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Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 07:36:00 AM
Please take a moment to check out some pics from 10Bears terrain of Luzon, he put in over 200 hours on this.  These pics do not  serve justice to the terrain in whole, as  he has the following in the terrain:
~ added rice paddies
~ coral reefs
~ texture to the water
~Bridges!
~navigable rivers!!
~harbours
~ONLY 2.2 megs!
~Tank depots
~Industrial areas
~GREAT on Frame Rate
~battles are relatively close to one another
~its PACIFIC!
 To access the terrain () you can click on the VMF-323 link below, there you will find the download for this beautiful terrain...I personally am still in shock how realistic the jungles look...it is unbelieveable!

I vote for this in SEA next month,  lets DO THE PACIFIC!!!
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Detailed relief map of the island(I am slightly zoomed in)
           (http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ahss4.jpg)        

 
On Patrol
           (http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ahss6.jpg)        

Bad Moon Rising!
           (http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ahss5.jpg)        

CLICK HERE for terrain download (http://home.earthlink.net/~bkapache/Screens.htm)



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Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 08:14:00 AM
PUNT: I'm just estactic over this terrain, you simply must check it out!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: gatt on September 29, 2000, 08:17:00 AM
OUCH!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 08:20:00 AM
OUCH???
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: gatt on September 29, 2000, 08:39:00 AM
YES: GASP! 'Outstanding work!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Naso on September 29, 2000, 08:56:00 AM
WOW  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) !!!!

Wonderful !!!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

When this become an "SEA Luzon" ?


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L'è Buna!!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Baddawg on September 29, 2000, 09:08:00 AM
I downloaded  Luzon  but it seems to be missing files  for it to work ?
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: bojc on September 29, 2000, 09:12:00 AM
Oh My God I've been waiting for this for 5 years. can't wait to download it and fly.

Salute 10bears and HTC.
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 09:15:00 AM
Baddawg, I upzipped all the files (within the zipped file) into TERRAIN folder...works for me.  
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Mitsu on September 29, 2000, 09:34:00 AM
Wow! This terrain is unbelievable!!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I found river, bridge and beer just now!!!

  (http://www.ah.wakwak.com/~mitsu/files_icon/eek3.gif)  

Way to go 10Bears!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

-Mitsu

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Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Hamish on September 29, 2000, 09:34:00 AM
<wipes drool from chin>

man... can't wait to fly an F6F off a carrier in there!

<S!> 10Bears, GREAT work!

Hamish!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Westy on September 29, 2000, 09:35:00 AM
WOW!!!!  I'm at a loss for words. Stunned actually.  This is beautiful!  What a fantastic tool the community has in this terrain builder. And what a great bunch of folks who can create them!

 -Westy

(First Verm's MED terrain and now this one. It's REALLY getting better every day here)
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 09:37:00 AM
I've only represented about 10% of his fantastic artwork in these screen shots, wait till you see the coral reefs, water textures and industrial centers...these "CORE" fellows from the Terrain team (Raxx, AKWabbit, Verm, 10bears, many more) deserve a BIG round of applause, they are forming the future within Aces high!  I'm just beside myself this morning, for Aces High is going to be a long, and pleasant journey, my friends!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: mason22 on September 29, 2000, 09:46:00 AM
kick ars!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: CptTrips on September 29, 2000, 09:52:00 AM
Now THAT is nice.

This stuff is just too cool.

Those other guys are still paying how much per hour?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Regards,
Wab


Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Pyro on September 29, 2000, 10:06:00 AM
Looks great.  It's up to 10bears if he wants to make it available for scenario play.  

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HiTech Creations
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: CptTrips on September 29, 2000, 10:07:00 AM
One thing tho guys.

You don't need those htx files in the zip.

Everything is in the res.


Wab
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: StSanta on September 29, 2000, 10:09:00 AM
Ok, waht do i do to try it out?

Run it from terrain editor?

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JG54 "Grünherz"
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 10:12:00 AM
StSanta, go offline, select SET-UP, then TERRAIN, choose LUZON from the choices (after you've unzipped it into the TERRAIN folder of Aces High).
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Rojo on September 29, 2000, 10:17:00 AM
Man!  I feel a case of malaria coming on just looking at those jungles.  This really is outstanding work. Salute!

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(S-2, The Buccaneers)
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Apache on September 29, 2000, 10:28:00 AM
Man! I thought 10bears Kosovo and 1st Philippines terrains were good. Sheesh!! Heck, I found myself just flying around looking at the landscape! Thought I fired up the wrong game for a minute (MSFS)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).

