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Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: FUNKED1 on February 12, 2004, 12:52:39 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1733645

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: MC_Honky on February 12, 2004, 12:55:48 PM

Old news..

What about that freak Mark McGuire ?

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: FUNKED1 on February 12, 2004, 01:03:25 PM

Mac was huge even when he first came up in 1986.  He hit 49 homers in 1987.  He was always a big slow power hitter.  He admitted to using creatine which is perfectly legal.  But it's not like there was ever a major change in his body type and he had massive power even as a rookie.

Bonds was pretty skinny and fast when he came up, with moderate power.  Then suddenly after he moves to SF he gets real burly and slow and his hitting 40 to 70 dongs a year.  Some of it is aging but for a guy to change his body type like that, and then his trainer is busted in a drug ring, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: john9001 on February 12, 2004, 01:04:53 PM

i'm crushed, all this time i thought they got so big an strong by clean living, eating wheaties, and working out at the gym.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Ripsnort on February 12, 2004, 01:25:17 PM

Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth...those were *real* baseball players.  Try to hit 61 HR's as an out of shape, drunkard like Ruth. ;)

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: gofaster on February 12, 2004, 01:34:58 PM

He should've contacted Bill Romanowski instead.  Bill knows all about better athletics through grey-market pharmaceuticals.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Reschke on February 12, 2004, 02:45:57 PM

McGuire had that linebacker type build when he first came on the scene in pro baseball. I have seen many people change their body type the same way that Bond's did but there is only one common factor in them all...injections, pills and liquids that "boost" your body in one fashion or another.

I thought it was funny that MLB didn't want to test for steroids all the time until a certain percentage of the players tested positive last year. Hell that is basically admitting that you have a bunch of players on the crap anyway.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Frogm4n on February 12, 2004, 02:50:40 PM

McGuire was a pioneer in steroid use in baseball. common guys the bash brothers were juiced up so much it wasnt funny.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: rpm on February 12, 2004, 03:01:56 PM

Bonds is a selfish, loudmouthed, illiterate, spongebrained freak that should be banned from baseball and his record revoked.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Frogm4n on February 12, 2004, 03:03:23 PM

You sound like a dodger fan.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Samiam on February 12, 2004, 03:35:41 PM

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Originally posted by john9001
i'm crushed, all this time i thought they got so big an strong by clean living, eating wheaties, and working out at the gym.

I'm crushed. All this time I thought baseball was just a silly, mind numbingly boring sport for psuedo athletes. Now to discover that it is corrupt with gambling and performance enhancers, well, it's too much.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: midnight Target on February 12, 2004, 06:19:55 PM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth...those were *real* baseball players.  Try to hit 61 HR's as an out of shape, drunkard like Ruth. ;)

Uhh, Ruth never hit 61.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Lizking on February 12, 2004, 08:00:14 PM

Try to hit 61 HR's as an out of shape, drunkard like Ruth

That is why they are Great, Rip, because they could excell, without hardly trying.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Frogm4n on February 12, 2004, 08:08:50 PM

bah, bonds is still my favorite player. For the simple fact that he is great, and he pisses the media off. Which is a ALWAYS a good thing.

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: Bodhi on February 12, 2004, 08:48:47 PM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth...those were *real* baseball players.  Try to hit 61 HR's as an out of shape, drunkard like Ruth. ;)

Gotta love the Babe's lifestyle!!!

:D

Title: Put a big asterisk by Bonds' career.
Post by: MC_Honky on February 13, 2004, 08:03:31 AM

McGuire was a skinny kid when he came up.   Linebacker ..LOL.  You don't know anything about baseball my friend.

McGuire had the physical symptoms of steroid use- acne (at 37 years of age), hair loss etc..  If you think he wan't juicing- your a fool.

Nobdy hits 70 hr's without chemical help.  Sorry.


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