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Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 23, 2004, 10:23:31 AM
This weekend when the Nad-ee-ator announced his intention to run for president and no doubt lose, once again. He also mentioned that there's a movement in the House of Reps to impeach Bush but didn't elaborate.

Has any one heard anything or seen anything in the news about  this?

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1009-06.htm
http://www.talkleft.com/archives/001971.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle01172003.html

How many would support impeaching the President?
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: bpti on February 23, 2004, 10:25:32 AM
why impeach him? he's only got a few months left, and he's done all the stupid things he could've already.
oh wait, there's Haiti...
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Eagler on February 23, 2004, 10:31:57 AM
for what? being the strongest President since Reagan?

get a life..
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Sabre on February 23, 2004, 10:38:19 AM
Haven't you heard, Eagler? Exercising strong, moral leadership is now grounds for impeachment.  It's swung full circle from the previous presidency.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Ripsnort on February 23, 2004, 10:45:12 AM
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Originally posted by Sabre
Haven't you heard, Eagler? Exercising strong, moral leadership is now grounds for impeachment.  It's swung full circle from the previous presidency.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: 1K0N on February 23, 2004, 10:45:49 AM
Every President until our upcoming revolution will be impeached, Dems will want to impeach a rep pres, as the Reps will want to impeach a Dem pres... Impeachment will have to be removed as an option...
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 23, 2004, 10:52:42 AM
Morals!  Ethics!  Stalwart leadership!  Action!


IMPEACH THIS BASTARD!
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 23, 2004, 11:05:54 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Morals!  Ethics!  Stalwart leadership!  Action!
IMPEACH THIS BASTARD!


1. Committing a felony by outting a CIA operative.

2. Exagerating and fabricating US Intelligence to justify the war with Iraq.

3. Giving no-bid contracts to Haliburton (Chenney's former company).... which is now under scrutiny by the GAO for fraud.

4. Violating the US Constitution by putting US citizens in jail indefinately with out due process, denying them the right to see an attonery and prove the allegations against them are false. Btw the US Supreme court is reviewing this matter and has already declared several actions by the Administration as unconstitutional.

Come on!

Compare all that to lying about an after hours blow job between consenting adults.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Pongo on February 23, 2004, 11:08:17 AM
Tell a big enough lie often enough.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: AKIron on February 23, 2004, 11:19:20 AM
Maybe you can convince a few of your slavering buddies in Congress to go for it Nakhui. Reveal them for the vindictive sobs they are.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Duedel on February 23, 2004, 11:21:40 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
for what? being the strongest President since Reagan?

get a life..

strongest President since Reagan?

get a life...
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 23, 2004, 11:32:07 AM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
1. Committing a felony by outting a CIA operative.


Huh?

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2. Exagerating and fabricating US Intelligence to justify the war with Iraq.


Acting on may turn out to be bad information is not fabricating evidence.

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3. Giving no-bid contracts to Haliburton (Chenney's former company).... which is now under scrutiny by the GAO for fraud.


This issue has already been dismissed as 90% spin.

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4. Violating the US Constitution by putting US citizens in jail indefinately with out due process, denying them the right to see an attonery and prove the allegations against them are false. Btw the US Supreme court is reviewing this matter and has already declared several actions by the Administration as unconstitutional.


The Pariot Act expires soon.  Relax, you only have to stay in hidig a little longer.


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Compare all that to lying about an after hours blow job between consenting adults.


Where is there any comparison to Clinton mentioned?
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 23, 2004, 11:32:46 AM
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Originally posted by Duedel
strongest President since Reagan?

get a life...


Yeah Eagler!  Get a life!  Only losers post about politics on message boards!
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Gunthr on February 23, 2004, 11:35:59 AM
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Impeach Bush.... are they serious?

This weekend when the Nad-ee-ator announced his intention to run for president and no doubt lose, once again. He also mentioned that there's a movement in the House of Reps to impeach Bush but didn't elaborate.

Has any one heard anything or seen anything in the news about this?

