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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on February 12, 2004, 05:03:39 PM
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Want to know where the Bush Administration's loyalty lies? It's not with American workers.
Monday the chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, N. Gregory Mankiw, commented on the practice of American companies' farming out production and services to low-wage countries like China and Mexico.
"Outsourcing is a growing phenomenon, but it's something that we should realize is probably a plus for the economy in the long run," Mr. Mankiw told reporters.
The reaction to those remarks was immediate and unfavorable — and has not gone away.
"The Bush administration said that sending American jobs overseas is a good thing for America and good for the economy," Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, said in a statement issued by his campaign on Tuesday.
Today, the House minority leader, Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, pressed the attack. "There are more than eight million — more than eight million — Americans who want to be working but are not," she said in a news briefing. "Many of them have lost their jobs due to outsourcing."
"I'm sure American workers are shocked by the president's embracing of outsourcing," she said a moment later.
Vote Bush: More Debt, Less Wages!
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So... the recession was caused by outsourcing?
I have a pretty good idea why 8 million people are out of work instead of the 6 million that are normally out of work. Outsourcing ranks well down on the list. Unions, failed .coms and a nation-wide epidemic of bad investing in the late 90's is much higher. I wonder why they didn't bring that up?
MiniD
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bush did not say that, Gregory Mankiw said it , stop miss-quoting.
if all economists were laid end to end.............it would be a good thing.
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1st: It's true that offshoring is good LONG TERM.
2nd: Bush didn't say it, some admin official did.
3rd: Remember Clinton's little globetrotting friend Ron Brown? What kind of deals do you think he was setting up when he went overseas?
4th: There's nothing any politician can do about it except grandstand like the Dems are.
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You guys say that like it's a simple topic.
Sure, they can have the jobs in here. It will cost the producers 3x as much even without paying for employees. It will then cost the producers 5x more to pay for one third of the employees it previously had.
So basically, you now have one third of those jobless with a job, but everything now costs 6x more then it did.
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Yah.. I have to agree... the offshore thing is horrible..... Many of my friends parents are Jobless. I know 3 diffrent families that have been forced to live on the street.....It just ain't right, if Bush cared he'd at least attempt something instead of dancing around the subject....
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If everything costs 5x more then it would, what would be the purpose of picking up new jobs?
They still wouldn't be able to pay for it.
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Protectionism sucks.
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It's just that anyway you look at it, you're going to take it up the...
The only way to create new jobs is to create new industries.
And what's the only untapped industry right now that's available?
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>"Today, the House minority leader, Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, pressed the attack. "There are more than eight million — more than eight million — Americans who want to be working but are not," she said in a news briefing. "Many of them have lost their jobs due to outsourcing." <
It seems to me the Dems support globalization as much as anybody else. Didn't Bush just get in trouble with the WTO because he was pushing steel tariffs to protect American steelworkers jobs? What are the Dems proposing to stop it?
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And what's the only untapped industry right now that's available?
OHHH that would be AH2 BETA TESTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl
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Space travel.
Imagine if only 1 million of those unemployed started working in some way or another towards space travel. We'd be doing it for real in years.
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lasersailor184,
Are you kiddin?????? Propellers and wings dont work too well in the vacuum of space!
I stand by the AH2 BETA TESTER job!!!!!!!:rofl
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Space travel.
Imagine if only 1 million of those unemployed started working in some way or another towards space travel. We'd be doing it for real in years.
replacing the aging infrastructure(communications, transportation,etc) or building new infrastructure to handle alt. energy sources...something that should of started already.
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Originally posted by stiehl
replacing the aging infrastructure(communications, transportation,etc) or building new infrastructure to handle alt. energy sources...something that should of started already.
We can't afford to right now, we are rebuilding (or creating) two countries infrastructures right now. Once we are done with them, we will probably have started on another country. We may end up falling apart before we get around to ourselves.
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Originally posted by ra
3rd: Remember Clinton's little globetrotting friend Ron Brown? What kind of deals do you think he was setting up when he went overseas?
And this is relevant in what way?
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Originally posted by Munkii
We can't afford to right now, we are rebuilding (or creating) two countries infrastructures right now. Once we are done with them, we will probably have started on another country. We may end up falling apart before we get around to ourselves.
But think of all the nice places we can move to then.
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Originally posted by Arlo
But think of all the nice places we can move to then.
Indeed.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
And this is relevant in what way?
The Dems are trying to say that jobs are going to Asia because of Bush policies, but the Clinton administration had an aggressive policy of trying to find cheap labor for American companies. Clear enough?
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Today, the House minority leader, Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, pressed the attack. "There are more than eight million — more than eight million — Americans who want to be working but are not," she said in a news briefing. "Many of them have lost their jobs due to outsourcing."
so she went and asked those 8 million:
"Would you like to earn about the same thing or less at a job you are qualified for as you make with food stamps, welfare, free housing while you drive around in ur leased lexus or would you like to sit here watch Opra and JSpringer, spit out another kid or two and get a monthly increase?"
hmm - me thinks many/most of those 8 million CHOOSE to be outa work..
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Originally posted by ra
The Dems are trying to say that jobs are going to Asia because of Bush policies, but the Clinton administration had an aggressive policy of trying to find cheap labor for American companies. Clear enough?
Is Mankiw a Democrat?