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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: aknimitz on December 11, 2001, 04:19:00 PM
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Ok, I'm sure this thread is gonna turn into something nasty, but that is not my intention. Frankly, I have had HORRID connections and discos with the new server. Hell, I dont mind a few discos. BUT, when I disco, and get get back into the arena for 20 damn minutes, that sucks!
PLEASE fix this ... this has been going on for two weeks with me. I happen to have a lot of time to fly right now, but I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be to those that pay and only have a 1 or 2 hour window to fly in, get disco'd and cannot get back in for 20 minutes.
Nim
[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: aknimitz ]
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vv net status hasnt returned to what is was a few months back, it still seems to be overloaded to me.
Now AH is more like how WB was for me when i tried it.bit warpy and annoying.AH sold on its excellent servers, will we ever get it back to how it was? is 2 arenas the answer?
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Originally posted by aknimitz:
PLEASE fix this ... this has been going on for two weeks with me.
yep, 2 weeks sounds familiar ... at times i can not even get into the arena(s) and if/when i do, everything's 'dead' ... missed the first 2 BigWeek frames :(
Goner
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Goner, I thouight I saw you in frame 2 landing with us.
I guess it could have been an hallucination from lack of oxygen from us flying so hi
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Originally posted by Sunchaser:
Goner, I thouight I saw you in frame 2 landing with us.
I guess it could have been an hallucination from lack of oxygen from us flying so hi
you must have been hallucinating ... i didn't make it to the runway that night :(
there's a 'Gomer' on the roster, maybe you saw him ?
Goner
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yeah, forget it. im back on Everquest. Cant take off without getting discoed halfway.
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Started getting discos tonight. Havn't had a disco in ages. Can't connect to the server now.
Did a traceroute and everything looks ok. ping is between 45-80.
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I think we've all been having problems, Nim. Time for the dweebs to get even I guess.
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Looks like we had 2 mass dumps tonight heres trace from 1 of them.
1,surfport-gw.nildram.net,195.112.5.249,42,37,42,38,34,38,43
2,lon1-10.nildram.net,195.149.20.105,39,44,35,41,35,41,35
3,ge-0-2-0.r01.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net,217.79.161.10,35,39,41,37,36,40,37
4,p4-1-0-0.r02.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net,129.250.4.181,110,106,116,110,106,108,113
5,p4-4-0-0.r00.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net,129.250.4.197,108,106,110,116,112,113,109
6,p16-0-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net,129.250.5.94,126,126,129,133,129,137,129
7,p16-3-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net,129.250.5.85,155,159,154,155,154,157,154
8,ge-1-0-0.a10.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net,129.250.28.164,156,154,160,151,150,150,158
9,fa-5-1-0.a09.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net,129.250.31.61,154,156,154,154,155,150,154
10,d3-0-0-0.a09.dllstx01.us.ce.verio.net,157.238.226.186,156,146,156,146,152,146,150
11,border3.ge3-1-bbnet1.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.22,148,152,147,156,177,155,148
12,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,148,406,152,149,161,155,150
13,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,153,149,148,147,154,150,153
14,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,149,386,149,155,154,154,152
15,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,150,148,152,150,151,151,175
16,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,154,320,148,151,153,149,158
17,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,155,151,151,150,150,148,150
18,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,148,294,150,157,149,150,150
19,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,153,150,158,151,156,152,153
20,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,154,228,150,159,149,151,150
21,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,152,150,153,155,156,156,153
22,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,155,202,156,159,151,150,155
23,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,153,183,152,156,155,151,159
24,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,151,353,156,155,153,151,153
25,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,149,185,150,150,152,152,155
26,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,160,319,157,156,153,151,156
27,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,154,155,155,153,153,150,151
28,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,158,277,152,154,153,153,158
29,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,152,156,156,188,151,160,151
30,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,157,211,157,155,156,155,160
31,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,152,157,154,152,158,190,154
32,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,159,419,161,152,158,155,153
33,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,153,161,155,159,152,156,157
34,core1.fe0-0-bbnet1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.1,153,372,156,154,153,156,162
35,border3.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.dal.pnap.net,216.52.191.83,152,159,158,161,157,156,159
Nothing to do with HT servers the net is falling over before it gets to em.
