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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GRUNHERZ on February 06, 2004, 04:05:19 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/02/06/moscow.blast/index.html
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Boroda, Time to check in.
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Thank you guys, I am OK.
The explosion happened two stops from where I have to change line. Trains move now exactly from my home in the North of Moscow (Rechnoy Vokzal station on green line) to Novokuznetskaya where I change lines OTW to work. The whole Southern part of green line is cut off, meaning that huge "sleeping" districts are almost isolated from the center.
I stayed at home untill lunch time, thought there will be crowds in an underground. Surprisingly the underground is nearly empty, and there are hundreeds of Militia warriors, as far as I saw - not from regular line underground militia but from city departments.
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http://www.vesti.ru/
Check on a tiny video-camera below the wreck image for video, and a photo camera for pictures.
Bloody bastards.
It's still not as bad as a 1977 "Armenian" underground terror bombing.
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Just watch this:
http://www.rambler.ru/db/news/simg.html?mid=4241774&n=2
This is a worst nightmare in a megapolis like Moscow...
In 1977 KGB have caught terrorists without having any evidence. Now they have videotapes from a camera on platform, I hope it will help, but OTOH the "assistant" who shouted "you'll have a celebration now!" to a platform attendant is probably already under the ice of Moskva river...
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Glad youre ok.
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Wow, :(
Glad your okay Boroda.
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Thank you guys!...
Here is a story from one Live-Journal user, Alexander Shushpanov:
Today I was in hell...
Maybe I am a lucky person. This morning I was in the train, who's second car was blown up. My friends, this was honestly scary, and I must be a person with a strong will if I didn't subdue to panic...
The morning started as usual - I took a bus to Kantemirovskaya underground station, met my friend Ilya, who works as a carpenter somwhere in South-West, and we took an underground ride together. Until Avtozavodskaya everything was OK, driver opened doors and let people come in and out, and took for Paveletskaya. After approximately one minute in a tunnel we heard a not-very-loud explosion ahead, wind brought a cloud of stinky yellow smoke and the damaged cables on tunnel walls on both sides of a train were lit by bright electric sparks. Train moved about 50 meters ahead and stopped. There was so much smoke that eyes hurt. I thought it can be poison gas - in this case there could be no survivors. No, just smoke. I see a "passenger-driver" intercom on a car wall bight beside me. I press a button and say that I am in such a car and here is a lot of smoke.Driver answers that everything is under control and the evacuation will be organized soon. For about two minutes nothing happens, only smoke gets stronger. I take off my hat, and, pardon me, urinate on it, and breath through it, folded twice. Exactly as we were taught in Emercom. Some people follow my example. I squat down and advice others to do so too. We sit down. Horrible screams are heard from ahead, and like someone is breaking windows. Reasonable action in case the train is stopped in a tunnel and the air is getting stuffy, but not when the tunnel is filled with smoke. Idiots. Driver declares that the contact rail is cut off and he will now open the doors so we can walk back to Avtozavodskaya. I jump down to the rails, help some woman to follow me, and go a little forward. The crowd is standing on both sides of a train. Ilya jumped on the opposite side, I see him from between the cars, he gives me an "OK" gesture. All right, I calm down a little. People can't move because from far cars people still come out and block the way, they come out and go away, out and away - it's rush hour. People start to panic, like "We will all suffocate here!". A woman that I helped to get out of a car starts to shout that Avtozavodskaya is not behind us but ahead, screams that everyone will die now. I turn to her and produce some horrible obscene construction, followed by an order to calm down. And she did calm down!.. People start to walk away, we move towards the station. After the train smoke thins and the usnnel lamps are shining. We walk on ties, cracking glass under our soles, some metal particles on the floor (broken car parts). Someone gets sick and two guys carry him, speaking something encouraging, nice lads.
And here the hell starts. 50 meters behind the train I walked about 20 meters through blood, meat, through torn flesh... I will not describe it. No use. It was horrible. I haven't seen such things even in Emercom educational videos.
