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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Capt. Pork on January 25, 2004, 01:15:59 PM
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I went ahead and changed the URL to something that more people will find closer to their hearts.
I did this not for the fear of getting banned but because the late, great Animal had apparently already posted this footage and I'll gladly be damned before being unoriginal.
Instead of prairie dogs exploding, we have larger dead animals posing happily, their bodies only perforated rather than pulverized, beside their grinning, heavily-armed, god-fearing killers. Mind you, I'm not against hunting at all. A fan of it actually. I Just think it's rediculous to post arguements that amount to nothing more than: 'My prefered habit of killing is better than yours'.
And again, if you feel sorry for the P-dogs, be more careful walking the streets in those hard-soled shoes. You're endangering the lives of thousands of insects.
Enjoy
some pics for the decent, god-fearing folk (http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/9007/h.html)
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wasnt animal banned for posting this video?
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Dunno. Never saw it here.
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yea, because skuzzy deleted the thread i thought.
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I wonder what recipe they use for eating those? I mean a real hunter only hunts for food right?
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It's a shame those people take joy in that, a true hunter thanks the animal thats life was ended to feed his family.
Skuzzy you shouldn't even allow this...
And Ban anyone who Posts it.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I wonder what recipe they use for eating those? I mean a real hunter only hunts for food right?
I believe it's a ready-to-use spread for crackers, or a great and exciting subsititute for Mayo.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
It's a shame those people take joy in that, a true hunter thanks the animal thats life was ended to feed his family.
Does an exterminator thank the cockroaches he kills?
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As a gun owner, hunter, and supporter of the NRA, I am flat out appalled that someone would actually support this type of activity. IMO, this activity should not even be allowed let alone condoned. It disgusts me to no end to think that someone actually takes pleasure in killing animals for nothing other than the enjoyment of watching it "blow apart". Taking an animal for meat purposes is one thing, just wantonly killing them when there is no end use for the animal is criminal.
I sincerely hope Skuzzy bans the poster of this thread, and further bans any other thoughtless individual who posts like fims.
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Capt. Pork, Animal was put on probation for posting that link. Don't say you weren't warned.
MiniD
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People that use guns to hunt are cowards. Use something that takes skill, like a bow and arrow.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
As a gun owner, hunter, and supporter of the NRA, I am flat out appalled that someone would actually support this type of activity. IMO, this activity should not even be allowed let alone condoned. It disgusts me to no end to think that someone actually takes pleasure in killing animals for nothing other than the enjoyment of watching it "blow apart". Taking an animal for meat purposes is one thing, just wantonly killing them when there is no end use for the animal is criminal.
I sincerely hope Skuzzy bans the poster of this thread, and further bans any other thoughtless individual who posts like fims.
You're right Bodhi, people that kill in order to put a trophy on their walls or a rug on their floor are far more spiritually in tune with the animal and the environment, and deserve respect and praise.
I'm glad your high-horse is getting a nice little workout but the fact of the matter is, Prairie Dogs are parasitic to their environment, as well as a physical threat to farmland and machinery and a health threat to cattle. They're also in no threat of being extinct. If you don't like it, don't do it, but remember that in the eyes of many, admiring the corpse of a deer you just shot for the width of the antlers it managed to grow before you took its life is just as preverted.
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No, Amnial wnsa't bnaend for tihs.
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Prairie Dogs are not parasitic, but because large predators of the prairie have all but been eliminated the population balance has been upset.
Ranchers need to control the populations of the rodents and invite shooters to kill PD's rather than large scale poisoning or bringing back wolves, bobcats and other predators to the great plains.
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LOL - you are sooooo on probation.
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maybe banned:(
I think skuzzy has no tollorence for this anymore.
He will be Pissed
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Some states/counties pay for eradication of pests, and that might be the case with Prarie Dogs. In Virginia where I grew up on a farm the state paid .50 for killing groundhogs - you would get the money for the tail. We set traps and kept a rifle in the truck.
That being said, and me being a gun owner the PD footage was over the top. I watched the Maximum Carnage and it was just gratuitous.
However, jokers like the folks who put up this site are self-limiting because all they do when they go overboard like this is to hurt their own cause.
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Originally posted by Kieran
No, Amnial wnsa't bnaend for tihs.
