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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: RAM on November 06, 2000, 02:05:00 PM
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A tiffie has just shot me down when I was at his six, 200 yards away, I smoked his engine badly, got position to finish him and sudennly started hearing pings. no guess that only 5 pings and I was history.
UBIF, if you are here do one of this things
a) get a new connection, because you must have more than 5 seconds of lag.
b) stop firing backwards in a typhoon. Cheater.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/mad.gif)
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 11-06-2000).]
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And no, I have no F"$%32ing damned film. I spotted a typhoon at some 700 feet of altitude (I was 6K more or less), and dived on it. I dont film many fights but for sure this one had no challenge.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/mad.gif)
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 11-06-2000).]
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Thats called Killshooter I think.
Shoot the red ones next time. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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It has been proven that hacking AH is a reality.
That being said, I can only let this one slide. I have seen several *strange* happenings lately but I think its a server/network problem. We now average 130/150 players online when I visit the MA regularily. Back when the average was 70/90, things just seemed more stable. Case in point: last night I was fighting a F4U and he got a zoom pass on me. He fired his guns but I didnt get the pings until he was D2 in front of me.
The warps lately have been pretty bad.
Yeager
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This guy NEVER had a shooting chance on me, and I repeat it NEVER.
I only let open a door to a possible lag matter. But at 200yards on his six and with practically no closure rate at all, this guy must have a lag measurable in seconds. in MANY Seconds.
He wasnt warping.
He wasnt avoiding my attack!!!!!
He wasnt maneouvering at all!!!!!
and I started getting the hits when I was dead at his six!!!!!!!
There is no other solution: CHEAT.
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Wow RAM, that's the worst deductive reasoning I've ever heard. You'd make a great witchfinder (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Great duma.
Then what do you suggest (Apart of a guy with 5 seconds of lag?)
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my bet is it was lag
Eagler
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If it was lag and the guy was seeing me in his fore quarter then explain me why wasnt he maneouvering for a shot?...
was he waiting for me to sit in his 12 o clock dead?
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
not logic.
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You got tailgated by someone with tracers off while being fixated on an what appreared to meat on the table.
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Negative ,no enemy cons nearby. There was a knight but cant remember who was.
I checked it several times, he was the only enemy near.
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Calm down RAM! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I have seen this also. In fact several times. It has occurred ON and OFF since beta, rarely enough not to create concern.
The only thing I can figure is that if you or your opponent lose a stable connection, the game sort of "Keeps you both in it". By that I mean the disco plane keeps going on for a short while exactly how it was going before disconnect. As soon as reconnect occurs it warps to a new position.
IMO, you were chasing a "Ghost". Consider this; the con was not maneuvering, because of disco; and thusly seemed to ignore you. In reality it did see you and reacted. Your attack on the Ghost led you into a position to be attacked by that very same con who had been manuvering in the in between time.
I believe this is what you saw. However, I have no way of knowing for sure and there has been some discussion in the past about "Line Choking".
Good Luck Bud! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"Hind tit suckin whiners. Begone with yah!"
Hangtime
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(http://www.hitechcreations.com/pyro/lastwords.jpg)
Ever hear of Occam's razor? Making this type of post is bad form and is about as detrimental to the game as cheating is. If you feel this was a case of that, you should email me with the details. You yourself have stated before that you've been accused of cheating. Why is this different than that?
We can't prevent all cheats from ever happening but likewise we can't be prevented from detecting it either. It's a prime concern for any online game. Throwing around accusations of cheating is the online sim's equivilent of throwing around accusations of child molesting. You don't have to be correct to attach a stigma to somebody and make everybody else paranoid or out on a witch hunt.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
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sigh.. sounds a bit like the spit catching a diving f4u....
Saw a high con, no one else but me in area.
watched him, (figured he'd seen me too...)
saw him start to drop, so I started shallow dive at full bore. He dropped some more, I went deeper dive, (I'd been at about 12k, he reportedly started at 20) kicked wep on..
watched as my speed crept up the scale...
