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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Tilt on February 06, 2004, 10:38:12 AM
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How many here have heard a fellow player blame other fellow players for his demise because they did not render him a "Check 6"?
How many here get "Check 6's" warning them of the ac they are pursuing?
How many here get multiple "Check 6's"?
How many here get "Check 6's" for enemy AC still some 5 k away.
How many here give verbal warning of enemy ac on range channel?
Isn't the "Check 6" an anachronism left over from an AH that had no vox?
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I wish there was a submenu for calls..Add more please like.."Your 6 is clear"..Or :On my way!..Hold on1"..or.."Tally Ho!!"
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Originally posted by Tilt
How many here have heard a fellow player blame other fellow players for his demise because they did not render him a "Check 6"?
How many here get "Check 6's" warning them of the ac they are pursuing?
How many here get multiple "Check 6's"?
How many here get "Check 6's" for enemy AC still some 5 k away.
How many here give verbal warning of enemy ac on range channel?
Isn't the "Check 6" an anachronism left over from an AH that had no vox?
AH still has no vox 50% of the time.
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Originally posted by dedalos
AH still has no vox 50% of the time.
I have never been without vox due to AH
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Well I sure could have needed that yesterday when you jumped my 262 yesterday tilt !! :D
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ahhhh.... the ol Check 6 Command key. Yet another (over looked by, HTC, during its AH creation.......) game feature responsible for creating a hostile environment even among fellow countrymen.
:( Couple this with the with the Kill Shooter and Assist feature.......And you've got Discord among the friendly's. For shame for shame. :( If it had NEVER been a feature...it would never have been expected or of others.
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Before we had AH vox folks ASKED HT for the "check six call". It was by player request, I think.
Don't know if the BBS goes back that far.
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Originally posted by Tilt
I have never been without vox due to AH
Good for you. Mine will be out for a week, then work fine for a week, then go off for a day, then no probs for a month bla bla bla. Nothing has changed on the computer since the instal of AH.
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Pyro:
Version 1.06 Released
Version 1.06 is now available.
Version 1.06
Added the P-51B, Fw 190F-8, Fw 190D-9, Yak-9T, Ta 152H-1, Arado 234B-2,
Tempest V, and La-7.
Added a new command to send "check six" warnings to your allies. This
key is defaulted to the ' key. If you've altered your keymap settings
before, you'll need to manually map this key. You can also assign this
function to a joystick button. Pressing this button will highlight the
icon of a friendly in view. Repeatedly pressing this button will cycle
through all the friendly icons in view. The call is automatically sent
one second after you finished selecting. The call will send a private
message in the text buffer and play an audio file on the recipients computer.
You cannot receive a six call from a person that you have squelched.
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Hate the whiners who come on channel and say, "Thanks for the no check six". That's funny. It's the net, you can't trust anyone, you need to have good SA to survive in the main. If you get a 6 call, great just helps.
I'll always give out a 6 call whenever possible by any of the previeously mentioned methods. If you keep your country mates alive the chances of your own survival are increased.
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I love giving Check 6's. Its like getting an instant wingman. What's kind of funny is when people complain about not getting "Check 6'd" when they're surrounded by 6 or so fellow countrymen. Its as if they forget how long it takes to toggle through all the guys around them. This usually happens during carrier invasions and base defenses when everyone is down low on the deck fighting in close quarters.
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That's true, I've actually flipped my plane around trying to single out their icon thru a view so that I can check6 them quicker.
Doesn't always work out, but sometimes it does.
Originally posted by gofaster
Its as if they forget how long it takes to toggle through all the guys around them. This usually happens during carrier invasions and base defenses when everyone is down low on the deck fighting in close quarters.
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I love getting check 6's... always try to thank the person. I used to whine when I didn't get a check 6. Gave it some thought and realized that sometimes one is too busy to get the view properly set for a check6.. a host of other reasons...
Now, I'm always appreciative when someone takes the time to give me one.
I usually give verbal check 6's. It's almost easier to key up and say, for example: "Mugz, hot f6 on you from your high 7.", than it is to center someone in your view, then press the "check 6" key.
Plus, in my mind, my info is more helpful than the generic keyboard warning.
