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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on February 18, 2004, 10:53:15 PM
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According to The New Hampshire Gazette, "a "chickenhawk" has three qualities: bellicosity (a warlike manner or temperament), public prominence, and a curious lack of wartime service when others their age had no trouble finding the fight. The fact that they're almost all Republicans is ... well, curious, don't you think?"
(http://www.chickenhawkcards.com/chickenhawks.jpg)
Want to know who served and who didn't? (http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html)
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Bill Clinton served in the... oh wait.
Pull up your pants, your bias is showing.
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Read the list, then get back to me.
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a chickenhawk is a hawk that eats chickens, y'all city boys done kno nuttn.
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links down rpm 8(
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Originally posted by rpm371
Read the list, then get back to me.
Don't have to. I read the URL. Try a credible source next time.
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Q:
What do you call a guy who votes to cut funding for nearly every major weapons sytem use by the army and Air Force today?
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John Kerry
I guess he wants all our troops to be purple heart heros like him and to get shot up and hurt by having inferior equipment. What a bastard... John Kerry wants US soldiers to be weak and defensless without advanced weapons, his voting record reflects a man who hates the military and who wants us soldiers to die by having inferior equipment. He may have recieved some medals but benedict arnold was once a hero too.... Kerry is a disgrace.
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Originally posted by rpm371
The fact that they're almost all Republicans is ... well, curious, don't you think?"
Want to know
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I guess he wants all our troops to be purple heart heros like him and to get shot up and hurt by having inferior equipment. What a bastard... John Kerry wants US soldiers to be weak and defensless without advanced weapons, his voting record reflects a man who hates the military and who wants us soldiers to die by having inferior equipment. He may have recieved some medals but benedict arnold was once a hero too.... Kerry is a disgrace. [/B]
Is that like Bush sending soldiers to Iraqi without the best in body armor? How about Bush sending american troops to die for a falsified cause?? Or perhaps Bush not funding local fire fighters or local response teams like he said he would? Or how about Bush not funding no child left behind.. How about Bush failing to back his promise for $10billion in aid to Africa for its AIDS epidimic..
Can you really believe what you typed? Kerry wants US souldiers to be weak? Can you actually believe this to be true? Hes a war veteren.. Can you possibly think anyone that had been in that situation would send troops ill-prepared? More so than Bush did? Do you think he would commit them on a lie?? common gh.....
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http://www.awolbush.com
Bringing you unbiased news 24 hours a day. Tune in next week when we examine Bush's claim that he is the Son of God. Now a word from our sponsors...
...Here at MoveOn.org we pride ourselves in bringing you the truth. As you are well aware, we have suffered over a trillion casualties in Iraq and...
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
http://www.awolbush.com
Bringing you unbiased news 24 hours a day. Tune in next week when we examine Bush's claim that he is the Son of God. Now a word from our sponsors...
...Here at MoveOn.org we pride ourselves in bringing you the truth. As you are well aware, we have suffered over a trillion casualties in Iraq and...
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Moveon.org is a riot! We have Liberal faithfuls on our bimmer board that swear they're unbias. LMAO!
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No, this is a chickenhawk --> (http://cartoonfiles.truhgoy.com/clipart/data/media/43/henry001.gif)
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"Can you really believe what you typed? Kerry wants US souldiers to be weak? Can you actually believe this to be true? Hes a war veteren.. Can you possibly think anyone that had been in that situation would send troops ill-prepared? More so than Bush did? Do you think he would commit them on a lie?? common gh....."
Not really kappa but it was fun to write it, I guess in the great tradition of anti-bush attacks I suppse. :)
But still it does bother me that he now positions himself the great war hero national security candidate when he has such a terrible voting record on defense. For example he voted to cut funding for the M1 Abrams tank, that would leave the army with the old steel armor M60 - a capable old tank but far less advanced with far less protection or speed...
But how much does his veteran status protect him from his outrageous voting record?
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All a soldier really needs is a gun and some boots. The rest is just convience.
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Originally posted by kappa
Is that like Bush sending soldiers to Iraqi without the best in body armor?
Do some research on the Interceptor vest. It wasn't even approved for production and introduced until 1999. There aren't that many companies with the capability to make the plates. That situation is being rectified using the time honored tradition of throwing money at it.
"It's not a question of money, it's a question of capacity to manufacture these devices," the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, Gen. Richard Myers, told a Senate committee last month. "We're making them as quickly as we can."
