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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sway on February 02, 2004, 09:02:21 AM
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I am going to start learning a secondary plane, in addition to the p38. I am going to start flying the yak models, 9T/9U.
If you guys have any tips that'll help me learn this animal, post em here, because I know absolutely nothing about them, besides the fact I can't shoot for crap with the guns. :D
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it's the spit that spit-snobs use.
:)
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Originally posted by Sway
I am going to start learning a secondary plane, in addition to the p38. I am going to start flying the yak models, 9T/9U.
If you guys have any tips that'll help me learn this animal, post em here, because I know absolutely nothing about them, besides the fact I can't shoot for crap with the guns. :D
Its a fast Spit with low ammo. Very good in a knife fight. It will out turn anything it cannot out run.
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Looks like I picked the right plane then Shane... ;)
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Originally posted by dedalos
It will out turn anything it cannot out run.
LA5 may have something to say about that.
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Originally posted by Nomak
LA5 may have something to say about that.
OK, I am going to highjack this. Does the 5 turn better than the 7? It looks like it to me but I always thought it was because of the way I was using the 5.
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IMO the 5 is a much better turn/stall fighter than the 7.
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Originally posted by Nomak
IMO the 5 is a much better turn/stall fighter than the 7.
I second that emotion :)
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Anything different between Yak 9U/9T besides the guns?
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Speed, while the 9U has no wep, frankly it doesn't need it.
The 9T has that big beast of a cannon, slows it considerably, but has wep.
I like em both & there is not a lot of difference between them except in armament.
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Thanks... all this info helps me cut down on all the deaths of learning another ride. :D
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ive turned inside many yaks with a 38, and i havent been able to outrun most yaks. mabye i didnt fight a good yak pilot, not sure.
~S~
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Yeah, noticed I can outturn many yaks with the 38. Im not flyin yak all that much though.. maybe 1 of 10 sorties, the other 9 are still 38. ;)
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Fly an F6F :D
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only skilless noobs fly F6Fs. :lol
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j/k wadke :D
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F6f is not bad, just doesn't have the speed Im looking for.
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well if other can hi-jack.....
Laz, Killnu you guys got a film or two I could have on the 38? I've been flying it 85% of the time over the last couple of months, and tho I'm getting better... I think :) I can still use all the help I can get !
Mostly I'm looking for merge angles you guys use to get on high guys. While I can avoid hits, I think it takes me too long to equallize the "E" state, and in the MA that means I get jumped to often by his friends :)
Here, you are talking of out turning Yaks, and that would be a nice film to see too. I may be getting too slow to make the tight turns I need to win knife fights.
I guess ANY films ya might want to post some place would be great :)
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Sure, I have to whip up a few films in h2h throughout the next few days, should have some nice ones for you by the end of the week.
Biggest thing to remember when turning the 38 is use flaps, and stall fight. I was accused of being a dweeb by a guy in h2h though, because I used my flaps to outturn his spit5. So be careful who you use those flaps around. ;)
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Thanks Laz, I'll be looking forward to the films. I do use the flaps, love going up in a rope and just drop them things down one at a time till its time to roll over and fire those cannons thru that "roped dope" :)
Thru all the reading I've done on the boards on the 38, one of the things a few complain about is the auto-retracting flaps. I don't think mine have ever retracted, so either I'm pulling them back up too fast/soon, or I'm just too slow.... another thing I'd like to check out on a film.... your flap usage.
I guess the more I think about it the longer the list will get :D
Thanks for any help ya can send my way!
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bump... just incase Laz or Sway or even killnu needs to find it :)
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Originally posted by Sway
F6f is not bad, just doesn't have the speed Im looking for.
I fly the F6f alot, one thing I noticed that many do not realise is its E retention and acceleration. Ironically, I first realised how well it retained its E while trying to land it for the first time. I approached the field as I always do, threw some opposite rudder, dropped a notch of flaps and waited....and waited......and waited. The F6 just held on to it's E. This prompted me to do some more in-flight testing. Simply put, the F6f holds E like it stole it. It reminded me alot of the AW Spitfire. It may not have great long-term speed, but it accelerates very well, due to it's large mass and holds E like you wouldn't believe. SO, in a sprint the F6f can often outrun much faster planes long enough for them to lose interest.
Zazen
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The yak9T, it's super sweet to see that monster shot connect. :D
also might want to blow the mgs out shortly after take off and turn off tracers just to get the feel of it.
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Originally posted by killnu
ive turned inside many yaks with a 38, and i havent been able to outrun most yaks. mabye i didnt fight a good yak pilot, not sure.
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As Ghosth will confirm, it's a mistake for a Yak driver to get into a low-speed fight with a well managed P-38. On the other hand, if the 9U driver stays fast and avoids getting sucked into a stall fight and waits for the P-38 to burn off his WEP, the 9U has a noticable edge. Yaks have very poor low-speed handling, whereas the P-38 is rock solid. I haven't tangled with the 9T in a P-38, but its lack of speed and power reserve leads me to believe it will not fare well against the Lightning given equal E at the outset. Your results may vary.
My regards,
Widewing