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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Shroom on December 08, 2001, 02:02:00 AM
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What a banana just whatched nearly a solid hour of his Rubbishing the game and other players. If he dont like it why dont he pack his kit and move on instead of ranting on channel 1??
Any way thank the gods I was Discoed, and didnt have to see his infernal meanderings any more
To all the other players do yourselves a Favour and squelch the Idiot and leave him squelched!
<S> To HTC for having the patience for our whines, I feel better now.
I say He is the Numero uno TARD of the Millenium
<S> Shroom
<S> Maj. Mushroom, Sqrn Leader, No.467 Squadron "The Kelly Gang" RAAF
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The guys that cry the most log the most MA hours.
Not sure why that is.
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You're pretty perceptive for a relatively new pilot Mushroom. <S>
I need to write a squelch macro for my joystick.
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Gee...he still around, huh? Is he still spouting all that crap about X-plane and blade element theory and all?
I thought he got banned a while back...if he didnt, its a good suggestion.
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Aye that he is Sling
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Especially since IL2 is gold you figure between xplane il2 ans vulchin newbies in the ta he just wouldn't have the time... :rolleyes:
Hes probrably SuckingSwanSwallowingDuck.... ..
After all hes used shade personas before on this board.
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Especially since IL2 is gold you figure between xplane il2 ans vulchin newbies in the ta he just wouldn't have the time...
Toad you readin' this?
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Actually its quite funny to skim through these boards here, Read all the complaints about all the inaccurate this and that, and gamplay issues/lake thereof, yet see people defend these things while playing. :rolleyes:
I mention the fact that Aces High has simplified Ground handling and you guys go off.
hehe Whatever your lame, you obviously dont/cannot tell the differnence when it comes to one thing representing certain aspects of flight/Ground intervention more precisley. :rolleyes:
In aces high, the Ground handling is a joke. The need to actively watch for ground loop is pretty much none existant. The only plane that even remotely gives clues to the need for specific rudder athority is the F4U.
IN Aces you cannot even rev the Engine and expect a nose over with/with-out breaks in planes that have such power/torgue to do so. :rolleyes:
Ground Effect in aces?... hmm non-existant.
Moose said it best about the SPIN model in IL2 Being more realistic, I whole heartedly agree. ALong with that there are obvious other aspects of flight that IL2 Simulates in a more fluid manner. Sorry Aces, but even with a data table matching perfomance specs, the "Feel" of flight is not present.
As far as the X-plane Issue, Get over it, those who still linger on this are obviously the closeminded simpletants that cannot take the time/effort to download this piece of excellent airfoil simulation.
A few quotes on the topic
I read what you'll write and just thought that I would share some of my thoughts on IL2. I'm 51 and have been flying now for 35 years (yup, started when 16 and in high school). Flown a Breezy to a 747 (current job as Capt & Sim Instructor on 74 for a cargo airline). With a total of 23,000 hrs
with time in B747, DC-8, DC-9, DC-4, DC-3, BE-18, PA-ZT, PA-31, BE-58, BE-90, BE-100,
C-421, C-402, C-401, C-310, C-210, AA-5, etc.
I use to judge the flight sim by how well it looked like gun camera footage and EAW & MA I thought did a reel good job of that. Then along comes IL2 and blows them all away. Not only does it feel right but it looks right. When I fly thru the clouds it looks like cloulds to me. The mist in the valley is exactly the way I see it in real life. The flight model feels like it is as it should be allthough the only plane I could compare to would be some time I've flown in a T-28. I've thought that some of the older Mooney's
may also come close to a WWII fighter. I've been flying the flight sims now since BOB (the original Battle of Britain) was the hot sim. And when not working or flying sims I build and fly RC so you can see that once you get the flying bug you never get rid of it and I wouldn't trade a minute for any other job in the world.
Sorry for the ramble all.
74Capt
Yeah, I have about 30 hours in both a J-3, and a 152. One does have to "dance" on the rudder pedals.
23,000 hours, now that is something, and he says it's right!
All I can say is that I haven't even loaded up another flightsim since Il-2. And I haven't even scratched the surface.
