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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SC-GreyBeard on December 28, 2000, 04:08:00 AM
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dying to repeated 1 ping kills?????
PT boat, f4f comes in shallow abeam, hear 2 pings.. died (blew up from a single 50 round???) on 1st ping, was in tower for second one,
again, PT boat, again, spitfire coming head on shallow, 1 ping total... death by explosion. (and it was a 303 ping sound at that.)
several sorties where I heard a gazillion pings, while sitting in the tower because 1st ping blew me up.
Tank,, same thing but with a p38, 2 pings total, 1 dead, second I'm in the tower when I hear the second.
Not real impressed at this point in time with the navy stuff.
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GreyBeard, Squadron Leader
Commander, "B" Flight, Aces High
Senior Staff Council
"The Skeleton Crew"
"Fly with Honor"[/i]
"Keepin' the Faith"
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I've been killed by a Zeke while I was in a Panzer. Since I was manning the external 7mm I guess (and I hope) it was a pilot kill.
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Not to be a jerk but dont the f4, spit and 38 all have one thing in common?? hint hint
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GRUN,
close that can of worms and put it back in the store-room (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Grunz.. he said "f4f" not F4. Gonna go with him meaning hellcat there. With .50's.
He also mentioned dying after a .303 ping. Yes, you can tell the difference.
Nice attempt at bringing the cannon whine into yet another thread though.
AKDejaVu
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Sounds to me like perhaps a conn issue GB, if an Aircraft is firing at you, you are getting hit likely alot more than 1x per audible ping. If your conn is abit laggy, u may not hear as many as the shooter hits.
Perhaps the Zeke egged u gatt
AKskurj
[This message has been edited by SKurj (edited 12-28-2000).]
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Zeke's bombs (even the 50kg) are great for panzers and pt boats. Had a blast vehicle hunting in it in 1.04, now having the same in 1.05 with pt boats.
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) thx.... bow turn bow
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Understand that SKurj, Happens all the time.
On occassion, I've seen the dastardly bugger flying away from me before I explode (while in a tank or Osti, never survived long enuf in a PT to know). (accompanied by a gazillion pings before AND afterwards also, sometimes for as long as 10 seconds)
Only once I survived more than the 1st ping last night in a PT boat. And I managed to get 4 torps off and sank a CV.. (I think, I was dead in the tower when I saw the damage message)
I have YET to see any damage turn red on my boat before exploding..
And not all my deaths were by the same person, and I KNOW not everyone is that accurate with their gunnery
seems just 1 ping and wowie,, explosion time.
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GreyBeard, Squadron Leader
Commander, "B" Flight, Aces High
Senior Staff Council
"The Skeleton Crew"
"Fly with Honor"[/i]
"Keepin' the Faith"
[This message has been edited by SC-GreyBeard (edited 12-28-2000).]
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Well I've only killed 3 or 4 PT boats and I'm pretty sure they only heard one ping from the FIVE INCH CANNON SHELL BLOWING THEM INTO THE NEXT DIMENSION!!!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Stow those fuel drums below, Mister!!
Cobra
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all my deaths with the possible exception of 1 have been from fighters.
and on the one I actually got close enuff to launch all 4 torps at a CV,, while in the tower afterwards I got a "ship destroyed" message.... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
and I'm still dying to 1 ping from f6f's 50 cal ammo (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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I once had the misfortune of seeing what just one .50 cal. will do to a human body. It was amazing, in a macabre way. Rest assured, one is all it takes.
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I know what shells do to a human body...even larger than a 50 cal.
what I'm PO'd about is the 95% of the time my PT boat gets hit, it's exploding on 1st ping..
95% of the pilots in this sim are not THAT good at gunnery yet, where it should be happening....
I have yet, (after a good 20-25 runs in pt boat) seen any damage other than explosion after 1st ping..
I've NOT had guns put out of action, engine damaged, nuthing, nada, zip,..
The very few times I HAVE survived a gun pass from any plane, I've showed no damage either... from any plane including a f4u..
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I've taken hits in a PT from other boats, I was being pursued by 2 the other night, I had lost 1 engine and it was only luck that permitted me to get them first (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Only times a fighter has attacked my boat.. the boat got turned into splinters
AKskurj
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When you are shooting you see a lot of sparkles when you really paste the target. However, the host is only updated like 4 times a second. That means that a lot of those hits are all sent to the host at the same time. The guy getting hit clearly does not hear a separate and distinct sound for each sparkle that the firer sees. One ping sound to a target may be many many hits to a shooter.
