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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Reschke on February 04, 2004, 03:09:06 PM
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Finally the combined Allied forces in the Pacific are ready to mount an assault deep into the Empire's backyard. It's been a long hard war with many losses and setbacks. The campaign in Europe has finally ground to a conclusion. All available resources have been sent to deal with the Japanese.
Situated only 360 miles from the Home Islands the Imperial Japanese Command has designated that Okinawa is to be a key component of the inner defensive ring around Japan. They have massed forces such as suicide boats and submarines all around the island in a last ditch effort to push back the Allied advance. Their best men and equipment stand ready.
For nearly 1 year the Allies have struggled to get to this point. This attack is to be the largest that the war has ever seen.
Allied Intelligence has told all air units to be on the lookout for unusual contacts. It is feared that the technology the Germans employed prior to their defeat may have been shared with the Japanese.
A flight of four U.S. Navy Corsairs confirmed that fear with a radio transmission prior to their loss:
"Henhouse this is Blue one, we have contacts ... high speed contrails ... holy .."
"Say again, Blue one"
"These contacts are amazingly fast. Like nothing I've ever seen ... Danny break!"
"Blue one ... say again. Are you engaged with the contacts?"
"Roger Henhouse. We are under attack."
"Say again your coordinates, Blue one .... "
(radio silence)
"Blue one are you there?"
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Admiral Halsey sat back in his chair after reading the intelligence memo and closed his eyes.
"It's worse than we thought then, isn't it Bob?"
Halsey's chief of staff, Rear Admiral Robert Carney looked deadly serious.
"Yes sir. The Japanese are much farther along in jet aircraft production than was previously estimated."
"Dammit to hell! Intel really screwed the pooch on this one. We've got Japanese jets flying all over Okinawa! Any word on our own? What have we got to meet them head on?"
"We just don't have the strips to operate our P-80s off of ... nor the British Meteors for that matter. Besides, even if we did, those "Shooting Stars" have short legs and are maintenance nightmares ... hell, most of the Air Corps pilots call it a death trap anyhow. The Fireball project fell behind when funding was transferred after ..."
"Yes, I know ... after we damned near blew up New Mexico. I wish those politicians and scientists eager to build big bombs we can't even deliver would stop taking money from the projects that WOULD help end this war, dammit!
So we're going to have to fight jet aircraft with prop planes. Well get ComAirSouthPac on the horn and apprise him of the situation. See if he can have something for me ASAP. If we can't fly as fast as the enemy we damned well better have him surrounded. I don't want any more scouting patrols jumped. From now on we operate in force."
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The planeset for both sides
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Japan
Me 262 (reskinned to represent Karyu) Perked to 10 points and limited bases
Me 163 (reskinned to represent J8M) Perked to 5 points and limited bases
Ar 234 (reskinned ) NO PERKS but limited bases
N1K 2J George
Ki 61 Tony
A6M2 Zeke
A6M5 Zero
Val
Kate
Ki 67 Peggy
C47 for troop and supply
Here is the airbase layout for the Karyu (Me-262). Base locations of 10,18,24,26,29,30,32,34,37. The last four bases are all in the North of the map and on 2-3 islands.
Here is the airbase layout for the Nitaka (Ar-234). Base locations of 10,13,18,24,29,30,32,34,37. Again the last four bases are all in the northern most area of the map.
Here is the airbase layout for the J8M (Me-163). Base locations of 10,12,13,18,20,26,32,34,37. Simply because it would have been a "simpler" aircraft to build and put in place easier than the more complicated jet aircraft.
All other Imperial Japanese aircraft are placed at all available bases on the map and the vehicles are available at all bases as well.
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Allies
C47 for troop and supply
U.S.N.
F4U-4
F4U-C
F6F-5
TBM
U.S.A.A.C
P-51D
P-47D-30
P-38L
B-17G
The Royals
Tempest
Spitfire 14
All US and RAF aircraft are available from the single US base that is controlled to the west of Okinawa. USN aircraft and RN are available on carriers.
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Vehicles Available:
Both sides will have all M class vehicles available
Tigers ARE NOT AVAILABLE!
Fleets 1,3,4 and 5 are active the others are bugged and will be moved to locations far away as Rook. Japanese Fleet is ok for the setup.
Fuel Burn Rate of .5[/COLOR]
Following settings from Bradys previous Okinawa setups:
Fleat hardness will by 50% of MA standard, 4k for a Cv and 750 pounds for any other ship.