Oh and for all the idiots that Keep claiming that Il2 Doesnt "LOOK" good and is nothing special compareable to aces, I think You need to start taking that medication, because IL2 is Generations/leaps and bounds beyond where Aces High is/Will be for a Long... LONG... Time..
It kinda makes you think Why Olegs team was Able to Implement DX 80 features and Aces hasn't
Oh and please tell me why With all the Graphical Extras that IL2 Has, I/others/everyone ..... Gets the Same if not better Frame rates than the Older use of The Aces High graphics DX display.
Another thing that is Funny, is the Fact that you keep complaining about the (Seemingly) Beach-Ball Sized Bullets, and the ablitly to UNREALISTCALLY HIT someone From D1.2k out, yet wind up comming back to defend it.
You Poor old saps... Maybe realisim is not what you want after all.
:rolleyes:
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How many players can IL-2 support multiplayer?
How many planes does it model?
How much does AH charge for its boxed version?
How much does IL-2 charge per month?
Apples and oranges, Deez. Why make a fuss about it?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Why the fek do you keep comin here and startin crap.....
If its so good go play it.
What you think of Aces High is obvious......
If xplane and il2 are the "end all" of modern flight sims then I'd imagine you would have no trouble having fun there.
You must have a personality disorder. Most folks that have had any interaction with you have concluded the samething.
All you do is run off at the mouth as if your opinion about anything mattered. As much as you talk about how bad AH is you keep coming back. I know its not because of the "friends" you've made here because I have yet to see one. So what is it.
Are you the kid no one liked so you have a need to act out?
Deezcamp, Dweeb or tard............
or just a fediddlein nutbag?
I'm sure theres 7 laggy folks on Ubi Soft waitin for an 8th to launch. Hurry you might catch umm.......
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Originally posted by Wotan:
Especially since IL2 is gold you figure between xplane il2 ans vulchin newbies in the ta he just wouldn't have the time... :rolleyes:
Hes probrably SuckingSwanSwallowingDuck.... ..
After all hes used shade personas before on this board.
UP YOURS! :mad:
As I remember corrdectly I was supposed to be Zygote as well. Remove your head from your anus or I'll send you a practologist to do it for you! :mad:
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Still waiting for Deez's epiphany; the one were he realizes his point was made long ago, but people simply don't care.
This game provides the best combination of elements that allow me to suspend disbelief long enough to have a good time. Without doubt there are things it could do better. Without doubt there are things it coud do worse, too. The only thing that really matters is whether or not I am having fun with it. I might say the same for you too, Deez.
Everyone that plays has ideas for improved gameplay, and ideas are always welcome. The problem can be that sometimes people don't accept their ideas are not going to be utilized. In your case you want HTC to write code more like Oleg or the makers of X-plane.
What you fail to realize is this isn't HTC's niche- why go do what those manufacturers have done? Might as well sell the company and go work for them. Or, if you want to get right down to it, Microsoft Flight Sim has sold more copies than any flight sim in existance- should HTC follow that path, too?
Many people here fly more than one sim; I certainly do. Most people don't have a problem discussing the pros and cons of each in a more-or-less balanced manner. It just seems bizarre to me that you would spend your entertainment time going to an open arena channel on a sim you seem to detest simply to pontificate on the virtues of a competitor's product. If this is your idea of fun, I hope the X-plane formula is forgotten forever. I rank that kind of fun up there with sitting at a retirement home and listening to folks complain about arthritis, dental hygiene, and high government taxes.
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Yep...exactly what Kieren said.
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Well, I haven't even D/l'd IL yet.
Been pretty busy, but mostly I like the "MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER" part of online gaming.
IF... and only if.... IL ever gets up to a "MASSIVE" level it could possibly become a contender for my extremely rare and valuable online "play" time.
It would be possible to build a better FM than AH; this one isn't "perfect". I suspect IL isn't "perfect either. However, of the other "massive" contenders... FA, AW, WB... not one of them has been able to do better than AH.
Perhaps IL2 has; perhaps. However, IL2 has been unable to meet the "massive" challenge, hasn't it?