He was put on probation for it. He was banned for his reaction to being put on probation. ;)
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
He was put on probation for it. He was banned for his reaction to being put on probation. ;)
MiniD
Yeah but we have all been warned on this subject.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
As a gun owner, hunter, and supporter of the NRA, I am flat out appalled that someone would actually support this type of activity. IMO, this activity should not even be allowed let alone condoned. It disgusts me to no end to think that someone actually takes pleasure in killing animals for nothing other than the enjoyment of watching it "blow apart". Taking an animal for meat purposes is one thing, just wantonly killing them when there is no end use for the animal is criminal.
I sincerely hope Skuzzy bans the poster of this thread, and further bans any other thoughtless individual who posts like fims.
As a gun owner you obviously support individual rights. Of course as soon as you found something "you" found offensive, you immediately decide that Skuzzy should do something to protect you from ever having to view something like this again.
Supporting individual rights means tolerating other peoples use of their rights. Sometimes even legal activities are found to be offensive to others.
If you don't like it, don't do it. (or watch it)
IMHO
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Originally posted by empty
As a gun owner you obviously support individual rights. Of course as soon as you found something "you" found offensive, you immediately decide that Skuzzy should do something to protect you from ever having to view something like this again.
Supporting individual rights means tolerating other peoples use of their rights. Sometimes even legal activities are found to be offensive to others.
If you don't like it, don't do it. (or watch it)
IMHO
This Is a BBS for a WW2 flight sim.
What exactly does exploding prarie dogs have to do with this?
And also It has been explained that free speach here dont count.
This Is the Aces High Forum and HT owns aces high therefore they run it as they see fit.
And Skuuzzy has said before to NEVER post anything like this again.
Seems pretty clear to me.
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Actually, this is "The O' Club", and as far as I can tell by observing little is stated in here regarding WW2 or Flight Sims. I believe that is why I seldom frequent this area of the boards. I guess I had too much free time today.
Now my comment is in response to someone alleging to be "pro gun" but acting very much like the opposition. I don't really care much what people do with guns so long as it doesn't bother me. If it does I think I'll be able to take care of myself.
I also don't care if people have abortions. I don't think that abortions are right, I would never encourage someone to have one. I'd probably help that person find other options.
I do not think that my beliefs should be imposed on others by "making a law."
As for this BBS, well its a privately owned business. This server is either owned or leased by HT. It's Skuzzy's server, I guess he can do what he feels best. I have never seen any posting regarding this subject matter previously.
Again, IMHO,
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Originally posted by mrblack
This Is a BBS for a WW2 flight sim.
What exactly does exploding prarie dogs have to do with this?
This as opposed to trans-Atlantic instardnet dating, which falls into the 'lend-lease' category.
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Just FYI: http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105643
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Originally posted by mrblack
This Is a BBS for a WW2 flight sim.
What exactly does exploding prarie dogs have to do with this?
And also It has been explained that free speach here dont count.
This Is the Aces High Forum and HT owns aces high therefore they run it as they see fit.
And Skuuzzy has said before to NEVER post anything like this again.
Seems pretty clear to me.
yanno, am i the only one who finds this respone highly amusing?
anyway, watched the vids... seems a kind of waste of high-powered ammo. they'd be better served using .22's, altho it'd be less graphic.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Does an exterminator thank the cockroaches he kills?
Were talking animals, that have a society here..
Cockroaches do not belong in houses, so they are killed, just like an alligator is killed or relocated for being in a swimming pool, or a bear killed or relocated for being in a neiborhood.
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Ok, sure people should be exposed to these lunatics, and yes it is something that someone in their life must witness.
I just hope that the guys that do this for pure enjoyment, go to hell and our blown apart like these things were, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, eternity after eternity.
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Originally posted by empty
As a gun owner you obviously support individual rights. Of course as soon as you found something "you" found offensive, you immediately decide that Skuzzy should do something to protect you from ever having to view something like this again.
Supporting individual rights means tolerating other peoples use of their rights. Sometimes even legal activities are found to be offensive to others.
If you don't like it, don't do it. (or watch it)
IMHO
Empty,
While your point is well put, I do not think that this activity is to be tolerated, and is illegal in quite a few places thus far because of the brutality and viciousness of it all. I will spend a lifetime advocating the cessation of this disgusting activity, and they, will probably spend a few months advocating it. In the end though, the majority will rule in this case, and I can guarantee that it is fast coming. Colorado is already pushing forth legislation to end this practice, as are 3 other states. Seems to me that is logical sense. Then again, I may be wrong.
