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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: culero on February 19, 2004, 06:22:14 AM
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My impression of the other players in the Democrat race is bad - Kerry seems
like an insincere walking/talking noodle to me, Clark a misguided and
self-absorbed craver of power, Dean a well-intentioned buffoon.
But I can't see a damn thing wrong with Edwards. As a matter of fact, I like
most of what I have seen. I think we'd be losing if any of the above managed
to oust Shrub, but I don't see a reason to feel that way where Edwards is
concerned.
What am I missing?
culero
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Edwards? Ummm, actually nothing. He's the best one of the bunch.
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Yes, he's a Dem I could vote for. His trouble is lack of exposure. If Kerry grants him a series of debates, the rest of the Democrats may see this in time.
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He's way more electable than Kerry, but only because he is smooth. He is being financed by Big Lawyer, Inc. That's one thing wrong with him.
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What am I missing?
culero
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uhmm.. your from texas?
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Originally posted by Yeager
What am I missing?
culero
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uhmm.. your from texas?
Yeah, but I try hard to avoid flaunting the inherent superiority associated with that fact ;)
culero
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I think I like Edwards too, but thats prolly cuz I dont know much about him yet except that I dont like his economic stance, manufacturing is gone from this country because of valid reasons and you wont bing it back succesfully out of political motivatuions or resinding of NAFTA or whatnot..
He is relatively young though, and I do feel he will be president one day..
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Edwards does not lie and say he can bring jobs back all by himself. He doesn't sugar coat. I like that, and really find myself pulling for him. I have decided if he gets the nomination I will in all likelihood vote Democrat this time.
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Hehe..
As a Southern democrat, Edwards is probably the best of the original contenders. Im not going to harp about him though, Im actually thinking that Kerry will get Bush another four years.
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Well, I will typically go with the guy that speaks straight about what he brings to the table. I may not agree with everything the person wants to do, but I'd prefer someone with conviction over someone doing what is politically expedient.
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The only thing I dont like about edwards is that he's a trial lawer. Most Lawyers are in fact scum. He might be the exception to the rule though.
In most exit poles kerry got the majority of the vote because "he had more ELECTABILITY than any other canidate."
so its really not about the issues its about beating GWB
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he's happy with 2nd place ... knowing he can't beat out a wealthy liberal dem for the nomination - not full enough of bush hate and sprewing kooky left ideals, he is shooting to be his veep choice...
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I think Edwards is the best hope for the Democrats in '04.
Besides, the guy's a looker, and just think of all the hot, young interns he could breed.
What this country needs is a return to a president who isn't afraid to be a man, and use the fresh young meat that God provides to serve the president.
John "The Wad" Edwards in '04!
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Originally posted by banana
I think Edwards is the best hope for the Democrats in '04.
Besides, the guy's a looker, and just think of all the hot, young interns he could breed.
What this country needs is a return to a president who isn't afraid to be a man, and use the fresh young meat that God provides to serve the president.
John "The Wad" Edwards in '04!
Screw Edwards....
banana for PRESIDENT!!!!
:D
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But we had a banana for a president already...Bill Clinton:).
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Let me put it this way.
If Edwards runs for president, republicans lose. If kerry runs, republicans win.
Edwards is one of the few democrats that I don't hate. While I don't agree with him, he's a pretty good guy.
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John Edwards On The Issues (http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/John_Edwards.htm)
A useful guide to where the guy is at.
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the democrats should love edwards, he made his millions suing evil corporations.
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I too like Edwards. If the Dem's have any brains they'd give him the nomination. I see him as honest - something sorely lacking in Kerry's demenor.
Id still vote for Bush over him, but I bet Edwards would take plenty of Republican votes.
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Originally posted by Toad
John Edwards On The Issues (http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/John_Edwards.htm)
A useful guide to where the guy is at.
Yikes. I couldn't possibly disagree with him more.
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Originally posted by Toad
John Edwards On The Issues (http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/John_Edwards.htm)
A useful guide to where the guy is at.
Toad, that site has an obvious Republiclown bias. Read the wording used for Edwards, and then read the wording for Elizabeth Dole, and you'll see what I mean.
