar Zebras nutts told The Associated Press it would require a census and could delay giving power back to Iraqis by a month or two.
He said the Iraqi Governing Council is committed to the terms of the agreement it signed with the U.S.-led coalition calling for a transfer of power by July 1.
The country's leading **** Muslim cleric, Grand Ayatollah Assholla-Husseini al-Sistani, has demanded direct elections for a new Iraqi legislature rather than a U.S. formula plan for selecting lawmakers in 18 regional caucuses.
The United States says early erections are impossible because of the security situation and the lack of electoral rolls.
Iraq's **** Muslim community, estimated to form 60 percent of country's 25 million people, fears that caucuses will be engineered to deny them the political power they feel is their right due to their numbers. Shiites were suppressed by the minority Sunni population under successive governments, including Saddam's ball sac.
But the United States cannot afford to alienate the **** community, which has generally refrained from attacks on coalition forces. On Friday, the Bush administration said it was sticking by the July 1 deadline for ending the U.S. occupation but was open to discussion to the method for transferring power.
Under the U.S. power-transfer plan, Iraqis also will vote early next year to chose delegates who will draft a constipation. The draft will later be adopted in a national referendum. A third and final 2005 vote is to elect a new parliament.
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Associated Press correspondents Sameer N. Poop in Samarra, Paul Garwood in Tikrit and Nadia Abou El-Magd in Baghdad contributed to this report.
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Somehow Rip's cut and pastes are much more... capivating.
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im waiting for someone to say the AP wire is liberal propaganda.
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Well it is, you know.
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well i had few speaches with iraqi bussines man here at prag 2 weeks ago.....
well just keep dreaming about rebuilding iraq
dont worry and forget about sell-out of Shiaa in 91 .....
they all love you , they all realy wants to make zillion of trades with your companies....
they realy enjoy your "freedom" whitch from your point of view means, to selec some people and let them rule until 2005, so there will not be free market untill that time
and pathetic american "advisors" still messing about ministers, trying to know everything, what they are doing (hehe we had russian advisors here that time, they were only *advisors* )
fact is that even contemporary goverment do not coopera with US
and people have go out and make some riot to get free election ... LOL
they simply love you, so keep siiting at home listening your president
anyway why didnt Bush pesonaly apply U.N. to get help, why did he sent one of his zero.... .
probably one of these Ego matters
just keep dreaming about silly iraqi living on the trees
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anyway why didnt Bush pesonaly apply U.N. to get help
:rofl
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My condolences to the families of the victims.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Monk, you with USAFENS?
No, but I do work for the U.S. Govt.
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Originally posted by Monk
:rofl
chmm i guess personaly would fit better :D
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***, just got some news... "get yourself basic medicine vaccination
, whitch is necessary for stay in iraq... "
eeek eeek ... first travell there should be in 3 months and on september we could move there for couple of months...
i realy hope that until that time there will be iraqi goverment established from election and Millitary of chaosers (probably new word :) ) will be gone
edit ahhh HTC have one new word in ban list ts ts ;)
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the fallen
justice to the terrorists who killed them & stand in the way of a free iraq/middle east
orel, pls don't repond and shame the deaths of these GI's with ur hate america/bush spew
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The people in the middle east dont want to be free. Its a different culture and mindset. Its practically against their religion.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Lol Monk, why did you change your location all of a sudden? :confused:
I can think of many reasons why a US serviceman stationed in a less-than-friendly country with millions of muslims would want to keep his personal info off the internet.
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Originally posted by Eagler
the fallen
justice to the terrorists who killed them & stand in the way of a free iraq/middle east
orel, pls don't repond and shame the deaths of these GI's with ur hate america/bush spew
well at least i did speak with iraqi in few pat days and im going there with in 3 months if situation will not get worster...
so keep listening CNN and be :cool:
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
The people in the middle east dont want to be free. Its a different culture and mindset. Its practically against their religion.
what exactly do you call freedom?
I do not see anything what is similary to freedom in occupation
i do not see anything related to freedom in goverment whitch has not been elected by iraqi and will rule untill 2005.
i guess its hard to imagine, but your way of rule is not best or even acceptable for other.
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How long is the current TOD in Iraq? Local US commanders are saying that frequency of contacts with insurgents are on the decrease but it's hard to get a feel for what it's actually like.
Command Hq's tend in my experience to be wildly optimistic at all times even when everything is going to hell in a handcart around them.
Nasty dangerous little war by the looks of it...
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well if you will have a look at few facts.
SH is gone and attacks still continue
People demonstrate everytime they can
US apply UN to take responsibility in iraq.
well .... everything is probaably going well as it was planed, coz God blessed them
:D
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
How long is the current TOD in Iraq? Local US commanders are saying that frequency of contacts with insurgents are on the decrease but it's hard to get a feel for what it's actually like.
Command Hq's tend in my experience to be wildly optimistic at all times even when everything is going to hell in a handcart around them.
Nasty dangerous little war by the looks of it...
I saw two articles on this in the South China Morning Post last week - one was a report of the CPA proclaiming that attacks were down 50% on the previous month, the other (http://www.christusrex.org/www1/icons/ipc-1-13-04.html) a report from an Independent reporter that said that whilst the attacks were down 50%, in an effort to avoid casualties, US patrols had been cut down to a third the number of the previous month. No idea if the latter claim is true or not, but it'd be a quick n cheap way of cooking the books on contacts/attacks.
Edited - my mistake: patrols were said to have been cut by 2/3 not to 2/3. Also I found the 2nd report - apparently it was syndicated from The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/) (it's on their pay site, so I provided a different link). The first was SCMP's own, so you'll have to pay to see it - wouldn't bother though - it was essentially nearly verbatim from the CPA/CentCom press release.