450 indicated, around 420 true..
Icon shows on dropping spit.
deepen my dive...
500 knts indicated, 480 true..
Spit still closing.. (down below my rear LOS now)
indicated now at about 510, true around 490. Carefully holding it at that speed, (don't need compression)
3 minutes or so later, Spit caught me...
when I asked him how he mamanged to turn and fight his spit at 500 knots plus, he replied his top speed was never over 380 indicated
All this in a sector and a half,
(over 30 miles), straight away continuous dive... no turns, no jinks untill I saw shells passing canopy
I'm wondering which FM is seriously porked now....
unfortunately I never film anything so I can't even show it to HT or Pyro...
btw NOT accusing anyone of cheating here,,
it's just one of those things that make ya go
Hmmmmmmmmm....
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GreyBeard, Squadron Leader
Commander, "E" Flight, Aces High
Senior Staff Council
"The Skeleton Crew"
"Fly with Honor"[/i]
"Keepin' the Faith"
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[This message has been edited by SC-GreyBeard (edited 11-06-2000).]
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Mino...
Its not a ghost. Cant' be. as I said before, I hit his engine badly. Radiator and oil at the same time (grey and black smoke). Engine still running,tho.
I pulled back trhottle and got his six. Then PING PING PING PING CRASH!!!!!, and I went down on flames. Since the oil and radiator leak started until the pings, less than 5 seconds passed by. No material time for him to reverse over me and get a shot.
You can't damage a ghost, mino. You can fire and hit it but you wont see the damage until the server "sees" that the damage is "received" by the other guy's FE.
I have shooted at a lot of ghosts before. I NEVER saw smoke on one of them before I saw their warp...
So it can't be a ghost.
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Pyro I understand your answer. I have no proof of this, film was off (I will put it on ALWAYS now, any time I enter fight. Its bad enough to see this, to find I have no proof).
But take all the signs again:
-bounce on tiffie: tiffie KNOWS I am there (I was diving on him after a hi yoyo to follow a break turn)
-stable hits on him. Engine badly mauled, radiator and oil lines damaged
-the guy doesnt maneouver at all, nor to evade me, nor to "fire at me" if he is seeing me in his front quarter
-I get his dead six few seconds after I land the hits on him and just then PING PING PING KABOOM!.
-He couldnt be a ghost, as I saw clearly the damage on him.
-He had NO TIME to do a loop, turn or whatever to get my six in less than 5 seconds.
-There was NO Enemy nearby (again). because:
1)-I checked it. Several times. last time when I started the last bounce (roughtly 15 seconds before my death)
2)-THere was a knight near (some 1.5K-2K away). I cant recall his name, but if he had seen an enemy its likely that he would've have reported it when I said "hey you cheater" in #1 channel.
All this leads to only one thing:
CHEAT.
I dont have film, but I have eyes in my face...
[edit]yes, westy, I did read his post. This was intended to be my last post in this thread. I had to put ALL the things straight and in a clear order, the clearer way possible, so there is no doubt about what I saw.
I dont want to make harm to AH, in any way. But we have seen several times people who has hacked the software...so this is nothing new (that I know of)
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[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 11-06-2000).]
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RAM, did you read Pyro's post? Just this once, let this topic die without needing to get the last word in. It's for eveyone's good.
<S>
-Westy
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Originally posted by RAM:
Negative ,no enemy cons nearby. There was a knight but cant remember who was.
According to your post you were at 700 feet. An enemy fighter 200 feet below that alt would not show up as a dot on a radar. He may have been trying to sneak up on the tiffie himself and got you instead.
This kind of accusations is too serious to make without having a film. Just record all your flights.
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BS Ram.. pure and simple.
There are several things that could have happened to cause this situation... on both yours and his FE. You chose to call him/her a cheater instead. Bad form.
A situation occurs that you don't fully understand. You chose to insult the other pilot's character first and foremost.
If you want answers.. its better to avoid starting with an insult.