All bases have SB's they will be set to 5k, as apposed to 4k which is their default setting.
The Ack gun hardenss will be increased to 50KG.
Ack is set at .7 as is normal in the CT.
Dot dar will be at 20 miles for enemy and unlimited for friendly.
500 foot height for dar.
Thanks to Slash27 for the initial idea; Arlo for the write up and the website; Dux for the new skins; Brady for the ideas on perks and opposition thinking; Squire and TheBug for being opposition and helping us rethink some stuff; Rafe35 for some information and links. (Geez what kind of grammar is that.)
This was truly a joint work of many people digging up information and I appreciate having had the chance to work with all of them on this; since it was the first true collaboration within the CT Development Group.
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I allready love it :D
Don't forget to reset perk points
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Originally posted by artik
I allready love it :D
Don't forget to reset perk points
Let me be the voice of contrariness on this one. Even contrary to myself.
Allied forces, as scheduled here, are grossly superior to non-jet Japanese forces. There will be a need for Axis players with lots of perks right from the beginning - or no one will ever build up perks at all on the Axis side. So I vote (yes, yes, I'm sorry, but I must) not to reset perks.
- oldman (otherwise, could be fun, and I should be there for some of it)
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Kewl.
I've been needing a little more time off from the CT. This looks like as good excuse as any.
Obviously a lot of work went into it, particularly in the skins department. Not anywhere near my cup 'o tea but shows some effort is going into mixing up stale offerings and raises hopes for the future.
Catch y'all on the next go'round.
Splash1
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Thanks for trying it:aok
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The issue of resetting the perk points was debated for a few days and in the end it was determined that we would leave them alone.
Dennis,
Sorry you aren't going to try it out. You never know what something like this might be like till you try it but if you are out then so be it. Catch you next time around in the CT.
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I agree with oldman on this one, however, if someone already has 250 perks....why have perks at all? But on the other hand this will keep the MA dweebs out that come in hoping to take advantage of the situation. I say we use this map as an experiment and think about perks next time.
But for now, dont reset perks.
Maybe reset perks to like 150 next time.
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Is it even possible to take away perkies without reseting them to zero?
I think in the future that would be the way to go, but we'll see how it goes.
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A6M-2 is going to rule the skies.
eskimo
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A6m5 and the Nik 2j ...this is gonna be Ugly:rofl
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Originally posted by 1Duke1
Is it even possible to take away perkies without reseting them to zero?
I think in the future that would be the way to go, but we'll see how it goes.
We don't know about that Duke. We thought about it and decided to let the perks stay for this setup. Very soon I will have a list of questions on the perk issue for Skuzzy to kick upstairs and get the correct answer on for the future future.
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i will shoot down atleast 1 262:D
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Pretty cool idea. I have a question. If the bomb didnt work , and the Allies would have had to invade the Home Islands of Japan , and the Japanese managed to get the Karyu , and J8M, in service. Don't you think the USN would have had the F8F Bearcat , the FH1, Phanton "Jet", and the USAAF , would have had the P-80 "Jet"?
If Japans limited resources could produce all this, while having her ports blockaded , bombed, and no friends to help . Your going to assume the US couldnt get her own jets in the fight? Don't forget the Brits were fighting Japan as well, wouldnt they have gotten Gloster Meteors, out of Okinawa along with USAAF P-80s? Also don't forget the Dehavilland Vampire of Royal Navy carriers, another jet from the class of 46. This isnt even touching the early Soviet jets like the Yak-15, and Mig-9. The Soviets were not going to sit by and not grab as much as they could of the pie.
I know the scenario setup has Halsey saying there are no strips for the RAF/USAAF jets. However you can bet seabees, and combat engineers would have had the first piece of Japan captured turned into Nellis AFB.
Sorry Reschke, don't mean to pee on the parade. This was a great idea , it's just a lil too what if. If you had dropped the Jets, and given the Japanese the maybe the LA-5, and LA-7 to represent the KI-100, and KI-84, this would have been a killer setup. I do appluad and appreciate what your doing though. For your first setup, you did great.
:aok
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Japanese need La5 to sub as Ki84. Maybe even the 7 considering that with the 262 perked and with limited bases this will be an allied slaughter party. The 163 will be intrsting but again given its short endurance the perk cost and base limit will hurt a lot. The allies can get F4U4, tempest, chog and spit 14 off carriers for free while Japanese only have Niki.
