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Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Dowding on February 09, 2004, 11:13:47 AM: Wow that was difficult.

It's improved a lot. The air war is still flaky and there are still a fair few annoying bugs and exploits, but overall I was impressed with what I saw/heard.

- The sounds are now superb; I have a set-up that has 6.1 Surround Sound, and the directional sounds are brilliant. When driving your tank, the sound of engine comes from behind... err where the engine is. Nice. Doppler effect seems to be almost flawless now.

- effects are nice; explosions etc are very impressive, and when you end up in a firefight it really feels emmersive. For some reason I love the plume of black smoke emitted from the exhausts when a tank starts its engine. When a plane crashes you get an appropriate crash sound and some pretty fireball effects.

- the ground war is great fun; particularly as a grunt - tanking is great too. Being part of a large armour/infantry/air attack is unparalleled as a gaming experience.

- fewer show stopping bugs; still get screen stutter when flying, but since I avoid flying generally it's not an issue

Compared to the last time I played it, it has come on leaps and bounds.

Problems:

- the pandemic of armchair commanders is a real turn-off. Team work is fine, but I'd rather not be lectured about what I should be doing by some 12 year old in his mother's basement.

- blinking in and out of other units is a constant issue

- graphics are pretty substandard - colours are drab with no vibrancy (soon get used to it though)

- nightime is a waste of time, since it can be guaranteed that everyone adjusts their gamma to compensate

- tree-climbing sn1p3r d00d5 are a constant pain

- still no supply convoys, a video preview of which was shown way back before release in 2001

In June 2001, I'd have given it 2.5/10 and one of those points was attributed to the usefulness of the CD as a beer-mat.

Last time I played I would have given it 4/10. Bugged to hell and twice as ugly.

Now I'd give it 7/10 - it's where it should have been back in 2001.
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Post by: ra on February 09, 2004, 11:18:15 AM: Burn the witch!!
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Post by: MC_Honky on February 09, 2004, 11:18:40 AM: And what do you give AHI and AHII?

AHI - 5/10

AHII- 1/10
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Dowding on February 09, 2004, 11:20:53 AM: AHI - I've played it to death, my current score would be jaded in light of that fact. Put it this way, I don't hold an account anymore...

AHII - isn't finished, but looks very promising.
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Post by: Makarov9 on February 09, 2004, 12:19:32 PM: I'm also enjoying the heck out of WWIIOL (blasphemer!). The tanking is what's really enjoyable for me. Trying to get through that tough German front armor with my Frenchy tank is a real challenge. I love the combined arms approach that must be used to succeed in combat. Got to have the infantry to kill those damn sappers.

I agree about the sounds Dowding. Very immersive in 5.1. Also playing in a squad increases the enjoyment 10-fold.
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Post by: MC_Honky on February 09, 2004, 12:30:03 PM: Does flying make a difference? I mean- here the whole war thing is a bit forced-taking map rooms and all. In WWII-online can you bomb and strafe troops and vehicles and make a difference in the game?
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Makarov9 on February 09, 2004, 12:35:31 PM: Oh yes. Damn Stuka's and 110's are always hounding us. Air cover is a must in this game. Air power can really turn a battle. I've flown a couple of times and find the flight engine, different from AH, but in a whole pretty good. I'm really enjoying the ground pounding part though.
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Post by: Nefarious on February 09, 2004, 12:39:39 PM: Is it possible to play it on 56k?

I bought it when it first came out, And it was unplayable for me, but I have since bought a new computer, which is leaps and bounds above my older system.

Problem still remains I am on a 56k modem. Broadband is still not available in my location.

I also saw it at Big Lots Players something package not to long ago, $4.99 heh.
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Post by: Makarov9 on February 09, 2004, 12:42:10 PM: Daddog is playing on a 56K and using Teamspeak at the same time. He seems to do just fine.
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Post by: Maniac on February 09, 2004, 12:44:48 PM: I did the free trial... the ground war was fun but not enough fun for me to pay for it...