Hooligan
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Grey, I was already damaged and continued sailing on in a PT after a Chog pass. Like someone said, it might be a connix problem. Also, be advised that Bombs just do a "Ping" sometimes, instead of a "Crack !"
Cheers,
Saw
(Swabbie (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
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As someone who has killed or attempted to kill quite a few PT's in an F6F, I can tell you it takes a good deal more than one .50 cal hit to take one out. The best I have done is to kill one in a single pass, but I was slow and I put at least a 2 second burst into the PT from bow to stern. Most other times it takes me 2 or 3 passes to get one with the 6x.50's. I also recal seeing smoke from a PT I had damaged who kept going, although he obviosly had problems and an oil leak.
I reccomend you try killing PT's with a .50 cal plane and see the thing from the other side of the coin. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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"A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
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hmm well 1st, when I was attacked by a tbm, 1 ping and I blew up,, several other pings were heard after I was in the tower.
1 ping deaths from 303 rounds. (at least 3 times)
won't even go into how long hits from 20mm lasts after I'm in tower...
I have yet to experience ANY damaged components from ANYTHING....even though I survived a gun run...(and took a good 5 seconds of constant ping sounds...)
and if my connect was that bad I wouldn't be getting the prolonged ping sounds after I'm in the tower.
the few times I've tried to sink a PT I've died miserably, while watching mutiple hit sprites on my target, (which didn't die, and claimed no damge taken). And I fly nothing BUT the F4u-1c, or bombers. exclusively
As it stands currently,, if my PT boat is hit at all by guns, (plane guns of any size) it explodes immediately following the 1st ping..
with very very few exceptions. (I'm not counting ships guns or bomb drops here at all. and yes, I've survived them, also with no damage showing on my PT)
I'm also discounting the "plane overhead" since they very well could be bomb deaths.
I'm talking about straffing planes 700-1200 yds out.
something just ain't right.
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I've done alot of strafing PT boats in 1.05 in my P47, and I disagree with the 1 ping deaths.... The guys that ive blown up have gotten hit by at least 50 .50cal hits (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Ive also seen some that ive come in and strafe, because i couldnt stay with them as long, just lose engines and such...
And anytime ive been killed, which is many, its always cause the killers have gotten solid hits.
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Kronos
CO No. 272 Squadron "Whispering Death"
http://members.home.net/wchiasson/no272/
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Greybeard it sounds like you have connect issues.
When you are getting pings after you are dead like that, it just means that the damage packets are taking longer to get to you than the host expects. Although they are "out of synch", you didn't really die from "one ping", you died from all the pings you heard... even if you didn't hear them until you were in the tower.
Have you tried the alternate route? I have much better luck with it. To use the alt route instead of choosing the main arena, choose the "Alt Route Verio" arena. It says it is closed, but it is not, it is actually the alternate route to the main arena.
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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
A member of The Flying Pigs http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)
"A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
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GB,
Didn't you have a similar problem in DOA?
Maybe its a connection issue.
Regards,
Wab
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Wab, Sorta, but that WAS a soundcard problem,
(SB PCI128 in a 450)..
this is on a complete new system.
Intell 933, Asus CUSL2 MoBo, 256meg PC133 Ram, ProphetII GTS Pro 64ddr, SB Live Platunum w/DTT2200 Spkrs. 19" Monitor running 1600X1200 32 bit ingame. USR 56k V90 everything on a dialup. (solid 28.8 dialup, both netmedic, and ping plotter 99% of the time show NO packet loss etc. DSL and cable not yet availible to me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) )
I have tried the alternate route and pretty much get the same results from plotter etc.
Seems kinda odd that in a Plane or vehicle, or from other PTs, I can generally take a lot of hits from the smaller calibers before blowing,,, but in a PT, it's 99% of the time I'm back in the tower after 1 ping.
and it's odd that nuthing gets damaged (on the PT's only) and nothing goes red prior or after a gun run.
Ah well.
Thx Guys for your input.
Guess all the flyers out there are perfect shots 99% of the time when I'm in a pt...or maybe I'm just collecting a LOT of golden bb's... Fek.