I've heard people whine about getting too many check 6's. As if the people around him should take the time to coordinate just who is going to send the warning. :D
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I try and give Check6's whenever I can, but sometimes it's just not possible..... there may be so many others around, it's difficult to find the right one, and I end up sending it to the wrong person (who then demands to know why!) or if I'm in an Osty and have the gunsight fully zoomed, I often don't see it attack another friendly until it's too late! If I die to an unseen enemy on my 6, I only ever blame myself for not using SA and being aware of everything around me at all times - usually through target fixation! I would certainly not start blaming everyone else for my untimely death. :)
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I always give a verbal check6 when I see the situation. Only time I use the check6 key is when I can't read the name, can't pronounce the name, or their name is a set of 8 numbers - "number guys" probably get less check6s than most beacause of the name.
Sometimes I am not looking in someone's direction, they get wacked, and as they plummet to earth, they thank me for the NOT check6.
Just because you are in the general area of someone, don't expect them to ALWAYS be keeping an eye on your 6.
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I try and give them when I can. One of the interesting parts with the 'Check 6' is how often I hear it when there is somone close on the nose but not behind me. It's more like a proximity call :)
It makes me think of the stories you read in the books where someone hollers out a 'break' call without any ID and every plane in the fight turns on a wing to get out of the way even though there is really no reason to break.
Dan/Slack
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I give check 6 calls whenever possible. I don't necessarily expect much from players these days... but can't help but get irritated when you see a con creeping up on you with 3 friendlies behind him... none of which give you a check 6 call.
The complaint that I always though was irritating was the "where's my check 6" when you're in a heavy fight. Alot of people need to realize there's a time you just assume someone's going to be on your 6.
MiniD
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I agree with Guppy - it's more of a proximity call.
Frankly, getting a check 6 too often is way better than getting none at all. I give out as many check6s I could whenever I see an enemy near a friendly.
Another thing is that people give out check6s way too late.
When an enemy plane is already diving down on a friendly, it's usually too late. Someone should have given him a check6 when the moment they saw an enemy plane nearby him. An early warning is needed, so the pre-warned friendly can check the situation, make a judgement, or request others nearby to do a specific action regarding to the bogey nearby.
When he gets a check6 call and sees a bad guy behind him at 600 yards, that's much too late and ineffective.
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So, under that agenda, I give out very many check6 calls. I think probably almost everyone in Rooks has an experience of getting a check6 call from me. I really can't help it if some of those calls, were mistakenly given out.
In most cases, since I don't have a mic, I give out check 6 calls and explain the situation by radio. Also, I give check6 calls to a friendly who is being chased by an enemy to indicate that I have seen the situation, and will try to help: usually I type "keep speed up otw" in most cases.
Personally, I think the one-stroke check6 call is probably one of the best features in the game...
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For me it depends on the circumstance-
If your chasing a con who is some distance out, & appears to be lining up a coutrymen, it is the proper thing to do to let that countrytmen know they are being lined up by YOUR con.
All to many times the I see someone chasing a con who is in turn lining up a countrymen, they say nothing to the countryman so that he wont do any hard evasives. If the coutrymen flies nice & strait so will the con. CHICKEN EXCREMENT PILOTS DO THIS.
Ultimately--- its your 6, you watch it, it means more to you than to anyone else-
Mention of Vox, I have several guys in my squad that lose Vox hourly, I have lost vox no more than 5 times total. I prefer to use range radio for SA warnings most of the time. My countrymen know I always call out cons when I see them, & I always give check6s & I regularly dive in to clear countrymen in trouble. For me its a game thats more enjoyable & survivable when played as a TEAM.
A_Clown
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Originally posted by Mini D
Alot of people need to realize there's a time you just assume someone's going to be on your 6.
MiniD
BINGO.....WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!
Please report to the front of the building for your prize :aok
Hint: Never fly the same compass heading for very long.......especially in a Hostile environment. Even when you are in the middle of Nowhere, change compass heading by several degrees in a Zig Zag pattern while in cruise mode.
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I'll give a holler out on Vox if I think of it. I don't have the check6 key mapped though.
And personally, I don't like getting check 6s very much. My SA isn't perfect, yet most check6s I get do more harm than good.
1/3 of the time, it's a check 6 for a bandit I'm already evading, yet I instictually look around for ANOTHER bandit on my 6.
1/3 of the time, its really a "check 12" from a player a.) too far away to know which way the planes are pointing/moving b.) a player behind me who would very much like me to get out of the way so that he can use his hispanos/.50s from d700 out (as opposed to my suck bellybutton gunnery which requires me to be within d150 to hit anything with the ShVAK).
The rest of the time its a combination of accidental calls, jokes from squadmates/friends and maybe 1/16th of the time it's a bandit I had no idea was in the area about to kill me.
I'd rather just take the death and be ashamed of my SA failure.
-Sik
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Originally posted by Sikboy
I'll give a holler out on Vox if I think of it. I don't have the check6 key mapped though.