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1009-06.htm
http://www.talkleft.com/archives/001971.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle01172003.html

How many would support impeaching the President? - Nakhui



Nakhui, I think at least part of your problem is the websites you frequent. Try for more balance when gathering information.

I hate "identity politics". It makes it so hard to have a discussion...  :(

Are they serious?

I think its a serious attempt to make it serious...
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: JB73 on February 23, 2004, 11:41:42 AM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
Compare all that to lying about an after hours blow job between consenting adults.
it was addmitted by bubba they did it while conducting business on the phone with other government officials.

when you dem's gonna get it through your thick skull the fact it was done NOT AS PERSONAL business, but during matters of the state and IN THE OVAL OFFICE that po'd so many of us rep's.

personal life my arse. if they had gone out to a hotel and gotten jiggy all night with leather and laytex i wouldnt care. do it in my (yes your's and my oval office) is where the problem lies.

ok thats enough. i should never have popped in here. i never comment on political threads. i broke my own rule for a second time.

JB73 out of the conversation.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Horn on February 23, 2004, 11:53:23 AM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar


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3. Giving no-bid contracts to Haliburton (Chenney's former company).... which is now under scrutiny by the GAO for fraud.
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This issue has already been dismissed as 90% spin.


The Pariot Act expires soon.  Relax, you only have to stay in hidig a little longer.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,912515,00.html

Yeah, Haliburton only pays him a million a year. I'm sure he's very objective.

and

http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-5144203.html

Many parts of the Patriot Act never expire.

Please try to keep up.

h
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: AKIron on February 23, 2004, 11:54:37 AM
Why was Monica brought into the spotlight? Did it have something to do with the accusation of sexual assault made by another? Yes, it did.

Why do some find it so easy to dismiss Clinton's lie about this as nothing more than a married man protecting his marriage? It seems to me that many believe that if they claim something to be true one more time than it is refuted then it becomes true by default. Believe what you want Nakhui, I'll not try to enlighten you any more on this subject.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: FUNKED1 on February 23, 2004, 12:01:28 PM
I think you have to do something illegal to be impeached.  Incompetence is not illegal.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Yeager on February 23, 2004, 12:04:36 PM
William Jefferson Clinton is a rapist and a  murderer.

So it is said ;)
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 23, 2004, 12:22:22 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Huh?


Clue #1
Justice Department launches criminal probe into leak of CIA operative's name
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/Iraq/2003/09/30/213369-ap.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/29/wilson.cia/
http://www.democrats.org/news/200309300001.html

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Acting on may turn out to be bad information is not fabricating evidence.

Clue #2
Transcipt of Wolf Blitzer interview with Scott Riter, former UN weapons inspector.
http://www.why-war.com/news/2003/07/13/scottrit.html

US to probe Iraq war intelligence
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1036232.htm

Senator Feinstein Supports Independent Investigation into the
Pre-War Intelligence on Iraq and Its Use
http://feinstein.senate.gov/04Releases/r-iraqwmd2.htm

On top of the intelligence, the Administration was pounding a steady drumbeat of speeches and comments about the threat that Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction presented.  

Let me give you some examples:

President Bush, on September 12, 2002, said in his Address to the UN General Assembly: “Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.”  

President Bush, on October 2, 2002, said in a Rose Garden Ceremony: “The regime has the scientists and facilities to build nuclear weapons, and is seeking the materials needed to do so.”  

President Bush, on October 7, 2002, said in an Address on Iraq: “The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program….Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly-enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year.”    
President Bush, in his October 7, 2002, address also said: “We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, and VX nerve gas.”    

President Bush, on March 17, 2003, said in his Address to the Nation on War with Iraq: “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.”  

How can this have happened?  Did the Intelligence Community fail, and why? Did senior policymakers misinterpret, manipulate or misrepresent the analytic product of the Intelligence Community? Did senior Executive branch officials deliberately mislead the American people and the Congress?


I know liberal press, biased media... etc. etc... etc....

Even though the justice  department is closing in on who leaked valerie palmer's name.