In a year or so maybe i will shell out money for it...
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Nefarious on February 09, 2004, 12:44:54 PM: What kind of system does he have?
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Post by: Makarov9 on February 09, 2004, 12:52:39 PM: He has a 2600+ Athlon, 512MB ram, Ti-4200 vid.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Nefarious on February 09, 2004, 01:49:40 PM: Well I got a P4 1.7, 512mb, Nvidia Geforce 2 Mx.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: acepilot2 on February 09, 2004, 01:58:50 PM: Been doing the free trial. I am having a blast. Flying sucks, simple as that, but infantry is alot of fun. I would definately recommend it. Knowing my historic facts about the early WWII (1939-1940) I instantly signed up for the superior axis forces.

Makarov, j0u r g0nn4 g3t pwn3d by t3h ub3r ax1s!! French r t3h suxx0rz!!!

;)
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Post by: Makarov9 on February 09, 2004, 02:05:30 PM: Nefarious, you should be fine with those stats. With 512MB you will get some disk caching when you first start but it should be fine after that. I have 1GB ram and I get no HD caching except for 5 secs at start.

Acepilot2, my lil' Hotchkiss will spank your hiney with some 37mm lovin'. Yea, French r t3h suxx0rz!!! But I like playing the underdog. :)
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Post by: LePaul on February 09, 2004, 02:38:22 PM: The ground war has interested me, any cool screen shots?
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Russian on February 09, 2004, 04:32:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by LePaul
The ground war has interested me, any cool screen shots?

Check this thread http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?threadid=19389

I’m enjoying my free trial. I might pay for it after trail end.

SimF775; Allied French PFC defending Thainville.
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Post by: Batz on February 09, 2004, 04:49:39 PM: wwiiol has gotten better and there are moments of fun but it gets old fast. You would think with all the things it has to offer it would keep your attention.

I kept a paid account over a year from 1st pay to play, then I quit, resubbed, quit, resubbed, quit. I just recently quit again. There's just to much down time. Whenever I resub there are moments where I would think "Yeah, this fun" only to be like "yawn" a few days later.
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Post by: thrila on February 09, 2004, 05:37:12 PM: Maybe if there was some customer support i could get ww2ol to work and see for myself.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Maniac on February 09, 2004, 05:44:53 PM: Quote
but it gets old fast.

Yep... at the end of the trial i did not login and play much... was fun the first week... i guess you need to join a squad or something to keep interest up...
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Post by: SunKing on February 09, 2004, 06:26:01 PM: " Knowing my historic facts about the early WWII (1939-1940) I instantly signed up for the superior axis forces. "

I wonder how many people really do run to the axis..

would love to see the numbers online and see how lopsided it is.
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Post by: Vulcan on February 09, 2004, 06:33:13 PM: Only problem with that Sunking is the Allies get a '43 tank to fight the super axis 'pre-40' tanks.
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Post by: Sixpence on February 09, 2004, 08:42:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SunKing
" Knowing my historic facts about the early WWII (1939-1940) I instantly signed up for the superior axis forces. "

I wonder how many people really do run to the axis..

would love to see the numbers online and see how lopsided it is.

I have been playing the axis side for about a week, and I would have to give the advantage to the allies. The spits1's are far superior to the 109e. The spits are just as fast and turn on a dime, the 109's can't even dive away from them. There is the 109F for those who have rank enough to fly them, but the allies have Spit5's and HurcIIc's for their high rank pilots. The allies have the edge in bombers too. I believe early in the war, the axis had a #'s advantage in planes, that isn't the case in WW2online. So the air advantage goes to the allies.

However, there are no enmy GV icons, so spotting enmy GV's is very hard. You have to fly right on the deck to spot them.

The GV model is great, but the best tank the axis have is the Panz IV D, and if an A13 gets the first shot, he can take you out, so can the matilda. I believe the axis will fair better once they bring in the tiger tank.

