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Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Mano on January 29, 2004, 11:28:59 AM
How many of you would like to see a WWI arena?

Can you imagine an AH arena with 400 to 500 pilots flying the old wood and canvas crates traveling at 100 mph?

I can.:)
Title: Re: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: WldThing on January 29, 2004, 11:43:22 AM
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Originally posted by Mano
Can you imagine an AH arena with 400 to 500 pilots flying the old wood and canvas crates traveling at 100 mph?

I can.:)


How far apart would the fields be with 100 MPH planes??
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: SELECTOR on January 29, 2004, 11:46:07 AM
ah is na ww2 game .. ww1 is not what i want..
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: mars01 on January 29, 2004, 12:30:46 PM
There wasn't a lot if any bobming in WWI so all that would leave is dog fighting, therefore most in this game now wouldn't like it.

I on the otherhand would dig it.  Red Baron was a fun game would be cool online.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Furball on January 29, 2004, 12:40:47 PM
YES!
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Blooz on January 29, 2004, 01:32:38 PM
I vote yes.   Let me get it started.





Perk the SPAD XIII !!
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: United on January 29, 2004, 01:38:39 PM
I think it would be pretty cool to see a WWI arena, as long as AH is still up!
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: dedalos on January 29, 2004, 01:51:43 PM
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Originally posted by Blooz
I vote yes.   Let me get it started.





Perk the SPAD XIII !!


Shut up you three wing dweeb :D Why don't fly a real two wing plane?
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: United on January 29, 2004, 01:57:47 PM
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Originally posted by dedalos
Shut up you three wing dweeb :D Why don't fly a real two wing plane?

Lol, 3 wing dweeb... :lol

Already the name calling begins!  Wonder what they'll do with Fokker....:rolleyes:
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: mos on January 29, 2004, 02:47:32 PM
Only if I get to toss out grappling hooks and carry a 6-shooter.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: dedalos on January 29, 2004, 02:52:21 PM
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Originally posted by United
Lol, 3 wing dweeb... :lol

Already the name calling begins!  Wonder what they'll do with Fokker....:rolleyes:


That would be the 'Run Fokker alt monky dweeb'

Chan1: Run you Fokker Run


:D
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Zanth on January 29, 2004, 02:52:21 PM
The Zepplins in the old Warbirds WW! game were fun sometimes.  Were especially cool to see burn and crash.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: T1loady on January 29, 2004, 03:02:30 PM
No
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 29, 2004, 03:07:54 PM
Yes. been thinking that a while now.
not as a steady diet but it would make for a really cool change of pace now and again
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: mrblack on January 29, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
Yeah everone will be screaming freekin camel dweebs
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Shane on January 29, 2004, 03:32:45 PM
uhhh....

not I.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: gofaster on January 29, 2004, 03:36:25 PM
Flight lieutenant G.O. Faster, reporting for duty, sah!  We'll give von Hindenberg a bit of the what-for, eh!
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: palef on January 29, 2004, 03:47:45 PM
Count me in

PERK THE FOKKER D.VIII

palef
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: polka on January 29, 2004, 09:30:12 PM
I would love it. I always enjoyed Dawn of Aces (a Hitech creation).
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Karnak on January 29, 2004, 10:15:03 PM
No, HTC is right to focus only on WWII.  There is way too much left to do in WWII.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: dxdxdx on January 29, 2004, 10:36:11 PM
Nothing as much fun as a tight turn knife fight at 50 foot alt., in a wood and fabric burner with two machine guns.  Bombing from a Zeppelin is fun too...WWI planes turn faster...so the fights are more intense and have more action.

dxdxdx
CO - The Pigstompers
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Squire on January 29, 2004, 10:45:59 PM
WW1 would make a fantastic sim, much more interesting and challenging than the pile of crappy jet sims that we have endured. "F-22 Raptor" pfft.