There are 2 congressional investigations and one special prosecutor investigation going on looking into the US Intelligence and policy makers' statements.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Martlet on February 23, 2004, 12:22:52 PM
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Originally posted by Duedel
strongest President since Reagan?

get a life...


Someone's still a little miffed that Reagan knocked down their wall.....
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Martlet on February 23, 2004, 12:24:51 PM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
C

There are 2 congressional investigations and one special prosecutor investigation going on looking into the US Intelligence and policy makers' statements.


I guess we have to boot everyone in Congress that voted for it too.  

There goes Kerry's campaign.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Bodhi on February 23, 2004, 12:30:17 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Someone's still a little miffed that Reagan knocked down their wall.....



:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

:aok
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 23, 2004, 12:36:37 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Yeah Eagler!  Get a life!  Only losers post about politics on message boards!


Ah and here you are posting about politics...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 23, 2004, 12:56:11 PM
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Impeach Bush.... are they serious?


As the President and the Congress are of the same political party those pushing for impeachment may be serious but they are far from realistic.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Heretik on February 23, 2004, 01:01:01 PM
Go ahead and impeach him.  Whatever charges they come up with probably won't stick, so  I doubt very much he'd be removed.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 23, 2004, 01:04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
Ah and here you are posting about politics...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


As are we all.  That was kinda the point Mr. Rolly Eye Guy.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 23, 2004, 01:04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
Ah and here you are posting about politics...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


As are we all.  That was kinda the point Mr. Rolly Eye Guy.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Dago on February 23, 2004, 01:08:19 PM
I am thrilled Nader is running again.  Not that I would vote for him, it's just a fantastic boost to the chances for a Bush relection.  

Nader cost Gore the election and for that,  we should consider ourselves forever in his debt.  But we sure don't want him for President.  He says he is running because the Democratic party isn't pushing the liberal agenda enough.  What?

Regardless, thank God for Ralph Nader and his blocking move on Kerry.  Our country will stand the better for it.


dago
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Post by: lasersailor184 on February 23, 2004, 01:08:25 PM
This isn't as outrageous as you think.  

The house has 435 people in it representing the different districts.  Out in the US there are some pretty radical districts.  So say 5 radicals get elected.  They try to do some wierd stuff.



I wouldn't be worried about this at all.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Duedel on February 23, 2004, 01:14:44 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Someone's still a little miffed that Reagan knocked down their wall.....

Reagan had style and his own point of view. Bush is just a puppet like u, Bodhi and all those other neo-con pom pom wavers.
To compare this monkey with Reagan is an affront even againts Mr. Cowboy.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 23, 2004, 01:21:12 PM
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Originally posted by Duedel
... is an affront even againts Mr. Cowboy.


Do Euros realize that many Americans consider being called a cowboy a compliment?  Kind of a code of the west - Gary Cooper type thing.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Duedel on February 23, 2004, 01:35:23 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Do Euros realize that many Americans consider being called a cowboy a compliment?  Kind of a code of the west - Gary Cooper type thing.

Uhhh .. OK thx ... (http://www.prisma-online.de/image/ce/mmnet_e1204f57a3ce.jpeg)
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Saurdaukar on February 23, 2004, 01:46:12 PM
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Originally posted by Duedel
Reagan had style and his own point of view. Bush is just a puppet like u, Bodhi and all those other neo-con pom pom wavers.
To compare this monkey with Reagan is an affront even againts Mr. Cowboy.


Yeah Bodhi, you puppet!  You cant be a non-conformist with agreeing with Druevil on this issue!
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Martlet on February 23, 2004, 01:53:09 PM
Actually, I'm all in favor of putting the wall back.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: AKIron on February 23, 2004, 01:53:31 PM
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Originally posted by Duedel
Reagan had style and his own point of view. Bush is just a puppet like u, Bodhi and all those other neo-con pom pom wavers.
To compare this monkey with Reagan is an affront even againts Mr. Cowboy.