"Hey, GF, what's that coming up behind you?"
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I'll give them whenever I can...all ways amazed at the whinning when someone doesnt get one...had a guy call me out over vox specifically last week....
Think I "check 6'd" two guys around him before he got popped...course he could see me just fine...but not the bad guy directly between us:)...
I always say thanks...cept of course for the dweebs that will try and check 6 you off a kill....more than a few of those around.
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I don't give Check 6's at all. Why risk the chance of scaring your bait into doing something stupid while you line up for the shot on the bad guy on the bait's six?
ack-ack
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I like chk6 even with vox.
I like chk6ing squaddies then putting a burst over their cockpit. LOL Airow's Oh S! !! then stalling his jug and sending ord all over the map.
I love chk6ing kill stealers half a billion times.
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Ack-Ack proudly sides with the CHICKEN EXCREMENT PILOTS.
What a countrymen! With friendlies like that, who needs NMEs? May as well just have the whole arena as a FFA with that mentality.
Hopefully it was an attempt at humor-
A_Clown
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Originally posted by A_Clown
Ack-Ack proudly sides with the CHICKEN EXCREMENT PILOTS.
What a countrymen! With friendlies like that, who needs NMEs? May as well just have the whole arena as a FFA with that mentality.
Hopefully it was an attempt at humor-
A_Clown
I need a ruling on this one guys. Is this guppy I hooked too small to keep or can I fry it up in a pan?
ack-ack
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make up your own mind-
A_Clown
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Too bad the DFG ruled you're under the legal limit and I have to throw you back in. Would you please be so kind as to spit up that hook you swallowed? Careful, I don't use barbless hooks.
ack-ack
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I swallowed no hook-
If you wish to use a fishing metephore- then
"He stole my bait & now I have to re-bait & cast again" would be more accurate. For you see, I did state that "Hopefully it was an ATTEMPT at humor-" and apparently it was just that- an attempt.
A_Clolwn
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I think it's more fun to send the check 6 after their plane is flaming meteor. Better late than never!
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it saves me time alot of the time trying to read the players name that im warning of impending danger
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Originally posted by Tilt
I have never been without vox due to AH
Does it matter what it's due to unless it's intentional on your part? Point being .... the "check six" key still serves a purpose. :D
btw .... there are hearing impaired AH players.
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i get alot of check six's<~~but i hate when some one gives you a check six when your on the six of a enemy,,going in for the kill,,then suddenly you get a check six ,,look behind you,,just too see that guy who gave you the check six,,sneeking in tring to get you to break so he can grab your kill<~~i have had that happen a few times,,lol,,very annoying
i have broke a few times,,thinking there is a enemy on my six,,just to realize it was some doofus tricking me just so he can grab a cheap easy kill,,that sucks,,lol
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I'll generally use the check6 key when I can if I'm pretty sure the friendly doesn't know there's a guy on his 6. For the tardlets that gripe about no check6 after they've been killed, I always make sure to give them a hearty check 6 over country vox or the range channel. :)
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Give 'em when I can. Give verbal ck 6 when I can read and/or pronounce yer callsign. Eyes ain't what they usta be. Always keep my "damn, no ck 6" to myself, wish everyone did.
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I mainly use this feature to annoy squadmates... repeatedly.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I mainly use this feature to annoy squadmates... repeatedly.
so true ... I wonder why I still didn't file a complaint to HTC.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I mainly use this feature to annoy squadmates... repeatedly.
... and me....:mad:
:D :D :aok
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I was listening to a guy whine about no-one giving him a check-6 on the "range" channel while I was shooting a YAK off his buddy. Would have been nicer if he'd have given me a check-6 for the 109 I didn't see rather than complaining about things that had already happened.
Of course I hadn't heard any communication from this bozo except his complaining about check-6 calls during the entire defensive.
Check-6s are great when you can give them, and great when you get them. When its 20 vs 20 in one big hairy furball it gets a little busy and its hard to keep babysit everyone else. I usually just worry about my squadies in that situation.
Then there's the low La7 comming into the fight on the deck like the hammers-of-heck. Nobody saw this one.
Then there's the other thought, you don't realize that the guy was droping on a specific target. You set up the intercept, focused on the bog, at 600-yds you realize he has a friendly in his sights. Would you rather have the check-6 or have me pull the trigger and solve the problem? I can key the mic quicker, just hope you don't have an eye-chart line or your social sec. number as your handle.
Good check-6 calls come from experience.
As has already been stated in this thread however, its your arse, you may want to keep an eye on it.