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Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: WilldCrd on February 01, 2004, 08:20:51 AM
We gots LOTS of fighters and PERK fighters and i know several where introduced as "late" war aircraft. But, we only have 1 perk bomber {234} how bout introducing a new bomber like the B29? make it a perk plane as well if need be...just a thought:cool:
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: frank3 on February 01, 2004, 09:26:10 AM
So..just because we want to perk something we have to have a new bomber? :lol  
Lol, but I think the B-29 is abit...well...out of ww2? Maybe some others like B-24 or Catalina might be appreciated.

(and not much perking in the h2h :rolleyes: )
Title: Re: Perk Bombers
Post by: Montezuma on February 01, 2004, 01:24:56 PM
A-26B is perk worthy, and would be more fun than the B-29.
Title: Re: Re: Perk Bombers
Post by: Tilt on February 01, 2004, 08:03:44 PM
Perk bombers

A26 (attack?)

Mossie MkXVI

MkIII Lanc with Tallboy Modification.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Halo on February 03, 2004, 05:32:28 PM
It is surprising after this long that Aces High has the top WWII fighters including the Me262 but not the two best bombers, the B-29 and A-26.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Karnak on February 03, 2004, 08:27:15 PM
Halo,

I know you meant B-29B and Mosquito B.Mk XVI.  You just had a brain hiccup and typed in "A-26" in place of the Mossie.:D
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: empty on February 03, 2004, 08:48:00 PM
B-29 out of WW2?  Weren't they used to bomb Japan?

If I recall, one of the development considerations for the Ta152 was the B-29.  Development was delayed because the OKW believed the US would finish Japan before Europe.

May not be accurate, sure believe I read this from a couple of sources.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: mitchk on February 05, 2004, 01:43:55 PM
How about insted of new planes new ordnance.

1.diferent types of bombs AP HE or incindeary.

2.biggggg! bombs for our lancaster like tallboy or the
  GRAND SLAM EARTHQUACK BOMB

we could make nonperk bomber into perk rides when special
bombs are selected.

If we get B-29 great but NO A-BOMBS. "dweebs"
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Rafe35 on February 05, 2004, 07:53:45 PM
If we get B-29 "Super Fortress" bomber in Ah2, Im pretty sure it would be perk bomber in MA and as well in CT too.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: dedalos on February 06, 2004, 02:18:14 PM
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Originally posted by mitchk
How about insted of new planes new ordnance.

If we get B-29 great but NO A-BOMBS. "dweebs"


Now that is interesting.  How about A-Bombs.  Lets say 5000 or 10000 perks.  Now if you see a single bomber comming into an air field, the thought of it having one on board should cause some panic :D





Just kidding
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Shiva on February 07, 2004, 09:42:41 PM
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Originally posted by dedalos
Now that is interesting.  How about A-Bombs.  Lets say 5000 or 10000 perks.  Now if you see a single bomber comming into an air field, the thought of it having one on board should cause some panic :D


No, you'd still have a formation of three planes -- the lead plane carrying the Bomb and the other two planes with cameras to record the effects of the drop...  ;)
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Halo on February 08, 2004, 09:11:56 PM
The photo aircraft were not in formation with either A-bomb B-29, were they?  Thought none were close to the Enola Gay or Bock's Car.  

Atomic bomb would be an imposing addition and a first for WWII simulations.  As in WWII, could limit to two A-bombs rotating through only ONE side as each new arena is opened.

All sides would know which side had the A-bomb capability.  A-bombs would cost enormous perks so only the top few point getters could use them.  

Would be an interesting novelty for awhile.  At first most players would make stopping B-29s a priority, while others would want to let them through just to watch the blast.  After all, only one base would be lost unless a capital was scored to capitulate.  

HOWEVER, since Aces High doesn't even allow Nazi swastikas, don't ever bet your perk points on seeing an atomic bomb in any WWII simulation.  Some subjects are just too volatile and politically incorrect, no matter how historically accurate they might be.  

The ultimate question is whether promoting any game mindset about playing with nuclear weapons is a smart or good thing to do.  Consensus seems to be no, don't do it.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Halo on February 08, 2004, 09:43:50 PM
Karnak, thanks for correcting my temporary lapse -- I agree the Mossie was the second best bomber of WWII over the A-26.  The B-29 was clearly superior to all other bombers, but from then on it's tough to rank the rest.  

Since Aces High already has a Mosquito, I concentrated on the best remaining of what it doesn't have and what probably would be perked if it did have, i.e., the B-29 and the A-26.  

The B-24 and several others are obvious additional needs although they wouldn't be perked.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: hawker238 on February 09, 2004, 06:46:18 PM
Wow, didn't even realize those weren't nazi swastikas!
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Pooh21 on February 10, 2004, 05:47:49 AM
Starship Troopers had nukes. Nukes are fun. Though nukes would be stupid in AH. B29s would be stupider. Having 1/2 a bajillion 50 cal from 3 different planes shooting at one spot would be no fun.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: mitchk on February 10, 2004, 09:39:03 AM
Halo Check out 109g-2 and g-6 they have swasticas.


P.S. but we still arn't getting nukes!
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Halo on February 10, 2004, 11:29:22 AM
mitchk, look again -- the Bf 109G-2 has Finnish blue swastikas.  No aircraft has the Nazi black swastika.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: artik on February 14, 2004, 05:28:19 AM
A Bomb
Actually it would be fun to have an A-Bomb,

Best way to destroy HQ,
Best solution for one field/city destroy.
Me-163 will have a lot of job to kill B-29 with A Bomb

The question is how to limit A-Bomb usage.
Perks - it is not hard enough to get perks.
Spesially when there will be A bomb a lot of players will build them for it.

But we can limit it to 1 rear base. With amount of 1 bomb per hour or per day etc. The request will be done as a sort of billing using perks - who gives most gets A-Bomb - and of course if he dies - loose all of them.

It would be also very fun for SEA to have one.

Perked bombers
Perk following bombers:
B-17 and Lancaster - it would force players to fly someone else accept this two. and prevent divebombing lancasters on fleets.

Why? According to the timing they should be at non-perked but their weapons are just unrealistic - there were no gunners able to make a damage or even hit a plane from dist more then 300-500 yards - and you can kill with B-17 from 1200-1500 yards

So perk them
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Pooh21 on February 14, 2004, 02:05:39 PM
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Originally posted by artik
A Bomb



Me-163 will have a lot of job to kill B-29 with A Bomb
 



Why? fly straight up and tickle his tummy with 30mm just like every other bomber
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: APDrone on February 14, 2004, 02:14:04 PM
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88067&highlight=APDrone
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Dowding on February 16, 2004, 07:54:17 AM
I think we should have more terror bombers like the Halifax etc, and for Pooh21 (since he won't fly non-PC bombers like the Lanc), we should have a jolly, innocent He-177 (which like the Ju-88, never dropped bombs on civilians). Then everyone is happy.
Title: Perk Bombers
Post by: Sway on February 16, 2004, 08:33:02 AM
As long as dweebs still fly them at 2,000ft, I'll be happy. ;)