I will eventually get IL2 and take a look. But just as I haven't played a "box" game for any significant amount of time since the AH beta debut, I sort of doubt I'll spend a lot of time with it.
Eye candy is sweet for a while but it doesn't make up the entire gaming experience I'm looking for.
The "perfect" FM? Well, I've seen some really "perfect" women openly displaying their affection in magazines... but I prefer the actual company of another "normal" human being rather than the sound of one hand clapping to a display of perfection.
(Before you yap about the "multiplayer" aspect, I don't consider "32 players in dogfight and 16 players in cooperative missions" anything more than one hand clapping. Get up over 100 and I'll be more interested.)
Now Deez, run along. I'm sure you have other more important things to do than strut your superior intellect and <cough> flying experience before this crowd of unwashed illiterate peasants. Besides, isn't that your Mommy calling you?
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toad... also note "Hes probrably SuckingSwanSwallowingDuck.... .."
he is either doing the act or being the person... either way it's hillarious.
lazs
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This is the same retard who whone for MORE than an hour (SERIOUS!!!) one night because I roped him in a P-38L and then told him he sucked. This was a while ago, but I still remember, and those who were there should too.
This is one of those sad people one should just ignore.
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Amen Kieren, excellent post.
Dont waste your breath on DeeZ, he lives for creating havoc.
Nim
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Hmmm...Lazy1. So so far I'm supposed to be this Deezcamp and Dues01. How silly you are. Why don't you ask Mr.HiTech if it's me. Oh of course, you wouldn't do that, cos it would require you to remove your bald head from that nice, warm, comfortable place you call your anal passage. :rolleyes:
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.squelch 6
.squelch 1
Way I start my day every day.
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When Hitech mentioned at the con that they finally banned DeezCamp, I was happy.
Knowing he must have begged to come back and whine the way he does just makes me wonder :rolleyes:
Last time I checked, the airplanes in Aces High spend 99% of their time in the air. IL-2 is no threat to AH just as AH is no threat to IL-2. I beta tested Sturmovik and I own the game now. When I need eye candy and special effects, I go to IL-2. When I want a good time, I go AH.
On a side note, if Ubi designs their mass multiplier side of IL-2 like they designed their Ubisoft connect software, well.. :D :D :D That sim ain't goin nowhere. (right drex?)
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No, AH on the ground does not replicate real well the ground handling characteristics of real tail draggers. Like it or not, that is necessary since crashes would be very common if they did, and plenty of players would get frustrated and quit AH. Its still a business that needs players, alot of players and pissing them off wouldnt do much good. Better to have a few thousand players paying to play with a good flight model and simple ground model, then a few "ultra-realism" guys who had what they wanted for ground handling when they sit around and discuss that game they used to play that went out of business.
Make it too hard and not enough guys would play. Just who in the hell plays AH for the ground handling of an aircraft anyway???
Dago
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Just out of curiosity Dago, how would the planes handle if it was on full realism?
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Ground Effect in aces?... hmm non-existant.
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There is ground effect in AH. Although its subdued more than I would imagine, its there.
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Originally posted by Dago:
.... Just who in the hell plays AH for the ground handling of an aircraft anyway???
Dago
Same guys that stole their sister's Barbie & Ken dolls and then left the clothes on and just "drove" around in the Corvette. ;)
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My guess is it has been about a month since DeeZ was online with us (maybe more) and he has grown tired of offline play (it does get boring you know). So, he decided to come online and demonstrate his mastery of IL2 by informing us all how far astray we are. Then, everyone that attempted to inform him of his mistake, were subsequently attacked and berated.
He even informed me that I have no skill and no artistic talent. WTF?
I don't care what your flying skills/knowledge are, DeeZ, but I do want to see your SUPERIOR modeling skills. You call yourself an artist, so let's see it.
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
Hmmm...Lazy1. So so far I'm supposed to be this Deezcamp and Dues01. How silly you are. Why don't you ask Mr.HiTech if it's me. Oh of course, you wouldn't do that, cos it would require you to remove your bald head from that nice, warm, comfortable place you call your anal passage. :rolleyes:
FDSS; how would HTC know who you are? Would you have us believe you think that everyone always has the same IP address or that it isn't easy to get a free dial-up account?