And then we walked to the station, where I threw away the hat and could wash my face - it was all sooty, go out to the street and take a deep breath of fresh air. No work today, I have to sleep for an hour or two.
Don't worry, I am OK. Not hurt, not poisoned by smoke. But I had to waste my hat... '-)
The original in Russian is here:
http://www.livejournal.com/~dj_shoo/121392.html
Sorry for a lame translation :(
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Thank you!
Glad to hear your ok.
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Terrible loss. Sorry Boroda.
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!#%$@#$@# terrorists :mad:
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
!#%$@#$@# terrorists :mad:
I feel sorry that we don't have death penalty now. But there is always a chance to kill them with bayonets in case they "fight back during arrest". :mad: No bullets, just kill them like pigs...
All that creatures who prepare suicide bombers by conditioning them under heavy drugs should be handed to Chinese for public execution on national TV. Chinese national TV is free and unencoded on almost every sattelite.
I envy Israelis. They retaliate. It's according to their prehistoric religion (no offences, it's just older then Christianity)...
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Glad to hear your ok Boroda!
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Glat to hear from you Boroda!
Daniel
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Glad to hear the arguments fight here, not people!
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Glad to hear your OK Boroda
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Pheuu Boroda, good to see that you are ok. :)
You never know, the world is a smaller place than one thinks. Hope nobody you know was injured.
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Pheuu Boroda, good to see that you are ok. :)
You never know, the world is a smaller place than one thinks. Hope nobody you know was injured.
Oh Nilsen yes, thanks for bringing that up!
Hope noone you know is injured Boroda!
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Borda,
WTF are you talking about?? Armenian terrorist targeting Russians? Turks yes. Moslems yes. Not Orthodox Christans. Explain yourself Borda...I'm Armenian.
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Originally posted by MC_Honky
Borda,
WTF are you talking about?? Armenian terrorist targeting Russians? Turks yes. Moslems yes. Not Orthodox Christans. Explain yourself Borda...I'm Armenian.
It's a long one store. He is talking about so known "Armenian brothers".
In 1977 in Moscow happened 3 blasts. The first one at January 8 1977 at 05:33pm between "Pervomayskaya" and "Izmaylovskaya" stations (Arbatsko-Pokrovskaya also named "blue" line of Moscow subway). It bringed more deaths and injures. There was a lot of children and their parents who were on the way to the home from New Year celebrations from the Izmaylovskiy Park (another one station of the same line). The bomb blasts on the "open" not-underground section, so this saved a lot of lives.
The second blast was at 06:05 in 32 minutes after the first one. It was in the shop. And the third one happened in 5 minutes later. Near another one shop on the 25-Letia Oktyabrya street.
Totally, 7 people including children were killed and 37 people including children were injured in these blasts.
Up to November 3 1977 all terrorists were found and arrested. There were 3 men in this group. All of them were armenians. Stepan Zakityan (group leader), Akop Stepanyan and Zaven Bagdasaryan. All of them from Erevan city.
The mostly interesting person was Stepan Zakityan. When he was a student of Erevan Polytechnical institute he created a "National United Party of Armeny" (NOP). He invited other students and they started the newspaper named "Paros" in armenian ("Mayak" in russian). Were they claimed Soviet Union in shovinism and other "deathly charges". This group was also known as "Armenian brothers". Another one target was to get back Nahichevan and Nagornyj Karabah regions to Armenia. (After the WW2, these regions were divided between Azerbajdjan and Armenia due to Stalin's order.)
Before they were arrested, they tryed to blast another one bomb at Kurskiy rail-road depot in Moscow. Unsuccesfully.
At January 24 1979 they were executed.
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Originally posted by MC_Honky
Borda,
WTF are you talking about?? Armenian terrorist targeting Russians? Turks yes. Moslems yes. Not Orthodox Christans. Explain yourself Borda...I'm Armenian.
Estel explained the whole story already...