AKDejaVu
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RAM..
You may have encounter Net Lag and that may have put you in a Collision situation ( as collision sound like hits )..
I have had this happen to me when i was 400 on a cons 6. He warped & i collided with him.
I was accused of cheating last night and i know for a fact that i wasnt. I been flyin online sims for 11 years now, cheating is pointless. You gain no knowlegde cheating.
I was flying Typhoon and was told Typhoon cant turn with Spit. It must mean i was cheating. So point being, dont accuse anyone of cheating unless you have solid proof like Screen shots or film. Mitsu did good doing this a while back.
Dog out...
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Originally posted by miko2d:
According to your post you were at 700 feet. An enemy fighter 200 feet below that alt would not show up as a dot on a radar. .
ARG didnt make it clear.
I was at 5.5K altitude(best low level altitude for going at very high speed in Fw190A5,I was running as fast as I could to A6 to join a vulchfest (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)).
I spotted a very low tiffie ,6K away from me, very low, ESTIMATED ALTITUDE: 700 feet.
(I saw his icon from 6K away, he was very low but not under 500 feet).
I dived on him, he did a break turn. I did a high yoyo and dived on him again. Then all that thing happened. Hit him, smoked his engine, maneuvered at his dead six and then ,at 200 yards from him, PING PING PING KABOOM! wing gone and I die.
Sorry I didnt put it more clear. I hope that now and with my previous post it is clear.
[edit] DejaVu, its ok. Can you please tell us some of those "several things that could have happened to cause this situation... on both my and his FE"?...because I see NOTHING that explains it...
Wardog, then why did I heard cannon pings?...a collision sounds like a CRASH!!!! not like pings and then KABOOM wing gone[/edit]
[edit again]Cobra, he did a break turn in my first bounce. I did a high yoyo and bounced him again. This time he did NO maneouvers at all. only straight level flying, nothing else. and PING PING PING KABOOM!!![/edit]
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 11-06-2000).]
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RAM,
Which is it...he was not manuevering at all and was not avoiding my attack, or he did a break turn?
You have stated both in 2 different posts.
I say BAN THE TYPHOON!!
Cobra
<edit> You know, when you find yourself in a hole.........
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Stop doing this to yourself.
It's not a perfect world babe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ice
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Ram, if there was a second Typhoon down on the deck, you wouldn't have conned him until you were close and he might well have been out of your view.
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*2)-THere was a knight near (some 1.5K-2K away). I cant recall his name, but if he had seen an enemy its likely that he would've have reported it when I said "hey you cheater" in #1 channel.*
That's further proof? That's proof of why so many people squelch channel 1.
Your argument for this stems from an seeming incapability to admit even a possibility of an error in SA in a situation where it could easily occur. Instead of talking to the other person on private to see what happened from the other side, you jump on 1 and start making cheating accusations.
Sorry, but from what you've written here, I would support the second gunmen from behind the grassy knoll theory as the most probable. Maybe we should see what Oliver Stone thinks.
BTW Ram, you never answered the question I posed to you. How is this different than the times you said you were accused of cheating?
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
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Originally posted by Pyro:
That's further proof? That's proof of why so many people squelch channel 1.
I went on #1. noone said a word. IF a second typhoon was there, would both the knight and the two typhoons there had all #1 squelched? improbable.
I checked all around for enemy cons. Lower than 500feet enemy cons show at 3K. I saw no more enemy planes than the one I attacked. I checked again while doing the high yoyo, just before diving on the con. There were no enemy cons.
One thing is to have bad SA other is to be blind. PLease pyro dont insult me. There were no enemy cons near.
Your argument for this stems from an seeming incapability to admit even a possibility of an error in SA in a situation where it could easily occur. Instead of talking to the other person on private to see what happened from the other side, you jump on 1 and start making cheating accusations.
There was no such error, for sure. Some times I miss to check around me for cons. This was NOT one of them.
If I hadnt looked then I'd havent reached the conclussion of "cheat", I'd have asked for who was and tehn I'd be pissed because lack of 6 call... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) but that is another story.