Now i will be the first to agree if we are generally talking about the crap netstat host que times and the lag/rubber bullets associated with it when it spikes like hell, which is all too often lately.
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I dont get Disco's i get HUGE HUGE chat lag like 1 min chat lag... and i can shoot a guy and about 5 min later get a the kill sign..
and whats even worse is when i get shot and like a minute later my wing brakes off and im gone
FIX IT ! thnx
peace
(also heard that HT is looking for a new ISP) **rumor**
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One thing I have noticed besides the discoes is that the connect status takes a dump after a short while in the arena. Last night was the exception for me, I got to fly one and a half hours with not a sign of trouble.
Am not sure if it is something in the new patch, the voice program (am not running it, but is it on the HTC server?), or something.........
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First time I've had to fly in over a week. Not even worth connecting. Oh, but look on he bright side, we got a new ah voice version today. Don't fret, maybe next week we'll get another 109 or f4 variant.
CRASH
Originally posted by aknimitz:
Ok, I'm sure this thread is gonna turn into something nasty, but that is not my intention. Frankly, I have had HORRID connections and discos with the new server. Hell, I dont mind a few discos. BUT, when I disco, and get get back into the arena for 20 damn minutes, that sucks!
PLEASE fix this ... this has been going on for two weeks with me. I happen to have a lot of time to fly right now, but I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be to those that pay and only have a 1 or 2 hour window to fly in, get disco'd and cannot get back in for 20 minutes.
Nim
[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: aknimitz ]
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I'm with you Crash....first chance in a week to fly and got "host connection lost" three times in 2 hours....arrrrrg. I certainly hope it is not connected to the AH voice stuff possibly taking up bandwidth that could be better spent on other server functions. I am no wizard at the server stuff so am not saying that is what is happening....just as frustrated with the disco's is all :-(((
RASCAL
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Well, you can be sarcastic amazinhunks about it (hi crash :)), or you can realize that it's got nothing to do with the server itself, but with where the server is being hosted. This is what HT said, in the same sentence he said that they were trying to get the problem solved.
SOB
...easily optomistic, 'cause I can connect just fine :p
[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: SOB ]
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Who is hosting the servers now? I remember hearing something about it not being at Applink until Skuzzy secures more bandwith?
no problems here.
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Getting bounced pretty much every hour, on the hour on my Verizon DSL :( Been this way for about a week.
Getting pretty good at Falcon 4 again, just no one to play against.
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If your using the Detonator 23.11 drivers, try an earlier version.
I used them w/o problems for a week or so then DSL started fediddleing up, even though still connected no data was coming in or going out, my best guess is my LAN card couldn't access the PCI bus due to AGP hogging the system bus
I could surf or play AH for approximately 9 minutes and then had to reboot and reconnect.
I went back to the 21.83 build and haven't had any more connect problems.
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Yup, read that. When was that posted....been workin' on it awhile I'd say. Connects gone to toejam, CT is a joke due to lack of ht support. New features like cv's are useless due to lack of hardness, terrains dont support gv's like they used to. Gotta wonder what their working on.
I've seen one train since they came out, couldnt kill it with guns, haven't seen a truck convoy yet. These new features keep coming out but they dont seem to make the game any more fun. It seems that as they come out they get limited, like I said, cv's and gv's are now pretty useless. How long did it take to develop these features that are now relegated to limitd use? In all seriousness, AH voice should make things a bit more fun for the guys who usually fly alone but as for the rest of it, I dont know. Read the article where ht talks about underground bunkers and first person shooter type action, gotta figure thats what their workin on. Be interesting to see how that unfolds. In the meantime, seems to me all the bells and whistles are useless if the connect sucks, I would think that would be first priority.
CRASH
Originally posted by SOB:
Well, you can be sarcastic amazinhunks about it (hi crash :)), or you can realize that it's got nothing to do with the server itself, but with where the server is being hosted. This is what HT said, in the same sentence he said that they were trying to get the problem solved.
SOB
...easily optomistic, 'cause I can connect just fine :p
[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: SOB ]
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I have suffered severe warping as of lately. My netstatus always look the same: delay almost flat, but Server Queue Time bumpy allover. Not occasional spikes, but continuous (and regular) fast spikes.
