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Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ping on January 27, 2004, 06:19:09 AM
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1075158558705_2///?hub=Canada

This really does piss me off. It maddens me to think that we will now have to pay to care for him and his family when he is nothing but criminal scum.
Let Pakistan keep him, execute him, just dont allow him and his family back here.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on January 27, 2004, 07:33:12 AM
Of course neither should America....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50466-2004Jan26.html?nav=hptop_tb
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Maverick on January 27, 2004, 10:57:23 AM
He went to Pakistan on his own, he should stay there. Let his al queda buddies take care of him.
Why Canada should even consider it is beyond me.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: MJHerman on January 27, 2004, 11:59:06 AM
I'm no fan of stories like this, but from the article let's get a couple of facts straight....

1.  He is a Canadian citizen.
2.  "The Pakistanis are ready to let him go. It looks like they don't have anything against him. They won't object to his departure."

So, until his citizenship is revoked he is entitled to return to the country of which he is a citizen, particularly if "they don't have anything against him".  Presumably, our Government doesn't have anything on him either and even if they did, they would not be allowed to deny him entry to Canada (although he might immediately be charged and be locked away).
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: FUNKED1 on January 27, 2004, 12:06:30 PM
WTG Shadyfraud, never pass up a chance for an anti-American post that has nothing to do with the thread subject.   :aok
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Batz on January 27, 2004, 12:41:33 PM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Of course neither should America....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50466-2004Jan26.html?nav=hptop_tb


wtf the are you talking about? He is a suspected "wounded Taliban fighter" who will need medical care the rest of his life. The cost just to get him to Canada is estimated at $30,000 (canadian I assume).

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The boy's three brothers have also been suspected al-Qaida members - Omar, 17, is a prisoner at the American base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; Abdurahman was captured, released and returned to Toronto; 22-year-old Abdullah, who is believed to have operated an al-Qaida training camp, is on the run.


His father was killed in the same action where Abdulkareem was wounded.

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The official said Canada will issue a passport to the young Khadr, who has family in Toronto. But there remain at least 20 questions that must answered before he can be repatriated, not the least of which is: who's going to pay for his transport?

It is likely Khadr is a stretcher case who will need medical escort and possibly a private plane or air ambulance, the official said, estimating transport alone at more than $30,000.

"Is it going to be automatic medical coverage by OHIP?" he said. "It's going to be an expensive operation.

"That kind of money - I don't know where it's going to come from. The family will have to be canvassed."


Now wtf does your link have to do with this situation?
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on January 27, 2004, 12:46:06 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
WTG Shadyfraud, never pass up a chance for an anti-American post that has nothing to do with the thread subject.   :aok


oooh that wonderful American habit of slightly changing a name in a distinct and ever so humorous way!! I'm honoured, shouldn't you be saluting me and wishing a nice day in that shallow nauseating manner to which the world has become accustomed?
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ping on January 27, 2004, 12:50:50 PM
Also watch the video link at that site. The Older brother admits AlQ training but his theory is put all that aside and think of the poor child. Wants the Government to pay for medical and shipping costs
 These are people with admitted terrorist training and either wounded, killed, on the run or captured. Nice family, I hope they move in next to me.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: FUNKED1 on January 27, 2004, 12:53:00 PM
Shinyfro, your handle is too long, and it's in some weird language, too much for we stupid yanks to handle.  :aok
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Creamo on January 27, 2004, 01:07:40 PM
What does _shavendudes_ sig say?
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Holden McGroin on January 27, 2004, 01:12:25 PM
Hey now, let's not start making fun of people's names.

I was emotionally scarred and it took years of therapy to get over the damage done to me by insensitive children in grammer school.

schadenfreude \SHAHD-n-froy-duh\,
noun: A malicious satisfaction in the misfortunes of others.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: FUNKED1 on January 27, 2004, 01:17:01 PM
At least he's honest.  :aok
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Creamo on January 27, 2004, 01:22:48 PM
No harm intended.

Cue John Candy in Stripes.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: airguard on January 27, 2004, 01:37:09 PM
14 year old terrorist, disabled and a canadian citizen.

well get the fuker home and bring him to court, then you can judge him :)

dont understand all the wuss about it, newspapers get fat on stories like this and  this is one among the rest  of them.