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I just hope that the guys that do this for pure enjoyment, go to hell and our blown apart like these things were, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, eternity after eternity.
Wow Hawklore, were you born that stupid or were you dropped on your head?
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Originally posted by Shane
anyway, watched the vids... seems a kind of waste of high-powered ammo. they'd be better served using .22's, altho it'd be less graphic.
Ruger 10-22 with CCI Stingers always worked pretty well for me. They didn't always blow up but the vermin were just as dead.
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Cue Buddy Jesus...
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Look, I'm a vegetarian, and an avid hunter. So I realize that animals, like women, were put on this earth for our fun and amusement. If you don't like it, get a sex change.
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LOL, Suave wins!
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for the christian view point he does mayby but bloodthirsty is common there.
they were not put here for fun and amusment for some religions.
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Prarie dogs are vermin. They cause econmic damage to the ground and injure livestock.
Killing them is no different than poisoning rats.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Empty,
While your point is well put, I do not think that this activity is to be tolerated, and is illegal in quite a few places thus far because of the brutality and viciousness of it all. I will spend a lifetime advocating the cessation of this disgusting activity, and they, will probably spend a few months advocating it. In the end though, the majority will rule in this case, and I can guarantee that it is fast coming. Colorado is already pushing forth legislation to end this practice, as are 3 other states. Seems to me that is logical sense. Then again, I may be wrong.
i would assume you dont make a living from the cattle biz. and you need to to quit killing rats too.
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thats just f*ing sick.
you should be banned for that.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Wow Hawklore, were you born that stupid or were you dropped on your head?
Dropped on my head.. :lol
That was just a joke there...
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Originally posted by Dune
Prarie dogs are vermin. They cause econmic damage to the ground and injure livestock.
Killing them is no different than poisoning rats.
:rolleyes:
There only a pest because farmers killed off all the wolves and coyotes...
Or had them relocated..
Just build a big Green house to protect them or something :p
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Originally posted by Suave
Look, I'm a vegetarian, and an avid hunter. So I realize that animals, like women, were put on this earth for our fun and amusement. If you don't like it, get a sex change.
A black vegetarian at that.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
There only a pest because farmers killed off all the wolves and coyotes...
Or had them relocated..
very true words from yon youngen.
they want no praire dogs, but want no coyotes either. they want 100s of acres all to themselves. no other creatures except what they put there.
it just doesnt work that way. to quote jurassic park (i know lame source but words hold true) life will find a way.
btw that is sooo going to get pulled. dont think because it's sunday that noone from HTC is here.
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it just doesnt work that way. to quote jurassic park (i know lame source but words hold true) life will find a way.
SURVERY SAYS:
EEEEHHHHHHHHHH!
Myself and 4 other firearms instructors/range officers from my range do the varmit control for the Alberta Provincial Rodeo Association. Read 2 sections of land, all of it grazing pastures, primarily for horses/riding bulls etc.
In the opening months of spring, there is literally so many targets that with a semi auto 22 you can fire a round every 10 seconds for hours on end. After a month of FOUR of us being there for a few days a week, you need to wait for hours for something worthwhile to shoot. This is called a "shot out field".
Look around where you live there JB. I bet it's in a city. I bet you don't see many prairie dogs or other varmit animals running around, do you? Life will find a way my bellybutton ;) . More like Humans will find a way to exterminate what is in the way or what we don't like. Ranchers don't like putting horses down after they break a leg stepping in a dog-hole, hence, we put holes in the dog'd heads, and that's pretty much all she wrote.
Funked, if you ever do the Pacific Coast Highway trip in that SubieDoo, make sure you bend east to Alberta, if you want to blast dogs, this is the best place on the planet to do it, we shoot em right out to 1000 meters plus, there is THAT many of them.
edit > "People that use guns to hunt are cowards. Use something that takes skill, like a bow and arrow." - Frogman
Hahah, ok. "Skill" huh? I shoot a lot of arrows every year. It is no more or less difficult than shooting say, pistols out to 25m, or rifles out to 1000m. They are simply DIFFERENT skill sets. I've hunted pigs in California with knives (retarded California Paintball players from team SoCal Ironmen drop from trees on the pigs with knives, I didn't believe it until I saw it, and laughed so hard I could barely do it), and Cape Buffalo with a 600 Nitro. I was using skill during both hunts, and use skill every time I pull the trigger or release an arrow.