BTW Ram, you never answered the question I posed to you. How is this different than the times you said you were accused of cheating?
A)-I'm a known guy in MA. If I cheat and I am caught it will be well known. This guy (UBIF) smells like second account to me. I never saw him before in MA, seems just like those cheaters reported some weeks ago carpet bombing with P51s... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif).
b)-I have strongly stated ALWAYS my position agains EZ things, and always asked for the beiigest realism possible. Only a stupid will ask for hard realism with such strenght as I do, only to try to hack AH.
c)-I have no damned idea of programation. Heck, even when I put anything new on my computer I run into serious trouble and have always to ask for help.
There are more. But I think there is no doubt about me hacking AH.
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as a last thing that I'll add to dismantle the "secon gunmen theory"...
I checked six while spinning down wingless. There was nobody there.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
(BTW I PUT MY WORD, RAM'S WORD, THAT I SAW THIS THING AS I AM TELLING IT AND THAT I AM DESCRIBING EXACTLY MY ACTIONS) (At least as exact as I can).
Its my word. I have shown a lot of times that I have a word and keep it. And that I have a high sense of honor too. I dont put my word at stake if I know I am lying or avoiding to say anything that could be important.
As I saw, I say.
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RAM,
Before you make this kind of accusation you MUST be absolutely, 100%, no two ways about it, sure that it was cheating. And once that has been met, you shouldn't post this kind of thing in the forums, you should e-mail your info and evidence to HTC. Keep it private between you and them. That's the only mistake that Mitsu made.
Awhile back I chased down an F4U-1C and blew his tail off. His bellybutton dropped and spun him around so he was flying (kinda) backwards. He immediately blew my Spit away with his cannon. He spun around fast enough and I then spun him out of view fast enough that if there had been just a bit of lag, about .66 seconds I would not have seen what happened (I only saw his bellybutton drop and his guns point skyward as it is, but it was enough to extrapolate what happened), and if we hadn't both been credited with kills on each other I would have thought that somebody snuck up on me. If that scenario was just slightly affected my lag on my end and not on his end it could easily have seemed like cheating.
But it wouldn't have been.
Cheating is a serious charge, very powerful ammo (more so than Hispano ammo by a long shot). Be very, Very, VERY careful how and when you employ it.
Sisu
-Karnak
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>I went on #1. no one said a word. IF a
>second typhoon was there, would both the
>knight and the two typhoons there had all
>#1 squelched? improbable.
Maybe they just didn't see the point in responding. They just rolled their eyes. A decline in the will to respond is one of the many symptoms of R.O.F. syndrome. (Ram Opinion Fatigue) : A unfortunate and debilitating disease that many AH pilots suffer.
HT, I've asked you before and I understand the reasons you gave, but, we BADLY need a permanent squelch list.
Wab
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Last night Creamo touched me in my private spot.
REALLY!!!!
He did.
I swear!
It had to be him...
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
eskimo
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RAM
Connections have been screwy for me since Friday. Several times today I saw planes warping backwards. With warps like that it is quite possible for you to think you are on a guy's six and for him to think he is on your six.
Did it occur to you that YOU might have been the one with lag? When you are lagging, all the other planes appear to continue on their present course and speed. So while he appeared to be cruising along on the deck on your screen, on his screen he might have been blasting a warpy RAM that overshot him badly.
Also RAM how do you know there was not a plane on your low six?
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For what its worth, I have experienced a similar situation, I got into a fight with a P38 while flying my 109G10 a week or so ago, after merging, the P38 moved to d400-d500 on my level 12 o'clock. I WEPed to him but couldn't gain on him. A few seconds later, I start taking pings, and I get shot down. (on my front end he was pointed the other way)
Was it a cheater? No
What happened? Net Lag
How do I know this? Because I was on private channel with drex the whole time. (pilot of the P38) I told him what I had seen on the private channel, he checked his connection, said he saw an irregularity and relogged. From what I remember, he said the fight looked normal on his front end.