I guess it will always be more cool to be a rebel.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Eagler on February 23, 2004, 01:55:35 PM
Nakhui

you should work at moveon.org, that is if you dont already ...  LOL
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 23, 2004, 02:00:24 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
Nakhui

you should work at moveon.org, that is if you dont already ...  LOL


Nah they not radical enough for me, even with their flying toasters.

I work for move-on.org. Check it out... and with a little lipstick and a some eyeliner... Dubya could actually be attractive... in a queer sort of way.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Duedel on February 23, 2004, 02:07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
Nah they not radical enough for me, even with their flying toasters.

I work for move-on.org. Check it out... and with a little lipstick and a some eyeliner... Dubya could actually be attractive... in a queer sort of way.

Thats really sick man
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: weaselsan on February 23, 2004, 03:27:00 PM
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Originally posted by Nakhui


2. Exagerating and fabricating US Intelligence to justify the war with Iraq.

You mean lieing about WMD like Kerry did...........



Mr. President, we have every reason to believe that Saddam Hussein will continue to do everything in his power to further develop weapons of mass destruction and the ability to deliver those weapons, and that he will use those weapons without concern or pangs of conscience if ever and whenever his own calculations persuade him it is in his interests to do so. . . . I have spoken before this chamber on several occasions to state my belief that the United States must take every feasible step to lead the world to remove this unacceptable threat. He must be deprived of the ability to injure his own citizens without regard to internationally-recognized standards of behavior and law. He must be deprived of his ability to invade neighboring nations. He must be deprived of his ability to visit destruction on other nations in the Middle East region or beyond. If he does not live up fully to the new commitments that U.N. Secretary-General Annan recently obtained in order to end the weapons inspection standoff - and I will say clearly that I cannot conceive that he will not violate those commitments at some point - we must act decisively to end the threats that Saddam Hussein poses." [Congressional Record, 3/13/98.]
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 23, 2004, 03:30:43 PM
ZING!
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Post by: weaselsan on February 23, 2004, 03:34:15 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
William Jefferson Clinton is a rapist and a  murderer.

So it is said ;)



That did it...now Monica is really miffed.





(http://www.dd841.com/images/monica_.jpg)
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 23, 2004, 03:38:46 PM
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Quote
Originally posted by Nakhui


2. Exagerating and fabricating US Intelligence to justify the war with Iraq.

You mean lieing about WMD like Kerry did...........
[Congressional Record, 3/13/98.] [/B]


Wouldn't surprise me that Kerry said that... he flip-flops on issues all the time depending on which corporation is pulling the money strings on his vote.

In any case, your comment has nothing to do with impeaching Bush..

You'll further note that, I'm not advocating Kerry - read my posts about him. He's just Republican boob pretending to be a Democrat.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: john9001 on February 23, 2004, 03:43:21 PM
impeach kerry , he lied to the president, congress, and the american public.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: crowMAW on February 23, 2004, 04:12:37 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I think you have to do something illegal to be impeached.  Incompetence is not illegal.

True...but isn't it amazing that so many intelligent conservatives in here support an incompetent president?! :D

If they just would get someone decent to vote for I wouldn't have to vote Dem for the second consecutive time out of the past 6 presidential elections. :rolleyes:
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Eagler on February 23, 2004, 05:24:34 PM
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Originally posted by crowMAW
True...but isn't it amazing that so many intelligent conservatives in here support an incompetent president?!


hmm - what would one have to do for you to consider him to be competent?

considering what Bush inherented from the last ahole in the oral office, I think he has done a fantastic job with the country both economically and with its security.
im sure the handsomehunkcrat goron would have had the dow over 15k by now and 9/11 would never of happened huh? :rolleyes:
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Eagler on February 23, 2004, 05:25:35 PM
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Originally posted by crowMAW
True...but isn't it amazing that so many intelligent conservatives in here support an incompetent president?!


hmm - what would one have to do for you to consider him to be competent?

considering what Bush inherented from the last ahole in the oral office, I think he has done a fantastic job with the country both economically and with its security.
im sure the handsomehunkcrat goron would have had the dow over 15k by now and 9/11 would never of happened huh? :rolleyes:
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Thrawn on February 23, 2004, 06:00:07 PM
Cripes aren't you guys happy to no longer have an adminstration that had 30!! offiicals convicted of breaking the law.  Nothing but a bunch of criminals!  :mad:


Cripes I'm disgusted at the past US administration and I'm not even American.  :confused:
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Pongo on February 23, 2004, 06:03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Cripes aren't you guys happy to no longer have an adminstration that had 30!! offiicals convicted of breaking the law.  Nothing but a bunch of criminals!  :mad:


Cripes I'm disgusted at the past US administration and I'm not even American.  :confused:


I wonder which administration has the most felons in it. The most millionairs.?
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: mrblack on February 23, 2004, 06:05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo
I wonder which administration has the most felons in it. The most millionairs.?


LOL what do you care go play in the snow EH!
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Yeager on February 23, 2004, 06:09:27 PM
1. Committing a felony by outting a CIA operative.
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Dont think Bush did this, whoever did should go to jail.

2. Exagerating and fabricating US Intelligence to justify the war with Iraq.
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Seemed like the right thing to do.  Lets get back to this subject 10 years from now and see what developed.

3. Giving no-bid contracts to Haliburton (Chenney's former company).... which is now under scrutiny by the GAO for fraud.
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Yup.  Dont like this one at all.  Cheney needs to go.  Nice guy and lots of strong convictions that I agree with but even the appearance of impropriety with Haliburton is bad for the country.  Thing is, Bush wont sack Cheney unless Cheney dies from a heart attack (real possibility, surprized it hasnt already happened).

4. Violating the US Constitution by putting US citizens in jail indefinately with out due process, denying them the right to see an attonery and prove the allegations against them are false. Btw the US Supreme court is reviewing this matter and has already declared several actions by the Administration as unconstitutional.
====
Im with the Prez on this one.  Its hard for me to imagine an innocent american born citizen getting stuffed away down at the Git for no good reason, but if it happens Im sure it will get straightened out.

In the meantime I think the war against AQ is is being handled superbly well by the best people in uniform service in the world, with the leadership of a pretty decent guy as prez, compared to the last POS team that managed to bull dung their way into the O-Office.

Jmo of course :aok
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Thrawn on February 23, 2004, 06:16:30 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo
I wonder which administration has the most felons in it. The most millionairs.?



It was bait Pongo, I was talking about the Reagan adminstration.  :o

The Clinton adminstration had one (Secretary of Agriculture, something to do with football tickets), to Reagan's 30.

But if you tell big enough lie often enough.  ;)


Republican = TEH STRONG MOARAL LEDER!
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 23, 2004, 06:16:55 PM
As far as felons,

All I could find so far for GWB is (1) John Poindexter, but he had his conviction overturned in appellate court, and (2) Elliot Abrams who pleaded guilty of withholding information from congress but was pardoned by GHWB.

So I think so far that is zero… still looking
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Post by: midnight Target on February 23, 2004, 06:33:22 PM
RE: Bush and Reagan .... all I can say is that Bush helps Reagan look smarter.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Bodhi on February 23, 2004, 07:18:46 PM
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Originally posted by Duedel
Reagan had style and his own point of view. Bush is just a puppet like u, Bodhi and all those other neo-con pom pom wavers.
To compare this monkey with Reagan is an affront even againts Mr. Cowboy.


WOOHOO... I AM NOW A PUPPET....

never made it to that status before, especially not by a slighted euro trash wanna-be.

Oh, dip*****, u do not suppose Bush has his own style???  Hell, Reagan was not even in control the last three years in office owing to his advanced state of Alzheimers....  then again, you guys were would never know as you were to busy reaping the benefits of a reunifying country after 40+ years of US, British and French assistance in garnering it for you....

Deudel, sometimes you outdo your own levels of ignorance!

:aok
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Yeager on February 23, 2004, 07:31:48 PM
all I can say is that Bush helps Reagan look smarter.
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Your not saying much but thats par for the course.