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Wasn't my idea Lowe I just helped form it once they got it rolling.
As we stated though this is strictly an "alternate reality" (AR) setup and it does assume a great many things. This is the first invasion of Okinawa by the Allies and even with suggested setbacks the Allies have steam rolled the Japanese till they reach Okinawa. One early thought on this was to have this attack on Okinawa be a second invasion attempt with the first one having been thrown back into the ocean in 1945 and the Allies having to rebuild and regroup. Since this setup assumes that Japan is going at it alone we also kept the Soviets out of it since they never wanted any part of Japan till the very end when it was already decided who was going to win.
Just think about what would have happened if the B-29 had been cancelled after its crash and burn during early testing. There were no other long range, pressurized cabin bombers on the boards in the early war years that I know of which could have done the job...So how would we (US) have delivered any bombs to Japan other than by carrier forces?
The Spit 14 isn't available off of any carriers in this setup. Plus the fuel burn rate has been reduced to .5 to help the Me-163 has a little longer legs and possibly allow axis drivers get home with any kills they might bag.
As for subbing in more prop aircraft just to fill a role we did look at putting in Fw-190's in skins to represent Ki-100's. But it became apparent that with the jets and 163 going in we thought the Japanese would have a much better go of it against an all prop lineup.
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Originally posted by Löwe
Sorry Reschke, don't mean to pee on the parade. This was a great idea , it's just a lil too what if. If you had dropped the Jets, and given the Japanese the maybe the LA-5, and LA-7 to represent the KI-100, and KI-84, this would have been a killer setup. I do appluad and appreciate what your doing though. For your first setup, you did great.
:aok
You'd be peeing on my timeline actually. And yes .. it's a far far stretch for suspension of disbelief but there just ain't much that can be done when the setup's premise relies on the limitations of the game's planeset. I had to work backwards from:
1: The game has no B-29s.
2: The game has no atomic bomb.
3: The game has no Allied jets.
and try to come up with some kind of rationalization that was at least in the ballpark. I agree that it's not a very good chance that the U.S./Allies wouldn't have made the progress they did in research and development but with the limits of the Ace's High virtual universe that's the only way to try to "explain" this alternate reality.
Hence:
1: Operation Felix succeeds and the Suez canal falls making the Med Hitler's personal pond thereby creating a more secure route between Germany/Italy and Japan.
2: Senator Truman axes the XB-29 project.
3: The Manhattan project suffers a major setback due to the Trinity disaster ... though the disaster itself proves the bomb feasible and the project HAS to carry on (though funding from several other research projects has to be redistributed to accomodate this).
4: The lack of foresight to make P-80 operations practical and feasible within the immediate timeframe.
5: No German jet technology or data surviving to make it into allied hands.
Yes ... you bet it's alot of far-fetched hoops to hafta deal with but I did my best. I, personally, am struggling some with the AR premise. If anyone can come up with a better storyline that can explain why we can't fly allied jets or B-29s or drop a nuke in this setup I'm all for it.
As far as modeling LA-either to represent any late war Japanese ride not represented in the AH planeset is concerned, I've been an advocate of that from way back. Unfortunately not everyone on the team is.
If you're just saying that it's not going to be fun because the premise is thin ... I sure hope players don't let that be an obstacle. Everything we play in any arena or event in Ace's High has an element of "what if" to it. If it didn't we'd just be paying HT $15 a month to be reenactors. Admittedly, this setup just has more "what-ifs" up front than most but I still think it's got potential to be not only different but fun and challenging..
I went ahead and jumped on the bandwagon with this and gave it my best shot to not only promote it but to make it just a little bit more believable. I figure if the CT Dev Group can make this one work then we can make most anything work.
I've already got plans to put the same amount of effort in supporting Squire's proposed setup.
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One idea on why the nuke couldn't be dropped Arlo...I sort of headed down the road in my post to Lowe but didn't finish it out. The XB-29 was cancelled after the disaster during testing and the United States had no alternate plan for long range bombers on the table to possibly replace the XB-29 if something happened. So what happens now? Is it possible for a B-17/B-24 stripped of everything except a crew to make it over Japan, drop an atomic weapon then survive?
What other bomber had the lift capacity of 10,000 lbs and the ability to make a 3200 mile round trip? None that I know of and none that were even thought of as a design/prototype during the war.