Camping out on defense seems to be a popular thing, but I have seen organized squads go on the offensive and be quite effective.

Sapped my first tank the other day, that was fun. People get together to sap tanks, one will fire his rifle at the tank to get it's attention, then the others will run in from behind and attach the charges.

I agree, the game has got alot better, enough to pay to play it, but there is room for improvement. If you like flying, it's not bad if you fly the allies, it's alot tougher if you are the axis. The allied planes fair much better on the deck....where they are needed.

Like Dowd says, the sounds are great, was sapping in the middle of a night tank battle, couldn't stop saying wow.

Good game, but the flight model does not seem correct, and spits and hurcs are everywhere. For every 109 I see, I see 10 spits or hurcs. Which was the opposite at the start of WW2. I imagine I don't see 109's because they are either staying high, or have been shot down. There are supply limits on the planes, when a plane gets shot down, it is three hours(this is what I have been told) before that unit is available again(so suicide runs are not beneficial, it is important to land the plane).

So if flight sim comes first for you, AH is by far the better game. But if you prefer the ground game, WW2online is the place to be.
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Post by: Vulcan on February 09, 2004, 09:58:21 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Sixpence
For every 109 I see, I see 10 spits or hurcs. Which was the opposite at the start of WW2. I imagine I don't see 109's because they are either staying high, or have been shot down. There are supply limits on the planes, when a plane gets shot down, it is three hours(this is what I have been told) before that unit is available again(so suicide runs are not beneficial, it is important to land the plane).

The problem is the axis fighter numbers are split between the 109E and the 110C. The 110C is such a pig it dies fairly quickly. So in effect the Axis get 1/2 the numbers of an effective plane. I think the number of frontline Allied fields is more as well, plus you go up against the mixed southern fields, which pits your (half sized) force of 109Es against H75s (easy to kill), D520s (not too hard to kill), Hurri I's (ammo spongers), and Spit Is (UFOs).

The types of vehicles available are fairly misrepresentitive of what you actually get your hands on as well. Their RDP system (which should be scraped IMHO) means that the its not unusual to go several months not being able to fly a Hurri II, 109F4, H81, etc (simply because they are not available at all in game).
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Post by: Octavius on February 09, 2004, 10:11:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by acepilot2
Been doing the free trial. I am having a blast. Flying sucks, simple as that, but infantry is alot of fun. I would definately recommend it. Knowing my historic facts about the early WWII (1939-1940) I instantly signed up for the superior axis forces.

Makarov, j0u r g0nn4 g3t pwn3d by t3h ub3r ax1s!! French r t3h suxx0rz!!!

;)

Your historic facts are innacurate :)

The French/BEF and the Germans were fairly even in numbers.
[b]Relative Strength[/b]
. France Britain Totals Germany
Divs 104 15 152 135
Arty 10,700 1,280 13,974 7,378
A/C 3,562 1,246 4,981 3,369
Tanks 3,254 640 4,204 2,493

*Only 278 were Pz IV

Numbers relatively close. Total superiority to Germany? Not quite there. Better planning/preparation/execution? Yep.

Technical superiority, French tanks were better than German in some respects. But they lacked any internal comms or tank-to-tank comms. Disorganized.

There's a boatload of other info I could go on about, but I don't feel like writing an essay :)
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Post by: Fishu on February 09, 2004, 10:26:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Sixpence
The GV model is great, but the best tank the axis have is the Panz IV D, and if an A13 gets the first shot, he can take you out, so can the matilda. I believe the axis will fair better once they bring in the tiger tank.

Theres already french stuarts, crusaders, enough plentiful matildas, kick bellybutton allied armoured cars and P39s...
....but no Pak38 or tungsten core ammo for 37mm guns and generous amounts of Bf110s vs. Bf109, which makes me wonder.
37mm PzGr.40 and Pak38 would be just fine, without the need for Tigers.

