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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: miko2d on February 04, 2004, 12:03:55 PM
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All I can think of is arming a child (above certain age) with a deadly weapon to have on her at all times and teaching her to pretend cooperation with an abductor and then kill him.
I will probably do that once my kids are old enough to be let out of adult's sight.
Having a trackable chip implanted may be a good solution by that time but one does not exclude the other.
miko
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Training is the answer. Normally, if you can get a kid to realize the danger, and when to be vigilant, you are doing pretty good. I wouldn't arm my kids with lethal weapons, but we definately train them what to do in specific situations...
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The Brucia child didn't resist. No screams, no struggles. I don't think arming her would've made much difference.
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Miko = Avi from Cryptonomicon? :)
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If you have girls, make sure you issue them the "dentata" from Snow Crash. :)
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Of course a child should know how to protect and defend oneself.
Also, once a peson has been identified as a child predator they should be incarcerated for life or put to death if the threat rises to an occurance of child murder.
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One more thing, it occurs to me that in abduction/murders of children by strangers, the kids are usually killed fairly quickly. I don't recommend pretending to go along. The kicking, biting, screaming and escape attempts should begin immediately...
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give them tazers.
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I just feel sorry for the guy/girl, that trys to abduct me..
Heck I'd be going along with them one min, and the next they'd have a fight on their hands.
I've thought out my plans, and realized if I was being kidnapped at gunpoint in a public place, I'm gonna yell like hell, and fight.
And in a car jacking, I'm gonna throw the keys out the window...
But see, if woman throw there keys out the window nowadays, I feel sorry for the thing that gets hit with them...:lol
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My daughter has a password. You don't know it, she will kick, scream, yell, and fight.
My late grandfather in law told me an interesting story once when we were hunting.
"Hey Ben, why don't we hunt in that slew?" To which Ben replied,"Way back in the 20's we had a child molester in town. A few of us convinced him to leave town. Since then, we don't hunt in that slew." Nuff said I figured.
He may have been pulling my leg, but we didn't hunt there.
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give them tazers.
Tazers are impractical and not disabling. A poison-tipped toothpick and/or vial is what I had in mind.
miko
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Originally posted by miko2d
give them tazers.
Tazers are impractical and not disabling. A poison-tipped toothpick and/or vial is what I had in mind.
miko
... which could be used in a schoolyard brawl or against a teacher. There's a reason they don't allow weapons on campus.
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Nothing you can really do about it.
Except execution for those that abduct children. That'd be a hellofa reason not to.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
If you have girls, make sure you issue them the "dentata" from Snow Crash. :)
Funny, yet oh so sick funked. Nothing like walking in on your daughter trapped under her boyfriend who's suddenly lost consciousness.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
And in a car jacking, I'm gonna throw the keys out the window...
But see, if woman throw there keys out the window nowadays, I feel sorry for the thing that gets hit with them...:lol
I gotta remote starter, soon as they get 50 metres away I'd kill the engine.
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I don't know about giving weapons to kids ... in any way shape or form. Granted that it's possible to train kids, someone would have to decide whether a kid is capable of making a sensible decision of when and how to use that weapon.
As for punishment for child abduction: whip 'em to death.
If any abuse occured while the child was abducted: death in the most painful, torterous, and inhumane way possible.
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I've come to believe that there's a reasonably safe way to enhance the safety of your kid. When they have developed some responsibility give them a 'marker-can' (a spray-canister with agressive blue paint). The paint initially consists of some form of foam which is capable of reaching its target across considerable distances. It then sticks to the perpetrator's face and immediately eliminates vision. When the foam is washed of the blue paint remains for at least three days, makes it easier to identify the SOB. Unlike maze and pepperspray it isn't illegal here and when used inappropriately the consequences are overseeable.
Especially the last consideration is important to me (you know, the schoolyard-brawl)
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as bad as some of you hate it, more cameras would help
if the perp knew he was on candid camera he'd think twice or at least it'd limit his locations
and with convicted perps - kill them
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Start your kids in Hapkido at age 5 and maybe by the time there young ladies they will be able to kick the watermelon out of a would be attacker.
And as crappy as it sounds IF I had kids they would have some sort of tracking chip in them.