If you don't like hunting or the senseless killing of animals, then just say so, but making comments that aren't super logical just makes you look less intelligent than I know you are.
Also, I find it interesting that the "off topic" part of the BBS is heralded as "WAH WAH IT's A FLIGHT SIM BBS, DON'T POST ANYTHING I DISLIKE OR DISAGREE WITH" by so called defenders of the right to free speech (eg. Liberals). Why is that posts about child abusers (Michael Jackson et al), drugs (I lost count at 100 thread topics), and strippers (best thread ever, haha) go unchecked and unbanned? The parameters for what is deemed acceptable are a bit confusing these days.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Were talking animals, that have a society here..
Cockroaches do not belong in houses, so they are killed, just like an alligator is killed or relocated for being in a swimming pool, or a bear killed or relocated for being in a neiborhood.
Cockroaches don't have societies? What the hell are you talking about? They have societies more intricate than most. So do termites and ants and little mice that live in your basement or attic. They're also all living, breathing creatures--only they're not as cute as prairie dogs, who, btw, ruin crops and farm animals all the time. Maybe not as dramatic as an alligator in a pool, but far more costly to certain people.
As for people going to Hell--judge not lest thee be judged. How many dust mites did you murder today without feeling a twinge of remorse.
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I donno if people go to hell or not, but I do know you will at least be put on probation if not banned outright for posting this again and not removing it having found it to be against HTC policy.
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Originally posted by Furball
thats just f*ing sick.
you should be banned for that.
Thanks for your input Furball.
Your avatar slightly offends my sensibilities as a fan of martial arts. I think you should be banished into the upper atmosphere.
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Backed by popular demand, I've edited the link to something Hawklore and Bodhi can relate to easier.
I guess we all learn from our experiences. What I learned from this one is that god likes it when you blow away a large animal and then smile at its carcass.
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in:rolleyes:
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It's really a humane way of getting rid of the little bastards. They don't have time to feel a thing. One second they are sitting there and the next second they are meatloaf.
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I'm all for pest control and stuff.
But using expanding heads, hollow points, fragmenting rounds on these things is just too much. There's no reason to do it other then the satisfaction these poor bastards get from doing it.
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I hear the thing to do is to use steel-jacketed, plastic-cored rounds for maximum velocity and explosiveness.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Cockroaches don't have societies? What the hell are you talking about? They have societies more intricate than most. So do termites and ants and little mice that live in your basement or attic. They're also all living, breathing creatures--only they're not as cute as prairie dogs, who, btw, ruin crops and farm animals all the time. Maybe not as dramatic as an alligator in a pool, but far more costly to certain people.
As for people going to Hell--judge not lest thee be judged. How many dust mites did you murder today without feeling a twinge of remorse.
Oh boy...
Caught another fish on the hook with the hell comment. :rofl
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Laser the idea is to kill them with the first shot. You don't want the little guy running around with a bullet in him, or a clean hole that might take a day to kill him. We started using Stingers (high velocity hollow point) just for that reason.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
It's really a humane way of getting rid of the little bastards. They don't have time to feel a thing. One second they are sitting there and the next second they are meatloaf.
Have to agree with you on that one..
But, why make them EXPLODE?
Well one is for enjoyment I guess..
Other is so you don't have to go out on the field and clean up your kill?
Thats called being lazy..
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:aok
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Hawklore the exploding is a by-product of using expanding or fragmenting bullets. Even with our .22 rounds we would sometimes get their innards blowing up. You want to err on the side of using too much force. Like I said, the idea is not to have wounded squirrels limping around.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Oh boy...
Caught another fish on the hook with the hell comment. :rofl
It's not the word hell that caused the reaction, it was the utter stupidity that appeared to the right and left of it. Way to acquiece on the whole varmint hunting issue though. We went from being evil to lazy in the space of two dozen posts.
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Funked, can you get CCI's Velocitor's there? If you think Stingers are something, try a box of those out through your 10/22. It sounds like a bomb going off in comparison, the round shoots flatter and further, and the effects are far more lethal.