SdKfz 251 is an RDP item for some wicked poor excuse :mad:

IRL compared allied mud mowers are going around mid 42', while axis is late '40 :confused:
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Post by: YUCCA on February 10, 2004, 12:25:06 AM: wwiiol customer support made me way to mad to return.
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Post by: AKWeav on February 10, 2004, 05:22:40 AM: ww2ol has customer support?:rofl
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Post by: Sixpence on February 10, 2004, 06:51:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by YUCCA
wwiiol customer support made me way to mad to return.

HTC is great. No automated answer. Small group of employees and they all answer the phone, even the owner.

The built-in vox is another good feature with AH. WW2online has a Teamspeak server, but you never know who is saying what. With AH it flashes the name of the person who spoke, and that comes in very handy when you only have a few seconds to make a decision. I know sometimes people lose their vox, but it is worth it, imo. You even have a "check 6" key in case your vox fails(another thing that ww2online needs, big time).

Even though I am not thrilled with the flight model of ww2online, it is more realistic as far as flying the plane. The views are limited, and you have to manage your engine temp(I like that). They seem to consider stress too, you can hear your 110 snap, crackle & pop.
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Post by: Dowding on February 10, 2004, 07:11:35 AM: I've not had to use customer support but it would be nice to know it is there if required.

The one thing that is great about WW2OL is being involved in mass attacks, both as defender and attacker. The other day I spawned as a sapper and ran to where I could hear tank engine sounds, but before I got there the sound contact was lost. I took up a position behind a hedge row with a few other guys and one AT gun. Suddenly, the engines could be heard again - several of them and getting louder. In front of us was an open field with a tree line and hedge row at the other side - through this broke six German tanks in line formation speeding towards our position. The AT gun had been firing sporadically before but now it pretty much fired constantly, brewing up one of the smaller Axis tanks before being overcome by return fire and destroyed. It was very much like a film. The riflemen and SMGers among us fell back leaving just me and this other sapper at the hedge. The tanks stopped about 15 yards in front of the hedge, and wheeled right into the town. A truck packed with Axis infantry had been reported approaching from the North and the tanks must have gone off in support of them. One pz 38T tank stayed behind though, spraying the church tower with MG fire. I dashed from my hedge, using a couple trees to mask my approach, attached a satchel to the tank's rear before diving behind a bunker thing. The explosion didn't seem to do any damage, so I repeated the satchel thing as the tank's turret swung wildly trying to pinpoint me. This time it worked, the turret stopped moving and th guy despawned. Unfortunately, I hadn't spotted the German infantry at the other side of the field, who took me out as I tried to get back into the town.

It really has its moments.
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Post by: Fishu on February 19, 2004, 12:15:38 PM: After a longer while went to try WWIIOL.. generally the action is more entertaining and unique than in many other games, but the something which for I stopped playing the game, is the somewhat glaring ally bias from CRS.
Few cases are quite obvious, which for I really can't find any other reasons which would be likely..

and the reason for this is obvious: money.
If allies would be put against the axis with all the pros and cons of a "matching" equiptment, many of them would simply unsubscribe. (huge whine from facing IIIH alone, which is far easier to kill than many of the basic allied tanks and with a cannon which is hardly much better than 2pdr vs. any other axis tank except IIIH)
under the current situation however, allies do have an equiptment advantage of one year to two years.
From reading the news, it also seems to be that way with the future additions.

General reasons floating around seems to be summing up into some sort of "play balance" (a short adjective to describe it...)

After the first RDP round, the other than PzIIIH's are pretty much useless against allied armour, when everything is stuarts crusaders s35 chars..
Of course IIIF and 38t could kill those, but when talking of that what "effectiveness" in the war means, those are ineffective without a good numbers advantage.... which again is an another big grief for many allies if it happens to be true! :rolleyes:

It's funny though.. if an axis player complains of being unable to kill some axis tanks in a panzer X, allies have tend to reply by saying he should flank them and hit the sweet spots.
When allies were put to same situation against IIIH's, it was quite alot of whining. (and yet alot easier..)