Cheers,
Pepe
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I haven't had any problems as far as AH is concerned, but I hear the same problems from EVERY game out there. Can it be a general overload of the internet itself? You all know more than I do, of course, as alot of you are "internet power users" Is there anyone that can come up with a solution? Just a question. I have no answers. Any help out there? Dukemskt.
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My connection is fine. I had 2 discos last night due to server problems, which is unaviodable, and exceptable.
HTC has no more control over the internet than you or I, or anyone else (exluding the company i work for which makes up over 35% of it hehe :D). 90% of disconnects come from your ISP, or the route that they take you through to get to the destination. Try using a proxy server or something and see if that helps, that would change your path and maybe you will aviod a bad hop/server along the way.
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Cavalier, you go through 35 hops to get to the MA servers?? wow.. is that normal for people in europe?
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Originally posted by CRASH:
Yup, read that. When was that posted....been workin' on it awhile I'd say. Connects gone to toejam, CT is a joke due to lack of ht support. New features like cv's are useless due to lack of hardness, terrains dont support gv's like they used to. Gotta wonder what their working on.
I've seen one train since they came out, couldnt kill it with guns, haven't seen a truck convoy yet. These new features keep coming out but they dont seem to make the game any more fun. It seems that as they come out they get limited, like I said, cv's and gv's are now pretty useless. How long did it take to develop these features that are now relegated to limitd use? In all seriousness, AH voice should make things a bit more fun for the guys who usually fly alone but as for the rest of it, I dont know. Read the article where ht talks about underground bunkers and first person shooter type action, gotta figure thats what their workin on. Be interesting to see how that unfolds. In the meantime, seems to me all the bells and whistles are useless if the connect sucks, I would think that would be first priority.
CRASH
I guess about all I can say about it is that you can either be patient about the situation or you can't. Can't really blame ya if you can't, since you are paying for it monthly. However, I haven't seen a major problem in the last year and a half that I've been here that hasn't been fixed in a reasonable (and sometimes an unreasonably fast) amount of time. HT says they're working on the connection problem, then I'm sure they are. I'm also sure it's not a problem that can take up a person's time 8 hours a day, which leaves time to do things like new versions of AH Voice.
As for new features that aren't fun, that's subjective. The CVs have been out for quite a while now and this hardness issue has only recently flamed up. It used to be people squeaking nonstop about the uber killing power the CV group's flak possessed. It was toned down in responce, several times until people were seeminly satisfied. Now a single fighter loaded with bombs can dive in through ack and kill the CV. Whether or not it was possible for a single fighter to sink a ship in WWII (i really don't care either way), I don't think you should be able to in AH...you should be torn to shreds by ack before you get that close. I'm happy to wait for it. Of features that were implimented since I've been here that have enhanced my enjoyment, there are many, but I'll name a few: Check 6 calls, clouds, Roger Wilco integration into AH, nightime & stars, cockpit shake when firing guns, Arado with RATOS :), real trees on the ground, trains and their tracks which lead to bases and facilities, etc.
There are some things I don't like too, like the field re-supply stuff. At least not the first incarnation of it...it was a novelty at first, but became annoying quick. They've been working on it tho', and as far as I know it may be tweaked more to my liking (didn't like one c47 repairing an entire field instantly). I do like the concept of the re-supplies tho'.
Regardless of any of this, I can still log on, find a fight and have fun. Last night, I joined in on a nice big furball between A42 and A43. It was a blast, and when the drove us back to A43 and blew up our fighter hangars, I upped in an Ostwind and had the most fun I've had in a ground vehicle in a long time.
I'll stop babbling now. What can I say, you either like it or ya don't. :)
SOB
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Saw some warps last night with 400+ online, but my connects have never been better.
Don't change anything!! :)
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Nimitz,
You ain't alone buddy. I have nbeen virtually off line for a month now in the MA. Ever since the new servers went up to accomodate over 300 ppayers my connection has been crap. It wseems to be directly related to the numbers in the MA as well. I can fly reliably in the TA with far fewer players but can't count on more tan one mission in the MA before disco city.
My total time in the MA ever since this has been solely in support of squad nights. Less than 5 to 6 hours a month. Not exactly worth the $15.00 I pay. If it were still at $30.00 I'd have been out of the game entirely. :(
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Mav, I think it's only the main arena that's off site & the TA/DA/SEA are still with Skuzzy.