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I just checked UBIF's score. He's been around since Tour 4, and if he's found a way to cheat, I think he needs to refine it a little. He's also got a low occurence of discos.
Ram, the only problem I see in this situation is your inability to accept the possibility that it was either,
A: Your lack of SA (and I'm NOT trying to insult you with this)
B: Some wierd net snafu
C: a REMOTE possibility that he was cheating
...in that order
The fact that you jumped on channel one and blurted out that he was a cheater proves to me that you were thinking more with your pride than your brain on this one. Email Pyro about it if ya need, but keep it off the BBS man.
This poor guy was just flying along in his Tiffie, and was engaged by a better pilot (at least by the numbers) with alt, something goes screwy and the next thing he knows he's being called a cheater on the open channel.
In my worthless unsolicited opinion, you should apologize for posting this guy's name on the BBS and accusing him of cheating, and try to keep this stuff private between you and HTC.
I don't mean to give you too much toejam, but I think you're wrong on this one.
SOB
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Consider this:
You have been dogfighting this guys for a turn or two and a old packet with your old position gets lost in the net-ether and gets delivered to Your NME's FE. On your FE your behind him, on his FE you warp in front of him, he takes a shot and hits, you warp back to the rear position (what he sees, not what you see), you fire at him, your FE recieves the damage packets from his FE, you hear cannon pings, you go down.
The net is a *huge* internetwork of thousands of servers an millions of users with trillions of packets, and packet loss occurs, packet delay occurs - this sort of thing wouldnt even show up on your conection beacon, so it would look fine to you, no warps from where you were sitting, maybe from where he was siting - did you ask him how he managed to hit you?
This explains what happened, in a simple and explainable manner and no cheating was involved. Occam's razor (the simplest answer is often the correct one).
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Ram last night was a weird connect night.
Did you relog? did you look at your net stat?
I had one typhy warp 6 times in 1 360 degree turn. Dont you get tired of this?
Best you could do was go hunt the guy and try to force force him into that situation again. Get in touch with someone you know in his country and see if you can track him down.
Turn on the camera...
A thousand whines and unsubstatiated accusations dont add up to a single good picture.
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Originally posted by Pongo:
Ram last night was a weird connect night.
Did you relog? did you look at your net stat?
I had one typhy warp 6 times in 1 360 degree turn. Dont you get tired of this?
Best you could do was go hunt the guy and try to force force him into that situation again. Get in touch with someone you know in his country and see if you can track him down.
Turn on the camera...
A thousand whines and unsubstatiated accusations dont add up to a single good picture.
Last night every time I got on the 6 of a particular rice burner he would warp out of view at 600 yds...happened 5 times in 3 minutes. All I could do was shake my head and write it off as someones bad connect. Would have been easy to call him a cheat but for the fact that I finaly did kill him from his 6. Could it be that the old "Backass Warp" has migrated from AW to AH <eg>
Lars
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Blah blah blah blah blah....
blah blah blah blah blah....
blah blah blah blah blah...
blah blah blah....
blah blah blah...
blah blah...
blah.....
F' IT!
-SW
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RAM complaining, now there is something you dont see every day.
Well, actually you do. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
RAM, the more you complain, the more people will disrespect you.
Playing from Spain, maybe the problem is your connect. You are quick to blame everyone else, but it is possible it is you. Either way, it would be nice to not have you complaining all the time. You make this board a less then good place for the community and I am sure many are tired of your act.
Time to grow up.
Dago
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Maybe this was your problem RAM...
(http://www.geocities.com/weissdr1/backfire.gif)
Damned Typhoons.. I'll tell you what...
-SW
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Cant believe I read this thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
For goodness sake Ram, enough is enough.
So ya ran into an ahole abusing some sorta bug or something it happens, thankfully not very often. Last week I ecountered a photography expert taking screen shots in the middle of a low circle fight. He finally died, and I was lucky enough to get his name. All I can do with that info is remember that is his style, and avoid him if possible. Ranting, and raving endlessly I feel would reflect on me negativly.