Of course you cant HO with cannons, so that might not sit well with some.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Mugzeee on January 29, 2004, 10:49:57 PM
YES!!
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: T1loady on January 29, 2004, 11:03:03 PM
a....  no still!!!

SkipNutz
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Roscoroo on January 29, 2004, 11:06:14 PM
I used to luv playing Doa ......... but latly Wings of honor has taken its place  (its arcadish FM but better then Doa 3 )
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: bizket on January 29, 2004, 11:26:44 PM
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Originally posted by dxdxdx
Nothing as much fun as a tight turn knife fight at 50 foot alt., in a wood and fabric burner with two machine guns.  Bombing from a Zeppelin is fun too...WWI planes turn faster...so the fights are more intense and have more action.

dxdxdx
CO - The Pigstompers


dx wow!!! Hows it going bud??:)
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Yeager on January 30, 2004, 12:02:11 AM
HiTech when asked about this online a few years ago, and I quote:

"Been there, done that"

I remember thinking to myself "as if AH isnt a "been there done that".  Anyway, find below a link that will provide some hope for the fabric wing crowd.

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http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_069a.html
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: bigsky on January 30, 2004, 12:54:50 AM
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Originally posted by polka
I would love it. I always enjoyed Dawn of Aces (a Hitech creation).

yes, i still like to fly DOA offline, since there is no more online, once in a while. but if i remember corectly hitech said he wont do another WW1 flight sim. bribe him with a real fokker maybe he would change his mind for that.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: MOSQ on January 30, 2004, 01:00:37 AM
Air Warrior had a WWI arena. It was empty.

It won't help pay the freight.

I vote no.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Halo on January 30, 2004, 08:49:48 AM
Red Baron off line and Dawn of Aces on line were fun, including the dirigibles and field artillery in the latter.  

But the WWI crates would come apart pretty easily from manuevers as well as bullets, and at best most things seemed to be a more feeble and slow motion version of WWII.  Which is the way it really was, right?  

So, no, I'd rather Aces High stick with refining the ultimate prop and gun vehicles of WWII.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: mars01 on January 30, 2004, 08:56:44 AM
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But the WWI crates would come apart pretty easily from manuevers as well as bullets, and at best most things seemed to be a more feeble and slow motion version of WWII. Which is the way it really was, right?


Thats what would make it fun, it was a different kind of combat since the planes were slower and lighter.  The throttle controls are diff (on or off no inbetween) like fighting two kites more rudder work etc.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Ghosth on January 30, 2004, 09:11:53 AM
Mano,

Its been done, and actually done well a couple of times.  Flying Circus was the first big one to do it. They had a good player group till they went pay for play. Took a year but then there was no flying circus.

DOA was next. Its still over there if you don't mind brand W.

As to doing a competitive product over here there is the problem of who you'll get to do the job?

HTC is a VERY small company that just barely manages to keep up with all that AH needs. You'd have to put a new group together from scratch, pay em for 1 to 2 years while they worked on it. Before you could even think about getting any income back in. Much less break even.

Sorry but I'd very much doubt we'll see a AH in WWI.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: mars01 on January 30, 2004, 09:23:31 AM
Hey Ghost,

Why couldn't they use the same flight model with a new plane set the physics don't change just the plane characteristics.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Mano on January 30, 2004, 10:08:54 PM
I appreciate all of your constructive comments yes or no. It is very impressive what Hi Tech Creations has accomplished with Aces High in such a short time. I don't think they look at it as a job, but something they really enjoy doing.

A WWI arena could use the same game engine and as far as the terrain, let the players build it. Moving the fields closer together is not difficult. It would only take 4 planes to get it started, and from time to time, add a couple more a/c. In the early days of Warbirds, when they were still in Texas, there were not that many planes. They added additional planes or variations of the same plane over a period of time. Many planes shared the same artwork. I started flying Warbirds during version 1.3 and flew the online version of Red Baron before that. :)

C ya up there, Mano :aok
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Ghosth on January 31, 2004, 09:23:54 AM
In theory mars its perhaps possible.