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Apache
=XO= VMF-323 Death Rattlers
VMF 323 Death Rattlers Web Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~bkapache)
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: funked on September 29, 2000, 10:31:00 AM
WOW!!!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Lance on September 29, 2000, 12:15:00 PM
Between the new hellcat & TBF screenshots and the terrains people are working on, I'm more excited than ever about AH.  Excellent work, 10bears.

And I agree, lets rotate the SEA arena between Med and Luzon terrains every few weeks.

Gordo
Fat DRUNK Bastards! (http://fdb.50megs.com)
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: bongo on September 29, 2000, 12:26:00 PM
AWSOME!!!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 12:28:00 PM
Suggested Planeset for  Luzon:
Japan:

A6M5B Zero
N1K2-J George
B26B (Betty Bomber-wannabe)
C47
All vehicles

Allied:
F4U-1D Corsair
P38L Lightening
All vehicles
C47
B26B Marauder

Could throw in a P47 and B17, spits, but this plane set above would be a nice balance.

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Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: NATEDOG on September 29, 2000, 01:00:00 PM
Where is the bridge?


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Art Director
HiTech Creations
-=HELLFIRE SQUAD=-

".... And on the eighth day, God created beer. "
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: maddog on September 29, 2000, 01:14:00 PM
Bueatiful.... I don't think even 11bears could have done better......

HT, need him on the payroll.....

doc
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Creamo on September 29, 2000, 01:16:00 PM
Thats pretty neat. Ground textures are really good.

I was having 10fps on the deck though that changed with diffrent views (look left, look back etc..). Seemed like that was the case with Verm's too. Any idea why? I always have 40+ in the MA.

Also, on the water that goes up the mountains, I saw Wabbit islands I think and there was none of the blocky coastline. Version diffrence?
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 01:17:00 PM
 
Quote
Originally posted by NATEDOG:
Where is the bridge?


Nate, 10bears said there's a "Double bridge" but I forget where it is..he's out of town for a few days so I guess we'll have to recon  the map...

Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: RDRedwing on September 29, 2000, 01:43:00 PM
 
Quote
Where is the bridge?
Takeoff at Angeles and head SE towards the city

He put 2 small airfields on the water tiles and deleted all objects except for the runways

looks nice  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)


Good job 10Bears
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Vladd on September 29, 2000, 01:58:00 PM
Thanks to anyone who had even the slightest involment in this, direct or indirect...

Truly superb!

10 bears <S>


Vladd
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: flakbait on September 29, 2000, 01:58:00 PM
Funny, on my low end machine I'm getting 27+ FPS just buzzing around.

BUGS:

1) Subic Bay airfield doesn't work right. The hangar button puts you on the north end of the runway, facing north. This gives you about 5 feet to takeoff or turn around. Hitting the north button kills you.

2) Show-off A/C at Angeles are killing my FR, as is the near-by city. BTW, that city fires on ANYONE!! Took off from Subic [after turning around] flew over it and was promptly shot down. Evidently it's a Rook or Knight city being defended by Bishops.

3) Large black border around the clipboard map. Could this be trimmed down?


I'll hunt around more and post any further bugs I find.


By the way... I GOT BLUE WATER FOR THE FIRST TIME!!!!!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) With the exception of the bugs, this thing kicks ass!


Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Mitsu on September 29, 2000, 01:59:00 PM
 
Quote
Originally posted by NATEDOG:
Where is the bridge?



This is bridge, isn't it?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

 (http://ya.sakura.ne.jp/~micchy/244sentai/shots/Luzon_bridge.jpg)

Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ripsnort on September 29, 2000, 02:27:00 PM
Keep the bug reports coming, when 10bears returns from out of town, I'm sure he'll appreciate it!
Get this puppy refined so its usable in large scale within the community..

Yes, all the Terrain folks get a big <S> for helping each other out!
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Creamo on September 29, 2000, 02:33:00 PM
It only crawled to 10fps in HTH, not offline. Maybe Im seeing things.

The aircraft on the ground are taxing on the fps which doesn't seem like it should. A 800mhz should handle little planes no?
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: flakbait on September 29, 2000, 03:05:00 PM
Another BUG:

1) Bumpy runway at Subic Bay and Angeles.

Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Replicant on September 29, 2000, 04:22:00 PM
Another bug - sorry if it's mentioned above and I've accidently skipped it.  If you select 'knights' and fly any of their fields then the Bomber Hangar and at one field a Vehicle Hangar become ack and start angling themselves and shooting at the drones.
 (http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/hangar-fury.jpg)

Keep up the excellent work, brilliant terrain!!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Regards

'Nexx'
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: 10Bears on September 29, 2000, 04:34:00 PM
Thx guys I'm really moved -sob-

Looks great. It's up to 10bears if he wants to make it available for scenario play.
Pyro

Whoa! thats not a feather in my cap thats a full on headdress! The answer is YES!

One thing tho guys.
You don't need those htx files in the zip.
Everything is in the res.

Wab
Oh... that explains why I was having a hard time transfering updates from the editor to the FE.. Glad I didn't know because I did the whole thing over again.. and it came out better.


Also, on the water that goes up the mountains, I saw Wabbit islands I think and there was none of the blocky coastline. Version diffrence?

River through the mountains was an afterthought.. I should've  drawn a small black line where the river should go in Wab's Bit2map program you wouldn't see water climbing the sides

<wipes drool from chin>
man... can't wait to fly an F6F off a carrier in there!
<S!> 10Bears, GREAT work!

Thought of that.. then spaced it out. I was going to add 2 runways in middle of ocean.. use a hanger for conning tower. Ahhhh better to just wait for carriers

BUGS:
1) Subic Bay airfield doesn't work right. The hangar button puts you on the north end of the runway, facing north. This gives you about 5 feet to takeoff or turn around. Hitting the north button kills you.

The version in my AHeditor, all the fields work.. this happened last time when I tried to transfer to main FE.. don't know whats up w/ that

2) Show-off A/C at Angeles are killing my FR, as is the near-by city.

I think this is because the AC on the field are not in the objects list.. Computer has to do extra work to drum up these images..

BTW, that city fires on ANYONE!! Took off from Subic [after turning around] flew over it and was promptly shot down. Evidently it's a Rook or Knight city being defended by Bishops.

Let me explain Manila.. Its divided into three districts seperated by two bridges Bish in the middle All industral ie: oil barr, ammo rdr etc are located within either Manila or Naga Pili areas
 
3) Large black border around the clipboard map. Could this be trimmed down?

Ahh C'mon thats part of the art  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I'll hunt around more and post any further bugs I find.
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: cactus on September 30, 2000, 06:26:00 PM
10Bears, great work on the Luzon  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
mebbe your idea of runway/hangar on water=CVA would
answer another threads (rockets?) request for carrier training field.
something to practice on till 1.05  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Looking forward to first combat-sortie in Luzon !!!

    cactus

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Lose sight-
lose Fight.
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Brazos on September 30, 2000, 07:32:00 PM
Well done 10bears!

You and Verm have much to be proud of. Oh great sim gods, release thy bounty of carriers, so that thy servents might trappeth aboard and know thy goodness!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Cya up...Braz
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Crankshaft on September 30, 2000, 10:38:00 PM
 I want to about the beer bottle I found!
Had to be 100 ft tall. Shiner Beer! <G>
Not sure how to post a screen here, but I have one for documentation. 10Bear I salute
you and your beautifull creation! I had 3 Bishops chasing me through the clouds somewhere east of Haga. When I finaly got the chance to extend and slip away, I was shaking,with my heart pounding! Thank you!

"Keep the glass part up!"
Cranky
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Snoopi on October 01, 2000, 04:28:00 AM
RIPSNORT:
Please see my post in regards to the terrain update for Luzon.

10Bears is going away for a few days and....

While in a H2H session he asked me to post the new version with some bug fixes.

He emailed me the latest version and my other post has a link to it.

All Users please delete the old versions and use this one instead.

SEE MY OTHER POST FOR THE LINK    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Many bugs listed in this post are fixed.
Of course post any more you may find.


Regards,
Snoopi




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Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Snoopi on October 01, 2000, 01:17:00 PM
bump  
bump
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: fabrika6 on October 02, 2000, 03:35:00 PM
Wonderful!!!
It must be SEA !
Title: LUZON: A Pacific experience by 10Bears(Warning:Pics)
Post by: Ghosth on October 02, 2000, 07:42:00 PM
I suppose it would be too much to ask to have this for SEA 1 while Afrika Korp is going on in Verm's Med terrain huh.

Well a guy can dream can't he?

Very big hats off to 10bears. <S>


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