Overall... all good if I keep out of the tanks, since those are just frustrating if I don't have the hour to spend in a bush to wait for some ally tank to drive by with its side exposed and still have the significant possibility to fail.
Even if its just me saying, I'd say I am a pretty good tanker (with plentiful of experience), but I just don't want to always play with the much higher tactical expectations than the enemies.

So.. infantry, AA-guns, flak36 (I'd use Pak38 much more, if it'd exist), he111, DD and PzIIIH goes fine...

I've also renamed PAK36 to IAK36... aka Infanterie Abwehr Kanone (aka anti-infantry cannon), since it surely isnt an anti-tank cannon with its uber sights and lack of power.
Sometimes good zoom can be a bad thing... especially when you have a gun which is only effective at close range. (try to find the target when you see only a miniscular part of the terrain near you!)
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Post by: Makarov9 on February 19, 2004, 12:31:41 PM: Being an allied tanker I have a totally different view from what you posted. So many times I've been frustrated with putting 10 rounds into a Panzer with no effect and being one-shot killed by the same panzer. Brit armor is paper thin and a pain in the arse to play in. Definetly got to use the speed for flanking shots. French armor, though a little better is still inferior to most German tanks.

Overall though I'm still loving the ground war and especially the armor duels. I think both sides are pretty well balanced and makes for some great battles.
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Post by: Swager on February 19, 2004, 01:39:53 PM: I finally broke down and am in the 2 week trial.

Initially I signed up but never went online and my 2 weeks passed. I wrote to CR and it took them awhile, but they reset my 2 week trial.

The game is nerve racking and gets my blood up, like AH used to. I do like it.

I have logged onto AH for about 1.5 hours this month. The excitement is just not there anymore.

I'll probably stick with AH due to I am a flying type of guy, but I do like the WWIIOL ground pounding!

:)
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Post by: Vulcan on February 19, 2004, 02:36:14 PM: Bad time to try WW2OL for flying Swager, CRS have practically loaded the Axis plane guns with nerfballs. 20mm is 'bugged', the Panhard is the Panchar again.... hell, you know its bad when hardcore WW2OL squadies start asking me "where do I download Aces High from?".

But like you the AH MA just doesn't entertain me like it used to (HT/Pyro hurry up with ToD). WW2OL - albeit the crappiest piece of coding known to mankind - is entertaining.
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Post by: Fishu on February 19, 2004, 02:51:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Makarov9
Being an allied tanker I have a totally different view from what you posted. So many times I've been frustrated with putting 10 rounds into a Panzer with no effect and being one-shot killed by the same panzer. Brit armor is paper thin and a pain in the arse to play in. Definetly got to use the speed for flanking shots. French armor, though a little better is still inferior to most German tanks.

Overall though I'm still loving the ground war and especially the armor duels. I think both sides are pretty well balanced and makes for some great battles.

Unfortunately that is my experience only on freak occasions, unless driving PzIIIH.

Anyway, if brit armour would be paper thin, that would make Panzer armour air thin ;)

Matilda is the best armoured thing on the game.

A13 is quite good also, for its speed, cannon and camoflage, which is a threat to any panzer within 1km (excluding IIIH front)
(2pdr begins to be a considerable threat to IIIH begining from 500 meters and from within 200 meters very much so)
It is the fastest tank on- and offroad if Stuart isn't faster.
From what I've used A13, I'd say many allies are underrating it seriously.
At least until PzIIIH armour begins to be a stantard.. but before PzIIIH is introduced and if IIIH comes out of RDP in low numbers, the A13 is much more considerable threat than say Pz38t. (matilda & crusader really makes other than PzIIIH alot weaker, even if theres A13's.. since Matilda & Crusader makes it possible for weaker tanks to advance)