I suspect the real reason is HT has no interest in that area.  But thats just my opinion.

Same reason he won't do a Korea era sim.

Even with player contributions, such as terrain, plane skins, etc. I still think it would stretch HTC to the edge.

Those 7 people have worked VERY hard the last 1.5 years to keep AH1 running & get AH2 close. I suspect it will take another year after its released to get all the planes in, add some new ones, troubleshoot etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see HT come in & say his next project after AH2 is going to be a WWI sim.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Yeager on January 31, 2004, 12:48:31 PM
HTC could so easily have done just a few crates and stick em in a arena, hell.  No problem.

The fact that HT just doesnt have any desire for it, or apparently anything outside of a WW2 timeframe, and the fact that since AW came over, AH seems to have just plain stopped moving forward just soured me over a very long time.  I loved the game.  

I know AH2 is in the works but its been such a long time since the AH1 has made made any progress.  I really hope AH2 makes the stagnation of a really great thing worth the wait and disappointment.  See what thinking about a few WW1 crates has done to me ;)

Ok, back to your usual stuff
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: TBolt A-10 on January 31, 2004, 12:55:20 PM
IMHO, the WW1 arena in Air Warrior got old pretty quick.  Each sortie was just like the last...



Now, if HTC could find some way to REALLY improve the gameplay, I'd check out the arena.

TBolt
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Hap on January 31, 2004, 01:02:32 PM
no
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Fariz on January 31, 2004, 01:43:01 PM
Nope. Not wise. More planes, more arenas, more work for same team, means twice less content for both ww2 and ww1. At the moment HTC still work on something they announced 1.5 years ago, and it is not even close to completion.

ww1 also has much smaller user base to be marketingly justified.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: nopoop on January 31, 2004, 01:58:46 PM
No
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: WhiteHawk on January 31, 2004, 04:16:07 PM
yea..i think HTC is dedicated to ww2 stuff.
Title: Re: Re: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: SirLoin on January 31, 2004, 05:39:58 PM
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Originally posted by WldThing
How far apart would the fields be with 100 MPH planes??


Ask Lazs.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: DYGCaps on January 31, 2004, 06:29:57 PM
WW1 would be awesome, I used to love going into the WW1 arena in AW when they had it, was a nice break and a ton of fun.  I would vote yes, but it would be in vein as this will never happen.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: jpeg on January 31, 2004, 09:24:39 PM
abs. not!

HTC is a small company and they need to focus on the game we currently love.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: tshred on February 01, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
Yes, Mano. I miss the old DoA days. Calling in arty, watching Zeps flaming down to the ground. Online career started in DoA, WWI crates are sure fun to fly.

Hiya Dx, when did you go to the 'dark side'-Pigly Wigly Stompers? :)

Long live the 94th APS 'Hat in Ring'!!!

ts
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Boat on February 01, 2004, 05:27:12 PM
As an old "Red Baron" pilot, I'd love it.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: LWACE on February 01, 2004, 08:28:53 PM
Id rather see (assuming HT did a new war at all) a Korea arena more, with Mig 15s F-86s all that good stuff.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 02, 2004, 01:55:36 AM
I'd only agree to it if they had P-38s.



ack-ack
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: JB66 on February 02, 2004, 10:43:07 AM
I vote No.  

It didn't work in aw, awII, or awIII.  Very seldom were there more than a couple of people flying it, and it turns out they are the diehards.  And WWII tactics don't work very well. (At least mine)
So after getting cherry picked a few time, it is time to log off, and return to something more fun.
Stall fighting in Ah can be alot of fun, but having to do it all the time would really take the fun element out of the game.
Just my opinion.
Title: Poll for a WWI Arena
Post by: Mano on February 07, 2004, 12:30:36 PM
Any more comments out there?  :D