Heres the deal: Reagan screwed up some, like every President has, but his accomplishments, in my eyes, far outweigh his failures.  Besides, he was the first President I voted for so I have a soft spot in my heart for "The Gipper"!!!

Go Dutch!:D
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Pongo on February 23, 2004, 08:00:12 PM
In order to impeach him a huge piece of the US population would have to admit they are stupid and the press would have to admit they are assesories.
Like him or hate him. He hasnt been sneaky about it..its been right out there to see since befor he was sworn in.
He is the kind of leader many americans want.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: crowMAW on February 23, 2004, 10:59:54 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
hmm - what would one have to do for you to consider him to be competent?  

For starters, he would have to be able to read the whole intelligence report, which includes reading all the caveats about how unreliable the info is, rather than simply reading the parts that agree with his PNAC cronies' agenda.

He would also need to be able to put together an administration that is competent enough not to "forget" that Tenet pulled the "yellow cake" comment out of an October speech, so that 3 months later the same inaccurate comment is not included in the State of the Union Address.

It would also be nice to have a Repugnantcan candidate who doesn't get bored when his top economic advisor is telling him about the state of all us regular boring Americans who work for a living.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Sox62 on February 23, 2004, 11:42:02 PM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
Compare all that to lying about an after hours blow job between consenting adults.



You do understand that this lie was to a grand jury,and is perjury?
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: lord dolf vader on February 24, 2004, 02:24:44 AM
he he what is funny is you dont understand why there are two seperate one for perjery and one for lie.  when you force somone to answer a question under oath on a matter not involved with the case in question. i.e. the infamous blowjob it aint perjery. its a lie. (if the guy honestly believed that he wasent having sexual intercource he wasen't even lieing). aint words and the law a *****.

turn off the republican am radio and read a ****in book.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Dowding on February 24, 2004, 05:30:46 AM
That Iran-Contra affair of Reagan's administration was alot of fun. Selling arms to Iran to pay for a secret war outlawed by a democratic body. Would you take a look at all the moral fibre there! Fine... Upstanding... Righteous!
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Torque on February 24, 2004, 06:02:23 AM
Iran-Contra was an obscure sideshow compared to Saddam and the thwarting of the Prevention of Genocide Act. You have to give a small particular group of Reps kudos as they've spun that into a PR blackhole.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Hortlund on February 24, 2004, 06:11:02 AM
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
when you force somone to answer a question under oath on a matter not involved with the case in question. i.e. the infamous blowjob it aint perjery. its a lie.


Its always so cute when non-legal types try to pretend they know stuff about the law.


Definition:   \Per"ju*ry\, n.; pl. {Perjuries}. [L. perjurium. See
{Perjure}, v.]
1. False swearing.

2. (Law) At common law, a willfully false statement in a fact
   material to the issue, made by a witness under oath in a
   competent judicial proceeding. By statute the penalties of
   perjury are imposed on the making of willfully false
   affirmations.

Note: If a man swear falsely in nonjudicial affidavits, it is
      made perjury by statute in some jurisdictions in the
      United States.

 
 
Legal Dictionary
 
  Definition:   The criminal offense of making a false statement under oath.



LIE: Dictionary Entry and Meaning
Pronunciation:    lee, lI

Definition:   [n]  a statement that deviates from or perverts the truth
[v]  tell an untruth; pretend with intent to deceive; "Don't lie to your parents"; "She lied when she told me she was only 29"
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: AKIron on February 24, 2004, 07:22:56 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
RE: Bush and Reagan .... all I can say is that Bush helps Reagan look smarter.


While all the dems make those two look as honest as ole cherry tree George.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 24, 2004, 08:25:33 AM
Today ought to be interesting...
The heads of the CIA, FBI, and the DIA are testifying before Congress about the greatest threat to America...

Tenet will be responding to allegations by Senator Levin that the CIA exagerated and even with held information.... the Senate is also investigating "policy makers" and the possibility that they exagerated and even fabricated intelligence.

And the Pentagon's Office of "Special Plans" may even be brought up - that's the new White House scape goat as to why Bush was "mislead".... remember in a Republican administration the leader is never at fault.