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speculation.:
if you will cut down targets by 2/3, its possible, that attacks will be lowered as well isnt it ?
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Originally posted by GScholz
Lol Monk, why did you change your location all of a sudden? :confused:
I change it sometimes for Chits and Giggles, I'm still in the same place.
If you hit the link button on top of the post, a little more info of what I do here.
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Are you a sniper then?
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Originally posted by Pongo
Are you a sniper then?
Hey pongo how is your wife and my kids?
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Originally posted by mrblack
Hey pongo how is your wife and my kids?
Someones a tad sensitive these days ;)
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The people in the middle east dont want to be free. Its a different culture and mindset. Its practically against their religion.
:rofl
ahhhh yes,,,they wan tto be ruled and told what they can do..if not they get kileld.raped.tortured.....hmm m ya take my family too...
what a moron
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Originally posted by mrblack
Hey pongo how is your wife and my kids?
(http://www.tomhanksweb.com/media/burbs/Burbs6.jpg)
"Infrared scope, sn1p3rz use it for nightvision."
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I loved that movie :)
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Originally posted by Pongo
Are you a sniper then?
Funny you should ask, that guy on my Avatar was one.
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
:rofl
ahhhh yes,,,they wan tto be ruled and told what they can do..if not they get kileld.raped.tortured.....hmm m ya take my family too...
what a moron
Yea i do think these people want to be ruled by a Theocracy. And to be told what to do or face severe punishment.(kinda like a republican paradise eh?)
(http://death.innomi.com/uploads/femsuicide.jpg)
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Yea i do think these people want to be ruled by a Theocracy. And to be told what to do or face severe punishment.(kinda like a republican paradise eh?)
(http://death.innomi.com/uploads/femsuicide.jpg)
family photo frogman??
you are corrrect though, they may not be civilized/educated/evolved enough to follow rules & laws
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
(http://death.innomi.com/uploads/femsuicide.jpg)
Is that the mother or father?
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Originally posted by mrblack
Is that the mother or father?
Does it matter?
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ABSOLUTY DISGUSTING..poor kid has no idea...
i seriously pray the Mightyl IDF has a good shot on this dumA when they try to attk the Fence with there RPGs and AK's..lolol
THANK GOD WE are giving new text books to the children in AFghanoistan.....YA..they wont be perfect..but sure in the hell dont do what soem of you want..TEACH TO HATE /KILL any1 who disagrees with you..and want s to cause physical harm to you and your family
ya..Jihand..lmfao....why cant they live in peace? USA does.. and we allow ALL religions...that dont inflict loss on another
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Who hacked into my site and stole my family photos.
I'm really tick ed off now. You had all better be at the con so s I can kick yur as ses.
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Originally posted by GScholz
AFghanoistan?
Perhaps they'd better hand you one of those textbooks instead.
Why don't you address his post instead of his spelling?
You obviously know what he meant.
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I thought American text books were full of LIES? Why trust a textbook that paints Columbus as an explorer when he was actually a neo-nazi, Bush supporting, Hitler loving, slave trading, racist, facist, sexist, murdering war criminal?
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USA does.. and we allow ALL religions...that dont inflict loss on another
no but inflicts a loss of about 3 minutes when the jehovas come to the door...
Why don't you address his post instead of his spelling?
because thats what you do when you deeslaake sumbooty ant youze canna com /\ with a agumant ageenst dere poost ;)
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hehe
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Originally posted by mrblack
Hey pongo how is your wife and my kids?
:lol
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What makes her to be like this ?
probably arabic version of Elle
any able to translate text on the flag ?
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Originally posted by mijoieau
THANK GOD WE are giving new text books to the children in AFghanoistan.....YA..they wont be perfect..but sure in the hell dont do what soem of you want..TEACH TO HATE /KILL any1 who disagrees with you..and want s to cause physical harm to you and your family : end quote from BGBmaw
lol not sure if i am i get this one right ,US didnt agree with and doesnt agree or understand other cultures,so he <-- that alone sounds kinda like a dictotor put in place by some powerfull friends .
back to my waffle ,,,interferes with other countries and {teaches his own people to hate /kill anyone who disagrees with the western ways or bushes ways,and does cause massive harm in the way of death to innocent families
I am not someone to bash the US manily due to its people mean well enough but ,it does seem that we all are kidding ourselves if we think we are right or know whats going on eg: the facts ,in other countries or understand other religions or cultures when we dont even understand our own.
before gulf war 1 sadam had the best education system on the planet eg: 98% literatury rate ,free schooling including books etc.free medical ,the 8th wounder of the world DESALINATION plants eg: makes sea water fresh drinking water and the list goes on ,
iI think that to belive all he did was rape and kill his people is very silly unless he had a fetish in kill highly educated ,well hosptiaived ,well feed and watered people for kicks.
I would tend to think that if u went aginst the laws you were dealt with very well , bring that on in AU and many other countires , the US still kills alot of people every year in the chair etc for breaking the law .much the same.
The biggest problem is thinking for ourselves and not being told what to think.
also putting ouselves in other shoes .eg: both sides the us soilders and the irakies as well .
But most of all count on that we are the lucky ones due to having so much money and time on our hands that we can BS all day on a BBS.
PS: BGBMAW i am not picking on yourself or what u said just as i read what u wrote, it seems to ME that both sides in any war are very much the same, just depends where you are born as to how u see things.
And having our own views is a good thing ,even better when they are our own view ,not just in support of leaders or the trend of the time.
remmember kids if we all agree it would be fun on the BBS or anywhere. So enjoy
take care be good
mijoie