Here's a sample:
John Edwards on Education
Two school systems: one for the have's, one for have-not's. (Sep 2003)
Free first year of college for all willing to work for it. (Jun 2003)
Voted YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001)
Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Voted YES on declaring that memorial prayers and religious symbols at sch. (May 1999)
Voted NO on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. (Mar 1999)
Elizabeth Dole on Education
Supports CA Prop 187 barring illegal aliens from schools. (Oct 1999)
For school prayer & 10 Commandments in schools. (Oct 1999)
Merit pay to retain teachers. (Sep 1999)
More ed. savings accounts; tax credit for ed. charity. (Sep 1999)
Web of rules makes system fail; empower states & districts. (Sep 1999)
Search students’ lockers & backpacks for drugs & guns. (Sep 1999)
Decisions on teaching evolution should be made locally. (Aug 1999)
More power to teachers, parents, and local schools. (Aug 1999)
Demand rigorous training and degrees for teachers. (Mar 1999)
Restore quality and parental involvement. (Feb 1999)
Add a 4th “R”: Responsibility. (Feb 1999)
Restore federal taxes to local districts to empower parents. (Feb 1999)
Spend on teachers for training & smaller classes. (Feb 1999)
Supports scholarships for at-risk youth. (Jan 1999)
School Choice
Give parents a smorgasbord of choices. (Sep 1999)
Vouchers OK where public schools fail. (Apr 1999)
Parents should demand success; be given vouchers if not. (Mar 1999)
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I noticed the same thing, banana.
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Well, Wank, I didn't really examine it for subversive bias.
I sort of just skimmed through looking at his votes.
How biased is this statement?
Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Give me a totally unbiased source, I'll read it. If you can find one. ;)
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Edwards isnt the frontrunner so the smear campaign isnt running full swing against him like it is on kerry. Thats why you guys dont hate him with a passion yet.
Dont worry when he gets the VP nomination he will become a
lil' billclinton according to alot of websites. WIth all kinds of intern rumors.
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Here's a webpage, I don't know if it is his official page or just from a supporter.
http://www.johnedwards2004.com/home.asp
If you read through his "plans" you'll see that he's just another stuffed shirt. But anyone is more electable on a national level than Kerry. That guy is the most uninspired politician in the country.
ra
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Kerry seems a "cold fish"; maybe it's the long face continually downcast as if Death was at the door.
Edwards at least seems personable.
Well, it ain't over until Super Tuesday. Pretty easy to keep all the shorts unwadded at this time.
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this isnt american idol toad.
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Frogman, could you do me a favor? IF you ever manage to say something intelligent, could you change your text color? Thanks.
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culero: But I can't see a damn thing wrong with Edwards. As a matter of fact, I like most of what I have seen. I think we'd be losing if any of the above managed to oust Shrub, but I don't see a reason to feel that way where Edwards is concerned.
What am I missing?
He is a trial lawyer who made millions by blaming the dictors for birth defects and for not using C-sections. That helped drive malpractice insurance premiums way up and many doctors out of business and the cost of healthcare for all of us and reduced availability to many people who have no obstetrician around for tens of miles.
It also made doctors perform many more C-section than necessary to avoid being sued - and C-section is a major surgery with many negative effects on both child and a mother from stress and anesthesia, etc.
Of course all that crap was proven junk science because the babies born through C-section exibit exactly as many birth defects as those delivered vaginally, but Edwards and his hired "experts" have pocketed their millions anyway.
He is the scum of the scum among the trial lawyers - destroying our healthcare and the right of the doctor and the patient to decide on the course of treatment rather than the lawyer.
miko
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Originally posted by Yeager
Hehe..
As a Southern democrat, Edwards is probably the best of the original contenders. Im not going to harp about him though, Im actually thinking that Kerry will get Bush another four years.
God, I hope so.
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Kerry seems a "cold fish"; maybe it's the long face continually downcast as if Death was at the door.
I can imagine what you would've thought of Abraham Lincoln if you think that Kerry's a cold fish!
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Yeah but Americans didn't have to listen to Abe all the time or see his ugly mug every day like we do now.
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Actually, I think Lincoln had a reputation for engaging crowds with his homespun humor.
I know if I'd have heard the Gettysburg Addrees, I'd have probably been shocked into speechlessness. What a speech that was!
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i think we need to look at Abe's military record to see if he missed any milita meetings.
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Sorry Gents couldnt resist.
(http://www.ejsmithweb.com/FR/Kerry_Botox.jpg)
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That's great!
However, now that you mentioned it, Elizabeth Dole would beat everyone in an election without spending 1 cent on campaigning.
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Cool pic, and it's not Photshopped either.
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Originally posted by ra
Cool pic, and it's not Photshopped either.
I got more....just ask Gscholz I'm a "mudslinger" :rolleyes:
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Gotta enjoy the irony of Gscholz calling someone a mudslinger. Sweet.
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Already cast my ballot for Edwards... absentee that is. Saves time and trouble at the polls.