After all, Reagan wasn't to blame for Iran-Contra, even though supporting the Contras (aka Freedom Fighters) was his pet project.

And it's interesting that there was no "scandal" when Republican President George Herbert Walker Bush pardoned Caspar Weinberger with an indictment filed against him, thus avoiding any questions regarding the involvement of that same Republican President in the Iran-Contra Affair. There was no "scandal" when a partisan court appointed the highest elected official in this country.

There was no "scandal" when an intern was found dead of mysterious causes in Florida Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough's office. There was no "scandal" when Republican Mayor Philip Giordano of Waterbury, Connecticut was caught and charged as a sexual predator of young girls.

There was no "scandal" when the Republican President George Walker Bush nominated Theodore Olson (investigated for obstruction of justice and lying to Congress during the Superfund investigation) to the office of Solicitor General. There was no "scandal" when Florida Governor Jeb Bush's daughter, Noelle Bush, was charged with felony fraud in obtaining a controlled substance.

There was no "scandal" when Republican President George Walker Bush's daughters, Jenna and Barbara Bush, then 18, were convicted with using illegally obtained and false identification to obtain alcohol. There was no "scandal" when Mark A. Grethen, a Republican activist, nominated for "Republican of the Year" was convicted and is serving a more than 20 year sentence in prison for six counts of sex crimes involving children.

There was no "scandal" when Wendy Gramm, the wife of prominent Republican Senator Phil Gramm, approved illegal partnerships and waived the code of ethics for those partnership formations while on the Board of Directors of Enron. There is no "scandal" when Kenneth "Kenny Boy" Lay (Enron and Lay contributed $2.16 Million to Republicans in the 2000 election cycle) the largest contributor to the sitting Republican President, George Walker Bush, currently being investigated for leading one of the largest American companies, Enron, into bankruptcy following fraudulently filed earnings reports.

There was no "scandal" when Enron was allowed to price-gouge consumers and the sitting Republican President George Walker Bush refused to allow the Federal Energy Regulatory Committee (FERC) to impose price caps to control excess profiteering. There was no "scandal" when the current sitting Republican President George Walker Bush appointed Elliott Abrams (convicted of lying to Congress about the Iran-Contra affair) to the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations.

There was no "scandal" when John Ashcroft, the current Republican Attorney General, spuriously gave a "reprieve" and discontinued the lawfully entered agreement for damages to The Adams Mark Hotel, owned by Fred S. Kummer Jr, a personal friend and $25,700 senatorial campaign contributor, for charges of serious violations of racial discrimination.

There was no "scandal" when key figures, John Negroponte (complicit in the Honduran Death Squads), Richard Armitage (linked to illegal arms transfers and CIA drug-running operations), Otto Reich (propaganda operative), John Poindexter (convicted of conspiracy {obstruction of inquiries and proceedings, false statements, falsification, destruction and removal of documents}; two counts of obstruction of Congress and two counts of false statements) of the Iran-Contra Affair have re-appeared in official governmental positions by appointment by George Walker Bush, the sitting Republican President, the son of the former Republican President, George Herbert Walker Bush, for whom these men worked.

There is no "scandal" when the current Republican Vice President Richard Cheney refuses to release what should be public records of meetings held in the formulation of public policy (The Energy Policy) after being ordered to do so by three Federal Judges (U. S. District Judge Gladys Kessler, U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan and U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman). There is no "scandal" when the personal fortune of George Walker Bush, the sitting Republican President, is being bolstered by governmental war contracts to The Carlyle Group, partially owned by his father, former Republican President, George Herbert Walker Bush.

Don't worry about those "scandals," you know the "liberal" major media corporations (Rupert Murdoch of FOX - $30,033 to RNC... AOL/Time Warner/Walter Isaacson of CNN - $6,150 to RNC... GE/Jack Welch of NBC - $160,350 to RNC... Disney/Michael Eisner/ABC - $208,052 to RNC) are surely going to tell you every "scandal" that they want you to know.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Eagler on February 24, 2004, 08:40:47 AM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
Don't worry about those "scandals," you know the "liberal" major media corporations (Rupert Murdoch of FOX - $30,033 to RNC... AOL/Time Warner/Walter Isaacson of CNN - $6,150 to RNC... GE/Jack Welch of NBC - $160,350 to RNC... Disney/Michael Eisner/ABC - $208,052 to RNC) are surely going to tell you every "scandal" that they want you to know.