Daimler is probably the best vehicle in the game.. I have few times killed nearly all spawnable tanks from towns all alone, with ease :D
(It's been easier alone when there is no noise from friendly units, only the enemies)

Perhaps one of the funnest units is QF 2pdr, it feels like a real AT-gun - being small, green and at close range definately killing everything, while at medium range only IIIH might survive)

Maybe I should start a career as allied... everytime been funner tanking / AT-gunning.
Although fellow finns probably wouldn't like it ;)
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Post by: daddog on February 19, 2004, 03:29:30 PM: I am actually playing on a 26k connect. Yes I have a 56k modem, but the best I can log on up here in the sticks is 26k.

Having a blast in WWIIOL. Best part about it is most of my squad is too. :) http://www.332nd.org/wwiiroster.htm

Quote
I've not had to use customer support but it would be nice to know it is there if required.
It's not.
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Post by: Dowding on February 20, 2004, 01:03:17 AM: My experience of allied tanking (exclusively playing British) is that we have nothing to counter the German panzers. That 2 pounder gun is crap - crap optics and lots of dispersion, encased in egg shell armour make toe to toe engagements largely a waste of time. The Matilda is better, but is available in such low numbers compared to the PzIIIH, as to be irrelevant. I've had some luck in the crusader, but that was only through a very fortunate ambush. It still has the crappy armour of the A13.

The strength of the BEF was in its infantry and AT guns. It's a shame we don't have that option.
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Post by: Fishu on February 20, 2004, 02:35:50 AM: So the panzers are just dying on their own, roger that. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Dowding on February 20, 2004, 02:59:05 AM: I don't see them dying, I see them pushing back the British. When the BEF goes on the offensive, the armour has to face 88s and is engaged long before coming into effective range. The frontal armour on the A13, the most readily available tank, is crap. As soon as the attack is discovered (if we're lucky that will be near the town and not by a random LW plane some distance from it), the Stukas appear and take out our armour with the highly historical 50ft bomb drops. The Matilda stands no chance against the mighty stuka. So typically we are on the defensive, and only if we have numerical advantage and plenty of AT guns can we hope to stem the tide. The 88mm has an invisible shield in front of it, made out of 100mm titanium. I was point blank next to one shooting everything my little Crusader could fire at the crew and everything else, and it simply rotated, fired and destroyed me. It turns out that the crew are only vulnerable if you shoot their feet! Wonderful modelling wouldn't you say?

I wouldn't mind so much if the Stuka was also modelled accurately - i.e. automatic dive system with 3000ft pull out. Right now, the LW is practically armed with LGBs.
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Post by: Sixpence on February 20, 2004, 05:01:42 AM: Dowding: "the Stukas appear and take out our armour with the highly historical 50ft bomb drops. "
If they make it by the 15 spits and hurcs.
Dowding: "The 88mm has an invisible shield in front of it, made out of 100mm titanium. I was point blank next to one shooting everything my little Crusader could fire at the crew and everything else, and it simply rotated, fired and destroyed me."
Well, I can tell you from experience that an allied tank(even an armoured car)can cap an FB from a good distance. They may be shooting at my feet, but they are killing me fairly easy. Enemy infantry take me out,lol, enemy sappers love finding an 88! I'll give you this, the 88 is the best DEFENSIVE tank killer(aside from allied bombers)in the game. But once you are discovered, it's only a matter of time before a Havoc or a Blen takes you down. I managed to kill 2 a15's and a vickers once, but a Havoc got me. He knew right where I was, first pass(obviously infantry spotting me). Even if a bofors is with you the bomber always gets off that first salvo(and usually two or three more). Under 5k the allies rule the sky, so the 88's are not a problem. The bofors, on the other hand, are more problematic. I have ruined many an allied plane day in a bofors(and had my 110 taken down with one hit).
Dowding: "The frontal armour on the A13, the most readily available tank, is crap."
Yes, but my P4(only had one a few times because it is rarely available) has been taken out by an a13, so it can do the job. What the allies don't do is crew their tanks to take advantage of the Christie suspension system. It gives them a steady firing platform on the move. Having a crew in a tank is good, but in the a13 and a15, it's better. And it keeps you from getting sapped.