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Had a 5 to 1 K/D goin.. and in one hour; I got warped/dead about 10 times. There goes the K/D ratio. I saw everything that RAM saw; plus a few neat new twists besides.
Was I annoyed at my local host? Yah. Was I peeved because HTC ain't set up a HA yet to take off some of the 150+ guys I see on in the MA when I wanna fly?? Well, truth be told; sure. Was I frosty because circumstances beyond my control or influence adversely effected my enjoyment of the gameplay?? Hell; yah. The cat caught a fast punt.. so now the cat's PO'd too. Misery loves company.
Did I hop on the BBS and make myself a ravening lunatic anout it?? Not this time.
Did I get on the open channel and tell those ten guys that got 'free' warp kills on my bellybutton they was cheaters??
Nope. And anybody that does accuse ANYBODY of cheating or hacking without documented evidence routed thru the games owners and god forbid; then tosses it on the BBS is worse than any cheater ever exposed. Truth.
Would I go to the BBS and ask the other guy what he saw; and try and figure out what happened without inferring he's cheating? Maybe.. if others saw it and could confirm it.. If his score was 2 zillion to none.. if a whole buncha things happened that did not happen here; then MAYBE I'd ask politely what he saw.. but only maybe. Too easy to cause a mis-understanding, or ruin a rep.
RAM.. Engage brain before keyboard.
Hang
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You answered yourself RAM.
He wasnt avoiding my attack!!!!!
He wasnt maneouvering at all!!!!!
Think about it. You shouldn't call people cheaters unless you have solid proof btw.
Thanks
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As far as i can see if this guy has somehow managed to make his plane fire backwards why would he fly a typhoon? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
surely he would fly a F4c if hes a score/kill potato (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
hazed (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
Maybe this was your problem RAM...
(http://www.geocities.com/weissdr1/backfire.gif)
Damned Typhoons.. I'll tell you what...
-SW
ROFLMAO
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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
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I WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED BY CREAMO!
HE TOUCHED ME VIA THE INTERNET;
AND NO ONE EVEN CARES...
HOW COME NO ONE CARES ABOUT MY PROBLEMS!
EXERYONE IS SO WILLING TO OFFER SOLUTIONS TO RAMS PROBLEMS, BUT WILL THEY HELP POOR OL ESKIMO... NO!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
eskimo
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Creamo touched me too! Class action lawsuit against HTC and Creamo!!!
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Just a thought RAM
Didn't you see a kill message?
You know "You Have Been Killed By _________"
Like I said just a thought (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I Hate It When That Happens!
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Ram in another online game that will remain nameless, this happens quite often. And it's simply a case of bad bytes in the downpipe.
You can be seeing one thing while someone else is seeing something completely different. It does happen. In this other game for instance..if you start a spiral climb and look 6..you see a bogey and his wings his nose is pointed anywhere from the 60 to 90 degree range when you start hearing pings.
Or..many times I encountered someone who would appear to be a ghost..non-manuevering..I'd damage him..put a whole ammo clip in him and he'd still be flying..flames..smoke you name it. Only to have received hits from him myself. Eventually he went down. At no time did he appear to me that he moved, warped or anything.
Players like this usually loose connection just after..or remain a ghost. Sometimes just entering the arena..even though my connect shows good, I can read chat but see no planes..etc.
Unfortunately these things do happen, and they happen often enough that thinking it's a cheat is a bad response..imo.
Wingnut
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That might well been connection problem...
Where you see plane usully further behind you than he really is..
But.. let me tell my experience from H2H:
I played H2H with one who also lives in finland, so ping wasn't too big and we wen't into C.202 duels.
It was horrible scissoring and sometimes we were shooting each others at the same time.
or trying to get the aim fixated, when we both were behind each others (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Lag makes funny thing when it comes to very very close combat... but that surely wasn't 200 yards (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
though, with very small ping.