LOL - you for real?

they get more than that at most fund raiser dinners. slick gets almost that everytime he opens his lyin trap ....

can you say chump change to an org as large as the RNC?

ya, they can be bought for such "large" sums - LOL, you are funny
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 24, 2004, 08:57:55 AM
Halliburton faces criminal probe

Now here's a surprise....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/23/halliburton.probe/index.html

The Pentagon's investigation into allegations a Halliburton subsidiary may have overcharged for gasoline delivered to Iraq last year is now a criminal probe, the Pentagon said Monday.

"The Defense Criminal Investigative Service, the criminal investigative arm of the Inspector General's office, is investigating allegations of fraud on the part of Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), including the potential overpricing of fuel delivered to Baghdad by a KBR subcontractor," a Pentagon statement said.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 24, 2004, 09:02:25 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
LOL - you for real?

they get more than that at most fund raiser dinners. slick gets almost that everytime he opens his lyin trap ....

can you say chump change to an org as large as the RNC?

ya, they can be bought for such "large" sums - LOL, you are funny


You only see the simple stuff don't you.
Is it all about $$$? Or is there something else going on?
I know it's not a dot you can see... so it's hard to connect.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Thrawn on February 24, 2004, 09:05:47 AM
Wow Eagler, after everything posted in that thread, that's the only thing you can attack.  Interesting.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Hortlund on February 24, 2004, 09:29:38 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Wow Eagler, after everything posted in that thread, that's the only thing you can attack.  Interesting.

Not really. If you read it a bit closer that wall of text says nothing but "waaa waaa, I wish there was some scandal I could pin on the republicans"...
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Eagler on February 24, 2004, 09:48:10 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Wow Eagler, after everything posted in that thread, that's the only thing you can attack.  Interesting.


the rest of his post wasn't even worth mentioning as it was even more ridiculous than the "media bribe" of relative pennies...
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 24, 2004, 11:29:04 AM
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Originally posted by Hortlund
"waaa waaa, I wish there was some scandal I could pin on the republicans"...


LOL :p

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 24, 2004, 11:29:48 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
the rest of his post wasn't even worth mentioning as it was even more ridiculous than the "media bribe" of relative pennies...


You're still clueless... :p
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Martlet on February 24, 2004, 11:32:39 AM
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Originally posted by Nakhui
Halliburton faces criminal probe

Now here's a surprise....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/23/halliburton.probe/index.html

The Pentagon's investigation into allegations a Halliburton subsidiary may have overcharged for gasoline delivered to Iraq last year is now a criminal probe, the Pentagon said Monday.

"The Defense Criminal Investigative Service, the criminal investigative arm of the Inspector General's office, is investigating allegations of fraud on the part of Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), including the potential overpricing of fuel delivered to Baghdad by a KBR subcontractor," a Pentagon statement said.


Here's a bigger surprise (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2409974)

Quote
U.S. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., sent 28 letters in behalf of a San Diego defense contractor who pleaded guilty last week to illegally funneling campaign contributions to the Massachusetts senator and four other congressmen.
Title: Impeach Bush.... are they serious?
Post by: Nakhui on February 24, 2004, 11:44:03 AM
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Originally posted by Martlet
]Here's a bigger surprise[/URL]


Doest surprise me... Kerry is just another Republican snot running as a Democrat.

Even worse... he doesn't stay committed to any issue...

He's for the war - he's against the war...
He's for tax cuts-- he's against tax cuts...
He's for gays - he's against gays...
He's for the patriot act - he's against the patriot act...

Kerry's a political potato... he'll agree with whoever is paying him until the next "John Lobbyist" comes along and pays him more.