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Gman I haven't done this kind of stuff for 15 years or so, so I'm a little out of date on the ammo. I always used my friend's guns, Marlin .22, 10-22, and an 870 in case we had flying targets or fast movers like jackrabbits. :)
All the places we used to hunt are now suburban sprawl anyways. :(
Edit: Thinking back I can see the need for better ammo. A lot of times we would have them frozen, but then as we moved for a closer shot (between our lousy shooting and the light Stinger bullets we needed to be inside 50 yds, preferably 25 yds) they would sound the alarm and all run in their holes.
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Originally posted by Gman
SURVERY SAYS:
EEEEHHHHHHHHHH!
Look around where you live there JB. I bet it's in a city. I bet you don't see many prairie dogs or other varmit animals running around, do you? Life will find a way my bellybutton ;) . More like Humans will find a way to exterminate what is in the way or what we don't like.
In Ottawa all along the 417 in the grass sections for the on and off ramps, they are loaded with groundhogs.
So I will have to say you are wrong on this one Gman :)
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my dad always had his .30-.30 on the tractor with him for groundhogs. their burrows could snap a tractors front wheels (close together). my brother and i used to clear the gophers on the golf course on that farm with air rifles. funniest gopher story was my brother shot one right in the *** apparently, it did a backflip and took off.
funniest 30-30 story would be my dad taking aim at a woodchuck in a field across from the 4th green (we were driving down the road on the tractor). there was a guy chipping onto the green, and he no clue as tro what we were doing. he threw up his clubs and took off hell for leather when he heard the shot.
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Capt.Pork,
Your such an idiot sorry, but you are...
Funked1,
Ok, makin more sense now, but I still question the guys that do it nothing but for the enjoyment of them..
I don't judge by the persons cover anyways, if there out there killing for the fun of it there obviously wrong minded in one way or the other,
but still it's an industry that alot of people invest in and "we" can't destroy that industry, "because" there are lots of "people" that live off of it.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Capt.Pork,
Your such an idiot sorry, but you are...
If you're an intellectual by your own estimation, I'll take that as a compliment. To think, big words like 'idiot' from a guy who can't string together a coherent sentence.
On that same note, learn how to use contractions. When you combine the words 'you' and 'are' to form a single word, there magically appears an ' and an 'e' at the end of it. Really, master it. Not only is it fun and exciting, but it's actually a fundamental part of the English language.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
If you're an intellectual by your own estimation, I'll take that as a compliment. To think, big words like 'idiot' from a guy who can't string together a coherent sentence.
On that same note, learn how to use contractions. When you combine the words 'you' and 'are' to form a single word, there magically appears an ' and an 'e' at the end of it. Really, master it. Not only is it fun and exciting, but it's actually a fundamental part of the English language.
Actually Pork, contractions are considered a lesser form of the english language. In comparison, contractions are kind of like the portion of Americans that spend their time blowing up animals for sheer pleasure are a lesser form of American society in the majorities eye. Only difference is that, I, and most others, do not want to see people who use contractions strung up and beaten with a split bamboo cane.
This disagreement has run it's course, you have your opinion, I definitely have mine, and in the end, you realised what would happen should you leave that up, so you removed it. Kudos to you, but personally I can not help but think that you are one demented individual if you find amusement in that form of entertainment. Then again, I always have had odd opinions of those that kill, maim, and otherwise torture animals for the fun of it... silly me.
:rolleyes:
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I don't regard contractions as lesser. They allow better flow and fewer syllables--which, while less sophisticated, is more efficient--in my opinion, anyway. We all use them in speech.
Some people, in spite of their simplicity, cannot use them in writing.
Concerning the arguement, Bodhi, like I said before, I don't buy the whole 'my killing is better than your killing' approach. Whether you pulp a little animal or simply stop the heart of a large one, you're enjoying yourself in the process. Again, I'm a fan of hunting, but I'm also of the belief that there is no longer the widespread life or death need to do so. You can kill and eat a deer one week, and you can go to the grocery store the next. Given that, it becomes a choice, a choice involving stalking, pulling the trigger and inevitably enjoying the act of the kill. Concerning Prairie Dogs specifically, well, they're pests, and widely seen as vermin. I've personally never shot one. I have, however, since early childhood, been really good at shooting flies off windows and walls with rubber bands. I've yet to feel remorseful for doing so.