SOB
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Originally posted by SOB:
Mav, I think it's only the main arena that's off site & the TA/DA/SEA are still with Skuzzy.
SOB
That explains the difference in connect quality then. Thanks!
Mav
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It's the Taliban. The bastards hate on-line gaming. I read it somewhere, can't remember where. They trained computer hackers at the AlQueerda training camps and have targeted other online games in the past. When they are gone you'll see it goes back to normal. :cool:
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Call it growing pains. I'm sure HT & company are beating someones ears off about now. They 'll sort it out as soon as they can.
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What-a-ya need Skuzzy, some of us to come down there and help dig a ditch for your new "fat pipe".
We'll do it. Anything.
F.
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i've got one better than any of these...I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOG INTO THE MAIN ARENA FOR THREE (COUNT 'EM...3) DAYS!
before i start ranting, lemme say in all fairness to pyro and htc in general, that i've already spoken to them, and pyro said he was going to get to work on it...BUT...here it is thursday, and i'm still not able to log into the ma (i just checked).
:mad: :mad: :mad:
based on what i was told, the problem is with a router that htc is now using. i can log into the ct (and play with myself (keep the minds out of the gutter on that one, kids)), or to the training arena and listen to a lot of newbies whine because i keep killing them, but i still can't get into the ma. the reason for this, as it was explained, is that the server for the ma is in a different physical location than the servers for the ct and ta.
regardless, i'm starting to get a little irritated. i left work today early, and was looking forward to an afternoon of flying ah to celebrate my birthday (woohoo...i know, it's sad but true), only to find out i still can't lot the F in. :mad: :confused:
so, all you other chowderheads who are upset can only speculate as to how i feel at the moment. :mad:
The Tuckster
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I feel your pain, I had the same problem trying to get in last night. A solid hour of log in, can't do anything, then host disconnects. I managed to get almost an hour of play between disco's, then got 4 more in a row.
I don't know what's going on, and I'm not faulting anyone. For all I know its Verizon or something between me and HTC. But its very maddening I can go into the Training Room without a prob, or the CT.
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Amon regarding the hops to HT for me in UK, that post above was showing a problem when everyone got booted from the MA.
Normal connects for me vary between 13 hops on a good day but usually more like 20 since the MA host left Skuzzy.
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Originally posted by CRASH:
Yup, read that. When was that posted....been workin' on it awhile I'd say. Connects gone to toejam, CT is a joke due to lack of ht support. New features like cv's are useless due to lack of hardness, terrains dont support gv's like they used to. Gotta wonder what their working on.
I've seen one train since they came out, couldnt kill it with guns, haven't seen a truck convoy yet. These new features keep coming out but they dont seem to make the game any more fun. It seems that as they come out they get limited, like I said, cv's and gv's are now pretty useless. How long did it take to develop these features that are now relegated to limitd use? In all seriousness, AH voice should make things a bit more fun for the guys who usually fly alone but as for the rest of it, I dont know. Read the article where ht talks about underground bunkers and first person shooter type action, gotta figure thats what their workin on. Be interesting to see how that unfolds. In the meantime, seems to me all the bells and whistles are useless if the connect sucks, I would think that would be first priority.
CRASH
A Mr. Richard Fader from Fort Lee New Jersey writes....
:rolleyes:
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No one can be blamed for being upset over bad connects, and if the worst you do is come here to vent a little frustration, no biggie (at least to me). I left WB originally because of the connect problems (which were never acknowledged by the staff at the time, despite the sheer volume of people complaining). I knew there was no chance it would be resolved, so I left.
Anyone can see here that several people are having connect probs, the problem is real. HT has said he is working on a solution. I find things happen sooner than later here, so I am inclined to think this will get resolved quickly. Of course it is your money, so do what is best for you.
FWIW I left a big event sim not long ago that had far worse connect probs than this one. Still does, in fact. This isn't only happening here. ;)
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Originally posted by SOB:
Mav, I think it's only the main arena that's off site & the TA/DA/SEA are still with Skuzzy.
SEA is as bad as MA for me ...
can't even get in most of the time ; i'd be happy with 3 discos p/hour ... :(
seems i have problems with routes to ALL their servers.
Goner