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Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: SELECTOR on February 15, 2004, 05:33:36 PM

just finnished this a5.. flown by heinrich sterr of jg54 sping 1943 on eastern front..127 kills

you can download from http://www.ah-skins.com/
(http:////www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421452592/0.jpg)
(http:////www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421452592/1.jpg)

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: Wilbus on February 16, 2004, 08:31:50 AM

Very very nice!!

Don't understand how you do it, tried skinning some but I suck.

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: SELECTOR on February 16, 2004, 10:59:54 AM

wilbus , i skin in this way..
1st and most important. get the panel lines down onto a new layer, takes a bit of tim but if you use the draw button and do all vertical lines then all horizontal lines.. then do the fiddlely lines you can do it quite quickly..
2nd do the rivits... you can use the same line tech , but set it to do a dotted line.. and so on..
3rd.. now the fun part painting.. think of how things are in real life..start off new and get old.. so start with your camo paint and work up.. so things getting scratched( around the places where people work are most scratched) and dirty .
4th things move so an oil spill and gun smoke move in certain directions so paint on oil and smoke with brush and use gausian blur and wind effect in paint program( you may have to rotate you pic to get right effect)

but most of all use layers for everything(and name them before you use them).. the 190 has over 50 layers

what would be good is being able to post the skins with all layers available so people can see how they are put together..

also have a goos source of pics to work from.

good luck

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: lucull on February 16, 2004, 11:20:07 AM

If someone would like to create a tutorial with an example skin and step by step manual, it would be a pleasure for me to put it on http://www.ah-skins.com.

Best would be if freeware such as GIMP would be used with screenshots etc.  and no worries, I would just need the text and screen shots. You don't need any html knowledge. :)

What do you think? Anyone?

What kind kinf of categories you would like to see? Templates, decals, stencils, ...? What else?

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: Wilbus on February 16, 2004, 02:06:50 PM

Thanks alot Selector, started on a skin before I got your reply and did draw the new lines in a new layer, makes me feel good it's the same thing you put on 1:st place.

What Program do you use? I'm using Paint Shop Pro, would this Gimp program I've heard about be better?

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: straffo on February 16, 2004, 02:22:20 PM

Wilbus if you want to learn skinning the tool is not really important provided your graphical program manage layers.

Paint shop pro should be more than enought for starting no need to learn another program.

My suggestion would be for you to download one of Snorri's template (may I suggest a 190 ? ;))  here (http://www.flugzeugwerk.net/xflugz.htm)

Even if the mapping is different you will be able to see how he made the layers.


Unfortunatly the only skinning tutorials I know are in French :(

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: frank3 on February 16, 2004, 02:24:37 PM

I figured this plane will suck at flying........








........Since I can't look away from that gorgeous skinn :aok

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: SELECTOR on February 16, 2004, 02:37:52 PM

i use paint shop pro 7 and nothing else..always save your work as a paintshop pro file and it will be always in layers for a second session..

as for skinning help try this.. its a il2 sight bus some good info here http://www.1java.org/sh/

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: JustJim on February 16, 2004, 06:54:09 PM

First Off, Very Nice Skin.

I Seem to be having problems with the wing aspect of it though, at first it wouldnt work at all i had to rename the 190a51.bmp file to just plain 190a5 for the main body panels to accept.

after many tries with renaming the wing bmp I cannot get it to take any ideas?

 (http://home.comcast.net/~jim_ferreira/wsb/media/141146/site1056.jpg)

(http://home.comcast.net/~jim_ferreira/wsb/media/141146/site1057.jpg)

Thanks,  JustJim1  III/Jabostaffel

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: Wilbus on February 17, 2004, 03:22:09 AM

Thanks for the help Straffo and Selector, much appriciated!! Will try some more today!

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: Batz on February 17, 2004, 03:43:29 AM

Quote

Originally posted by JustJim

after many tries with renaming the wing bmp I cannot get it to take any ideas?
 

The a5 use the 190a8 wing and was labeled as such. 190A8B

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: SELECTOR on February 17, 2004, 07:30:45 AM

thanks i have just found my mistake and have rectified it on the upload site.. but rename your file   190A8B and all should be well..
sorry for any inconvenience

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: JustJim on February 17, 2004, 12:47:49 PM

Thanks, It's all set now

This is by far my favorite A5 skin very good work I hope HT makes this 1 of the online choices.  (prays)

 (http://home.comcast.net/~jim_ferreira/wsb/media/141146/site1058.jpg)


Thanks Again,

JustJim1
III/Jabostaffel

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: SELECTOR on February 17, 2004, 01:09:12 PM

no problem i enjoy doing it..

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: straffo on February 19, 2004, 10:39:10 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Wilbus
Thanks for the help Straffo and Selector, much appriciated!! Will try some more today!

The tutorials I spoke you about  last night :

French : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/danielroger/main_tutorial_photoshop.htm

French and English version : http://zargos-skins.checksix-fr.com/

Title: Re: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: GODO on February 19, 2004, 02:11:17 PM

Excelent work SELECTOR, really excelent work. Hope we'll see that A5 online soon.

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: JustJim on February 19, 2004, 05:30:09 PM

Did you submit this skin to HTC by any chance, I would love to see it as one of the approved ones :D

Skuzzy has posted on another thread that only 2 skins so far have been submitted, maybe a vote of approval here would help SELECTOR decide to submit this very beautiful one.

Thanks,

JustJim1
III/Jabostaffel

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: SELECTOR on February 19, 2004, 06:18:58 PM

i did submit the skin.. but i got a message back from skuzzy that some of the file names were wrong, i have hopfully rectified the names( i wasn't told which were wrong)..so hopfully it will be available..

im glad you like the skin.. i had fun doing it...i dont even fly the 190 hehe

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: JustJim on February 24, 2004, 06:45:18 PM

Quick Question that was brought up by a squaddie.

Why is it Showing the JG54 Grunherz heart under the cockpit but yet the panther of JG11 on the nose art? Is this accurate to History?

(http://home.comcast.net/~jim_ferreira/wsb/media/141146/site1065.jpg)

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: Dawvgrid on February 25, 2004, 02:47:21 AM

It's very very nice Selector!!,big >S<.

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: SELECTOR on February 25, 2004, 03:30:44 AM

its 100% correct

Title: 190 skin just finnished
Post by: Batz on February 25, 2004, 08:45:17 AM

Jim thats not JG11 nose art,


The Greenheart shows what Geschwader. The nose Art shows 2nd Gruppe. Some Staffels had their own art as well early in the war. So pilots had individaul personal art.

FYI

The greenheart = Grünherz Geschwader, the nose art is for II./JG 54 (2nd Gruppe). The horizontal bar behind the cross also means its a 2nd gruppe aircraft. The fact that it and the number 2 are painted  yellow (gelbe) means it was in the 3rd staffel (3./JG 54).

So Geshwader = JG54
Gruppe = 2
Staffel = 3
Plane = 2

Just write it as 3./JG 54.

Another example of Art

(http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/o/wotans/4JG53/images/jgart.gif)

The image (4./JG 53) above starting from left to right:

Staffel Emblem,
the Gruppen Emblem,
Geschwader Emblem