IMHO it pretty well shows that there are enough idiots wanting to kill people for some stupid imaginary hallucinations they call "ideology" among even such cultural and friendly people as Armenians. :(
I remember that Armenian terrorist leader saying in court that he's fighting against "Russo-Jewish yoke"... What a bloody getveran!...
I am proud that my country helped Armenia in a war of early-90s. BTW, did you know that Iran strongly helped Armenia at that time too?... A good example of breaking stereotypes.
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Originally posted by Estel
It's a long one store. He is talking about so known "Armenian brothers".
In 1977 in Moscow happened 3 blasts. The first one at January 8 1977 at 05:33pm between "Pervomayskaya" and "Izmaylovskaya" stations (Arbatsko-Pokrovskaya also named "blue" line of Moscow subway). It bringed more deaths and injures. There was a lot of children and their parents who were on the way to the home from New Year celebrations from the Izmaylovskiy Park (another one station of the same line). The bomb blasts on the "open" not-underground section, so this saved a lot of lives.
The second blast was at 06:05 in 32 minutes after the first one. It was in the shop. And the third one happened in 5 minutes later. Near another one shop on the 25-Letia Oktyabrya street.
Totally, 7 people including children were killed and 37 people including children were injured in these blasts.
Up to November 3 1977 all terrorists were found and arrested. There were 3 men in this group. All of them were armenians. Stepan Zakityan (group leader), Akop Stepanyan and Zaven Bagdasaryan. All of them from Erevan city.
The mostly interesting person was Stepan Zakityan. When he was a student of Erevan Polytechnical institute he created a "National United Party of Armeny" (NOP). He invited other students and they started the newspaper named "Paros" in armenian ("Mayak" in russian). Were they claimed Soviet Union in shovinism and other "deathly charges". This group was also known as "Armenian brothers". Another one target was to get back Nahichevan and Nagornyj Karabah regions to Armenia. (After the WW2, these regions were divided between Azerbajdjan and Armenia due to Stalin's order.)
Before they were arrested, they tryed to blast another one bomb at Kurskiy rail-road depot in Moscow. Unsuccesfully.
At January 24 1979 they were executed.
You sure these blasts weren 't intentionally created by your own government? (Still snickering at kappas WTC post ):eek:
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Rip, the information about Armenian bombings was stricktly classified. All this things were de-classified in late-80s, on the wave of "destroyka". Maybe - just to morally justify Baku massacres against Armenians in 1990, one of the bloodiest crimes of that MFing traitor Gorbachov.
They have made several TV documentals about the terrorism in Soviet times recently. The trial coverage is B&W Ministry of Justice vague amateur TV tape. This things were never shown to public, especially if they involved national issues. You have to understand that we lived in a happy country, and had to listen to your propaganda on Voice of America to learn about such things. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You sure these blasts weren 't intentionally created by your own government? (Still snickering at kappas WTC post ):eek:
To be truly, I didn't read kappa's post, so I don't know his point of view. But I think, that this situation was inpossible that time. You must understand. Early 70's, Brezhnev is still in mind and Andropov is a KGB director. It was a begin of stagnation ("zastoj") period. Goverment wasn't interested in such things. It's all ok in the Union. 2 years before Afganian war. People don't think about problems because of there are no problems. What for? To begin catching dissidents? Oh my, they can just put them into the jail or into the special mental clinic. Nobody that time wanna find problems onto their heads. And in first this is true for KGB. They lost 9 months to find the reason and terrorists and after that, some KGB generals in Moscow and Erevan lost their ranks. Yes, sure, some of blasts we want to see like a work of our "anti-humanist" goverment. Especially before elections. But we must understand a whole situation. Our country is involved into war. And this war is bringing it's results.
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Borda, Estel
Forgive Ripsnort,
He is of the "Praise Jesus and Pass the Biscuts," class of people here in the US.
Rip,
Get back to work Airbus is kicking your ARSE!!!
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All BS aside, as a New York native - i'm glad to see yr alright.
Wolf