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Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Rafe35 on January 25, 2004, 10:56:14 PM
CNN News (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/01/25/sprj.nirq.main/index.html)
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: SunTracker on January 25, 2004, 11:34:20 PM
Iraqis are known for torture.  I think the Iraqi insurgents will probably execute the pilots while video taping it, like the newspaper reporter.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Frogm4n on January 25, 2004, 11:43:34 PM
why are we there
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: SunTracker on January 26, 2004, 12:06:39 AM
We disposed of a monstrous dictator who chopped people up for fun.  

After re-reading the article, I bet the pilots simply drowned.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Pongo on January 26, 2004, 12:54:05 AM
everybody tortures. Some do it themselves some get other countries to do it for them.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Saurdaukar on January 26, 2004, 12:57:03 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
why are we there


Because.

Go back to work.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: SunTracker on January 26, 2004, 01:22:15 AM
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Two pilots of a crashed U.S. Army helicopter were missing Sunday, after they crashed into the Tigris River


Yeah, I bet an Iraqi submarine picked them up...
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Frogm4n on January 26, 2004, 09:15:49 AM
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Originally posted by SunTracker
We disposed of a monstrous dictator who chopped people up for fun.  

After re-reading the article, I bet the pilots simply drowned.


Then why are we not in North Korea or other countries that have dictators that do these things.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Saurdaukar on January 26, 2004, 09:56:08 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Then why are we not in North Korea or other countries that have dictators that do these things.


When we do go after them, Ill remember this statement when you voice your distain.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: AKIron on January 26, 2004, 10:01:49 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Then why are we not in North Korea or other countries that have dictators that do these things.


We are in what once was occupied by North Korea. Yes, we kicked them out and yes we are still there 50 years later. If we hadn't stayed, South Korea would have been defeated and look much like North Korea does today, empoverished and enslaved, instead of prosperous and free. Maybe you should rethink your position?
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: miko2d on January 26, 2004, 11:29:09 AM
Frogm4n: Then why are we not in North Korea or other countries that have dictators that do these things.

 First, we've got to have them disarm themsleves on the assurance that we are only concerned with our safety or some weapons falling into the hands of terrorists.

 Once they do so, the government will declare that it was never about weapons but about them being non-democratic and attack them.

 miko
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: AKIron on January 26, 2004, 11:51:13 AM
Your cynicism and bitterness are blinding you miko.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Frogm4n on January 26, 2004, 11:59:37 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
When we do go after them, Ill remember this statement when you voice your distain.


We will never go after them. Unless we find oil.
Also democracy isnt democracy unless the people of that country fight for it.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: mrblack on January 26, 2004, 12:19:19 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
We will never go after them. Unless we find oil.
Also democracy isnt democracy unless the people of that country fight for it.


There might be some truth in that:(
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: kappa on January 26, 2004, 12:20:25 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Also democracy isnt democracy unless the people of that country fight for it.


For certain truth in that...
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Dowding on January 26, 2004, 12:22:22 PM
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Because.

Go back to work.


How eloquently you state what is left of the pro-war argument. Bravo.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Holden McGroin on January 26, 2004, 12:34:37 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Also democracy isnt democracy unless the people of that country fight for it.


Isn't Canada a democracy?  Our neighbors had neither a revolutionary nor a civil war and yet they have established a democracy.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Frogm4n on January 26, 2004, 12:38:47 PM
fighting for democracy dosnt always mean a war. Plus your talking about a western culture. Everytime we try to export democracy into a 3rd world eastern culture it falls apart. If the people of a country want a form of government they will fight for it.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 26, 2004, 12:42:38 PM
Because we *know* the un's fight for freedom is working.  :rolleyes:



By the way, the newspaper guy was pakistan.  They caught those who did it and tortured them to no end.  Then they executed them.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Dowding on January 26, 2004, 12:45:58 PM
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Because we *know* the un's fight for freedom is working.


Since when has the UN been charged with freeing downtrodden people everywhere?

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Iraqis are known for torture. I think the Iraqi insurgents will probably execute the pilots while video taping it, like the newspaper reporter.


They were Iraqis though! Working in Pakistan. They are the same ones than flew planes into the WTC! Damned Iraqis.
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Holden McGroin on January 26, 2004, 12:59:20 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
fighting for democracy dosnt always mean a war. Plus your talking about a western culture. Everytime we try to export democracy into a 3rd world eastern culture it falls apart. If the people of a country want a form of government they will fight for it.


So I find a nation which achieved independant democracy via a negotiation table and It does not qualify under your blanket statement. Check

I guess Japan, who had its western style democracy thrust upon it and its constitution written for it by a foreign military occupation force does not qualify as even though it is an eastern culture, it is not 3rd world...  Check
Title: Pilots missing in Iraq after U.S. chopper crash
Post by: Fishu on January 30, 2004, 02:51:22 PM
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2004/nr20040130-0284.html