Have you tried the naval part of the game yet? Was involved in an amphibious assault on Veere. About 20 of us boarded a destroyer from another port, we arrived at Veere to see three friendly destroyers suppressing enmy infantry(no tanks or equipment away from mainland). As he dropped us off along the shoreline, all four destroyers opened up their big guns for cover. It was awesome!! The ground was shaking, I can only imagine what it was like for the enemy infantry taking cover in the spawn building. We all made it to the buildings and got a couple of cp's, but enmy infantry managed to get out the back of the spawn building and fend us off. The battle was a good 45 minutes, and alot of fun.
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Post by: Dowding on February 20, 2004, 05:34:37 AM: Obviously, I can only go on what I have seen with my own eyes. The 88mm was untouched by the MG and shell fire, and then it killed me. Things like that stop WW2OL becoming a great game.

Firing on the move? Have you tried it in the A13 with the two pounder? It's bad enough stationary but with the sight wheeling about at it's practically impossible. The Christie suspension system doesn't seem to help much at all.

The naval aspect is something I haven't tried yet. By most accounts the DDs are porked and there is a big issue with DDs popping in and out of vision. It does look cool though. It's a shame they can't spend a little more time on that aspect.
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Post by: Staga on February 20, 2004, 07:30:37 AM: Dowding cut the crap and play a german tanker for a day or two.
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Post by: Sarge on September 05, 2004, 09:13:33 AM: well it is sep now seen many posts here from FEB, how many are playing on ww2 online. there are a few of us from the 332mongrels playing sat nights, I enjoy it since it is only a game and and so is AH if you just like to furball every sorties this is fine. i like the overall play (land sea and air) . i can chose what i want, Finding action isnt really that hard as some are saying. if y0u have a few guys to attack a depot. in time you will have more action that you can handle. taking a fire base can be fun too once the enemy knows what you are doing finding action is easy. Do wish chat system was like ah but with team speak you can survive in Squad action.

there is another free promo on now for anyone that would like to try it that hasnt done so for a while. It has been getting better since i first bought game when it came out. the trees and water are far better then AH. and alot more is comming out soon in the next patach. like blowing up bridges and repairing them,

I stick with AH right now cause i am in a fantastic sqd with alot of fun guys (go 332 Flying Mongrels) but did tire of upping getting shot down ( and yes i had kills too, in case i see the learn to fly guys posting)or rtbing then repeat over and over and over. Squad nights are great and CAP was great, MA CT are about the same fuballs but CT is on a smaller scale of furballing, jan will be 3 yrs in 332, also the 332 Vikings i fly with during cap are a fun groop to fly with.. When i had the time i used to fly with them on thier Sqd nights on sundays. other than that is is only a game and AH needs just as many improvements as any other game, so all games are equal to bugs and improvements. it is the PC world and it is all buggy one way or another. furballers will never like gvs and the up anything kind of player dont like furballing all the time so it is to each his own in gaming. flaming posts cause you dont agree isnt that great either
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Meatwad on September 05, 2004, 09:24:54 AM: Been playing WW2OL since end of August. I like it a lot, more variety then AH. Only logged into AH once since then, and that was only for a few minutes.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Ripsnort on September 05, 2004, 09:27:27 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Meatwad
Been playing WW2OL since end of August. I like it a lot, more variety then AH. Only logged into AH once since then, and that was only for a few minutes.

Well now, then thats a fair analysis, isn't it? You logged in for a few minutes, therefore WW2OL MUST be more fun!

:lol
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: lazs2 on September 05, 2004, 09:56:42 AM: did dowding admit he liked it before or after he admitted he was gay (not that there is anything wrong with that)?

lazs
Title: Re: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 05, 2004, 10:06:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Wow that was difficult.