To complete this AR thought you have to use designs that were actually on the boards during the war. Any other thing you dream up could have the Allies building a time machine or star trek transporter and beaming the bomb into Hiroshima or any other location. :eek: :lol
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Originally posted by Reschke
Any other thing you dream up could have the Allies building a time machine or star trek transporter and beaming the bomb into Hiroshima or any other location. :eek: :lol
Hey .. that was my idea for the mini-setup between the next CT switch. It would take all of one second or so to run.
Actually there's something hidden in my AR timeline I'd like to look into.
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I agree with oldman on this one, however, if someone already has 250 perks....why have perks at all?
How many people have 250 perks?
If he is an average pilot who've obtained 250 perks over a long long amount of CT time, clearly he's not a large threat in a Me262(but yes, admittably annoyinh).
If he is a pilot who earns mucho perks every CT setup, the numbers of such pilots would be less than 5% of the total CT population in a certain timeline.
Personally, if I had authority I'd double the perk values to 20 and 10. 10 perks does seem a bit too light. But as per the argument of Oldman, in conventional planes the USN totals the Imperial Japanese hands down.
Assuming 50 people in the CT, 25 each side; if Axis pilots are willing to risk perks aggressively and 30% of their pilots are in 262s, that means eight 262s will have to cover the rest 17 people in their fight against 25 most powerful USN aircrafts. Given the flighttime in rearward bases, I estimate about 60% of the time 25 USN pilots in Chogs and 4hogs, will be facing 18 in N1K2s.
It just comes down to what kind of opportunity the USN might find against IJ forces when there's not a 262 around, and how well they can grab it.
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The only thing I would change is the Japanese need either the La5 or La7, otherwise its gonna be a rout.
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Plus the fuel burn rate has been reduced to .5 to help the Me-163 has a little longer legs and possibly allow axis drivers get home with any kills they might bag.
Fuel Burn Ratio has no effect on Me163 fuel burning. I have tested it when designed Kadesh. Actually its duration time is about 6.5 minutes with any burn ratio. Think if at MA with 2.5 BR it would have only 2 min of flight ;)
You can not change this for 163
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All this shows - we need:
Gloster Meteor
Vampire
P-80 Shooting Star
and some more jets (F-86, Mystere IV, MiG-15) ;).
One jet make it is hard to build ballanced jet setups
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nah, it just shows....
we should stick to WW2!!!!
i predict a slow week in CT. full of running... on both sides.
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i predict mass gangbangs because the US well have most of the numbers
i predict mass HO duels with F4U-1C VS NIK for the HO champ award
i predict most of the CT players not able to get kills in the ME262s or ME163s
this setup is going to be owned by CHOG's and niks very simple
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o yea forget the land bases fighter for the blue side well be the tempest
man just think about it 400+ tempest VS 350mph and the nik is much slower at lower alts
and those 4 british 20mms eeeee tempest and c-hogs be runing the show
lets not forget there jabo ablity
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Hmm...
If the La-5FN was skinned like a Frank.. I think it'd work.
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Thanks, but no thanks.
And it's hardly worth a banner.
We can't have an F4U1-C (even perked) in 1945 Okinawa but we can have jets in fantasy land. :rolleyes:
Can't sub a 110 for a ki45, can't have A6M2 vs a P40E in the Aleutians.
All this in the name of "balancing and fairness". What a joke.
Originally posted by Shane
nah, it just shows....
we should stick to WW2!!!!
Exactly.
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Originally posted by Arlo
You'd be peeing on my timeline actually. And yes .. it's a far far stretch for suspension of disbelief but there just ain't much that can be done when the setup's premise relies on the limitations of the game's planeset. I had to work backwards from:
from way back.
If you're just saying that it's not going to be fun because the premise is thin ...
Oh heck if I would have known it was your idea , I would have puked on it. Don't go getting defensive Arlo. How much grief have you given other peoples setups? The primis isnt thin for Science Fiction:p
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All US and RAF aircraft are available from the single US base that is controlled to the west of Okinawa
Why do the japs have so many bases? I think thier bases should be reduced to the mainland of Okinawa. I think u guys need to look at what bases are being given to the axis.
It wont take long for the allies to loose thier only base. And with the 262 and 163s capping the CVs, allies wont have much of a chance.
CV Hardness certainly needs to be much higher.
I think I will fly IJN next week
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Originally posted by storch
thank god for IL2 FB
yep
this qualify for the required PTO scenerio?
Next week back to ETO right?
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Nothing like a PTO once in a blue moon to bring out the doom and gloom prophets and the nay-sayers.