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someone plez shoot me or < this topic>
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By Ram
You can't damage a ghost, mino.
Yes you can! You can shoot it all to hell and it will pop some where else showing no worse for wear.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"Hind tit suckin whiners. Begone with yah!"
Hangtime
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This whole touching thing is making me uncomfortable.
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Did he touch you too easymo?
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This game has gone to toejam for me dues to lag and cheaters...thats all I gotta say.
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I got ripped off yesterday at Hooters. 20 bucks for 2 pitchers of beer!
ps - I heard someone in another booth got theirs for $7.
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Dude two pitchers at the Hooters in Champaign set me back $22! How can they charge uneven pricing? I'm boycotting Hooters! Them theivin' bimbos!
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Hooters is soo tame.
Anyone been to Restaurant Sofia in Warzaw?
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
[This message has been edited by Maniac (edited 11-07-2000).]
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RAM;
I think I know what you problem is.
Creamo touched you, over the inter-net.
Believe me, this kind of abuse can leave one scarred and bitter for life.
Obviously your irrational rants are the results of sexual abuse.
Funked, easymo and I feel your pain.
Join us at CSAUOTINA (Creamo Sexualy Abused Us Over The Inter-Net Anonymous) and repeat after me:
"I am a good person."
"People LIKE me."
"I am worthy."
"Creamo won't touch me anymore."
"I am above lashing out my anger against others."
"I am a good person."
"People LIKE me."
"I am worthy."
"Creamo won't touch me anymore."
"I am above lashing out my anger against others."
"I am a good person."
"People LIKE me."
"I am worthy."
"Creamo won't touch me anymore."
"I am above lashing out my anger against others."
Now, don't you feel better?
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eskimo
[This message has been edited by eskimo (edited 11-07-2000).]
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Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.
-math
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"Any American fighter near Orote Penninsula. I have forty Jap planes surrounded and need a little help."
-Ens. W.B. "Spider" Webb during the Marians Turkey Shoot
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RAM,
about 5 yrs ago back in original AW on aol...I took off one day in a 190 after climbing to bout 8k I noticed a vader (A26) zommed in and hammered him...no evasives...little later a couple of 38's...zoomed in and hammered them...no evasives...this went on for 2-3 more bounces...till the text buffer was screaming.
Now at this point I was a "semi-dweeb" so I continued for a few more bounces till I hit 15 or so...at this point more than a few of the old hands were going coronary. While I was cruising along assessing the various feedback (mostly REAL bad (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))...I got toasted same way. Aparently my "plane" was seperated from my "FE" and not even in same sector. I was flying one place and my "plane" was elsewhere. I'm not sure who I spoke to in technical support but apparently it does happen occasionally, and I've seen it once or twice a yr in AW. You just got on the wrong side of the internet gods buddy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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Hehe, sorry but I didn't have time to read everyone's reply to RAM, but I LOL'd when I read Creamo's reply. I was thinking the same thing. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Shoot the red planes, RAM. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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RAM, I work with UBIF and we had a discussion this morning on your accusations. He thought you must of crashed into him, after you pinged him it was all he could do to keep the plane flying, he never fired a shot at you.
UBIF enjoys the game (it is a game) and would not taint it trying to cheat.
I think you should of talked with him about the situation on a private channel instead of blowing up on channel #1.
Hanibl
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TJ tell him not to even worry about responding, it's not worth his effort.
If you guys are ever around central texas give us a holler, anyone that can piss RAM off that bad I owe a couple of beers just for the laughs.
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Originally posted by Pyro:
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Ever hear of Occam's razor?
Hehe, good old Occam. For me he's razor works always. 100% of time. For example, few weeks ago I was abducted by the UFO. It looked like it were aliens from Betelgeize, but that was so unrealistic, that I used Occam's razor and what do you think? It were marsians.
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HAHA LMAOF that one was nice fariz heheheehehhehehehehe been there done that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
forgot it done it agian hahahahahaha.
airguard