Bottom line; on a bb we are what we write. If one writes inane drivel then one's "name" will be "Dweeb" or "Tard" regardless of how many handles one may affix to said postings.
Kind of a double-edged sword eh? While you can hide under anonymity you may also be mistaken for someone you'd rather not be associated with.
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Originally posted by AKIron:
FDSS; how would HTC know who you are? Would you have us believe you think that everyone always has the same IP address or that it isn't easy to get a free dial-up account?
Bottom line; on a bb we are what we write. If one writes inane drivel then one's "name" will be "Dweeb" or "Tard" regardless of how many handles one may affix to said postings.
Kind of a double-edged sword eh? While you can hide under anonymity you may also be mistaken for someone you'd rather not be associated with.
God, some people really need to start using their brains. I once read that on average, humans use ten per cent of their brain power at any giving time. I think this guy just proved the theory right. :rolleyes:
Now, I'll say it s-l-o-w-l-y for you...though I really wish you could have thought of this yourself. :rolleyes:
Ok, use...elephant...tools....to. ..do....a...whois....query... on.. .the...IP...address.. .and...he'll...probably.. .find....the...ip...does...no t...originate.. .from...the...UK...
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[ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]
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LOL FDSSW.. ..
Comon Now... everyone knows that you are me.. and I am you.. lol :rolleyes: :D
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Deezcamp said:
LOL FDSSW.. ..
Comon Now... everyone knows that you are me.. and I am you.. lol
You'll have to forgive the rational people that frequent this BBS. Most of them were having a tough time trying to understand how you could be so stupid... now they have to deal with the notion that someone out there may have you beat.
AKDejaVu
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FDSS-
Spoofing IP's is a trick not all that hard to accomplish- FWIW (no, I will not tell you how- no practical purpose for that other than mischief). I don't think you are doing that necessarily, but you do come off as a regular who is trolling.
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You know FDSS, positive attention well earned is much more satisfying than the negative attention earned through acting a twit or an ass. I learned this as a child, guess some folks never do.
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Originally posted by Kieran:
FDSS-
Spoofing IP's is a trick not all that hard to accomplish- FWIW (no, I will not tell you how- no practical purpose for that other than mischief). I don't think you are doing that necessarily, but you do come off as a regular who is trolling.
Looks like we have another genius in our midst. :rolleyes:
Don't you think they sprout like mushrooms on this board?
Wrong, actually spoofing is very hard to do. It requires a decent amount of hacking "knowledge" and is a form of "hack"
Ok, I will provide you with a technical definition of spoofing:
Spoofing is the creation of TCP/IP packets using somebody else's IP address. Routers use the "destination IP" address in order to forward packets through the Internet, but ignore the "source IP" address. That address is only used by the destination machine when it responds back to the source.
A common misconception is that "IP spoofing" can be used to hide your IP address while surfing the Internet, chatting on-line, sending e-mail, and so forth. This is generally not true. Forging the source IP address causes the responses to be misdirected, meaning you cannot create a normal network connection.
However, IP spoofing is an integral part of many network attacks that do not need to see responses (blind spoofing).
Examples of spoofing:
man-in-the-middle
packet sniffs on link between the two end points, and can therefore pretend to be one end of the connection
routing redirect
redirects routing information from the original host to the hacker's host (this is another form of man-in-the-middle attack).
source routing
redirects indvidual packets by hackers host
blind spoofing
predicts responses from a host, allowing commands to be sent, but can't get immediate feedback.
flooding
SYN flood fills up receive queue from random source addresses; smurf/fraggle spoofs victims address, causing everyong respond to the victim.
Now, any one with half a brain cell would know that spoofing would not work in Aces High main arena because supposedly you'd want a response from the Main Arena server to return the packets of information to your computer. Right? Ok, so all Mr. Hitech has to do is check the logs for my I.P. address when I logged in as Tempest9 during my 2 weeks free trial and compare it with my IP address on this message board. So, he has now established that I am from the UK.
