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Scientists criticize Bush administration
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/7985452.htm
Imagine, nobel prize winners from the USA implying Bush is a devious liar. :)
curly
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Hey Curly, belated Happy Retirement!
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ya curly.. give us the cutNpaste thingy or your login.. 8)
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Think I found a free link. Was this it Curly?
tp://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...ion/7985452.htm (http://www.moonmovie.com)
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Originally posted by AKcurly
Why, I cannot imagine this reaction! :)
Scientists criticize Bush administration
Me neither, I always thought that only shortsighted, leftist commie pinko hippies criticized Boosh...
Hmmm, maybe he isn't the bright, reasonable, thoughtful and moderate leader we thought him to be after all?
Ah, well. I'll wonder what they'll think of president Kerry next year.
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Bush's changes to advisory process draw scientists' ire
By Dan Vergano, USA TODAY
A bipartisan, all-star roster of Nobel Prize winners and former federal science officials accused the Bush administration Wednesday of politicizing science.
"When scientific knowledge has been found to be in conflict with its political goals, the administration has often manipulated the process through which science enters into its decisions," charges a document signed by 60 scientists in an unprecedented joint effort by the leaders of the nation's science establishment.
They are calling for an independent congressional investigation of federal science-advisory policies.
Signers include 20 Nobel Prize winners and 19 recipients of the National Medal of Science, awarded by the president for outstanding contributions in the field. Nobel winners include former National Institutes of Health chief Harold Varmus to pioneering chemist Richard Smalley. Medal winners include H-bomb designer Richard Garwin and Harvard physicist Norman Ramsey, both advisers to Republican administrations.
"These are very distinguished scientists with years of public service," says science policy expert Al Teich of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
A separate, 46-page report from the Union of Concerned Scientists, a group that has been critical of administration defense policies, accompanied the statement. It details what the union says were politically influenced science findings in the areas of health, environment, agriculture and national security, among others.
White House Office of Science and Technology Policy chief John Marburger dismissed the criticism as a "conspiracy report" of "disconnected issues that rubbed somebody the wrong way." He said the administration must better explain its processes to scientists.
From the Manhattan Project that created the atomic bomb to today's top-secret Pentagon programs, scientists have a long tradition of advising the federal government. But science has increasingly become the focus of political debate over the last decade.
President Clinton's failure to support needle-sharing programs to stop HIV transmission among drug addicts ? despite recommendations from his science advisers that he do so ? generated much criticism. So did President Bush's change of heart about a campaign promise to limit carbon dioxide emissions, which have been linked to global warming.
Researchers have been especially angry about administration moves to "peer review" federal regulations, excluding academic scientists while encouraging participation by scientists representing the regulated industry.
The report lists the following as objectionable practices, echoing past complaints from former government researchers:
? The removal of highly qualified scientists from lead-poisoning, environment, health and drug-abuse panels and their replacement with industry representatives.
? Forbidding EPA, Health and Human Services, Agriculture, and Interior Department scientists from speaking publicly.
? Revisions to the Endangered Species Act that limit scientists from commenting on the protection of habitats.
? The disbanding of advisory panels on nuclear weapons and arms control.
? The dismissal of assessments by national lab experts on the likelihood that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Marburger declined to address the scientists' specific complaints. He said he does not plan to bring the report to Bush's attention but hopes to involve federal agencies in responding to it.
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They should all get together and protest at one of the Presidents appearences.
Oh ya they cant. The president has the police move any protesters a mile away from where he is so no camera footage will exist of people protesting the president. There hastnt been footage of people protesting the president since the patriot act effectivly forbid it.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
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Hey Curly, belated Happy Retirement!
thx, rip ;)
curly
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Stop annoying people with those anoying facts Pongo, all we want here is Scandal, or PADI licences.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Stop annoying people with those anoying facts Pongo, all we want here is Scandal, or PADI licences.
Go learn Flemish, Saintsaw and we'll listen to ya. ;)
curly
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scientists should stay in their ivory towers and make good things for us and not get involved in real life , of which they know nothing about.
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Wow that was real smart John...
of course, we all know Scientist do not feed, sleep or *****... they are all made out of plastic! *slaps head*
@Curly
We lost against France yesterday... I resent this country!
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Originally posted by john9001
scientists should stay in their ivory towers and make good things for us and not get involved in real life , of which they know nothing about.
funny you should say that....
GWB had 0%(can you count)...again......0% experience in Foriegn Diplomacy....and yet....you follow him like a good little dog.
talk about blind faith.
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Originally posted by SLO
funny you should say that....
GWB had 0%(can you count)...again......0% experience in Foriegn Diplomacy....and yet....you follow him like a good little dog.
talk about blind faith.
4 years later...SSDD...0% experience in foreign diplomacy...
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Originally posted by SLO
funny you should say that....
GWB had 0%(can you count)...again......0% experience in Foriegn Diplomacy....and yet....you follow him like a good little dog.
talk about blind faith.
Not true. As governor of Texas he was friendly to Mexico. Care to recant?
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread8648.shtml
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From cannabis News?
They smoking da good stuff, it seems.....:lol
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Iron, perhaps he was loved at one time.. Seems he was by at least a few from your article. But from personal experience they do not love him now. At least from what I've seen and heard in Mexico.. They consider him a war monger..
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Liberal college professors. Shocking.
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You guys are acting like they haven't done this before.
Some jerk did it **DURING THE RECEPTION CEREMONY** of the nobel peace prize for physics.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Liberal college professors. Shocking.
People who read and teach others not to be brainwashed by the media...wow...how counterrevolutionary!
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Originally posted by AKcurly
Scientists criticize Bush administration
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/7985452.htm
Imagine, nobel prize winners from the USA implying Bush is a devious liar. :)
curly
Yassar Arafat won the Nobel peace prize for blowing up women and children......as a matter of fact, it's his favorite targets.
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war criminal (http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1973/index.html)