Of the American soldiers in Iraq who already have the body armor, some received it before arriving in Iraq and others after their deployment.
Nelson said the Army originally hired three companies to make the plates: Armor Works LLC of Tempe, Ariz.; Ceradyne Inc. of Costa Mesa, Calif; and Simula Inc. of Phoenix.
The Army recently added three more companies to make the inserts, Nelson said: Point Blank Body Armor Inc., a division of DHB Industries, of Carle Place, N.Y.; ProTech Armored Products, a subsidiary of Armor Holdings Inc., of Jacksonville, Fla.; and ForceOne LLC, of Spruce Pine, N.C.
To help meet the demand, all six companies also are making heavier versions of the bulletproof plates, which can be manufactured quicker and easier, Nelson said.
I suppose if we needed 300 F-22's, you guys would be beeching that Bush didn't build them in time. .
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Grun: But still it does bother me that he now positions himself the great war hero national security candidate when he has such a terrible voting record on defense. For example he voted to cut funding for the M1 Abrams tank, that would leave the army with the old steel armor M60 - a capable old tank but far less advanced with far less protection or speed...
But how much does his veteran status protect him from his outrageous voting record?
I have to agree with you on this last part.. I dont feel his vertern status should protect him from anything.. Well, nothing except his past services being attacked from would be character assasinations..
I'm afriad I must plead ignorance on kerry's voting record. I have read practically nothing on the man. I would offer one idea (not an excuse mind you), perhaps he voted not infavor of the M1 project due to some part of the process that he and his fellow peers were attempting to place under control.. i.e. spending.. Perhaps he thought it could have been done differently or with less money. Perhaps he didnt like the way the contract was given.. Who knows.. I only mean to say that I have a hard time believeing an individual placed in harms way would want to offer anything but the best if others from his country were to follow in his footsteps..
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Kerry's 19 Years in Senate Invite Scrutiny (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22260-2004Feb7.html)
...But 20 years ago, in his first Senate campaign, Kerry talked a different language about national defense, denouncing President Ronald Reagan's military buildup and calling for cuts of about $50 billion in the Pentagon budget, including the cancellation of a long list of weapons systems, from the B-1 bomber to the Patriot antimissile system to F-14A, F-14D and F-15 fighter jets....
Kerry's 19-year record in the Senate includes thousands of votes, floor statements and debates, committee hearings and news conferences. That long paper trail shows that, on most issues, Kerry built a solidly liberal record, including support for abortion rights, gun control and environmental protection, and opposition to costly weapons programs, tax cuts for wealthy Americans and a 1996 federal law designed to discourage same-sex marriages.
There seems to be a trend on defense issues.
I'm sure we'll here lots more from both sides after the nominating process is finished.
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Originally posted by kappa
links down rpm 8(
Sorry, my bad. Link is now up.
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Originally posted by kappa
due to some part of the process that he and his fellow peers were attempting to place under control.. i.e. spending.. Perhaps he thought it could have been done differently or with less money.
You mean like the Big Dig that took place in his home state??
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Dune is the only one who got it right.:cool:
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Originally posted by kappa
I have to agree with you on this last part.. I dont feel his vertern status should protect him from anything.. Well, nothing except his past services being attacked from would be character assasinations..
I'm afriad I must plead ignorance on kerry's voting record. I have read practically nothing on the man. I would offer one idea (not an excuse mind you), perhaps he voted not infavor of the M1 project due to some part of the process that he and his fellow peers were attempting to place under control.. i.e. spending.. Perhaps he thought it could have been done differently or with less money. Perhaps he didnt like the way the contract was given.. Who knows.. I only mean to say that I have a hard time believeing an individual placed in harms way would want to offer anything but the best if others from his country were to follow in his footsteps..
It might be plausible that he voted against some weaposn on account of budgeting or techical disagrments a few times, but his long term voting record shows a pretty consitent pattern that he pretty much voted against most all key weapons systems we use today. Look at toads post. Makes really hard to be a cedible defense candiate when that dense poilict exculdes major weapons. :)
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Originally posted by kappa
Is that like Bush sending soldiers to Iraqi without the best in body armor?
Ahhhh, is that like voting to send troops to Iraq and then voting against funding them when they're there?
Ooops, that's Kerry.
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LMAO...anyone take a good look at the deck of cards?