Now, if Mr. Hitech checks Dues1 or Deezcamp's ip address and finds it originates from overseas, not only will I have the problam of hacking into an ISP's server (which have firewalls with BIG BALLS), I will also have the problem of fooling the ISP that in fact I do originate from that country even though the server will know I do not by my foreign dailing code. Capish? :rolleyes:
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You hate arrogance, right? :rolleyes:
Who said anything about IP's in the MA? I'm talking about the BBS. You know, lower-right-hand center, "IP logged"?
You are the most boorish person I ever met. Quite an athlete, though, you can throw a wet blanket the length of a room.
That is a proper English term, BTW. ;)
boor·ish (brsh)
adj.
Resembling or characteristic of a boor; rude and clumsy in behavior.
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FDSS -
Practologist? Don't you mean Cracktologist? And he harrasses me about my speelink?
Zygote AKA FDSS AKA Deez AKA God AKA Pyemia
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Originally posted by Pyemia:
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Practologist? Don't you mean Cracktologist? And he harrasses me about my speelink?
Zygote AKA FDSS AKA Deez AKA God AKA Pyemia
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Up yours! You aren't me. I am me, you are you. Don't try to pass yourself off as me. Impersination is immoral! :mad: I have only one me! :mad:
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Regarding the original question, Dweeb or Tard?
I contend that the specimen is actually a genetic cross between a dweeb and a tard, in which the offspring has maintained the whimpering, whining behavior that characterizes the Dweeb species while attaining the dull-witted and insensitive features of the Tard.
This flexibility may very well confer improved survival skills in the competitive BBS and MA environment, allowing this new species to out-compete both the Dweeb and Tard. Of course this hinges on the critical question as to whether this new species (Dweebis tardarius) is able to reproduce. Conventional wisdom suggests that the chances of this individual finding a willing mate are remote. However, I suggest an immediate and complete ban on all cloning research is the only sane response, considering the potential evolutionary upper hand of this new species and the resulting effects on our environment.
[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: myelo ]
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I don't even know what this is all about, but one thing is clear.
The toejamtingSwan is a very boring, witless bucket head.
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What a troll!
Ground handling??who the hell gives a crap about that?It's just a game morons play it the way it was designed or get the hell out.what a couple of dweebs. :p :p
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<S> Myelo that is a Good summery ROFLMA :D
Shroom
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Hmm..this seems to have turned into quite a pissin contest. <G> I think I agree with Creamo (gasp!) on this one. Comeon Creamo, I'll buy you a beer and a sheep. :D
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Originally posted by Creamo:
I don't even know what this is all about, but one thing is clear.
The toejamtingSwan is a very boring, witless bucket head.
A psychologists report earlier this year concluded that insecure and small willied males will resort to insults when they have nothing better to say. :rolleyes:
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hehe, FDSS you have no idea with whom you are messing... :D
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errr....an insecure, small willied man?
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errr....an insecure, small willied man?
I don't doubt that you are messing with this on a regular basis. And if you don't stop, you could go blind.
AKDejaVu
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Well now, that’s 2 references to my trout in less than 30 minutes.
Seems the toejamtingSwans ulterior motives here are clear about what he wants to obsess on and discuss, and I really don’t think it’s on topic or necessary. Kinda odd really.
I’ll pass.
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I was just quoting what I had read. Don;t take it out on me if the experts consider you're an insecure and small willied man, Creamo.
But it makes you wonder when people like Kieran say "FDSS you have no idea with whom you are messing... Well, if he has information to the contrary, then I apologise, Creamo. Though it makes you wonder how he would know. I just don't think it's good form to show your privates to other people on this forum. Tis all. :D
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Here we go... :D
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Originally posted by Toad:
The "perfect" FM? Well, I've seen some really "perfect" women openly displaying their affection in magazines... but I prefer the actual company of another "normal" human being rather than the sound of one hand clapping to a display of perfection.
Hehe, ::spew coke:: Nice one :)
Spitboy -SW-