Hell we use Lojack for our cars why not our kids.
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Originally posted by mrblack
And as crappy as it sounds IF I had kids they would have some sort of tracking chip in them.
Hell we use Lojack for our cars why not our kids.
Now that's the best idea yet! :lol
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I'm wondering if you are also planning for an asteriod collision.
Almost ALL child abductions are by the non-custodial parent. Worry more about keeping your marriage happy than arming your kids... sheeesh!
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the trick is use your feet to kick them in the balls and the run for your life imo.
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I'm wondering if you are also planning for an asteriod collision. - MT
It depends on where you are, MT.
Most parents do need to worry about this and train thier kids on what to do if it happens - throughout thier childhood.
Another thing you can do is to know the location of at least some of the sexual predators. Each state has their own sexual offender and predator database.
The database for Florida can be accessed HERE (http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/)
All you have to do is go to the search page and enter the name of your city or county and it will list names, photos and addresses of every single one of them living there who have been convicted for applicable sex offenses ... of course, this doesn't identify all of them.
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Yeah, it only identifies those that got caught...
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lasersailor184: Nothing you can really do about it.
What kind of statement is that?
I just said that I can arm my child with a deadly weapon that does nor require physical strength to use.
You may have an opinion on how effective it would be or legality of it or suggestion on the implementation details but to say I can do nothing is plain nonsense.
Except execution for those that abduct children.
I assume you mean legal execution by the state? Well, that is exactly what I can do nothing about! So you got it totally inverted.
That'd be a hellofa reason not to.
There are hellofa reason not to. "Society cannot take life". "Abductors deserve mercy", "Abductors had tough childhood", "Abductors can change and become different people", "Plea bargain in return for saving the prosecution the effort", etc., etc... The usual crap.
Eagler: as bad as some of you hate it, more cameras would help...
Kids have many reasons to avoid cameras. That's where the predators will look for them.
mrblack: Start your kids in Hapkido at age 5...
I checked - they accept them at age 4. But it is rather inconvenient, remaking one's life around a possible attacker. That is why we have weapons - to serve as time-savers and equalizers.
midnight Target: if you are also planning for an asteriod collision
I was going to write that I don't since it would be futile and I am not crazy, but then I realised that I actually do plan for that!
I am working towards my descendants being intelligent and wealthy and living in a free society enjoying and promoting scientific and technological progress - so that they could have an option when an asteroid becomes a threat.
I am not planning for an asteroid hit in my lifetme, if that's what you mean.
miko
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Originally posted by miko2d
[take life". "Abductors deserve mercy", "Abductors had tough childhood", "Abductors can change and become different people", "Plea bargain in return for saving the prosecution the effort", etc., etc... The usual crap.
mrblack: Start your kids in Hapkido at age 5...
I checked - they accept them at age 4. But it is rather inconvenient, remaking one's life around a possible attacker. That is why we have weapons - to serve as time-savers and equalizers.
The problem is Miko is you might not always have a "weapon" with you.
And besides Hapkido will teach you kids respect disipline and corodination.
Besides most kids enjoy the stuff .
gives them a place to spend there energy LOL.
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I intend to for the same good reasons you've cited.
But since I do not believe in a fair fight or giving them second chances as well as in taking unnecesary risks, why use er... Hapkido to just give them bruised nuts if you can cause them to die in agony and stop being a nuisance altogether?
In fact, one does not preclude the other.
miko
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Originally posted by miko2d
I intend to for the same good reasons you've cited.
But since I do not believe in a fair fight or giving them second chances as well as in taking unnecesary risks, why use er... Hapkido to just give them bruised nuts if you can cause them to die in agony and stop being a nuisance altogether?
In fact, one does not preclude the other.
miko
I think the best real street fighting technic there is would be Gracie jitsu
Because unlike the movies most fights end up on the ground at some point and those dudes know there watermelon in ground fighting let me tell ya.
In case you never seen em in the ultimate fighting championships they take on dudes way bigger and stronger and wear there arsess out LOL.
Now another good on Is Aki-Jitsu Its a hybrid of aikido and ju-jitsu.
You will most likely f&^k someone up if you learn that.
I happend to like Kenpo very good for larger people like me that cant move like Bruce Lee LOL:rofl