Glad everyone has given it a shot....since it hasn't even frieking run yet :rolleyes:
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What a bunch of sissys.
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Axis has 262/163's and Allies have Temp/F4U4, not completely even but close enough for me. I'll probably fly both sides since both have interesting plane choices we dont see very often. I think we at least owe it to the CT staff to give it a try before declaring it a failure.
Maybe give the IJA the 109D9 reskinned as a Ki-xx instead of the La7 since the LW guys will be more familiar with it?
Personally, I like the fact that the CT induces me to fly planes I would not have otherwise flown if I was in the MA. I have gotten proficient (or at least acceptable) in many planes I would never have given the time (all 109's, 110's, D9, Tiffie) to fly at all, much less get to like. Now I enjoy those planes, especially the Tiffie.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
A6M-2 is going to rule the skies.
eskimo
Nah, A6M-2 would down so easily :D
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By Eagler:
"this qualify for the required PTO scenerio?
Next week back to ETO right?"
Eurotrash
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all of you are morons.
except slash
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What would ever give you that idea? ;)
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Originally posted by Löwe
Oh heck if I would have known it was your idea , I would have puked on it. Don't go getting defensive Arlo. How much grief have you given other peoples setups? The primis isnt thin for Science Fiction:p
Not. Just tellin' you where it comes from bruthah. The premise actually started out as what appeared to me as a tongue in cheek suggestion about giving the Japanese Jets (since any and all setups with F4Us in them generally gets cried about because of the huge and awesome and overpowering difference in speed). Reschke picked up the ball and ran with it. I figured if it had a chance in hades without it being whined to death before the setup was even turned on in the arena that I'd at least try to make it sound remotely plausible and maybe see about finally promoting a CT setup outside of this forum. Of course, I forgot that even setups that are more realistic than this one get whined about from beginning to end in the CT forum. Which is a good reason to promote it elsewhere anyhow.
I'll be doing the same for Squire's setup (and every CTDev setup that comes out). Maybe players won't try to whine his to death until they at least give it a try first.
But there will be more setups, over time, that involve some AR "what if" in them. Everything in AH is a "what if" anyhoo. Even if AH had a planeset that included every single plane, vehicle and ship that hit the drawing boards from 1925-1945 it would be. It's the pure nature of playing a sim and not being reenactors. This time it just started out with some (or alot even) "what if" already in place. Wait until you see my Star Trek transporter A-bomb one get announced. Players will wear ash cloth and cut themselves. ;) :aok
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"Maybe players won't try to whine his to death until they at least give it a try first."
Hey Arlo, I want to feel the love too, you know? :)
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Squire,
"Banners By Arlo" is nothing if not accomodating.
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I'll try this one--Big blue Vs, Everything Japanese, just what the Arlonians were calling for!
Sakai
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Hehe, very nice. We will be calling on you in the future.
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Originally posted by Squire
Hehe, very nice. We will be calling on you in the future.
Actually this was more of what I had in mind:
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Originally posted by Sakai
I'll try this one--Big blue Vs, Everything Japanese, just what the Arlonians were calling for!
Sakai
The "Arlonians" suggested Lavochian subs for the Ki-84 and/or Ki-100 a loooong time ago as well. That didn't make it. This did. Don't conveniently forget that. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Of course, I forgot that even setups that are more realistic than this one get whined about from beginning to end in the CT forum. Which is a good reason to promote it elsewhere anyhow.
I don't recall any setup being whined out. Voicing your opinon is not whining. Maybe accusing people of whining is a way to deal with the fact they may not like the same thing you do. If it's floats your frigate weigh anchor sailor!:D
Actually I can't whine about this, he Allies are going to have all the advantages , unless they cross paths with the jets. This ought to be fun, just think the idea of ther LA's to back up the Japanese is better than the jets. You even said that yourself.
Erg has posted an idea that maybe using less is more. By using less plane types per side , say one or two fighter types per side per setup. This sounds like a good idea too , it would make each setup, a little more unique. Anyway I'm rootin for this scenario ., we need something to make the PTO's more appealing if this is it....... That makes you da man MARLO!:aok
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Originally posted by Löwe
I don't recall any setup being whined out.
Geez, this one is coming close.
C'mon, you guys, give it a chance for Pete's sake. By Sunday or Monday night we should have an idea if it was a kewl idea or an abortion, but let's see how it flies first.
