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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ping on February 12, 2004, 08:21:36 AM
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http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/02/12/china040212
Finally the answer to Canada's Political Problems :)
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So, theft punishable by death is okay in your book?
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Not really. Something does really have to be done about the rampant corruption in poiticians tho.
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Sure would seem to nail repeat offenes...
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Originally posted by Ping
Not really. Something does really have to be done about the rampant corruption in poiticians tho.
Agreed.
But lets question why China chooses to use an iron fist? I mean, we use capital punishment for a person who commits pre-meditated aggravated 1st degree murdered, but why theft?
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What I have been led to believe is that China always tended to go towards extremes with judicial punishments. I know nothing of this case other than the link I posted.
There may be more to this then we are reading.
Other than that if its just theft then I would go for complete re-imbursement and incarceration.
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Imagine what our political landscape would be like if we did the same thing here...
:D
Hmmm... maybe thats an idea!
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So, theft punishable by death is okay in your book?
Erm Taking bribes isn't theft - it's corruption.
The Chinese government has been taking a harder and harder line on officials indulging in corruption - which is fairly rampant, and growing worse since economic growth went turbocharged and there's big money floating around.
This execution is probably "killing the chicken to frighten the monkey" as the phrase goes: an exemplary harsh punishment, to scare other officials into stopping their corrupt activities.
But there again we don't know what the bribes were for, so it's all a bit speculative. The bribes may have been to look the other way or help out while someone smuggles drugs or guns, starts up a child prostitution ring, kills a rival, does some mob deals, or whatever - we really don't know. So it maybe the death penalty is for what the bribes were for rather than the bribes themselves.
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I almost have to wonder what they did to get him to confess to a crime punishable by death.
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So what you are saying is: The high moral ground in Canada belongs to the highest bidder????
JK
:p ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So, theft punishable by death is okay in your book?
Thats what happens when you don't give your boss a cut of the action.
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I think taking bribes is treason, not just theft. When a politician uses his/her office position for a personal gain at the expense of public wellfare, that person is betraying his/her country and deserves to be executed ... preferebly with the dullest ax that can be found.
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10,000 executions a year:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040315/wl_afp/china_npc_executions_040315061433
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I am in favor of capital punishment for government officials convicted of soliciting or accepting bribes.
My feelings are also that a government official accepting a bribe is about more than just a small simple financial crime, it's about a breakdown of a society, a governement and a loss of integrity in a system. The implications and results are huge in the overall scheme of things.
This is a situation where knowledge of the punishment should and would certainly act as a deterant. For those stupid enough, greedy enough, or arrogant enough to accpet a bribe knowing the risk, their death would improve the gene pool anyway.
dago
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
So, theft punishable by death is okay in your book?
I'm in favor of death for theft, liars, child molestation and murderers. It's time for a kinder, gentler, world!
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Originally posted by Dago
I am in favor of capital punishment for government officials convicted of soliciting or accepting bribes.
My feelings are also that a government official accepting a bribe is about more than just a small simple financial crime, it's about a breakdown of a society, a governement and a loss of integrity in a system. The implications and results are huge in the overall scheme of things.
This is a situation where knowledge of the punishment should and would certainly act as a deterant. For those stupid enough, greedy enough, or arrogant enough to accpet a bribe knowing the risk, their death would improve the gene pool anyway.
dago
Oh, my !!!
Italy will remain without public officers.
;)
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Originally posted by gofaster
I almost have to wonder what they did to get him to confess to a crime punishable by death.
To save his wife and kid's maybee?
shamus
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China does this every few years or so. It seems to have 2 purposes:
1) To tell the rest of the world (in particular large western corporations) that China is fighting corruption.
2) To encourage the rest of the politicians to reign in their more obvious excesses.
Corruption is endemic in China, and is generally accepted as long as it is not too blatant.