Problems:

- tree-climbing sn1p3r d00d5 are a constant pain

.

Havent played the game yet.
But if memory serves correct. Isnt tht pretty much the same feeling they had about em in real life too?
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 05, 2004, 10:34:22 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Obviously, I can only go on what I have seen with my own eyes. The 88mm was untouched by the MG and shell fire, and then it killed me. Things like that stop WW2OL becoming a great game.

Firing on the move? Have you tried it in the A13 with the two pounder? It's bad enough stationary but with the sight wheeling about at it's practically impossible. The Christie suspension system doesn't seem to help much at all.

Again I've not played the game but not for nuthin, since when was firing on the move supposed to be easy?
Most of the timew when firing on the move they were putting down area fire and not trying to shoot at exact points

sounds to me like firing on the move is probably modeled realisitcally if thats the problem
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Ripsnort on September 05, 2004, 10:34:55 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Sarge1

why you would say that rip i dont know.

I was speaking to meatwad, see my post above, and the quote.
Title: Re: Re: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Fishu on September 05, 2004, 10:46:22 AM: Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Havent played the game yet.
But if memory serves correct. Isnt tht pretty much the same feeling they had about em in real life too?

Except the new trees aren't climbable anymore
Well, you might be able to wank yourself off against a tree but you ain't gonna shoot from up there.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Sarge1 on September 05, 2004, 10:47:46 AM: lol sorry i must of went past that.. hmmm being 50 and having senior moments are comming more frequent than last year. so i retracted that. deleted post. But did enjoy your missions though. they were fun and sometimes really crazy, even the time you left me to go eat dinner when we were sitting behind a hill gv camping and asked me to watch out for enemy, and the time we went noe across the ocean to a base just to run into another noe from the base we were attacking to attack the base we left from, those were funny. the 15 c47s dropping on an base still active with 150 little troopers floating down and we took it. since they coulndt kill all of them, Missions like that are rare now.

so sorry for misreading post
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Ripsnort on September 05, 2004, 10:56:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Sarge1
lol sorry i must of went past that.. hmmm being 50 and having senior moments are comming more frequent than last year. so i retracted that. deleted post. But did enjoy your missions though. they were fun and sometimes really crazy, even the time you left me to go eat dinner when we were sitting behind a hill gv camping and asked me to watch out for enemy, and the time we went noe across the ocean to a base just to run into another noe from the base we were attacking to attack the base we left from, those were funny. the 15 c47s dropping on an base still active with 150 little troopers floating down and we took it. since they coulndt kill all of them, Missions like that are rare now.

so sorry for misreading post

Yes, great times Sarge! I remember them quite well. When the Seattle rains begin again this winter, I may have to start using my gaming computer for what it was built for again!
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Staga on September 05, 2004, 11:18:56 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Well now, then thats a fair analysis, isn't it? You logged in for a few minutes, therefore WW2OL MUST be more fun!

:lol

Guy said he's been playing WWIIOL much more than AH lately and said he also likes it a lot. I really can't see what's your problem here. Quit being a jerk.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Meatwad on September 05, 2004, 12:11:27 PM: All I said that after playing AH over a year now it has gotten boring. I have had more fun in a week in WW2OL then playing AH for the past few months. My post clearly states that I have more fun in WW2OL then in AH, therefore I dont see a point to log in all the time.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: Sixpence on September 05, 2004, 12:24:28 PM: Saw three ltars sapping a matilda last night, I asked if they were the ones from AH, they were.
Title: WW2OL is Fun
Post by: DEMAN on September 05, 2004, 01:02:43 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Well now, then thats a fair analysis, isn't it? You logged in for a few minutes, therefore WW2OL MUST be more fun!

:lol

SO... what exactly is your problem RS?
Can't read...? Can't understand what it is you are reading?? or just like to bully others in a forum cause you can't find any flies to rip the wings off? Get a life.