What if the name was John Johnson (and white)and he been a member of a "free the world of coloured people somthing stupid"

what then ?
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ping on January 27, 2004, 02:49:40 PM
Prob is some of his other terrorist family are already home sucking the fricken system.
Gad, Im becoming an isolationist me seff.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Gyro/T69 on January 27, 2004, 02:54:23 PM
"What if the name was John Johnson (and white)and he been a member of a "free the world of coloured people somthing stupid"

what then ?"


Let him rot where he is. He made his bed.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ripper29 on January 27, 2004, 03:11:05 PM
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Originally posted by Gyro/T69
"What if the name was John Johnson (and white)and he been a member of a "free the world of coloured people somthing stupid"

what then ?"


Let him rot where he is. He made his bed.


:aok
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Batz on January 27, 2004, 03:11:36 PM
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well get the fuker home and bring him to court, then you can judge him  


I can guess that some Canadians don’t want to get stuck with his medical bills. Someone has to pay to bring him home. Someone has to pay his medical bills. Someone has to pay for his prison cell and to feed him.

I would guess there are many folks who would say his injuries are punishment enough. They may not want him locked up at their expense. I for one would not want to pay for the decisions he and he family made.

It's not about his race or religion or any such non-sense. Whether his name is John Johnson or Abdulkareem Khadr.

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newspapers get fat on stories like this


Maybe so but they also provide a service by letting their customers and in this case, Canadians Citizens, know what they might end up footing the bill for.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: kappa on January 27, 2004, 03:22:51 PM
14yr olds receive no compassion? no apathy?? you guys are animals....
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: vorticon on January 27, 2004, 03:32:17 PM
14 year olds are still unhardend clay...then again his brothers are terrorists...that means he is most definatly one to...and is completly incapable of changing...


:rolleyes:
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ping on January 27, 2004, 03:33:40 PM
Adult crime, Adult time
Pakistani reports are that he was firing weapons as well.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: vorticon on January 27, 2004, 03:42:01 PM
depends...if he's just doing it because he's always been told that its the best thing to do then no...
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ping on January 27, 2004, 03:46:14 PM
Im sorry but....at 14 yrs old, I knew that firing a weapon at someone could result in their death. He took his stand, even if ill informed. If he had killed someone what would your opinion be?
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: FUNKED1 on January 27, 2004, 04:12:22 PM
Yep when I was 14 I always aimed over their heads.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ping on January 27, 2004, 04:28:47 PM
Prairie dogs?
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: FUNKED1 on January 27, 2004, 04:37:12 PM
As a teenaged kid running around with other teenagers with guns, helping the local agricultural industry fight pesky gophers, ground squirrels, jackrabbits, and blackbirds, there was only one really stupid thing I saw, and that was when we spotted a kid we knew while we were out hunting, riding his bike along a trail, not seeing us.  One of the guys I was with fired a shot over his head (not close over his head, just high and in his general direction) and scared the kid so bad he fell off his bike.  Fortunately the kid on the bike saw the humor and didn't tattle on us.  We laughed our tulips off, but in retrospect it was really dumb.
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on January 27, 2004, 04:39:40 PM
Yeah it was Funked, man you were a stupid little bastard.

Shoulda gone for the front tire.
-SW
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Ping on January 27, 2004, 04:41:34 PM
hahahah.
:)
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: NUKE on January 27, 2004, 06:00:24 PM
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Originally posted by kappa
14yr olds receive no compassion? no apathy?? you guys are animals....


so, you are a liberal.  :lol
Title: Re: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: miko2d on January 27, 2004, 06:51:58 PM
Ping: This really does piss me off. It maddens me to think that we will now have to pay to care for him and his family when he is nothing but criminal scum.

 Are there precedents? Whatever happened to the american commies that fought against spanish patriots as part of Abraham Lincoln Brigade?

 Didn't they get into trouble with FBI and Subversive Activities Control Board in the 50s?

 miko
Title: Canada shouldnt let Terrorists in.
Post by: Gyro/T69 on January 27, 2004, 11:38:44 PM
"depends...if he's just doing it because he's always been told that its the best thing to do then no..."


I agree, then why should the Canadian government, population be held responsible for his actions (pay for it)? I don’t believe they had anything to do with his programming.
His family held the cards for that bit of brainwashing. Let them carry the burden they ingrained on their son.