- oldman
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Eh ... my part in this was just on the promotional end. Maybe some will think that sucked too. :D
If not and it brings in numbers (even numbers that end up disgusted or pissed or sumpin) then I guess MARLO is da man! Go Marlo! Who's your daddy?! Go Marlo! Hey! Hey!
:rolleyes:
But I think it'll be fun. At least for all those wanting to have fun. ;)
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what? a PTO setup with my hellcat in it? Count me in. :D
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Originally posted by Löwe
Erg has posted an idea that maybe using less is more. By using less plane types per side , say one or two fighter types per side per setup. This sounds like a good idea too , it would make each setup, a little more unique.
Also in the works on my end my good man. But I am thinking of making it where I change the setup a couple of times in the week so people don't get stagnated in the matchups.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Eh ... I guess MARLO is da man! Go Marlo! Who's your daddy?! Go Marlo! Hey! Hey!
:rolleyes:
Sorry Bud just figured it was time Maggie had a side kick.:D
Hope this thing goes good.
Hey Oldman where ya been?? Nobodys been in CT crying about numbers, your missed. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Arlo
The "Arlonians" suggested Lavochian subs for the Ki-84 and/or Ki-100 a loooong time ago as well. That didn't make it. This did. Don't conveniently forget that. :D
I think people who worry about convenience of forgetting are somehow caught up in a loop on the planet Arlonia.
;-)
Sakai
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Geez, this one is coming close.
C'mon, you guys, give it a chance for Pete's sake. By Sunday or Monday night we should have an idea if it was a kewl idea or an abortion, but let's see how it flies first.
- oldman
And this way, the after whining about the Niki, the allies can up as Axis and vultch in 163s and 262s.
Sakai
OK, just trolling. Seriously, its intriguing, try and fly it. Let's see what comes shall we?
S
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Storch what is up with that signature?
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Originally posted by Sakai
I think people who worry about convenience of forgetting are somehow caught up in a loop on the planet Arlonia.
;-)
Sakai
I think people who forget out of convenience just like excuses to beech and moan alot without having to deal with remembering who their beeching and moaning about. What planet are YOU from now, Sakareeno? :D Good try though.
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Originally posted by Arlo
I think people who forget out of convenience just like excuses to beech and moan alot without having to deal with remembering who their beeching and moaning about. What planet are YOU from now, Sakareeno? :D Good try though.
Arlo buddy, you're getting a little too far into this "who is my enemy in CT" thing, OK? Seriously, you're sounding a tad deranged and paranoid Mr. Nixon.
Sakai
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Originally posted by Sakai
Arlo buddy, you're getting a little too far into this "who is my enemy in CT" thing, OK? Seriously, you're sounding a tad deranged and paranoid Mr. Nixon.
Sakai
Hmmm .... and you're not Mr. Macnamara? :D Get over it with the "Great Arlonian Pac Conspiracy" already. Look at what's there right now. Just picture it with Japanese Lalas and you'd see the true evilness that is the "pro-blue Arlonian conspiracy to rule the world." :D
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Originally posted by storch
I responded by pointing to the long known flaws in the modelling of the MGFF and the type 99-1 cannons as opposed to the remarkable performance of the .50 and the 20mm hispanos. I asked him to provide a patch remedying the situation.
When I read his reply (prompted to do so by urchin) I was into my third or fourth bloody mary at 0200-0300 and I responded pretty crassly and promptly quit, erasing the game from my HD. Then the next week I bought IL-2 FB.
Leaving out the slight detail that not every player in AH has the problems with the type 99-1 cannons that you seem to. Just learn to use the planes and hit your target and stop blaming HTC for your suckiness. ;)
Welcome back. :D :aok
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I responded by pointing to the long known flaws in the modelling of the MGFF and the type 99-1 cannons as opposed to the remarkable performance of the .50 and the 20mm hispanos. I asked him to provide a patch remedying the situation.
HiTech responded by again by saying that I should apologize and not dig my hole "deaper" ( his marvelous spelling)
Go read it for yourself erg. Thats not exactly how it went down.
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Reading it from memory without reading it is, of course, the bestest way. Learn to fly. Learn to shoot. We're already impressed with your typing skills. :D
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Imnot taking sides on the matter Storch, there was just a little more to it. While I dont see this bull**** "uber-Allies weapons" thing I did think it was funny you telling him to kiss your ass. HT comes across less than friendly and a bit to arogant for me, but who the hell am I.(besides a customer:D )